Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14758 Dec 5, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>
Reading that post from XX,(cannot find original) I have to believe that he was laughing, snotting, pissing and crying all over his keyboard. Not even XX could type that crap with a straight face. Fox, Truth and Limbaugh in the same post? LMAO
Believes it with his entire, shriveled, gangrenous heart.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14759 Dec 5, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Believes it with his entire, shriveled, gangrenous heart.
He's prepping for 2016 when Hillary wins.

woof
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14760 Dec 5, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Reading that post from XX,(cannot find original) I have to believe that he was laughing, snotting, pissing and crying all over his keyboard. Not even XX could type that crap with a straight face. Fox, Truth and Limbaugh in the same post? LMAO
Then explain how Americans are brainwashed into believing that the fiscal cliff is entirely the work of the Republican Congress. All polls show this. They certainly didn't come to this conclusion listening to Fox or Limbagh. So how did they come to that conclusion? Are Americans that dumb?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14761 Dec 5, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Then explain how Americans are brainwashed into believing that the fiscal cliff is entirely the work of the Republican Congress. All polls show this. They certainly didn't come to this conclusion listening to Fox or Limbagh. So how did they come to that conclusion? Are Americans that dumb?
Let's see, perhaps they've been watching the GOP congressional delegation for the past four years doing their best to do absolutely nothing, with the sole exception of working very diligently towards unseating the President, just like they said they would four years ago.

Maybe that has something to do with it.

You truly are one of a kind.

woof
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14762 Dec 5, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You are wrong. The American People blame the GOP. They voted for Obama and his agenda and they are saying through polling that they blame the GOP for this stalemate.
President Obama has not tied the extension of the Bush tax cuts to the 98% on anything. No conditions. Pass it and he'll sign it. It's your beloved GOP that is trying to leverage that.
What happens if this stalemate goes on? Everyone's tax rate goes up. Is that what the GOP wants? As the election showed, the GOP isn't real smart at looking at the end game.
Okay. Then why doesn't DumBama go along with the GOP plan which is to not increase taxes on anybody, or allow the 98% to have their taxes raised? If that takes place, then it's less the GOP's idea more than it is DumBama's.

He is holding the 98% of us as hostage in order to please his wealth hating supporters; but it's not reported that way. It's reported by the MSM that Republicans are holding out to protect the top 2%. If taxes increase for all of us, it's the Republican's fault and not DumBama's. But then again, when has DumBama ever took responsibility for the dozens of negatives that took place over the last 4 years? Never.

It's all the Republicans fault or GW's. DumBama is never responsible.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14763 Dec 5, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Then explain how Americans are brainwashed into believing that the fiscal cliff is entirely the work of the Republican Congress. All polls show this. They certainly didn't come to this conclusion listening to Fox or Limbagh. So how did they come to that conclusion? Are Americans that dumb?
No, they are that smart. When given the choice of believing Rush and Fox or their own lying eyes, they go with what they see.

Remember when Fox told you, right up until about 11PM on election night that Romney was going to win in a landslide? Remember that? Didn't you learn anything at all from that embarrassment?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14764 Dec 5, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Okay. Then why doesn't DumBama go along with the GOP plan which is to not increase taxes on anybody, or allow the 98% to have their taxes raised? If that takes place, then it's less the GOP's idea more than it is DumBama's.
He is holding the 98% of us as hostage in order to please his wealth hating supporters; but it's not reported that way. It's reported by the MSM that Republicans are holding out to protect the top 2%. If taxes increase for all of us, it's the Republican's fault and not DumBama's. But then again, when has DumBama ever took responsibility for the dozens of negatives that took place over the last 4 years? Never.
It's all the Republicans fault or GW's. DumBama is never responsible.
Let me try to break this down for you.

President Obama thinks that tax rates for 98% of Americans should stay as they are now.

The GOP thinks that the tax rates for those very same 98% of Americans should stay as they are now.

They AGREE on that.

President Obama will sign that legislation today without any condition.

The GOP won't pass it.

Reasonable people don't have any problem looking at that scenario and knowing who is at fault.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#14765 Dec 5, 2012
Yes they blame Republicans.

Failed Republican Economics are at the Root of America's ...

www.politicususa.com/failed-republican-econom... ...

13 hours ago ... The GOP bears most of the blame for the economic woes over the past 12 ... ground to avoid the fiscal cliff that 64% of Americans think will have a ... tax cuts, two unfunded wars, obstructing job creation, the credit downgrade,...



Washington Post-Pew poll: Republicans are losing the fiscal ...

www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/04/1167063/-Wa... ...

1 day ago ... 31, congressional Republicans should bear the brunt of the blame,... While 53 percent of those surveyed say the GOP would (and should) lose the fiscal cliffblame game,..... So while as a whole America agrees with Obama and the Dems on .... I think I figured this whole Republican obstruction thing out.


Republican Obstruction: Poll Shows Voters Will Blame - PolicyMic

www.policymic.com/articles/19047/republican-o... ...

The message from the American people on election night was clear: stop the ... Republican Obstruction: Poll Shows Voters Will Blame Congressional GOP if Debt ... they would blame congressional Republicans if talks on the “fiscal cliff” failed.


Boehner Counters Obama Deficit-Cutting Deal With 'Credible ...

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/boehner... ...

2 days ago ... If they hold out and we go over the cliff they will be blamed for the economic failure.....

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#14766 Dec 5, 2012
Boehner Purges Fiscal Conservatives From House Leadership ... www.theblaze.com/stories/boehner-purges-fisca... ...

1 day ago ... The Tea Party represents the old, cranky, bigoted uncle at evey ... Enough: this has to stop, and if that means John Boehner's time as Speaker is over, so be it....... what an oxymoron a boehner with no balls….didn't think it was ...

Republicans Make Counteroffer in Fiscal Talks With Obama ... www.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/us/politics/boehne... ...

2 days ago ... But the plan would extend the expiring Bush-era tax cuts for high-income ... including Representative Paul D. Ryan, the former vice-presidential nominee ... with a plan they considered more realistic, not the one Mr. Boehner again ... In an effort to give their proposal added credibility, Republicans said their ...

Since: Aug 12

United States

#14767 Dec 5, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Gettin too cold to sail the boat up the St Lawrence?
woof
It was 74 degrees here. Perfect for taking the bass boat out and putting it up on plane for about 62 mph.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#14768 Dec 5, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
Ahhhh, the GOP.
Just lost an election in which the main issue was whether to raise taxes on people making more than $250K. Polls show a majority of Americans think we should do so. Polls also show that if a fiscal cliff deal isn't reached, most people will blame the GOP.
So what does the GOP do? Refuses to extend tax cuts on 98% of Americans in order to resist doing what Americans have clearly stated they want them to do. Brilliant.
Polls also show that a VAST majority of people did NOT want Obama care either but the representatives of those same people rammed it thru anyway.
I won't even get into the clearly class warfare angle or how little effective $'s will come from the 'top 2%' that already pay the bulk of ALL taxes but the Dems/Progressives want to deprive them of even more.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#14769 Dec 5, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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But you promised. You changed your corporation to an overseas corporation so you would never ever have to pay a penny of tax again and you were moving to the Cayman Islands. What happened?
Which is exactly what the people with real money will do...take it off shore. So what will be left to tax of the top 2%?
Answer...very little. Taxing them more will produce even less than the guesstimates suppose.
free

Sidney, OH

#14770 Dec 5, 2012
The moron Liberal inmates are running the asylum. For Christ sakes !

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#14771 Dec 5, 2012
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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It was 74 degrees here. Perfect for taking the bass boat out and putting it up on plane for about 62 mph.
It was near 70 here Mon and Tues. Little cooler today. Around 44, seems like. Weird temps.
free

Sidney, OH

#14772 Dec 5, 2012
ED Shultz is a big dumb mass !

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#14773 Dec 5, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Polls also show that a VAST majority of people did NOT want Obama care either but the representatives of those same people rammed it thru anyway.
I won't even get into the clearly class warfare angle or how little effective $'s will come from the 'top 2%' that already pay the bulk of ALL taxes but the Dems/Progressives want to deprive them of even more.
Sorry, Pops, but that is not the whole story. Just depends how you ask the questions.

Poll: Most Americans want to keep Obamacare in some form www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012... -...

Poll: Most Americans want to keep Obamacare in some form. Posted by Suzy Khimm on July 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm. Smaller Text Larger Text Text Size; Print ...

Poll: Fewer Support Obamacare Repeal - ABC News abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/poll-fe...

Nov 13, 2012 ... A record low number of American voters want to see the Affordable Care Act – Obamacare – repealed, according to a new post-election poll ...

[ More results from abcnews.go.com ]
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#14774 Dec 6, 2012
Amanda Slap wrote:
Yes they blame Republicans.
Failed Republican Economics are at the Root of America's ...
www
Washters Will Blame Congressional GOP if Debt ... they would blame congressional Republicans if talks on the “fiscal cliff” failed.
Boehner Counters Obama Deficit-Cutting Deal With /boehner-counters-obama-defici t-cutting-dea...
2 days ago ... If they hold out and we go over the cliff they will be blamed for the economic failure.....
I didn't know obama was a republican. Really though the last link you posted stated that republicans aren't doing enough? If its their fault, and they dont want to offer much, WHY is that a problem? Just write it without them, speed up the recovery, and put em away. Again though, it republicans fault for a war dems voted for, increased spending, bailouts., and cutting taxes right? Well obama does the same thing, so why does it seem to work differently under him. It dosent. The fed reserve sets the monitary policy and obama appointed many big banksters just as bush did in his cabinet.
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#14776 Dec 6, 2012
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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It was 74 degrees here. Perfect for taking the bass boat out and putting it up on plane for about 62 mph.
Was I talking to you? Put your hand down and shut up.

woof

Since: Aug 12

Acworth, GA

#14777 Dec 6, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Was I talking to you? Put your hand down and shut up.
woof
Go perform a physical impossibility to yourself!

My bass boat gets just a hair over 2 MPG by the way ;-)
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14778 Dec 6, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Polls also show that a VAST majority of people did NOT want Obama care either but the representatives of those same people rammed it thru anyway.
I won't even get into the clearly class warfare angle or how little effective $'s will come from the 'top 2%' that already pay the bulk of ALL taxes but the Dems/Progressives want to deprive them of even more.
Not that you will understand, but these are two entirely different questions regarding polling.

The question that was presented was "Why, oh why, do you liberals claim that the GOP is getting blamed for this stalemate." The answer was, look at the polls. Just like the polls gave an accurate picture of the presidential election, the polls are giving an accurate picture of the opinion of the people on this question. I know. Data. Icky.

On the Healthcare Act, it really matters what poll and what the questions are. A poll that asks, "Do you approve" is not going to give a clear result because many on the left don't approve of the law either; it's too conservative. That doesn't equate to those folks wanting it repealed. Try looking at poll numbers on the separate components of the ACA. Most of them have approval of around 60%.

Anyway, that's old news. It's law. Keep the conversation current and relevant.

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