Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

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How do you feel about Conservative Supreme Court judges sitting down and having dinner with oil billionaires? How about oil billionaires buying elections acrossed the nation? Wonder if alternatives to oil could have been research more in depth if it wasn't for oil billionaires money shutting it down. How about sending troops off to die under the lie that they are looking for WMDs, when they are really there to secure oil, while gas prices were at $4 a gallon? How about putting outspoken anti-environmentalists in charge of our nation's environment like Reagan and both Bush presidents did, who make statements that we don't needf to protect the environment because Jesus will be back soon? How about the fact that a $10,000 saftey device could have stopped the oil spill in the gulf, from an oil rig that Haliburton built and Bush deregulated? Do you have any problem with the fact that the "Tea Party" which was supposed to be a grassroots effort made by common people against taxes, is really just a front sponsored by guess who, oil billionaies who have people crying about taxes when they are the lowest they have been in 50 years? Again, want to see a video of oil billionaire sponsored Sarah Palin telling her church that the pipeline is "God's will"?
Oil people don't need to do any of that. Why? Because they have no problem selling oil. It's worldwide. If the US could somehow find an alternative to oil, no problem for the oil industry. The rest of the world will be happy to take our share. It's a product that sells itself.

There is no reasonable alternative to oil. It will be here with us the rest of our lives. Not because oil companies are playing games, it's because there is no replacement for oil. Windmills are expensive and break down or need maintenance. The animal rights people complain about them too because they kill birds. Nuclear is fine except finding places to dump the waste. Solar panels? Barely enough to run your television on, and they don't work well up north where the roofs are covered in show half the year. Electric cars? You need electricity to run those cars. Many of us suffered a massive power outage with Sandra. I can't see calling off of work because I couldn't get my car charged due to a power outage. Plus you need something to create electricity like coal. In many places, hot weather causes high power consumption for AC units and it blacks cities out.

There is no magical solution. When there is one, liberals and conservatives alike will be happy to use it. Hell, here in Cleveland, a guy invented an engine that runs on water. Only problem with that is water vapor is considered one of the most damaging global gasses. There is no win in this game.

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Nov 19, 2012
 
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I'm afraid you are mistaken, Mr. Mayor.
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"SALON" & "THE NATION," huh? It's gonna take more than those extreme "left wing" publications, & your lack-of-class name calling to convince me. Give me someting worth considering, or don't bother.
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Michael Moore said on Real Time w/Bill Maher that he signed the Texas TeaBaggin' Secession, Petition 4 Times, with assumed names, because he wants them OUT. ;-)
Michael Moore & Bill Maher? There's two objective non-biased people! ROFLMAO

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<quoted text>Michael Moore & Bill Maher? There's two objective non-biased people! ROFLMAO
At least they are not hypocrotes and we vknow where they stand, unlike running through hell and half of Georgia to try to determine what a TeaBagging, WingNuts REAL view is on a subject, only to find you cannot trust their view, because most likely they are lying. Ask Mitt.

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DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>"SALON" & "THE NATION," huh? It's gonna take more than those extreme "left wing" publications, & your lack-of-class name calling to convince me. Give me someting worth considering, or don't bother.
Did I call you a name??? I certainly don't believe I did. Perhaps your skewed view and the foggy lines between YOUR truth and reality led you to believe that I did. Do you consider "Mr. Mayor" to be name calling? Maybe you prefer, "Mr. Ex Mayor."
I cannot give you anything that you would consider worthy, Mr. Mayor, because you dwell in that bubble of disinformation that you allow to protect you from the truth.
You wouldn't believe the truth if jesus christ himself apperared before you and screamed it at you. That is just how you are programmed, due to your unwavering attention and worship to Republican State Run Television and Rush Limbaugh.
You are so insulated in your bubble of hatred and WingNut Aura, sir that you cannot handle the truth.

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Oil people don't need to do any of that. Why? Because they have no problem selling oil. It's worldwide. If the US could somehow find an alternative to oil, no problem for the oil industry. The rest of the world will be happy to take our share. It's a product that sells itself.
There is no reasonable alternative to oil. It will be here with us the rest of our lives. Not because oil companies are playing games, it's because there is no replacement for oil. Windmills are expensive and break down or need maintenance. The animal rights people complain about them too because they kill birds. Nuclear is fine except finding places to dump the waste. Solar panels? Barely enough to run your television on, and they don't work well up north where the roofs are covered in show half the year. Electric cars? You need electricity to run those cars. Many of us suffered a massive power outage with Sandra. I can't see calling off of work because I couldn't get my car charged due to a power outage. Plus you need something to create electricity like coal. In many places, hot weather causes high power consumption for AC units and it blacks cities out.
There is no magical solution. When there is one, liberals and conservatives alike will be happy to use it. Hell, here in Cleveland, a guy invented an engine that runs on water. Only problem with that is water vapor is considered one of the most damaging global gasses. There is no win in this game.
Mayhaps the Oil Industry Big Wigs are reluctant to give up those subsidies they get from our tax dollars to the tune of 4Billion or so every year.
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Mayhaps the Oil Industry Big Wigs are reluctant to give up those subsidies they get from our tax dollars to the tune of 4Billion or so every year.
I just posted a fact-0check on those so-called subsidies a few days ago. Need I post it again?
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Reality Speaks wrote:
dow down 167 points
down markets show confidence in an economy
the past 7 days performance tells a story.
the slide continues
When you finally getting around to explaining to us your crazy statments about Texas dividing into 5 states, then tell us more about the stock market slide. I imagine the 200 point gain today fits right into your projection.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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I just posted a fact-0check on those so-called subsidies a few days ago. Need I post it again?
You should read that Fact Check a little closer if you do. If I recall correctly, that was about a very specific tax cut and not the subsidies that Big Oil enjoys.
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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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When you finally getting around to explaining to us your crazy statments about Texas dividing into 5 states, then tell us more about the stock market slide. I imagine the 200 point gain today fits right into your projection.
No concrete positive signs. Just speculation:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)-- U.S. stocks rallied Monday, logging their best gains in months, as investors started the holiday-shortened week optimistic that fiscal cliff negotiations in Washington are progressing.

The Dow Jones industrial average jumped more than 200 points, or 1.7%, with financial stocks Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) among the top leaders. The S&P 500 added 2% and the Nasdaq surged 2.2

The broad rally started last Friday, after President Obama and congressional leaders wrapped up their first fiscal cliff meeting since the election. Investors were encouraged after both Democrats and Republicans emerged from the meeting with a confident tone and suggested that agreement could be reached before Jan. 1, when federal spending cuts and tax increases are scheduled to take effect.

"The question of whether or not the fiscal cliff will be avoided is impossible to answer with any degree of certainty, but the political reality does indicate that some sort of compromise may be possible," said Bob Doll, senior advisor at BlackRock. "The two sides still appear to be quite far apart on some important issues, particularly regarding a potential tax increase for higher-income Americans. But the parties are at least attempting to avoid brinksmanship."

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/19/investing/sto...
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You should read that Fact Check a little closer if you do. If I recall correctly, that was about a very specific tax cut and not the subsidies that Big Oil enjoys.
If you read even closer it boldly states that while oil companies did get a break, they lost more breaks than they received. It also highlighted that these so-called subsidies were for the purpose of specific items such as alternative energy research.
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At least they are not hypocrotes and we vknow where they stand, unlike running through hell and half of Georgia to try to determine what a TeaBagging, WingNuts REAL view is on a subject, only to find you cannot trust their view, because most likely they are lying. Ask Mitt.
I will readily agree that Moore & Maher are NOT hypocrites. I also declare that Tea baggers are NOT hypocrites since we KNOW where they stand like Moore & Maher.
As far as your last comment about liars & asking Mitt, you are reaching, twisting, or delusional.
Do you think that almost any & every politicians does not lie? Give me & others a break & WAKE UP!
MORE of American voters need to Wake Up!! WE voters need to care more about what is best for the country & NOT necessarily what is best for each of us as individuals. We DO live in this country together.

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I just posted a fact-0check on those so-called subsidies a few days ago. Need I post it again?
They get subsidies and Republicans want them to continue. And some Democrats, too.

Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S.- The Price of Oil priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/ - Similarto Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S.- The Price of Oil

The Repeal Big Oil Tax Subsidies Act, sponsored by Senator Menendez (D-NJ) was debated and defeated by the Senate for two years running, and would have ...
Senate Republicans reject Obama call to end 'big oil' tax ... www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/politics/oil-subsidies...

Mar 29, 2012 ... Senate Republicans block a Democratic measure championed by President Barack Obama to end tax breaks for the major oil companies.

[PDF] S.2204 – THE REPEAL BIG OIL TAX SUBSIDIES ACT dpc.senate.gov/docs/lb-112-2-63.pdf

Mar 23, 2012 ... Under current law, U.S. taxpayers subsidize big oil's production of foreign ... subsidies for Big Oil to support growing clean energy industries like ...
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Oct 24, 2012 ... Through its enormous spending, these five and other Big Oil companies have fought to maintain $4 billion of their annual subsidies, while ...

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If you read even closer it boldly states that while oil companies did get a break, they lost more breaks than they received. It also highlighted that these so-called subsidies were for the purpose of specific items such as alternative energy research.
Big Oil's Banner Year | Center for American Progress www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/news/20... ...

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Apr 24, 2011 ... While many Americans are seething at gas prices, which have hit $5 per gallon in parts of the country, big oil companies are expected to report ...
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Apr 29, 2011 ... The oil industry is under fire from lawmakers and the public for making billions as gas prices rise near record highs, squeezing household ...

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<quoted text>I will readily agree that Moore & Maher are NOT hypocrites. I also declare that Tea baggers are NOT hypocrites since we KNOW where they stand like Moore & Maher.
As far as your last comment about liars & asking Mitt, you are reaching, twisting, or delusional.
Do you think that almost any & every politicians does not lie? Give me & others a break & WAKE UP!
MORE of American voters need to Wake Up!! WE voters need to care more about what is best for the country & NOT necessarily what is best for each of us as individuals. We DO live in this country together.
I agree Pops. We all share this Nation and this Planet. I really do try to vote for what I think is best for the country and for the progression of this country as a Nation.
I don't have children in school, but I always vote for School Levys and School Taxes/Revenue. I fund other projects I do not directly benefit from too.
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Mayhaps the Oil Industry Big Wigs are reluctant to give up those subsidies they get from our tax dollars to the tune of 4Billion or so every year.
I hear what you are saying about the subsidies.
A problem is that take away the subsidies & the retail cost will go up. Cities & states give 'tax breaks' ALL of the time to grow or keep jobs. It's really no different, quite the conflict. Sort of a 'same but different' scenario.
The working stiff still pays the income taxes while the company gets the tax breaks.
Both Dems & Repubs vote to do it. I don't blame them either. JOBS help the overall economy. Unemployment does NOT.
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No concrete positive signs. Just speculation:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)-- U.S. stocks rallied Monday, logging their best gains in months, as investors started the holiday-shortened week optimistic that fiscal cliff negotiations in Washington are progressing.
The Dow Jones industrial average jumped more than 200 points, or 1.7%, with financial stocks Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) among the top leaders. The S&P 500 added 2% and the Nasdaq surged 2.2
The broad rally started last Friday, after President Obama and congressional leaders wrapped up their first fiscal cliff meeting since the election. Investors were encouraged after both Democrats and Republicans emerged from the meeting with a confident tone and suggested that agreement could be reached before Jan. 1, when federal spending cuts and tax increases are scheduled to take effect.
"The question of whether or not the fiscal cliff will be avoided is impossible to answer with any degree of certainty, but the political reality does indicate that some sort of compromise may be possible," said Bob Doll, senior advisor at BlackRock. "The two sides still appear to be quite far apart on some important issues, particularly regarding a potential tax increase for higher-income Americans. But the parties are at least attempting to avoid brinksmanship."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/19/investing/sto...
Gee, thanks.
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If you read even closer it boldly states that while oil companies did get a break, they lost more breaks than they received. It also highlighted that these so-called subsidies were for the purpose of specific items such as alternative energy research.
I haven't read it for awhile, but I'm pretty sure that was about a rather narrow area and not the global arena of subsidies. But if it makes you feel better to think that Oil companies aren't getting a fair shake, go right ahead. I'm sure they are equally worried about you.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I will readily agree that Moore & Maher are NOT hypocrites. I also declare that Tea baggers are NOT hypocrites since we KNOW where they stand like Moore & Maher.
As far as your last comment about liars & asking Mitt, you are reaching, twisting, or delusional.
Do you think that almost any & every politicians does not lie? Give me & others a break & WAKE UP!
MORE of American voters need to Wake Up!! WE voters need to care more about what is best for the country & NOT necessarily what is best for each of us as individuals. We DO live in this country together.
Right. The Teabaggers demanding small government and holding signs that say "Keep your hands off my Medicare" aren't hypocrites.
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<quoted text>I hear what you are saying about the subsidies.
A problem is that take away the subsidies & the retail cost will go up. Cities & states give 'tax breaks' ALL of the time to grow or keep jobs. It's really no different, quite the conflict. Sort of a 'same but different' scenario.
The working stiff still pays the income taxes while the company gets the tax breaks.
Both Dems & Repubs vote to do it. I don't blame them either. JOBS help the overall economy. Unemployment does NOT.
Doesn't it bother you that you are willing to be Oil's bitch? "If we don't do what they say, they will raise prices. Oh, please don't raise prices. We just little ol' people. We'll be good. Please forgive us."

When are we going to grow some balls and stand up to these a$$holes?

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