Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#13978 Nov 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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When did I say they were not getting a fair shake? Sure they are, but so is every other company domestically or internationally.
Subsidies are write-offs; no different than a mortgage deduction on your home, or perhaps a medical deduction if you're paying a lot of medical expenses. You can't single out one or two companies based on how much they earn or how much you dislike them and say they should be treated differently than my widget company.
Tax time is around the corner which means hours of calculation work on my part. I am calculating my subsidy. I have to add up all those expenses it takes to run my business so I can deduct them from my gross profit. Mortgage interest deductions, water and sewer deductions, property tax deductions, second mortgage interest rate deductions, house insurance deductions, maintenance and repair deductions, city inspection and occupancy fee deductions. I am being subsidized by our federal government.
And if you think your "subsidy" is in any way proportional to what Oil gets, you are even more of a fool than I had you pegged for.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13979 Nov 19, 2012
standing firm wrote:
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Yes oil companies do control the price, idiot. Who controls the supply? You are royally retarded.
For the short bus people:

Oil supply is generally the same. It's the usage that changes. Usage varies based on production. Supply is sometimes interrupted by oil rig fires, refinery shut-downs, Obama, or oil line leaks. But in general, oil is pretty steady.

There is only one major player when it comes to reduced oil production: OPEC. OPEC does intentionally alter prices by reducing output. Oil companies have no control of that.

In the US, we have an administration that prints Monopoly money. When that happens, it weakens the value of the US dollar. When the US dollar is weakened, it takes more US dollars to buy a commodity. When the US dollar is strong, it may only take $75.00 to buy a barrel of oil. When it is weakened, it takes $87.00 to buy that same barrel of oil.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13980 Nov 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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While they bitch about people getting unemployment.
I pay taxes. If someday I need food stamps like your buddy Pops did, didn't I pay for that? You and the teabaggers only care about "big government" when government helps other people. When it helps you, you are entitled to it. Hypocrites.
No, that's not the conservative stance. Food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, even HUD are all fine programs provided that they are not abused or used as a lifestyle. That's what Republicans complain about. You will find few conservatives who say we should end all social programs for every single individual.

The problem is that Democrats want to see more government dependents because it means more likely Democrat voters. And when Republicans object, the left lies as usual and says because we want to end abuse, we want all social programs eliminated.

Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#13981 Nov 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
For the short bus people:
Oil supply is generally the same. It's the usage that changes. Usage varies based on production. Supply is sometimes interrupted by oil rig fires, refinery shut-downs, Obama, or oil line leaks. But in general, oil is pretty steady.
There is only one major player when it comes to reduced oil production: OPEC. OPEC does intentionally alter prices by reducing output. Oil companies have no control of that.
In the US, we have an administration that prints Monopoly money. When that happens, it weakens the value of the US dollar. When the US dollar is weakened, it takes more US dollars to buy a commodity. When the US dollar is strong, it may only take $75.00 to buy a barrel of oil. When it is weakened, it takes $87.00 to buy that same barrel of oil.
The world according to Rush.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13982 Nov 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You're damn right you are and I am tired of carrying your ass.
Well I'm tired of paying for Big Bird and Planned Parenthood. Do we have a deal?

Like all so-called subsidies, if I don't get those write-offs, I have to increase my rental rates for my tenants to make up that loss. Most renters are not well-to-do people. Why would you want to make it harder for them to survive? That's typical of you heartless liberals.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13983 Nov 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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The world according to Rush.
Nope, it's the world of being a commodity investor for several years. When you make investments with your own money, you do a lot of leg work to protect your investment and to insure you understand what you're investing in. Even Rush has been inaccurate on this subject many times.
Pops

United States

#13984 Nov 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Yes. You are simple.
Fantastic reply Batman!! or is that; Fantastic reply batty one.

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Pops

United States

#13985 Nov 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Yes. You are simple.
Simple doesn't necessarily mean stupid. In this case it means NOT complicated. You are not complicated.
grow some gray matter dude.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#13986 Nov 19, 2012
Looks like the unions are fighting a good fight at Hostess. Seems some bloated CEO's are gonna have to earn those bonuses for once.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#13987 Nov 19, 2012
Man, it is obvious by the numbers that the economy is heading in the right direction. You guys need to ignore what you have been taught by propaganda for so many years and help make this country great again. There is a way to make everyone win. It would take both sides to see that. Just in our infrastructure alone there is huge job potential and huge money to be made. The upcoming health care shortage brought on by baby boomers is an incredible opportunity for America to rise above it's global competitors. People need to come out of their end times Bible bunkers and lend a hand to these things. Who cares if gays want to marry? We've got whole cites to rebuild and if we don't take disaster and turn it into opportunity, we will end up being an army for hire economy. As far as caring about the environmental damage caused by the energy industry, this is done out of a rock solid belief that younger generations deserve better than a bunch of old money telling them that they don't get a turn at bat because they are so important that only the end of the world and the return of Jesus can sum up their greatness.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#13988 Nov 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
For the short bus people:
Oil supply is generally the same. It's the usage that changes. Usage varies based on production. Supply is sometimes interrupted by oil rig fires, refinery shut-downs, Obama, or oil line leaks. But in general, oil is pretty steady.
There is only one major player when it comes to reduced oil production: OPEC. OPEC does intentionally alter prices by reducing output. Oil companies have no control of that.
In the US, we have an administration that prints Monopoly money. When that happens, it weakens the value of the US dollar. When the US dollar is weakened, it takes more US dollars to buy a commodity. When the US dollar is strong, it may only take $75.00 to buy a barrel of oil. When it is weakened, it takes $87.00 to buy that same barrel of oil.
There are only two questions that apply to mine, Che's and your posts re oil.
Do Oil Companies receive subsidies from our tax dollars to the tune of 4 Billion dollars? Yes.

Are Oil companies raking in Record PROFITS, Not GROSS, but PROFITS?
YES.
Also don't believe the crap about them spending exhorbitant amounts of money on Green Rnergy exploration.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#13989 Nov 19, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
Man, it is obvious by the numbers that the economy is heading in the right direction. You guys need to ignore what you have been taught by propaganda for so many years and help make this country great again. There is a way to make everyone win. It would take both sides to see that. Just in our infrastructure alone there is huge job potential and huge money to be made. The upcoming health care shortage brought on by baby boomers is an incredible opportunity for America to rise above it's global competitors. People need to come out of their end times Bible bunkers and lend a hand to these things. Who cares if gays want to marry? We've got whole cites to rebuild and if we don't take disaster and turn it into opportunity, we will end up being an army for hire economy. As far as caring about the environmental damage caused by the energy industry, this is done out of a rock solid belief that younger generations deserve better than a bunch of old money telling them that they don't get a turn at bat because they are so important that only the end of the world and the return of Jesus can sum up their greatness.
You tell em. Nut up or shut up. If they want to be a part of this Nation through good times and bad then pitch in, stop whining like little bitches and get to work. If not, you don't have what it takes anyway, so go secede with all the other quitters and get on the forkin' boat and get the fork out. Goodbye.
socialite liaison

Mansfield, OH

#13990 Nov 19, 2012
baerries a coward..........Baby!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#13991 Nov 19, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>
You tell em. Nut up or shut up. If they want to be a part of this Nation through good times and bad then pitch in, stop whining like little bitches and get to work. If not, you don't have what it takes anyway, so go secede with all the other quitters and get on the forkin' boat and get the fork out. Goodbye.
.
I can just imagine PIGH as the lead hamster in the boat of hamsters in that tv commercial....
"Row!!!! Row!!!! Row!!!! Row!!!!"

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#13992 Nov 19, 2012
socialite liaison wrote:
baerries a coward..........Baby!
Who is baerrie?
r u kidding me

United States

#13993 Nov 20, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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I was pointing out that your source is about as accurate as asking Hitler "facts" about the Jews. Every bit of information you get from the Heritage Institute comes with a healthy heaping of propaganda and a history of altering research information to match their own agenda. The fact that you posted the exact organization that is responsible for all the misinformation on climate change was just an added bonus. If you have been playing along, you would see that it is a common argument on this thread. The fact that you had no idea about any of this, when using a website funded by oil billionaires, tells me perhaps you should look for more unbiased sources when posting links. I'm sure Glenn Beck also has alot to say about this year's elections but only an idiot would base their reality off of it.
look I was simply browsing for an article that referenced how many reegistered voters didn't vote. If I referenced cnn would that be any different? " Former CNN correspondent turned whistleblower, Amber Lyon, analyzes CNN’s response to a series of stories that ran in the Guardian that expose how the network is earning money from oppressive regimes in exchange for creating and airing content that casts a favorable light on the regimes. The stories also revealed CNN International refused to air CNN’s own award-winning documentary,‘iRevolution’, a documentary exposing the Bahrain regime’s brutal crackdown on pro-democracy protesters." If you want to discredit what I referenced from the post, ok. Do it. But what you're trying to do is silly. Its a fact many rregistersd voters didn't vote. Bias source or not. All your bickering about secondhand smoke is way off point. I'm just going to reference whatever I want and if you can prove the point wrong ( like post a reference that says otherwise) then ok.
Beside the point though. Don't you think the cnn offense is wprse than an op ed about secondhand smoke? Lol!
Btw if our government didn't know where bin laden was, how did cnn know and get an interview with him.
Bbtw its impossible to reference a source who won't have some kind of bias you're an idiot. http://www.whoownsthenews.com/
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13994 Nov 20, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
Man, it is obvious by the numbers that the economy is heading in the right direction. You guys need to ignore what you have been taught by propaganda for so many years and help make this country great again. There is a way to make everyone win. It would take both sides to see that. Just in our infrastructure alone there is huge job potential and huge money to be made. The upcoming health care shortage brought on by baby boomers is an incredible opportunity for America to rise above it's global competitors. People need to come out of their end times Bible bunkers and lend a hand to these things. Who cares if gays want to marry? We've got whole cites to rebuild and if we don't take disaster and turn it into opportunity, we will end up being an army for hire economy. As far as caring about the environmental damage caused by the energy industry, this is done out of a rock solid belief that younger generations deserve better than a bunch of old money telling them that they don't get a turn at bat because they are so important that only the end of the world and the return of Jesus can sum up their greatness.
Infrastructure doesn't make money, it costs money. We are broke and have been for some time now. Our deficits have been over a trillion dollars a year for the last four years and there is no end in sight. Taxing the people making over 250K is no answer because that only gets us about 80 billion a year which is a little over 5% of our deficit not to mention it doesn't do anything for our debt.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#13995 Nov 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that's not the conservative stance. Food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, even HUD are all fine programs provided that they are not abused or used as a lifestyle. That's what Republicans complain about. You will find few conservatives who say we should end all social programs for every single individual.
The problem is that Democrats want to see more government dependents because it means more likely Democrat voters. And when Republicans object, the left lies as usual and says because we want to end abuse, we want all social programs eliminated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bavou_SEj1EXX
So let me get this straight. The Left is wrong about what is in Conservatives minds because, of course, who can't read someone else's mind. But you know what is in the minds of the Democrats, because.... Ok, Rush.
standing firm

Greensburg, PA

#13996 Nov 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, it's the world of being a commodity investor for several years. When you make investments with your own money, you do a lot of leg work to protect your investment and to insure you understand what you're investing in. Even Rush has been inaccurate on this subject many times.
Nobodies saying demand doesn't have an impact ,it does. Why are prices volatile? Because of interruptions in the SUPPLY chain.
You are so stupid.
Investor? Give me a break. Get lost.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#13997 Nov 20, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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There are only two questions that apply to mine, Che's and your posts re oil.
Do Oil Companies receive subsidies from our tax dollars to the tune of 4 Billion dollars? Yes.
Are Oil companies raking in Record PROFITS, Not GROSS, but PROFITS?
YES.
Also don't believe the crap about them spending exhorbitant amounts of money on Green Rnergy exploration.
Once again, Factcheck.org :

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/oil-and-gas-...

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