Ohio Passenger Rail Clears First Poli...

Ohio Passenger Rail Clears First Political Hurdle

There are 9 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from Apr 19, 2010, titled Ohio Passenger Rail Clears First Political Hurdle. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

A plan to restore passenger rail service between Cleveland and Cincinnati has passed its first political hurdle over the objections of Republicans.

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Since: Aug 09

United States

#1 Apr 19, 2010
We have been hearing that Amtrack is coming back to Akron. They were talking about putting it in the new new RTC. But they have yet to say when.
Harry Siegel

Cleveland, OH

#2 Apr 19, 2010
no comment
Pete

Cleveland, OH

#3 Apr 19, 2010
Great idea. But as usual the Reps hate anything progressive and will do everything in their power to stop progress.
West_Side

Chardon, OH

#4 Apr 19, 2010
I live near Metro and go to Northern Cincy a couple times a year for business. Takes about 3 hrs 30 min.
A Tuesday meeting from 9 am to 5 pm will go like this.

Leave Mon Night approx 4:30 pm
Return Tuesday Evening approx 8:30 pm
Total drive time = 7 hrs
Total Miles = 480
MPG = 25
Total Gallons = 20
Price per Gallon =$2.75 x (20)=$55
1 Night Hotel =$70 approx.
1 Dinner =$20

Total time = 28 hrs approx
Travel costs =$145 approx

Cost to take a train?
My understanding the train will leave Cleve in the morning so I would have to leave approx 1/2 day early.

Leave Monday morning 8:30 am Cab to train station for 9 am departure =$15 approx.
Train to Cincy cost =???
Cab to Car Rental =$10
2 Day Rental Car from Enterprise =$123.96
2 Night Hotel Stay =$140 approx
1 lunch =$10
2 Dinner =$40
Cab from Car Rental to Train Station =$10
Train to Cleveland arrive approx Noon.
Cab Home =$15

Total Time = 51.5 hrs approx
Total Cost (-Train Ticket)=$363.96
Round Trip Train Cost =$50 ???
Total Approx Cost =$400+

In conclusion, a one day business trip to Cincy would cost approx $255 more than driving and take and extra 23.5 hours, meaning I'm out of the office an extra two days (Mon & Wed). If I drive I'm in both days.

It's hard to calculate the cost of missing two days, depending on what's going on.

Unless you're planning on staying near Downtown for a few days, there's no advantage of taking the train.
This is not including a two-person trip, the cost increase approx 75% when taking the train.

The train project is a loser no matter how you look at it.
Real Patriot

Mount Vernon, OH

#5 Apr 19, 2010
West_Side wrote:
I live near Metro and go to Northern Cincy a couple times a year for business. Takes about 3 hrs 30 min.
A Tuesday meeting from 9 am to 5 pm will go like this.
Leave Mon Night approx 4:30 pm
Return Tuesday Evening approx 8:30 pm
Total drive time = 7 hrs
Total Miles = 480
MPG = 25
Total Gallons = 20
Price per Gallon =$2.75 x (20)=$55
1 Night Hotel =$70 approx.
1 Dinner =$20
Total time = 28 hrs approx
Travel costs =$145 approx
Cost to take a train?
My understanding the train will leave Cleve in the morning so I would have to leave approx 1/2 day early.
Leave Monday morning 8:30 am Cab to train station for 9 am departure =$15 approx.
Train to Cincy cost =???
Cab to Car Rental =$10
2 Day Rental Car from Enterprise =$123.96
2 Night Hotel Stay =$140 approx
1 lunch =$10
2 Dinner =$40
Cab from Car Rental to Train Station =$10
Train to Cleveland arrive approx Noon.
Cab Home =$15
Total Time = 51.5 hrs approx
Total Cost (-Train Ticket)=$363.96
Round Trip Train Cost =$50 ???
Total Approx Cost =$400+
In conclusion, a one day business trip to Cincy would cost approx $255 more than driving and take and extra 23.5 hours, meaning I'm out of the office an extra two days (Mon & Wed). If I drive I'm in both days.
It's hard to calculate the cost of missing two days, depending on what's going on.
Unless you're planning on staying near Downtown for a few days, there's no advantage of taking the train.
This is not including a two-person trip, the cost increase approx 75% when taking the train.
The train project is a loser no matter how you look at it.
Unlike driving, riding on a train is not down time, and I can't image that they would only have one trip per day, now that would be stupid.
Charlie E Hargrave

Concord, NH

#6 Apr 19, 2010
Hmmmm.... its gonna cost 29 mill a year to run the train. The train 'expects' revenues of 12 mill a year.

Hmmmm.... Why are we going backwards with transportation? I can think of any number of MUCH better ways to waste this kinda money.
West_Side

Chardon, OH

#7 Apr 19, 2010
Real Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike driving, riding on a train is not down time, and I can't image that they would only have one trip per day, now that would be stupid.
From my understanding, morning trains will leave Cleve and Cincy with definite stops in C-Bus.
Then there will be late afternoon/early evening departures.
Akron wants to be on the line, I don't know how that's panning out.

It's not like there will be trains departing every hour, only 2-3 a day.
Duh

Dover, OH

#8 Apr 20, 2010
25 million is being spent just explore the possibility of this idea working. Who gets the 25 million?

Since: Dec 08

Kerrville, TX

#9 Apr 20, 2010
Is Amtrac showing a profit or breaking even anywhere? Didn't think so. Personally, living in
Texas, I would just as soon not have any of my tax dollars spent on this. And just wait, It will end up being subsidised by the government somehow.

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