Charles Ramsey Criminal Record: Cleveland Hero Has Domestic Violence History

May 9, 2013 Full story: Switched 64

Charles Ramsey, the Cleveland man who has been hailed as a hero for his role in helping to free three women from the house where police say they were held, has a criminal record that includes a history of domestic violence , the Smoking Gun reports.

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Mee

Oakland, CA

#50 May 17, 2013
Another

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/strait.a...

Hero run rampant among them.

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#51 May 17, 2013
Mee wrote:
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Do note here where charles ramsey says that he kicked in the door...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =b04BaQKo6icXX
He is a liar and if you pay close attention to his words, many racial overtones are rooted in them.
Mr. Cordero is the real "hero" of that situation...
http://newsninja2012.com/alert-i-kicked-down-...
Mr. Cordero bowed down and allowed wife beating ramsey to take full credit for a reason. The liberal Media at it's finest.
Since you weren’t there, you cannot definitely say he didn’t kick in the door or assist in doing so. It is possible that both kicked at the door and rescued Berry.
Can you prove he is a liar or are you just going along with the very fickle media that changes its stories like quicksilver? First it used Ramsey to sell its stories, but now it finds it can sell more stories by ruining Ramsey and promoting Cordera. As you said, typical liberal media!

These “racial overtones” are simply his manner of speaking. He was not trying to be racist. The facts are that Berry is white, as he stated; she did run into the arms of a black man, as he likewise stated; so what is wrong with that? You accuse Ramsey of using racial overtones while you do just that. Your comments are full of racial innuendoes.
It seems to me that Cordera is not the humble one some of you make him out to be, for he seems very eager to claim all the credit instead of sharing it with Ramsey, as Ramsey did with him Is it not possible that the events unfolded as Ramsey related them to the press, that he saw Cordero rush to the victims’ house, ran over to see what was going on, then assisted Cordera in rescuing Berry? Why is everyone determined to malign Ramsey, who did a good thing in assisting Berry? Why aren’t BOTH MEN being given credit instead of one being called a liar and the other a hero?

Mr. Cordero did not “bow down and allowwife beating ramsey to take full credit”; rather, he couldn’t understand English so he was temporarily unable to respond. You know nothing about Cordera, so how do you know he also doesn’t have a criminal background? I read in one article that he is an illegal, and if so, does that not make him a lawbreaker, too?
The point is Ramsey was there; he was photographed walking with Berry; and he doesn’t deserve to be treated like a criminal.

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#52 May 17, 2013
Mee wrote:
Vile little judge icons on post...
http://www.topix.com/forum/cleveland/TDSUV8P8...
tells that many are very hungry for the the black fella to be the hero.
Your prejudice is showing.

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#53 May 17, 2013
Mee wrote:
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Exactly. Mr. Cordero is just a non english speaking foreigner while the lying, wife beating ramsey is the black man hero that saved the white girls. Do note how they played on the words, white girl runs into the arms of a black man. That right there is what made him the hero.
What I have noted is that you shouldn’t be accusing Ramsey of racial overtones, for you clearly reek of racism. You find yourself unable to mention Ramsey without letting your dislike of his race come out.

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#54 May 17, 2013
Mee wrote:
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Exactly. Mr. Cordero is just a non english speaking foreigner while the lying, wife beating ramsey is the black man hero that saved the white girls. Do note how they played on the words, white girl runs into the arms of a black man. That right there is what made him the hero.
You said the magic word, "NON ENGLISH SPEAKING FOREIGNER"!! It isn't Ramsey's fault that Cordero can't speak the English language and explain that he also assisted with freeing those girls!! It should definitely be law that IF you live in this country then bygod you have to learn how to speak the language!! Kudo's to Ramsey and Cordero is what I say, so why are you trying so damned hard to discredit Ramsey??? You related to Cordero??? I wouldn't care if it was a dog that helped those girls, as long as they are free!! Why do you or anyone else wanna actually argue who did what??? I'm glad Cordero and Ramsey both were there and Ramsey told that Cordero was there the first time he was ever interviewed. Don't blame Ramsey that Cordero didn't get the recognition that he should had, Cordero should had been able to tell that himself and IF he would learn the language, then bygod he could!!

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#55 May 17, 2013
Logan wrote:
<quoted text>Since you weren’t there, you cannot definitely say he didn’t kick in the door or assist in doing so. It is possible that both kicked at the door and rescued Berry.
Can you prove he is a liar or are you just going along with the very fickle media that changes its stories like quicksilver? First it used Ramsey to sell its stories, but now it finds it can sell more stories by ruining Ramsey and promoting Cordera. As you said, typical liberal media!
These “racial overtones” are simply his manner of speaking. He was not trying to be racist. The facts are that Berry is white, as he stated; she did run into the arms of a black man, as he likewise stated; so what is wrong with that? You accuse Ramsey of using racial overtones while you do just that. Your comments are full of racial innuendoes.
It seems to me that Cordera is not the humble one some of you make him out to be, for he seems very eager to claim all the credit instead of sharing it with Ramsey, as Ramsey did with him Is it not possible that the events unfolded as Ramsey related them to the press, that he saw Cordero rush to the victims’ house, ran over to see what was going on, then assisted Cordera in rescuing Berry? Why is everyone determined to malign Ramsey, who did a good thing in assisting Berry? Why aren’t BOTH MEN being given credit instead of one being called a liar and the other a hero?
Mr. Cordero did not “bow down and allowwife beating ramsey to take full credit”; rather, he couldn’t understand English so he was temporarily unable to respond. You know nothing about Cordera, so how do you know he also doesn’t have a criminal background? I read in one article that he is an illegal, and if so, does that not make him a lawbreaker, too?
The point is Ramsey was there; he was photographed walking with Berry; and he doesn’t deserve to be treated like a criminal.
Great post and I agree with you totally!!

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#56 May 17, 2013
Jenna Talia wrote:
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Plenty of Americans born here who dont speak English at home or everyday. There are Indian Reservations full of them speaking their Amerindian languages. Inuet People in Alaska.
Americans speaking French in northern Maine, Vermont, New York, New Hampshire along the Quebec border, as well as in the swamps of Louisiana (Cajun French). about 1.5 million Americans.
Americans who speak Spanish in Florida, and stretching from Texas to California, NYC, Puerto Rico, etc. over 35 million.
You can grow up and live in Chinatown in San Fran, L.A. or NYC without speaking English, they only speak Cantonese and Mandarin (over 2 million).
You'll hear only German among many Amish, Mennonite and Hudderite communities in Pennslyvania, Ohio, the Dakotas and Montana. Over 1.3 Million speakers.
President Martin VanBuren spoke Dutch in the White House, he had to learn English as a second language when he went away for school.
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Just because you dont have the IQ to learn a 2nd language.
Why the hell would I need a second language?? I live in the United States Of America were English is spoken!!! IF you are an immigrant and come to this country, then it should be mandatory to learn to speak the language or leave!! Simple as that!!

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#57 May 17, 2013
Darth Maul wrote:
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The girls were raped and held for 10 years. How is he a hero? did he prevent the rapes? No. Did he prevent the monster from holding those girls for years? No. He's not a hero!
He has prevented that monster from holding them for another damned decade, or the rest of their lives!! Did you yourself prevent the monster from holding those girls for years or raping them?? NO, you did not!! Did you or where you there to help the girls escape that day?? NO, you were not!! Why are you so hell bent on bashing Ramsey?? Are you racist or related to Cordero????***Shakes Head In Disbelief***

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#58 May 17, 2013
Angelus Tenebris wrote:
<quoted text>thank you shades of shadow, love the name btw. it amazes me how many people think that they can "discredit" an act by discrediting a person. he saved those girls, period. he saved those girls and hasn't asked for a dime in return, i know a guy on twitter who said that he'd been a racist all of his life and charles ramsey had inspired him to never again use the n word. in a twisted sort of way, that is actually inspiring.
let everyone say what they will, we need more people like charles ramsey.
You are very welcome and thank you as well!! You are so right, this world definitely does need more people like Ramsey!! Thank god he was there that day and god bless him!! Ramsey, Cordero or whoever helped, may god bless them!!

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#59 May 17, 2013
ShadesOfShadow wrote:
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Great post and I agree with you totally!!
I appreciate that! Thank you.

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#60 May 17, 2013
ShadesOfShadow wrote:
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You said the magic word, "NON ENGLISH SPEAKING FOREIGNER"!! It isn't Ramsey's fault that Cordero can't speak the English language and explain that he also assisted with freeing those girls!! It should definitely be law that IF you live in this country then bygod you have to learn how to speak the language!! Kudo's to Ramsey and Cordero is what I say, so why are you trying so damned hard to discredit Ramsey??? You related to Cordero??? I wouldn't care if it was a dog that helped those girls, as long as they are free!! Why do you or anyone else wanna actually argue who did what??? I'm glad Cordero and Ramsey both were there and Ramsey told that Cordero was there the first time he was ever interviewed. Don't blame Ramsey that Cordero didn't get the recognition that he should had, Cordero should had been able to tell that himself and IF he would learn the language, then bygod he could!!
Excellent points and well said! You have the right attitude.
Darth Maul

Jersey City, NJ

#61 May 17, 2013
ShadesOfShadow wrote:
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He has prevented that monster from holding them for another damned decade, or the rest of their lives!! Did you yourself prevent the monster from holding those girls for years or raping them?? NO, you did not!! Did you or where you there to help the girls escape that day?? NO, you were not!! Why are you so hell bent on bashing Ramsey?? Are you racist or related to Cordero????***Shakes Head In Disbelief***
Related to Cordero? No I'm not. I'm American. I'm racist? What the hell are you smoking? Where in any of my comments have I made race an issue. This situation is in no way related to any race issue. Perhaps it's time you start taking your meds.***Shakes head in disbelief*** LOL.
Darth Maul

Jersey City, NJ

#62 May 17, 2013
ShadesOfShadow wrote:
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He has prevented that monster from holding them for another damned decade, or the rest of their lives!! Did you yourself prevent the monster from holding those girls for years or raping them?? NO, you did not!! Did you or where you there to help the girls escape that day?? NO, you were not!! Why are you so hell bent on bashing Ramsey?? Are you racist or related to Cordero????***Shakes Head In Disbelief***
You're right I did not prevent those girls from being raped and tortured. But guess what neither did you! Did I help them escape? no! but neither did you! I'm basing my comments on WITNESS accounts on what happened and the facts on Ramsey's criminal record while you're basing yours on your opinions. I'm content to wait on Ms. Berry to say who truly rescued her while obviously you're not!***Shakes head in disbelief.*** LOL
Brandie

Boynton Beach, FL

#63 May 18, 2013
Reading this thread I sense a lot of anger and I could be wrong but it seems "misplaced anger".

We are all outraged and horrified that that evil Ariel could do these vile brutal crimes, we should be focusing on HIM. I do believe Ramsey and Cordova were hero's that day and I hope they get some reward money or at least someone could offer them better jobs and better living conditions for themselves and families, and I pray the girls heal from there hell on earth.

What I am FURIOUS about is that monster saying "I loved those girls" "I love my baby girl" "I treated them like my own" "I gave them food and water......

HE locked them up in chains and ropes and gags in basements and attic's, he beat and starved them till they aborted their babies, he let Amanda give birth in a plastic swimming pool, risking her bleeding to death and the child, he stole their virginity, their proms, graduations, boyfriends, marrriage, babies, their youth their LIVES, and then the piece of shittt has the nerve to say he loves them?? I hope he suffers like those girls and rots in prison till his dying day. He is not human!

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#64 May 18, 2013
Brandie wrote:
Reading this thread I sense a lot of anger and I could be wrong but it seems "misplaced anger".
We are all outraged and horrified that that evil Ariel could do these vile brutal crimes, we should be focusing on HIM. I do believe Ramsey and Cordova were hero's that day and I hope they get some reward money or at least someone could offer them better jobs and better living conditions for themselves and families, and I pray the girls heal from there hell on earth.
What I am FURIOUS about is that monster saying "I loved those girls" "I love my baby girl" "I treated them like my own" "I gave them food and water......
HE locked them up in chains and ropes and gags in basements and attic's, he beat and starved them till they aborted their babies, he let Amanda give birth in a plastic swimming pool, risking her bleeding to death and the child, he stole their virginity, their proms, graduations, boyfriends, marrriage, babies, their youth their LIVES, and then the piece of shittt has the nerve to say he loves them?? I hope he suffers like those girls and rots in prison till his dying day. He is not human!
Your statement of "I do believe Ramsey and Cordova were hero's that day and I hope they get some reward money or at least someone could offer them better jobs and better living conditions for themselves and families, and I pray the girls heal from there hell on earth." is perfect. This is how we should all feel instead of trying to tear down either man, for both helped, obviously, and both should be given credit.

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#65 May 18, 2013
Jenna Talia wrote:
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Plenty of Americans born here who dont speak English at home or everyday. There are Indian Reservations full of them speaking their Amerindian languages. Inuet People in Alaska.
Americans speaking French in northern Maine, Vermont, New York, New Hampshire along the Quebec border, as well as in the swamps of Louisiana (Cajun French). about 1.5 million Americans.
Americans who speak Spanish in Florida, and stretching from Texas to California, NYC, Puerto Rico, etc. over 35 million.
You can grow up and live in Chinatown in San Fran, L.A. or NYC without speaking English, they only speak Cantonese and Mandarin (over 2 million).
You'll hear only German among many Amish, Mennonite and Hudderite communities in Pennslyvania, Ohio, the Dakotas and Montana. Over 1.3 Million speakers.
President Martin VanBuren spoke Dutch in the White House, he had to learn English as a second language when he went away for school.
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Just because you dont have the IQ to learn a 2nd language.
“Just because you dont have the IQ to learn a 2nd language.” Was it really necessary to insult his IQ? You have no idea what his IQ is and so have no excuse for that affront. There are many who are highly intelligent and know only one language. We live in an English speaking country and our language is English, so why should anyone be required to learn another language if he doesn’t wish to do so? I feel as he does in that when one moves to another country, he should learn the language of that country.
lol at derps

Hazleton, PA

#66 May 19, 2013
I have to admit that it is funny that Charles Ramsey contradicts himself in the viral video, and what he stated earlier in a 9-1-1 call. According to his 9-1-1 call he was watching Angel kick in the door from his own home, before he put his nose into the goings on.

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#67 May 19, 2013
lol at derps wrote:
I have to admit that it is funny that Charles Ramsey contradicts himself in the viral video, and what he stated earlier in a 9-1-1 call. According to his 9-1-1 call he was watching Angel kick in the door from his own home, before he put his nose into the goings on.
That’s interesting, for I listened to the 9-11 call and didn’t hear him say he was “watching Angel kick in the door from his own home, before he put his nose into the goings on.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/...

Perhaps you could post the video you listened to so we can hear Ramsey contradict himself.
bam

Phenix City, AL

#68 May 19, 2013
So what if he has a record. He helped this girl escape. That doesn't make domestic abuse ok. But stop trying to put this man down. He washed these girls. They should be the main focus here

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#69 May 19, 2013
bam wrote:
So what if he has a record. He helped this girl escape. That doesn't make domestic abuse ok. But stop trying to put this man down. He washed these girls. They should be the main focus here
Your logic is appreciated. I don't see why Ramsey's background is of any concern, for all that matters is that he helped rescue those women. I feel certain that none of those victims care about the background of their rescuers.

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