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The more I read and learn about this story, the more horified I become. I feel for the families. It is indeed rare to find a black serial killer.

nobodyinohio

I have never smelled a dead body, but I hear the the smell is awful. Why didn't the police do more? A resident called her city offical last year twice!!! Still this crazy fool was on the run until last week.

Danielle

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Ya know, I hate to say this, but I hope that this guy gets the book thrown at him. Who knows how many women actually suffered at the hands of this sadistic creep? It says that 22 women are missing in the community, and I think it might be time to look at the abandoned properties around the house, not just the house.

nobodyinohio

Danielle wrote:

Ya know, I hate to say this, but I hope that this guy gets the book thrown at him. Who knows how many women actually suffered at the hands of this sadistic creep? It says that 22 women are missing in the community, and I think it might be time to look at the abandoned properties around the house, not just the house.

You're so right!!! I am just sick about the whole matter. Those poor families. Someone mother, daughter, wife, friend, etc...... is in that house and has been for quite a while.

Maumi

Grove City, OH

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At least some of the families can finallly have some closure. I wonder how many other lives he destroyed. They stated that they will be searching abandonded properties in the neighborhood, as well as previous neighborhoods that he may have resided in.
I in no way condone this mans behavior, but when we train men to kill and send them overseas where they actually carry out their learned abilities, then bring them back to the states with no type of rehab and just throw them back into society then you get individuals that behave like this.
This man killed multiple women, shoved them into areas of his house where he slept and lived like this for God knows how long...I just can't imagine his mindframe, nor the greif the family memebers are experiencing. This is horrible and should've been prevented. Maybe one day our government will repair all the loopholes in the system so that tragedies such as this one can be limited.

ONE

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Maumi wrote:

At least some of the families can finallly have some closure. I wonder how many other lives he destroyed. They stated that they will be searching abandonded properties in the neighborhood, as well as previous neighborhoods that he may have resided in.
I in no way condone this mans behavior, but when we train men to kill and send them overseas where they actually carry out their learned abilities, then bring them back to the states with no type of rehab and just throw them back into society then you get individuals that behave like this.
This man killed multiple women, shoved them into areas of his house where he slept and lived like this for God knows how long...I just can't imagine his mindframe, nor the greif the family memebers are experiencing. This is horrible and should've been prevented. Maybe one day our government will repair all the loopholes in the system so that tragedies such as this one can be limited.

This has to do nothing with men being trained and sending them overseas, it's about a sick individual, a sick man.

Since: Aug 07

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Cleveland

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This didn't have to go on as long as it did. I hear people saying why didn't people notify the police, why weren't there phone calls. Well that makes me sick. There were phone calls. There were people calling all the time. A councilman called the police about the smell, he had phone logs to prove it. The health department was notified. Nothing was done. I'm not one to always blame race, but this reeks of racism. If this had been well to do nice suburb of whites, you better believe the report of missing women would have made headlines. The smell would have been investigated. People say there's a no-snitching environment in the neighborhood. But I know this area, most of these people live in quietness. They work every day and pay taxes like anybody else. Why were their calls ignored? Also, I don't buy the lame excuse that there wasn't enough manpower to watch this maniac. There's plenty of manpower ready to dismantle his house brick by brick all of a sudden. Now that Cleveland is on the world map for having a serial killer and a crime this huge, suddenly police are available. This reeks....

dontbeafool

Dublin, OH

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Police can't investigate smells. That would be the job of code enforcement/health department. IF you read, you would see they did investigate and it was believed to be the meat plant which is a reasonable conclusion.

Even if they COULD determine it was the suspects house, all they could do is knock on the door or leave a note. There would be no justification to enter the house or obtain a warrant. If the latest rape victim had not agreed to cooperate, this ordeal would still be playing out and he would still be walking free.

Those who blame the police, city, and mayor and cry racism are just plain ignorant. What about the alert patrol officers who spotted and arrested this man? Or the detectives and investigators that built the rape case and filed charges?

I forgot, they mean nothing. It is the polices' fault this man commited the crimes, not his.

You people are sick.

Since: Aug 07

2,565

Cleveland

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Yes, most police do investigate smells, especially when people report it smells like a dead body. Most police do this in the regular course of business. Your post shows just how much you don't know. The police deal with death all the time, they certainly know what a dead body smells like. They certainly do know the difference between the smell of sausage and the smell of deteriorating flesh. If you think the police are that dumb, your post reveals how uneducated you are. Reports were made of missing women, all around the same area. Instead of the police connecting the dots, knowing a serial killer was living in the area, they ignored it. They ignored the phone calls of citizens, they ignored the councilman who called repeatedly, they ignored the serial killer who blatantly displayed mistreatment of women, just like the police ignored Tracy Dugard's captor. They let things slip. Post what you know.

dontbeafool wrote:

Police can't investigate smells. That would be the job of code enforcement/health department. IF you read, you would see they did investigate and it was believed to be the meat plant which is a reasonable conclusion.
Even if they COULD determine it was the suspects house, all they could do is knock on the door or leave a note. There would be no justification to enter the house or obtain a warrant. If the latest rape victim had not agreed to cooperate, this ordeal would still be playing out and he would still be walking free.
Those who blame the police, city, and mayor and cry racism are just plain ignorant. What about the alert patrol officers who spotted and arrested this man? Or the detectives and investigators that built the rape case and filed charges?
I forgot, they mean nothing. It is the polices' fault this man commited the crimes, not his.
You people are sick.

dontbeafool

Dublin, OH

Jenny you have NO idea how wrong you are.

All the calls, letters, visits mean NOTHING without a warrant or probable cause.

How about you educate yourself on the 4th amendment. You cannot search/enter a persons home without warrant or exigent circumstances. Niether of which the police had.

A smell would not give rise to probable cause, nor would that coupled with him being a sexual offender. Without the latest victim of rape providing the details she did, an arrest warrant would not have been able to be secured for his arrest giving them the ability to enter his home.

A smell is not a circumstance which would allow warrantless entry. The smell of rotting meat is rotting meat, human or otherwise.

You can only investigate so much on a missing person until you hit a dead-end. Without there being any other circumstances that place someone in a high risk category, the report will usually dwindle to a halt.

Bob

Cambridge, OH

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nobodyinohio wrote:

I have never smelled a dead body, but I hear the the smell is awful. Why didn't the police do more? A resident called her city offical last year twice!!! Still this crazy fool was on the run until last week.

If the police did "more" the fine residents would have called them racists. And the clergy couldn't do anything about it because they were busy protesting the Jena 6.

Bob

Cambridge, OH

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jenny623 wrote:

This didn't have to go on as long as it did. I hear people saying why didn't people notify the police, why weren't there phone calls. Well that makes me sick. There were phone calls. There were people calling all the time. A councilman called the police about the smell, he had phone logs to prove it. The health department was notified. Nothing was done. I'm not one to always blame race, but this reeks of racism. If this had been well to do nice suburb of whites, you better believe the report of missing women would have made headlines. The smell would have been investigated. People say there's a no-snitching environment in the neighborhood. But I know this area, most of these people live in quietness. They work every day and pay taxes like anybody else. Why were their calls ignored? Also, I don't buy the lame excuse that there wasn't enough manpower to watch this maniac. There's plenty of manpower ready to dismantle his house brick by brick all of a sudden. Now that Cleveland is on the world map for having a serial killer and a crime this huge, suddenly police are available. This reeks....

I know! Those evil white peoples made him do it. Just like Kanye said about George Bush, Baraq Obama hates black peoples.

Termite

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Bob wrote:

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I know! Those evil white peoples made him do it. Just like Kanye said about George Bush, Baraq Obama hates black peoples.

Evil white people.....what jungle in Africa did you come from?

pcfromfl

Pompano Beach, FL

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Termite wrote:

<quoted text>Evil white people.....what jungle in Africa did you come from?

I agree with termite

Since: Aug 07

2,565

Cleveland

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Your ignorance is overwhelming. They had more than probable cause. They had the complaints and phone calls of the citizens. They had the phone calls of the councilman. This went on for years. This was not some ordinary citizen we're talking about, this is a convicted felon and the smell of dead flesh is coming from his home. There are missing women reported. There are woman claiming he tried to rape them reported. What about those who survived who reported his behavior? Keep excusing this will you. There were tons of missed opportunities. I know you don't want to believe the police did wrong here but I'm not the only one questioning the missed opportunities. The red flags were all over. Why didn't the police put a watch over him when female survivors reported he tried to rape them? What about the woman who jumped out of the window? If it wasn't for this last survivor, Sowell would still be conducting business as usual. I live in a predominately white area, you report something and the police are here on the spot. Now you tell me why that went on so long, and you give me some intelligent reasoning.

dontbeafool wrote:

Jenny you have NO idea how wrong you are.
All the calls, letters, visits mean NOTHING without a warrant or probable cause.
How about you educate yourself on the 4th amendment. You cannot search/enter a persons home without warrant or exigent circumstances. Niether of which the police had.
A smell would not give rise to probable cause, nor would that coupled with him being a sexual offender. Without the latest victim of rape providing the details she did, an arrest warrant would not have been able to be secured for his arrest giving them the ability to enter his home.
A smell is not a circumstance which would allow warrantless entry. The smell of rotting meat is rotting meat, human or otherwise.
You can only investigate so much on a missing person until you hit a dead-end. Without there being any other circumstances that place someone in a high risk category, the report will usually dwindle to a halt.

yadontknow

Lancaster, OH

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Cleveland needs an enema

Joy

Surprise, AZ

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sick dude

sugarbaby

Kimper, KY

HAVE THEY FOUND OUT WHO ANY OF THE MISSING WOMEN ARE THIS IS HORRIBLE, HOW COME HE WASINT CAUGHT SOONER

2 cents

Vermilion, OH

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Ok,
I hate to say this but you sound like you have a few prejudices of your own.

How many serial killers committed their crimes for years before being caught? Who are Gacy, Bundy, Dahmer and Gary Ridgeway? Were they not caught due to a "mistake" they made? Definitely yes, did not Dahmer last victim escape which lead to his capture. Were there red flags? There were some. Did these things not occur in more "affluent areas? Some did. Were things not missed? Most definitely! Are there enough police to watch EVERY suspect? I tend to think not. Will this happen again? I'd say yes. Will it happen to any race, any creed, any ONE? Yes. Why? Becuase some humans are just sick individuals.

There's your argument now have fun.

jenny623 wrote:

Your ignorance is overwhelming. They had more than probable cause. They had the complaints and phone calls of the citizens. They had the phone calls of the councilman. This went on for years. This was not some ordinary citizen we're talking about, this is a convicted felon and the smell of dead flesh is coming from his home. There are missing women reported. There are woman claiming he tried to rape them reported. What about those who survived who reported his behavior? Keep excusing this will you. There were tons of missed opportunities. I know you don't want to believe the police did wrong here but I'm not the only one questioning the missed opportunities. The red flags were all over. Why didn't the police put a watch over him when female survivors reported he tried to rape them? What about the woman who jumped out of the window? If it wasn't for this last survivor, Sowell would still be conducting business as usual. I live in a predominately white area, you report something and the police are here on the spot. Now you tell me why that went on so long, and you give me some intelligent reasoning.
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Since: Aug 07

2,565

Cleveland