“The old members are faithful members. They're going to be there”
Posted by James F. McCarty and David Briggs January 07, 2008 17:29PM A Cleveland minister just released last month from federal prison was named Monday in a 27-count indictment for theft-related charges. via The Plain Dealer
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#22 Sep 4, 2008
Well, Brother Harris I believe you are truly a man of God; you see I visited that New Liberty COGIC when Derek Rimson and his new group were there, I too have a copy of the program which he listed his cabinet, board of director members. I went back and dug it out of many papers; and to my suprise about the middle of that booklet or so, Pastor Derek Rimson name his new board of director members just as they are listed on the net.
I would just like to say to all the people out there who is posting your comment on the net regarding this pastor and the mess that he left that church in; get your facts straight.
We are not to lie on anyone, so say the Bible.
God is going to hold you accountable for your words.
I have a copy of the church program. Chris of la told the truth.
It is what it is, like her or not; like it or not>>it is what it is..the truth.
Let me just say this; I will stand up with this Chris of LA any time>>the lady is honest and she is Bold and Brave.
GOD LOVES THE TRUTH; SO DO I.
LET US ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS KEEP THIS LADY IN OUR PRAYERS.
#23 Sep 4, 2008
You know in the Bible it tells us that these things will happen just as they are happening today.
I am not suprise; however, the thing that bothers me the most is I see so much compromising with the
It is easy to find people in the churches that just go alone with any and every thing the Leaders and the does on this day and time.
God is coming back soon and we just better be ready when he comes.
read your bible and Stay with Jesus.
#24 Sep 10, 2008
This is to be lied on since you are afraid to post your name we all know that you are a coward and a liar. The program list the members of derek rimson board just as they are listed in my statement.
There is one thing that is for sure; everybody who know me will tell you and everybody else that I will stand and the tell the truth on any body, anywhere, and anytime.
why didn't you check out my tv (cable) show. I ran this information regarding this crook derek rimson from feb to August posting his picture alone with his lying wife . I have the legal documents; I, like so many of you hypocrits will not talk about someone behind their back. I will tell you to your face; that that I have to say to you.
now everybody that is telling the truth on derek; have no problem with posting their name.
But we all know why you and others like you did not post you name...???? yea! we know.
But just remember God is all seeing and all knowing. You can't hid from him, and nor can derek.
I told Liberty that this would happen even before derek was appointed at the Liberty Church. I told Bishop Blake that derek was a problem Leader shortly after he was appointed. I have the letter.
Every thing that God told me to tell The Church and Bishop Blake happened just as God said it would.
So, It matters less to me what people like you and other false chr. say nor do.
I will forever stay with God and tell the truth.
Oh by the way I also have all four books of the court transcripts; so you just go and cool your self off.
I am praying for your salvation. Love Ya.
#25 Sep 22, 2008
oh what a story!
This is definitely one for the world. Just think that Derek Rimson teaching, praying, laying hands on folks, shouting and singing over there at Liberty Church of God In Christ.
I visited there once, Sister, he was just too far off the hook for me. Listen, I am not even saved yet; but I just keep thinking to myself, something is wrong with this man.
And I just can't hardly believe that Bishop Charles E. Blake allowed this to happen to all of the people who help to build that church property and pay for it, and he just drops this crook down over there at the Church, the house of God, and never looked back.
Well, I don't know much about a whole lot; but I just know that Bro. Ray Charles could have seen this.
My question would be to the Bishop; What kind of RELATIONSHIP did or does he have with this Apostle, allowing him to do all of that?
I must say the relationship between these 2 mens are questionable.
This is real deep. I really feel sorry for every one of the members that were ignored, and it seems like you all are still being ignored.
I recently heard that the church is being sold to
another minister off main somewhere.
But how can the church be sold without the members who paid for it agreeing?
This is definitely one for the FEDS, THE COURTS, AND THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO HEAR ABOUT THIS.
Stay strong all of you. I just don't know what else to say. Where is the money? Does any one know if Derek Rimson gave Bishop some of the money?
This is just not righ.
this kind of stuff keep people like me out of church; why go?
#26 Sep 23, 2008
hi, to chris of LA;
how is things going at that church; New Liberty Church of God In Christ?
Did the Bishop get things right?
How are the members of Liberty>>>>who paid for that property?
Well just wanted you to know that we are praying for you all.
Stay strong in the Lord. I just wish that I had your bravery to take a strong stand for the truth. I know that God is with you. He will keep you strong; because God loves the truth.
In this last and evil day the church all over the world need strong saints like yourself, be encouraged. And just you remember, you are not alone, there are many people who are praying for you. May God forever Bless you are always in my prayers, tho, I have never met you, I believe that you are a woman of great FAITH.
#27 Sep 23, 2008
Hi Kindle P;
Everything is about the same. Sad to say that we have not heard from nor seen Bishop Blake.
Craig Lowe stated that Bishop Blake is selling him the church. However, the church property is not Bishop Blake to sell.
Craig Lowe, is excited about buying the property, I told him that the property belong to the members who paid for it, that the Church property is not for sale.
I Believe that the Bible is right, and man is wrong.
God is going to repay every man for what he does; especially Bishops, Pastors, Apostle, Evangelist, Teachers (all leaders).
We all have to stand before God one day.
But greed as the bible speaks of; will cause many of so called saints to go to hell. We are praying for their souls.
Thank you all for all of your prayers
#28 Sep 25, 2008
If Iím not mistaken, is this the same PROPHET KENNTH KINDLE that Attended Greater Harvest C.O.G.I.C in Long Beach CA.? I was a member there 5yrs ago. Arenít you a known homosexual? You fat bastard. How dare you come on here and talk about someone else when you have your own have skeletons that are going to be exposed. Now if I'm not mistaken didn't you molest a young man at Greater Harvest, while he was in the bathroom? And you have three adopted children and are molesting the two little boys, and using these poor innocent children for money; you will be paid a visit from child services very soon. Oh yeah you have Identified and you are the weakest link BYE, BYE
#29 Sep 25, 2008
For clarity sake I'm refering to the person who is posting under the (Kindle P.) BTW hows your(cover-up) meaning ur fat Gorilla looking wife... Tell her I said hello
#30 Sep 27, 2008
Well u are mistaken whom ever kindle p is, is for the mess, prophet kindle is a man of God and it is best that you keep your mouth off the man of God, before you end up with a stroke or worst. Why would you try to jeopardize his family with lies because you don't know who is telling the truth. May God reveal the truth about you, and you can stop using the fake name Daniels.
God bless Deacon Jones
#31 Sep 27, 2008
hot mess be carful what u say about people it will come back to u !
#32 Sep 27, 2008
#33 Sep 29, 2008
Wow, it isn't hard to believe all this mess is going on. Chris, I was a member of the New Liberty and saw your program air on cable. I did my own investigation, only because I saw your show, and because I believed there were more to the mistreatment of Deacon Jones, along with a few others that were being forced out the church. God's house should be open to everyone, or at least that's what I believe. Everyone in the church could have known what was going on if they would have opened their eyes. Most of the documentation was right in front of them, and if they had truly listened to what he was saying, they would have figued it out. It actually was all there; and some of this he spoke of, but out of context; you'd have to really listen to put it all together and figure out what was going on. I believe in his ministry; I believed in the good of the church, just as I believe in GOD himself, and wanted to do good things in the church; I just didn't think he wanted the same, and that is why I decided to leave, and I guess, just at the right time. I do believe that Rimson is a man of God and that he has just fallen short. He is one of the best preachers I've heard, and I feel sorry for him and his family. The devil will take control of the best of us, if we allow him; our faith has to be strong in God. I'm sure some might read this and think the church family is whom I should feel sorry for, but the fact is, if they had paid more attention to what was going on, they would have questioned things, just as I. I would question, why the members, as well as the newly appointed board members didn't question where all the money was going, especially the board members who had inside information. I suspect they didnot paid close enough attention to the facts, or did, but didn't care enough about the church to question. Chris, I believe that if you had handled this a little differently than going public the way that you did, and spoke to the members directly, you would have made an impact long ago. It only have to put a few issues on the table, that are questionable, to put doubt in the minds of people to listen. It's all about the approach; that's how he got people to listen, he had the right approach.
On another note, it is sad to hear, if the church is really up for sale. Bishop needs to put another paster in the church, and allow the members to rebuild the image to that Liberty left.
Sister Rimson, if you read this, you may know who I am, in fact most member will. I am praying for you, as you were a temendous help to me in my personal life. I think you are a good hearted person. Reach out to me, my numbers are still the same.
#34 Sep 29, 2008
Also, to the person who made mention of Pastor Kindle's personal life; please don't put your mouth on the man of God. Kindle is a kind man, a good husband, and father to his children. He is also a good friend to anyone who meets him. How dare you accuse him of such horrific acts. People, don't believe everything a person tells you, neither should you spread words of others, especially when you have no facts to back them up.
#35 Sep 30, 2008
yes sir, Kindle is the real one.
may the truth be told
#36 Sep 30, 2008
Oh, what a mess!
Somebody please tell me; what is Bishop Charles E. Blake doing messing up that Church history like that?
Gee, why did he do that?
I believe that he and Derek Rimson, That steve johnson, and craig lowe are going to have to answer for their part in this mess.
And what happen to craig lowe church? I heard that he only been a pastor for 5 years is this true?
I just visited there once when steve johnson was there he is a fake, and a liar. Poor Liberty
#37 Sep 30, 2008
And then after he was there for a few months, acting like mr. cool. Bishop Blake sent craig lowe over there; I visited once just to hear what he had to say about God and his people.
Man, you would not believe the side show that this man allows his followers to put on in the church.
he have a group of unsaved, unlearned people following him; he needs to teach these people, I left there feeling like I just left a social club.
look. there was this one lady that got up and was testifying how the Lord healed her..he just jumped up and cut her off, but he allowed his followers to talk about ball game, fishing, and all he talks about is his family, and his phd other degree he have.
Bishop Blake needs a wake up call and in a hurry.
messing up the Liberty history this way. Go by and listen to this fat fool for yourself, he begs for money, he can't preach nor teach, oh it is awful.
Blake go and rescue God's people NOW! do your job>>>
#38 Sep 30, 2008
Just searching the forum for some solid news; I just have a short note for all of you after reading all of the comments I stumbled on regarding Derek A. Rimson and the Liberty Church.
I am a reported for a news paper; One sunday I visited this church just to see what was going on over there.
I must say that if I were Bishop Charles E. Blake I would not allow all of this to continue to go on with these So Called Pastors.
This was my first time seeing this pastor Craig Lowe. He is not yet ready to be a leader.
The mens that follows him are completely out of order, especially in testimony service; The pastor just allows them to get up and talk about anything, and everything, but not about what God is doing for them.
I left there questioning this man ability to led anyone. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HIM NOBODY IS COMING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY TO HEAR ABOUT HIS FAMILY.
#39 Sep 30, 2008
This is a sad situation regarding Liberty church Of God In Christ.
Bishop Charles Blake should really get a resume on the Pastors before he place them over God's people.
I know according to my Bible Bishop Charles Blake is going to have to give in account to God for this mess.
You know you really don't want to start to think that all of these Bishops, and pastors are in an religious cult.
I know that people makes mistakes; God do forgive. But when we do not ackknowledge the mistake and repent; that is dangerous
#40 Sep 30, 2008
The Bible tells us to be not deceived for God is not mocked; For whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.
If I were some of these mens: Charles Blake, Steve Johnson, and Craig Lowe I would be a lot scared about this. How can you just mistreat a praying man and go on as if you haven't done anything; just because you want his Church.
How can you sleep at night knowing that you have wrong your brother or sister? Think about it; God is greater and more powerful that an of us. He is all seeing and all knowing. He knows what is really in our hearts.
What about do unto others, as you would have them do to you/ By this shall all mens know that ye are my disciple when you show love one to the other.
#41 Sep 30, 2008
Bishop Blake needs to clear that debt and give the church back to the people who paid for it.
Give Bishop Harvey Tyler his money as he promised.
Pray Pray Pray and then Pray some more as Solomon did and ask God to give him the wisdom that he needs so that he will be able to guide his people.
Bishop Blake Need to call a meeting with all of the Liberty members>>I mean the true members who he hurt and ask them to forgive him.
Then he need to seriously seek the God for guidance He must acknowledge that he need God's Help.
But as for now Let us all pray for this Church Family that have suffered so much un-neccessary.
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