Former Methodist Episcopal minister accused of $300,000 theft

Jan 7, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Plain Dealer

“The old members are faithful members. They're going to be there”

Posted by James F. McCarty and David Briggs January 07, 2008 17:29PM A Cleveland minister just released last month from federal prison was named Monday in a 27-count indictment for theft-related charges. via The Plain Dealer

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are you really making fun of the people who lost their lives in 911?
Are you REALLY going to use that epoch for your straw man argument?

Did you know that Israel has mandated the use of secure and defensible airline cockpit doors for over 40 to successfully prevent airline hijackings, while the US has used secure and defensible airline cockpit doors to successfully prevent airline hijackings since 9/12/2001?
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You people of God are really deep.
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You people of God are really deep.
no one can ever get too deep for JESUS!

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No i wasn't his wife's lover were you. I had been wondering whatever happen to him. you really sound stupid. I happended upon this forum. yeah I live in Detroit and I know him as a man of God. To Evangelist Chris I believe you and the church members this is certainly a tragedy.I commend you for speaking out against what is wrong. He has to pay for his deeds just like anyone else. The same thing goes on everywhere people make gods out of these mortal men and women.
@ Alicia......Girl pay some of these posters no mind. U can tell who is 4 the right by some of the things they write. I was attacked for speaking out against Derek Rimson myself. But I made the mistake of responding back 2 the poster. I agree with Evangelist Chris & Bobby just ignore the negative commets. I like u was shocked 2 hear Derek was getting away with this kind of behavior especially b/c of the strong spiritual background he comes from he's cousins 2 the Gospel Singers The Clark Sisters. I know them beautiful womens and they r nothing like him. Not 2 mention his aunt the late great Mattie Moss Clark whom I know is looking down shaking her head in disgust!!! That woman didn't play and didn't believe in crookness. I'm sure his cousins r ashamed. He reminds me of another one of his Gospel Singing cousins(A-man) Star
in his own right and a cheater himself. I'm so sad @ how he done them poor church folks and his wife with all the cheating but if u don't start right (regarding the cheating) it won't end right. I know he's been married b/4 so he really wasn't Terry's husband. I don't understand why the Bishop wont sit him down. I am highly disappointed in Bishop Blake. I love him and his wife dearly he is my Bishop but I've always felt Bishop is kind of passive when it
comes 2 speaking out against the wrong especially if it's someone close 2 him. And Derek's family and Dereks mother in law is very close 2 Bishop Blake......... But that don't mean he should be able 2 get away with his wrong doing?????????? The Late Bishop G.E Patterson preached on being disappointed in some of the things the so calls saints were doing in the name of the lord. No wonder he wanted out of it. Derek should be in jail and thats just the bottom line.........(side-frown)!!!!! !!!!

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Thank you Honey I Believe U. I did not know the Clark sisters and the Rimsons are related. They have visited my church along with J. Moss and others and this is the first time i have heard that. I belong to Marvin Winans church and we have seen them all. L.A. and Detroit are kind of similiar in that we have a lot of gospel singers and big churches. But GOD is the only star. Can you let me know how they are related. I get it now Karen Clarks husbands church is named Greater Emmanuel Institutional Church of God in Christ. So thats why Derrick probably changed Libertys name to something similar. Also he was bringing big name people to Liberty. So maybe he was trying to keep up with his family. The Clarks not so much J. Moss are anointed. See too many people knew Derrick here and I don't believe he could have done what he has done there here. Even G.E. Patterson lived here for a time and had a successful church. Bishop Blake got fooled I think he put a lot of trust in him because of his familys history in COGIC.Everthing can't always be settled quietly.
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I believe Derek Rimson was friends with Sis Mae Blake because she's from Detroit so maybe thats why he gave him a chance. For those that don't know Bishop Blake silenced Derek for 2 years and told him that he could not pastor a church under COGIC so thats why he left COGIC and joined another denomination. You know the bible says many are called but few are chosen. I believe Derek was called thats why he could preach but one of the chosen I don't think so. God knows before hand what we are going to do thats why he put things at our hand just to see how stupid we can be. Derek proved that so he better be prepared for his punishment. It don't matter who he knows its if he is right with Jesus. I don't care what Chris or anybody says God will do the judging for all of us. When can preach the walls down but is it well with our souls. We all know where we stand with God. When can email, txt whatever only God and the person know where they stand. I've read it all on this website and its crazy how people are prasing people and not God
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my bad for some of my spelling
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@ Alicia......Girl pay some of these posters no mind. U can tell who is 4 the right by some of the things they write. I was attacked for speaking out against Derek Rimson myself. But I made the mistake of responding back 2 the poster. I agree with Evangelist Chris & Bobby just ignore the negative commets. I like u was shocked 2 hear Derek was getting away with this kind of behavior especially b/c of the strong spiritual background he comes from he's cousins 2 the Gospel Singers The Clark Sisters. I know them beautiful womens and they r nothing like him. Not 2 mention his aunt the late great Mattie Moss Clark whom I know is looking down shaking her head in disgust!!! That woman didn't play and didn't believe in crookness. I'm sure his cousins r ashamed. He reminds me of another one of his Gospel Singing cousins(A-man) Star
in his own right and a cheater himself. I'm so sad @ how he done them poor church folks and his wife with all the cheating but if u don't start right (regarding the cheating) it won't end right. I know he's been married b/4 so he really wasn't Terry's husband. I don't understand why the Bishop wont sit him down. I am highly disappointed in Bishop Blake. I love him and his wife dearly he is my Bishop but I've always felt Bishop is kind of passive when it
comes 2 speaking out against the wrong especially if it's someone close 2 him. And Derek's family and Dereks mother in law is very close 2 Bishop Blake......... But that don't mean he should be able 2 get away with his wrong doing?????????? The Late Bishop G.E Patterson preached on being disappointed in some of the things the so calls saints were doing in the name of the lord. No wonder he wanted out of it. Derek should be in jail and thats just the bottom line.........(side-frown)!!!!! !!!!
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Maria Gardner ain't no saint! She has skeletons in her closet too. She was suppose to be counseling a couple with their marital problems, she then told that man to leave his wife. How dirty was that! Then Maria turns around and marry the man herself. And she so holy! Terrie gets what she deserves for being so stupid knowing that Derek is having relations with women in the church. And still doing it.
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Derek was forced out of the cogic because of his affair with one of his members was about to go public. He didn't want the world to know that he preys on young grieving women. So he stepped down with his tail between his legs. Terrie so dumb she covers for his dirty deeds and still stay with him. And he stays because he's on Maria payroll to stay with her daughter.
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@ Alicia......Girl pay some of these posters no mind. U can tell who is 4 the right by some of the things they write. I was attacked for speaking out against Derek Rimson myself. But I made the mistake of responding back 2 the poster. I agree with Evangelist Chris & Bobby just ignore the negative commets. I like u was shocked 2 hear Derek was getting away with this kind of behavior especially b/c of the strong spiritual background he comes from he's cousins 2 the Gospel Singers The Clark Sisters. I know them beautiful womens and they r nothing like him. Not 2 mention his aunt the late great Mattie Moss Clark whom I know is looking down shaking her head in disgust!!! That woman didn't play and didn't believe in crookness. I'm sure his cousins r ashamed. He reminds me of another one of his Gospel Singing cousins(A-man) Star
in his own right and a cheater himself. I'm so sad @ how he done them poor church folks and his wife with all the cheating but if u don't start right (regarding the cheating) it won't end right. I know he's been married b/4 so he really wasn't Terry's husband. I don't understand why the Bishop wont sit him down. I am highly disappointed in Bishop Blake. I love him and his wife dearly he is my Bishop but I've always felt Bishop is kind of passive when it
comes 2 speaking out against the wrong especially if it's someone close 2 him. And Derek's family and Dereks mother in law is very close 2 Bishop Blake......... But that don't mean he should be able 2 get away with his wrong doing?????????? The Late Bishop G.E Patterson preached on being disappointed in some of the things the so calls saints were doing in the name of the lord. No wonder he wanted out of it. Derek should be in jail and thats just the bottom line.........(side-frown)!!!!! !!!!
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Speaking of Blake Darryl Blake that is, he was removed from his church for: Stealing Money and Cheating. Busted on video, audio, and pictures and they had to get a Restraining Order on him to stay away from the church. So what's the difference between Derek and Darryl if they did the same thing.
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Maria Gardner ain't no saint! She has skeletons in her closet too. She was suppose to be counseling a couple with their marital problems, she then told that man to leave his wife. How dirty was that! Then Maria turns around and marry the man herself. And she so holy! Terrie gets what she deserves for being so stupid knowing that Derek is having relations with women in the church. And still doing it.
Believe me I am not taking up for Maria Gardner. Somebody told me last year about the story u told in ur post. I was shocked and stunned never knew it. But I will say on Terri behalf b/c I grew up
with her years ago when we went to the same church thats how I know
Maria she was friends with my pastor who she backstabbed (read my
earlier post on this forum) her mother was very very dominnering
when we was kids. She would even pick who Terri friends was. She said Terri never bucked her just did what she said. Terri saw her father also a deacon @ our church abuse her mother. So she is just a product of her envirmoment. I must say I was stunn she did the couple like that I felt she had issues but I yet respected her 2
a degree but that was low down and dirty and u do reap what u sow.
her oldest son Darrin (who's now dead) would bump head all day
long b/c he would stand up 2 her. They got along like oil and water
Maria was a tuff mother 2 have she would tell stories about how
she would grab a water hose 2 whop her sons. Terri is just turning her head like she saw her mom did when her Dad was abusing her mom.
I would see and hear Maria get up in church and say it was nobody business what he was doing 2 her he was still her husband and she was still going 2 wash clean and cook for him????? So she doing
what she saw her mother do..........Yea she silly!!! But so was her mom towards her dad and he had affairs 2.
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Speaking of Blake Darryl Blake that is, he was removed from his church for: Stealing Money and Cheating. Busted on video, audio, and pictures and they had to get a Restraining Order on him to stay away from the church. So what's the difference between Derek and Darryl if they did the same thing.
Ummmmmmmmmm Very Interesting I see the saints can really cover when they have 2. That is my 1st time hearing that story?????????? and I
been in COGIC all my life. Wow Just Wow!!!! busted on video audio
and pictures. I know Bishop was having promblems with one of his sons
but didn't know 2 what degree. Was just told he wanted 2 do his own thing and drugs here and there. restraining order?. There is no difference between Derek and Darryl just didn't know about the later deeds.....They both belong in jail..........
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HoneyIBelieveU wrote:
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Believe me I am not taking up for Maria Gardner. Somebody told me last year about the story u told in ur post. I was shocked and stunned never knew it. But I will say on Terri behalf b/c I grew up
with her years ago when we went to the same church thats how I know
Maria she was friends with my pastor who she backstabbed (read my
earlier post on this forum) her mother was very very dominnering
when we was kids. She would even pick who Terri friends was. She said Terri never bucked her just did what she said. Terri saw her father also a deacon @ our church abuse her mother. So she is just a product of her envirmoment. I must say I was stunn she did the couple like that I felt she had issues but I yet respected her 2
a degree but that was low down and dirty and u do reap what u sow.
her oldest son Darrin (who's now dead) would bump head all day
long b/c he would stand up 2 her. They got along like oil and water
Maria was a tuff mother 2 have she would tell stories about how
she would grab a water hose 2 whop her sons. Terri is just turning her head like she saw her mom did when her Dad was abusing her mom.
I would see and hear Maria get up in church and say it was nobody business what he was doing 2 her he was still her husband and she was still going 2 wash clean and cook for him????? So she doing
what she saw her mother do..........Yea she silly!!! But so was her mom towards her dad and he had affairs 2.
To my understanding Derek had many affairs with women in the church. What I don't get is Terrie knew what kind of man she married, so why would she try to make it seem like these women came on to him. I also heard that Maria paid Derek to marry her unattractive daughter and that he was on her payroll. He came from Detroit to Cali doing the same thing. What a mess!
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HoneyIBelieveU wrote:
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Ummmmmmmmmm Very Interesting I see the saints can really cover when they have 2. That is my 1st time hearing that story?????????? and I
been in COGIC all my life. Wow Just Wow!!!! busted on video audio
and pictures. I know Bishop was having promblems with one of his sons
but didn't know 2 what degree. Was just told he wanted 2 do his own thing and drugs here and there. restraining order?. There is no difference between Derek and Darryl just didn't know about the later deeds.....They both belong in jail..........
I agree!! You know that Bishop is going to keep his dirty secrets safe and expose everyone else's. Matter of fact get his other pastors on the board to do his dirty work. I heard that bishop is a fruit cake!
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It was public news that Derek was having a fling with one of his members. I knew something was strange when this girl would be half naked and he would call her down for prayer every Sunday I guess he was trying to prove to his wife that nothing was going on. There was even pictures floating around with him in his underwear in the hotel that she suppose to have taken of him. I also heard that Derek was whipping Terri behind so maybe thats why she accepted what he dished out and another thing sometimes women accept whatever these men dish out in order to have a man. I'd rather be alone then with a nut case. Yeah I heard all of that about her mother. Derek's said one Sunday in the pulpit that his ex wife was Gay but when she showed up at the church I saw no signs of it.
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Sad News wrote:
It was public news that Derek was having a fling with one of his members. I knew something was strange when this girl would be half naked and he would call her down for prayer every Sunday I guess he was trying to prove to his wife that nothing was going on. There was even pictures floating around with him in his underwear in the hotel that she suppose to have taken of him. I also heard that Derek was whipping Terri behind so maybe thats why she accepted what he dished out and another thing sometimes women accept whatever these men dish out in order to have man. I'd rather be alone then with a nut case. Yeah I heard all
f that about her mother. Derek's said one Sunday in the pulpit that his ex wife was Gay but when she showed up at the church I saw no signs of it.
Maybe he is whipping that butt! Her mother thought it was normal. Looks can be deceiving the ex wife is married to a woman. Derek probably cheated on her so much that it forced her into a lesbian life. Oh did you hear that his lover confronted him at Liberty in his office, and Terrie was apologizing to the other woman and trying to justify why he came home early from Vegas. Was that stupid or what! What woman in her right mind is going to apologize to the other woman. All I can say is that she get it from her momma. He's the man of that household that might be why she stay's because she doesn't know how to hold her own. I saw that picture on myspace.
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Maybe he is whipping that butt! Her mother thought it was normal. Looks can be deceiving the ex wife is married to a woman. Derek probably cheated on her so much that it forced her into a lesbian life. Oh did you hear that his lover confronted him at Liberty in his office, and Terrie was apologizing to the other woman and trying to justify why he came home early from Vegas. Was that stupid or what! What woman in her right mind is going to apologize to the other woman. All I can say is that she get it from her momma. He's the man of that household that might be why she stay's because she doesn't know how to hold her own. I saw that picture on myspace.
I heard that about about his lover that was crazy because that woman had to be crazy to really do that cause Terrie could snapped on her because I would have. Terrie always did say that the other woman looked better than her so maybe something else was really going on. Please he had his ice creams, cake, cookies and whatever else he wanted. I knew he was no dealing with a full deck both of them.

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This story gets sadder and sadder almost sounds like
a soap opera !!!!!!(((Just))(((Sad))).
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This is truly a sad story. I didn't know that there was a court hearing about this mess in 2006. So is anybody going to be charged with taking money from the church? So Derek has been put out of COGIG. And he is in another denomination now. I was in California last summer 2009 and was going to try to visit his church.I know the Lord kept me away. I think someone told me his mom passed away. If its true she probably would not be able to handle all this. He finally hooked up with people(Terrie and her Mom)so that he would always have money coming in. Maybe I'm wrong because I don't know what part, if any his wife had in this mess, but I feel soory for her. I'm sure she didn't know all this would happen. He probably doesn't think he did anything wrong. I can't understand why Bishop Blake did not press charges. It seems like Derek had permission to do what he did. Something is missing in the story that only certain people know. Derek is pastoring another church. Was he buying things for himself with the loans he took out on the church buildings? I just believe somebody in a high COGIC position had to be in on it too. He used to have a radio show here and he would be screaming at the top of his lungs and asking (begging) people to send 20 dollars in and God would bless them. This was in the days when he was moving from building to building every 3 or 5 months. He probably wasn't paying his rent. He finally came up with the perfect (as he thought) money scam.Sadly, he really took the money from God.
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Alicia,
Yes this is a sad thing to cheat the church no God. I did not know that his mother died I met her at Liberty when she would come to see her grandson. I heard that Bishop Blake is pressing charges but I don't know how true it is just here say. He was always begging for money in the pulpit. He would always have the tithe payers stand in line first and pray for them. I believe that was his way to see who was paying money. He would say if you did not pay your tithes you would not hold office well I did not go to church to hold an office I went to praise God. We he started going off about money my radar went up and I stopped paying my tithes because I did not trust him. I see that I was right. He would brag about the cheap taylor made suits he would wear and I was like you look like a pimp. His wife would tell the ladies you can look good like me. I was like I don't want to look like you in those two little clothes you wear. She said if they did not have our size in the knits she would wear take them to the cleaners and have them blocked to fit. What does that tell you something was really wrong. I don't know if she was in on the devilment he was doing because I always like her but who knows she stayed with him.

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