OBSI seizes "illegal" Shelby Mustangs

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Shelby Mustangs, they're the car many teenagers used to dream of and many cars lovers still do.
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bozo

Edmond, OK

#62 Jul 10, 2010
gary will be out of a job and i hate oklahoma more the reason oklahoma doesnt deserve our talents .. jason like i said all along you need to move your business out of oklahoma especially yukon...gary when all of this is over and we prove the osbi and that loser gary that they are wrong ..im gonna make sure they sue those fuckers for what they did to my family ...sparky where are you ?? i promise u will never find a job again !!! this was all started by a jealous disgruntle fired employee .. how convenient ..
bozo

Edmond, OK

#63 Jul 10, 2010
Fact wrote:
Like father like son....if the father sells lousy cars at his car lot on 39th street at T&D Motors, what makes anyone think that the son would be any different, he only learned from the BEST! Even if by some miracle that he gets off with a slap on the wrist for this crime, his reputation in Oklahoma is over, when it comes to cars!
P.S. Their car dealership liscence should revoked and never given one again in the state of OKLAHOMA!
hey FACT!!!!!!!!!! who are you to judge ..im laughing because i forgot these people who are saying negative stuff about people i have known for years is typical for oklahomans .. believe me you sound like a loser by the way you judge people .. how would you feel if i diss your family ?? well sounds like your family is a loser to me ...
bozo

Edmond, OK

#64 Jul 10, 2010
Raul wrote:
They knew exactly what they were doing. The days of driving around in high dollar SUVs, acting rich, and making a living are OVER. No more $200,000.00 fraud vehicles for sale. What a joke.
RAUL... go get a life .. you sound like a loser who is jealous and knows nothing about the owners .. i bet you work 8 hours come home and drink beer all nite ... the owners who has fancy cars work their **** s off to get the fine things life has to offer the owner works 17 hours a day 7 days a week .. so shut your loser yapper !!
bozo

Edmond, OK

#65 Jul 10, 2010
someone wrote:
<quoted text>Tony beam pull your nose out of jasons butt for 5 seconds and stop sticking up for him! he knew what he was doing with the cars just like he knew what he was doing by not paying people over time (7am to 10pm at night with only stright pay), no bonuses that were promised,lying to the costumers, taking and spending the costumers down payment of half on his own personal possesions!!!! come on man you know he is wrong just stop lying to these people on here its not going to help anything. you know damn well that the value of the dynocorn body is much as the orig bodies come on now man your not stupid, so stop brown noseing and just sit back and watch because that little boy is goin down!!! hahahahaha and dont talk crap about a " fired employee that did a lousy job" because everyone did a great job up there and with out ALL of them jasons dream would not have existed! you need to know the facts tony beam you dont know what u are talking about so keep your mouth shut and see what happens to your little buddy.
SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!! i bet your the piece of crap loser that got fired and disgruntled ..... i bet your family is a piece of crap ..... trust me if your the whistleblower i promise you will never find a job in this country ever ...... you can count on that ...
bozo

Edmond, OK

#66 Jul 10, 2010
someone wrote:
<quoted text>Tony beam pull your nose out of jasons butt for 5 seconds and stop sticking up for him! he knew what he was doing with the cars just like he knew what he was doing by not paying people over time (7am to 10pm at night with only stright pay), no bonuses that were promised,lying to the costumers, taking and spending the costumers down payment of half on his own personal possesions!!!! come on man you know he is wrong just stop lying to these people on here its not going to help anything. you know damn well that the value of the dynocorn body is much as the orig bodies come on now man your not stupid, so stop brown noseing and just sit back and watch because that little boy is goin down!!! hahahahaha and dont talk crap about a " fired employee that did a lousy job" because everyone did a great job up there and with out ALL of them jasons dream would not have existed! you need to know the facts tony beam you dont know what u are talking about so keep your mouth shut and see what happens to your little buddy.
hey whislteblower you keep your mouth shut !!!!!!!!!!
someone else

United States

#67 Jul 11, 2010
if you are so interested in truth tony why don't you tell the osbi how many eleanors went thru your shop
Tony

Choctaw, OK

#68 Jul 11, 2010
I'll tell you right here and now! I built 8 of them, all on original classic bodies, dynancorn did not have them available when I built mine. This is so stupid, what does that have to do with anything, is every Eleanor car out there subject to investigation? If they want to check out the ones I built they can spend the taxpayers dollars to travel to Europe and Australia and take a nice vacation. They will come back with nothing, just like they will find here!
dave

Kingfisher, OK

#69 Jul 12, 2010
The company Dynacorn first made the body for reproduction 69 camaro. In the write up it says you can use the vin off your old rusty car or title as a kit car. I think depending on the state you are in. Its up to the owner to clarify thats its original or not.

Car parts get damaged with the vin all the time. They just put on the new part and attach the vin.
Jessi Ann

United States

#70 Jul 13, 2010
Even though the owner claims he didn't know it was wrong to do this, common sense should have told him if a buyer turns around and sells the car as an original Shelby and not a clone he stands to make some serious cash. The owner who sold the clone originally would be setting people up to get scammed, unintentionally but still, exerscise due dilligence here people. Besides dont most shells come with assigned VIN's from the factory? Why is he not using these VIN's instead of swapping VIN's with other cars? This is the biggest question i have for him.
Sparky

Edmond, OK

#71 Jul 13, 2010
Jessi Ann wrote:
dont most shells come with assigned VIN's from the factory? Why is he not using these VIN's instead of swapping VIN's with other cars? This is the biggest question i have for him.
And I think we all know the answer Jessi Ann: Because when someone getting ready to plunk down $250,000 grand for a real classic car wants to verify its authenticity, they look at the VIN. The VIN is formatted to tell you things like the year the car was produced, the manufacturer, the cars number in the production run, etc. They'd have to swap the VIN if they had any chance at all of selling the car as a restored original and not a rebuilt/salvage vehicle. Also, the guys doing this wouldn't be able to get the green colored title for the vehicle, which would tip any buyer off that the car wasn't a restored original.

Really, the swapped VINs (a crime all by itself) isn't their biggest problem. Fraud charges will be their biggest problems. I'm guessing that not everyone who bought these cars bought them in Oklahoma. If these guys in Yukon were engaged in fraud that crosses state lines or uses electronic banking or the postal service, they could be looking at federal charges.

And for anyone who doesn't think this is a serious crime or that its just a case of the cops interfering with a legitimate business - How would you feel if you paid 200K for what you thought was a restored, original, 50 year old classic car and then discovered it was a chinese frame with a switched VIN? You'd be pretty upset, I'm thinking.

I heard someone mention the owners have gone from "We didn't do anything wrong" to "We didn't know it was wrong, how do we get out of trouble?" Is this true? If so, where is the guy saying they'll be vindicated and should sue? How do people in the business of selling restored cars not know how to legally sell restored cars? Come on, man.
Sparky

Montgomery, AL

#72 Jul 13, 2010
bozo wrote:
gary will be out of a job and i hate oklahoma more the reason oklahoma doesnt deserve our talents .. jason like i said all along you need to move your business out of oklahoma especially yukon...gary when all of this is over and we prove the osbi and that loser gary that they are wrong ..im gonna make sure they sue those fuckers for what they did to my family ...sparky where are you ?? i promise u will never find a job again !!! this was all started by a jealous disgruntle fired employee .. how convenient ..
You wont do shit but run your big mouth. You ever threaten me agian I am going to make sure I tie your sorry asssss up in court and sue you for everthing you have.
Sparky - The real Sparky

Edmond, OK

#73 Jul 13, 2010
Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>You wont do **** but run your big mouth. You ever threaten me agian I am going to make sure I tie your sorry asssss up in court and sue you for everthing you have.
Yeah, this one wasn't posted by me. I posted the reply to Jerri above. Think this one must be Tony or Bozo or someone.
TexasFLS

Center, TX

#74 Jul 13, 2010
Jeff T wrote:
Everyone knows a cobra is a american piece of crap anyway... yawn
yawn, yea, I know it's boring driving your Accord!
ppl

Oklahoma City, OK

#75 Jul 13, 2010
i got word today that everything that was going on at CR was legit and documented, they were not selling "lesser" cars per say, more like shelby clones, and they were putting the old vin on the new body which is legal, you only have to retain 10% of the original car. now that it is all done they can't get the osbi to return their calls to find out how to get the cars back...personally i think osbi is embarrassed....
Stanglover

United States

#76 Jul 13, 2010
This whole deal is Bullshit and OSBI and OHP need to stop fucking up an investigation that never should have been started in the first place. I'm behind Classic Recreations and plan to take my car to them for restoration work as soon as they are able to put all of this behind them. Hang in there J!!!!!!!!!!
Stanglover

United States

#77 Jul 13, 2010
Jason........My previous post says I'm in Ft. Worth, Tx, but you know me. Once all this is over get that paint gun ready with some Highland green for my 68. I'll be talking to you soon.
Stangman

Rochester, MN

#78 Jul 14, 2010
I am going to order a car once this is sorted out, my friend in Australia has a Eleanor off Jason and loves it. Said he was one of the most honest guys he has dealt with.
thelost

Yukon, OK

#79 Jul 26, 2010
Fact wrote:
Like father like son....if the father sells lousy cars at his car lot on 39th street at T&D Motors, what makes anyone think that the son would be any different, he only learned from the BEST! Even if by some miracle that he gets off with a slap on the wrist for this crime, his reputation in Oklahoma is over, when it comes to cars!
P.S. Their car dealership liscence should revoked and never given one again in the state of OKLAHOMA!
These two are affiliated? I got screwed arouind by that car lot as well. That is interesting, you should email me and let me know what happened to you. troyislost@hotmail.com
Sultan

Ireland

#80 Jun 9, 2011
They were setup. Look at this!
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okw...

They wrote a bill and its also passed! This is great for future restorers
http://newlsb.lsb.state.ok.us/BillInfo.aspx...

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