OBSI seizes "illegal" Shelby Mustangs

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Shelby Mustangs, they're the car many teenagers used to dream of and many cars lovers still do.

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Jeff T

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Everyone knows a cobra is a american piece of crap anyway. . . yawn
Anon

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Nice headline. I didn't realize we had an OBSI, I thought it was the OSBI....
Tom

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So what, were they stealing the cars to begin with? I have put many cars together, was that illegal as well? So I gotta a door from Pull-A-Part with a different vin # and I removed it, so!!!! Can our tax dollars be used any better? The dude does good work, who cares!
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They were pulling the vin plate off the cars and putting them on the "new" cars. If you take indiv parts of a car eg. doors, hoods etc etc then that is ok.
erich

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Jul 8, 2010
 
Sorry that was not tom that posted that I did. They need a delete button on this.
david

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Jul 8, 2010
 
there needs to a middle ground.
I restored a car or two and some times you don't always get paper work with them. and anymore the news trends with rat rods are cars that are mostly home made. it makes it extremely difficult to come up with legal papers and documents.
restoring cars is a postive things for youth as well so we as a state should embrace it.
on the other hand we have to watch out for the dishonest people too.
but if you have a legitement business then you should not be finding loop holes and do it correctly.
leave the loop holes for the weekend warriors!!:)
MSUFANINOKC

Oklahoma City, OK

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What IDIOTS....Didn't know it was illegal...get a life dude...
Tony

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I've known the owner of this shop and his family since they started this business. They are extremely professional in the way they conduct their business. I know for a fact they have extremely competent legal council and would not do ANYTHING to compromise their business or their reputation. In fact, they have one of the best reputations in the industry, you don't get that in this business very easily. Seems to me this situation is probably nothing more than a disgruntled employee trying to hurt his former employer, I've seen this too many times. Let's not pass judgement until all the facts are in. And shame on News 9 for even mentioning the term "chop shop" in this situation, it's just another example of the media trying to crucify someone so they can get their story. That terms implies that they are involved in some sort of illegal activity not even associated with the accusations being investigated...lousy journalism, they owe them a public apology in my opinion.
I've been in the restoration business for YEARS and I'll tell you those guys build one hell of a car!! Hands down the BEST quality I've seen on any Eleanor or Shelby. These people really care about what they build. I'm proud to have worked with them on many project and would do again without any hesitation!
Tony

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MSUFANN, unless you have a law degree hanging out of your ass keep your comments to yourself, you know nothing about the facts in the case. Your entitled to you opinion...
chris

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If this all turns out to be true throw the book at the guy. He has disgraced an American Icon in the car world.

Since: May 10

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It's not illegal to make a "clone" but it is illegal to remove a VIN plate for use on another car. If these people have been in the restoration business for any amount of time, they surely would know this.

VIN fraud is rampant in this type of business. For this business to sell these cars for the astronomical amounts being reported, they should have known that sooner or later they would be caught.

These people may "build one hell of a car" but the bottom line is they also committed FRAUD by removing VIN plates from lesser vehicles and placing them on aftermarket bodies. And it's this type of bad, fraudulent behavior that makes it harder for reputable restorers to do legitimate business.
Tony

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I agree, the problem I have is that the industry produces these replacement bodies for mustangs, camaros, novas, 57 chevies, etc. Their intent is sell these to people who need these parts to replace their old rusted bodies and get their classic car back on the road, that's no different than what he is doing, simply replacing the rusty useless body parts with a replacement part. As far as FRAUD is concerned, I know Jason and he has always been very clear on which cars are original and which ones carry the new bodies, besides, anyone who knows anything about a mustang or Shelby can spot a replacement body a mile away. And, if I were going to lay out $150-$200K for one you bet I'd know what I was getting. People with that kind of money did not get it by being stupid!
Raul

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They knew exactly what they were doing. The days of driving around in high dollar SUVs, acting rich, and making a living are OVER. No more $200,000.00 fraud vehicles for sale. What a joke.
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Sounds like another former employee who did a lousy job and got fired to me??
Deborah Wilkins

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Drug dealers on every corner...women being held-up at the malls and shopping centers...child and elder abuse in our daycare centers and nursing homes...and THIS is what the OSBI spends it's time (and our taxpayer dollars) on???

Whatever!
Matt

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Anon wrote:
Nice headline. I didn't realize we had an OBSI, I thought it was the OSBI....
So you aware that Oklahoma has an OSBI, or that Oklahoma has an Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations?
Matt

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Please disregard my last, headline is OBSI, not OSBI.
Sparky J

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Deborah,

Drug dealers? Call the local cops or OBNDD
Mall stick-ups? Call the local cops
Elder abuse? Call DHS (Adult Protective Services)
Crappy daycare? Again, local police/DHS

OSBI only has original jurisdiction in areas like auto theft, computer crimes, and oil field theft. Everything else they do can only be initiated at the request of a Chief of police, a county sheriff, a district attorney, or a judge (and only by a judge in certain child abuse matters). OSBI can't take requests directly from the public or work the cases you think they should unless they are requested to assist by local authorities. Their main purpose is to provide resources to police and sheriff departments that need help with investigations they aren't staffed to handle and provide crime lab services to Oklahoma communities that can't afford to run their own labs. That is what their time and your tax dollars get spent on.
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Tony wrote:
Sounds like another former employee who did a lousy job and got fired to me??
Tony beam pull your nose out of jasons butt for 5 seconds and stop sticking up for him! he knew what he was doing with the cars just like he knew what he was doing by not paying people over time (7am to 10pm at night with only stright pay), no bonuses that were promised,lying to the costumers, taking and spending the costumers down payment of half on his own personal possesions!!!! come on man you know he is wrong just stop lying to these people on here its not going to help anything. you know damn well that the value of the dynocorn body is much as the orig bodies come on now man your not stupid, so stop brown noseing and just sit back and watch because that little boy is goin down!!! hahahahaha and dont talk crap about a " fired employee that did a lousy job" because everyone did a great job up there and with out ALL of them jasons dream would not have existed! you need to know the facts tony beam you dont know what u are talking about so keep your mouth shut and see what happens to your little buddy.
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I understand VIN fraud. Stolen cars and chop shop's. However if you have documentation on legit purchases and use another body to restore a car this causes me to scratch my head and wonder. Maybe there should be a way to stamp and extra letter on the VIN too designate it as a reproduction to make it legal. However I'm sure the courts will work this out considering this guy wasn't blantenly out to screw anyone.

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