False Teacher Kenneth Copeland
Bishop William Caractor

Woodside, NY

#21 Mar 15, 2008
1:3 Blessed here means “worthy of praise.” When God blesses man, He confers benefits upon him; when man blesses God, as Paul does here, he attributes praise to Him. Who hath blessed us (or,“because He has blessed us”): The apostle, then praises God because he has bestowed all spiritual blessings on His people. When did He do this? Probably in eternity past (cf.vv 4.5). Where are these blessings located? In heavenly places, that is, in heaven. As the Christian’s citizenship (Phil. 3:20), high priest (Heb. 4:14), hope (Col. 1:5), and inheritance (1 Pet. 1:4) are all “in heaven” as his treasure (Matt. 6:20, 21) and affection (Col. 3:1,2) we are to be “in heaven,: so also the Christian’s blessings are “in heaven.” These spiritual benefits were granted to believer and are retained in heaven for him, being progressively dispersed to him on earth in accord with his need and Christian growth, In Christ, or,“by Christ,: that is, the Father has conferred these blessings on the church, but He did not act alone; He hath blessed us in Christ. This verse, therefore, makes five points:(1) What has God one? He has blessed us.(2) With what? With every spiritual blessing.(3) When? In eternity past.(4) Where are these blessings? In heaven.(5) How did God do this? By Christ.
1:4 The connecting thought linking verses 3 and 4 is this: Just as (According as) God has blessed believers with every spiritual blessing “in Christ”(v. 3), so in like manner it was in [or by] him that he hath chosen us. God never intended to bless man apart from Christ. All God does for man He does through his Son. Beginning here and continuing through verse 14, Paul begins to elaborate on the very general “God…hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings”(v.3). He specifically identifies nine of these spiritual blessings. God has (1) chosen believers (v.4),(2) adopted them into His family (v. 5),(3) bestowed His grace on them (v.6),(4) redeemed them (v. 7),(5) given them wisdom and insight into His future plan (vv. 8,9) believers (6) will share in universal reconciliation (v. 10),(7) have been made God’s treasure (v.11),(8) have been granted the Holy Spirit (v. 13), and (9) are assured of salvation (v. 14).“He hath chosen us” in selecting believers for salvation; God has graciously shaped their lives and destinies in accord with His will and to their advantage Before him means in His sight. Christians should be, in God’s opinion, holy and without blame.

More next time..

Yours in Jesus Christ,

Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry, Incorporated
Bishop William Caractor

Woodside, NY

#22 Mar 15, 2008
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

I greet you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is my sincere Prayer that you are being Blessed even as you read this email.

I am writing to you today regarding the article that is in every newspaper, radio program, and television. The alleged adulterous affair by our Governor Eliot Spitzer. It is the duty of every American to see, to hear, and to report the precise events as they occur in our world today. Governor Spitzer, a man that's associated with the finer things in life. Having a beautiful childhood, no lack of funds, going to prominent college institutions, having received his juris prudence, and practicing with one of the most prestigious law firms in this country. Yet, he was not satisfied.

We, the average citizens, have to fight every step to gain a decent education, to being our children up in the admonition of the Lord, and to get coverage of those things that mean so much to us as citizens of this country. Isn't that strange?

The rich and famous can step out of their door and be assaulted by every news network, every news reporter, and cameramen, about something degrading, immoral, and ungodly. Isn't that strange?

A woman who is a call-girl has gotten the world's attention by turning her bottom up to someone in prominence. Sex should be an every-day affair for those who are under the covenant of marriage. But yet, this young lady will be receiving millions of dollars in book endorsements because she had a sexual affair with someone else's husband. Isn't that strange?

John Q. Citizen cannot get coverage on things like homelessness, discrimination, the economy, abortion, civil rights, justice in the courts, veteran affairs, racism, and to promote our God, the God of Abraham, the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob, when we mention anything about God, your cameras turn off, your notebooks close, and your radio stations shut down and you have the nerve to tell us these things are not news-worthy. Neither is that garbage you are printing!! And you call yourselves editors. Isn't that strange?

Well ladies and gentlemen, some of you have asked your name from my mailing list, what if God removed your name off of His list for eternal life?

Ladies and gentlemen, I am a consecrated Bishop, having an associates degree in Mortuary Science, a Masters in sociology, a Masters in divinity, and a doctorate in divinity. These degrees came from Ivy-league schools. I have paid my dues, by fighting for this country in a war that saw many veterans that came home, disrespected, disassociated, confused, confounded, and unloved by this country (Vietnam).

This country the hostages that was taken in Iran a ticker-tape parade down the streets of New York City and will not give me a free bus ride to the Veterans Hospital. Isn't that strange?

I hope you editors can live with your conscience for being partial with today's news events.

Yours in Jesus Christ,

Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry Incorporated
Oh Really

Dundee, NY

#23 Mar 15, 2008
forgiving husband wrote:
anon
Notice
Discovered Being Ministry, Incorporated says a lot .
Bishop William B. Caractor are you defending ones like brther Copeland and brother Gothard????
Or do you just see a chance to promote your self???
I was wondering the same thing myself, and why he doesn't just start his own thread. Very stange.
Oh Really

Dundee, NY

#24 Mar 15, 2008
<typo> STRANGE
forgiving husband

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#25 Mar 15, 2008
He has his own site.
http://bishopwilliambcaractor.vox.com/explore...

Why he responded to this one on Copeland ?

<typo> STRANGE don't worry about it do it my self alot.
Oh Really

Dundee, NY

#26 Mar 15, 2008
forgiving husband wrote:
He has his own site.
http://bishopwilliambcaractor.vox.com/explore...
Why he responded to this one on Copeland ?
<typo> STRANGE don't worry about it do it my self alot.
Well, all I wanted to add to this thread was the content of the following link concerning McCain having Rod Parsley for a "spiritual guide". If he is depending on this money hungry false prophet for a spiritual guide, he's going to doom this country if he were to be elected. Parsley's just as bad as Copeland. In fact, the way it looks from the selection of candidates we have to choose from, the presidency is going down the tube this year anyway.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/u...
forgiving husband

Roy, WA

#27 Mar 16, 2008
Interesting how they are saying investigation on brother Copeland taking down the wall of separation of church and state when its they who are putting the churches in the middle of government t. with out the approval of their flock. trying to change history as why it was put in the first place not to protect church from government but government from the church.
forgiving husband

Roy, WA

#28 Mar 16, 2008
John Q. Citizen cannot get coverage on things like homelessness,

With the amount of money brother Copland & brother Gothard take in from their non profit org. They could have set up a 12 shelters and programs not only to aid them but to get back on their feet.
Oh Really

AOL

#29 Mar 16, 2008
There are many things wrong with churches this size,(mega churches). For one thing, if people would read the bible for themselves, they might find out the truth, just like Martin Luther did, and stop believing the lies of their falsely installed PAID "paster".

There is no where in the New Testament that a local pastor is supposed to be a paid position.

Another thing, most people don't know that to start a church, they don't have to "become" tax exempt. Under the law, they are already tax exempt. But by incorporating under the 501c3 ruling, they become subject to the government.

However, you are correct in saying that the millions that are lining the pockets of these fake apostles should be going to meet the needs of the poor of the community. Christ never intended his Word to be perverted into a get rich scheme for unscrupulous charlatans.

"The "church" (ecclesia, meaning "assembly" or "called-out ones") as defined by scripture is called out of both the world's political and religious systems. By incorporating, Christian leaders turn their backs on Jesus' headship of His Bride, and wander right back into the religious system of the world. Is "adultery" or "harlotry" too strong a term to describe the church that does this? Probably not.

While of course not intending anything wrong, most churches today usually apply for 501c3 due to ignorance (or, "lack of knowledge" - Hosea 4:6). "They think they have to," or a lawyer recommended that they do so, but most lawyers simply don't understand that churches are (or that anything could be) outside the scope of the law. Most also think they need to become 501c3 in order to be "tax exempt" (love of money), but in fact (!) churches in the United States of America are already tax-exempt, and donations to churches are tax-deductible already, without ever becoming a 501c3!"

http://www.theantichurch.org/501c3churchinfo....
Bishop William Caractor

Brooklyn, NY

#30 Mar 16, 2008
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

I greet you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is my sincere prayer that you are being Blessed even as you read this e-mail.

Today we continue with the in depth study of the Epistle of Paul to the Ephesians.
1:4,5. The last two words of verse 4 (in love) may well belong to verse 5; the link between verb forms in these two verses is expressed in this rendering:“He chose us… in that He lovingly predestined us.“ so the divine choice of verse 4 is further defined by the divine predestination of verse 5. Predestinated means “marked out in advance,”“determined or appointed beforehand.” Prior to creation God appointed those who would believe unto [or, for] the adoption of children; that is, He appointed them to be His sons. This divine appointment was according to [because of] the good pleasure of his will; it was due not to anything good in ourselves, but due solely to His kindness. These verses stress the divine sovereignty and salvation. Verses 12 and 13 which mention our trust and belief in Christ, emphasizes the human responsibility in the process.
1:6 The reason God predestined us to be his sons (verse 5) is expressed in the words to the praise of the glory of his grace, that is, in order to magnify the splendor of his goodness to us. Wherein he has made us excepted in the beloved made also read,“which [grace] he has bestowed on us by the beloved” Through Christ, we are the recipients of God’s unmerited favor.
1:7 Redemption referred to the release of the slave or captive upon receipt of ransom. But the following words, the forgiveness of sins, show “redemption” is used here in a moral sense. Christians are therefore released from there enslavement to sin and the resulting divine wrath. Redemption is effected for us through his blood, that is, by Christ’s atonement secured by his death on the cross.
1:8 This verse could be rendered, he lavished upon us this grace which consist in all sorts of wisdom and prudence (or, insight). The word wisdom refers to a knowledge of the true nature of things; prudence has to do with the practical application of this wisdom leading to the right course of action. But the specific “wisdom and prudence” Paul has in view here concerns a future aspect of God’s will as delineate4d in verses 9, 10.
1:9 This verse more precisely identifies that “wisdom and prudence”(verse 8) God lavished upon us. This “wisdom and prudence” have to do with God’s making known unto us the mystery of his will.“Mystery” here refers to a divine truth that is incapable of being discovered by human ingenuity and that, until recently, has been kept secret. Why did God disclose this mystery to us? It was according to [because of] his good pleasure which he hat purposed [planned] in himself.
1:10. This verse refers back to God’s “good pleasure”(v/ 9)/ Verse 10 is made more plain by the paraphrase,“for the purpose of executing it [i.e., God’s good pleasure] in the fullness of times, and His good pleasure is to head up all things in Christ, things in heaven, and things on earth.” In the near future, when the time is ripe, God will put His good purpose into effect and carry it out. And His “good pleasure” or intention is the restoration of original universal unity, when all things are brought back into harmony with Himself and under the headship of Christ.

More next time..

Yours in Jesus Christ,

Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry, Incorporated
Oh Really

AOL

#31 Mar 16, 2008
forgiving husband wrote:
He has his own site.
http://bishopwilliambcaractor.vox.com/explore...
Why he responded to this one on Copeland ?
<typo> STRANGE don't worry about it do it my self alot.
Here we go again. I'm starting to find his "informative" postings annoying, disruptive to the flow of the thread, off topic and should be reported to the Topix admins.

Maybe he works for one of these televangelists, lol
Jeremy

Texarkana, AR

#32 Mar 17, 2008
Dear Bishop ...

According to your post's signature, I would have to say you fall into the same category as Copeland and the others. You are concerned about yourself and how you appear to other believers, or layman where you are concerned. Why would we be layman? Because you exalt yourself to a position and let us all know about it with your signature.

Reality is you are typing and promoting Christ, which is good, however, start your own post. this one had to do with the falsehoods of Kenneth Copeland.

This was not an opp for you to jump in with "study notes" for other topics. There is a link labeled 'new post' for that sort of thing.

BTW, it is not good to take scripture out of context. We are to not judge the heathen for they are already judged, however, we are to test (judge) the spirits to make sure they are of the Lord. And quite frankly, Kenneth Copeland's spirit is not of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Father. More information about Copeland is available from here - http://www.forgenerations.net/falsemessiahs/
FalseTeachers/copeland.html.

The link in the beginning of the post is dead now about Copeland, I had an issue with my server, and have relocated it to the above link. Thanks everyone and may Jesus open your eyes to the truth we are to be living.

Since: Mar 08

Auburndale, Florida

#33 Mar 17, 2008
Bishop William Caractor...

No offense, but you are not truly saying anything, you are just parroting the bible. Using your education, have an actual opinion.. You do have an actual opinion, don't you?

God Bless!
Shannon

AOL

#34 Mar 18, 2008
Jeremy wrote:
Dear Bishop ...
According to your post's signature, I would have to say you fall into the same category as Copeland and the others. You are concerned about yourself and how you appear to other believers, or layman where you are concerned. Why would we be layman? Because you exalt yourself to a position and let us all know about it with your signature.
Reality is you are typing and promoting Christ, which is good, however, start your own post. this one had to do with the falsehoods of Kenneth Copeland.
This was not an opp for you to jump in with "study notes" for other topics. There is a link labeled 'new post' for that sort of thing.
BTW, it is not good to take scripture out of context. We are to not judge the heathen for they are already judged, however, we are to test (judge) the spirits to make sure they are of the Lord. And quite frankly, Kenneth Copeland's spirit is not of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Father. More information about Copeland is available from here - http://www.forgenerations.net/falsemessiahs/
FalseTeachers/copeland.html.
The link in the beginning of the post is dead now about Copeland, I had an issue with my server, and have relocated it to the above link. Thanks everyone and may Jesus open your eyes to the truth we are to be living.
Jeremy, I see that you, unlike most American Christians, know the definition of the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, and apparently have come out from under that yoke. Wonderful.

Multitudes of Christians are beginning to recognize the serious errors of man made traditions and are coming out of the organized apostate institutional church system, and are following the Lamb wherever he leads. Some of us are fellowshipping together now on PalTalk in these weekly live broadcasts, and it has been a blessing to pray and give live praise reports as well as listen to live spirit led teaching . Perhaps you may pray about sitting in sometime?

http://apostasywatch.com/

God bless
Shannon

AOL

#35 Mar 18, 2008
Also, Jeremy, I wish to say that I've been reading from the link you posted, and viewing some of the videos, although I've just skimmed the surface there seems to be a lot of good and truthful spiritual content. Thanks
Bishop William Caractor

Long Island City, NY

#36 Mar 19, 2008
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

I greet you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is my sincere Prayer that you are being Blessed even as you are reading this email.

Today, we continue the in depth study of Paul's Epistle to the Ephesians.

1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance may be read, " by whom we were also made an inheritance." That is, believers are God's treasure. Why would Paul regard this as a blessing? As God's treasure Christians are the apple of His eye, the special objects of His love. He is then determined to care and provide for His people who are His heritage.
1:12 The purpose of being made God's "inheritance" and having been "predestinated" (v. 11) is that we should be to the praise of his glory, that is, that we should glorify God. Who first trusted in Christ refers to Jewish believers. See the note on verse 13--"ye."
1:13 In whom ye also (or, "by whom also you"): The first person plural (we, us) in verses 3-12 refers to Jewish Christians. The second person plural (you) refers to the Gentile Christians. This seems evident from 2:11,12 where the second person is explicitly applied to non-Jews: "Ye being in time past Gentiles...ye were...aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." Compare 3:1 where Paul calls his readers "you Gentiles." The apostle's point in this "we-you" distinction is that all those spiritual blessings God has bestowed upon "us" Jewish Christians, He has also granted "you" Gentile brethren. There is no difference. In whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise may be read "By whom also, when you believed, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit." The Christian receives the Spirit, not "after," but when he believes in Christ as Savior. The sealer is Jesus; the seal is the Holy Spirit. In biblical times a seal denoted both identification of ownership and protection provided by the owner.
1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance means "who is the guarantee of our salvation." The Holy Spirit is here called "the earnest of our inheritance." The word earnest means "down payment"; as such the gift of the Spirit is viewed as an installment or as part of our salvation. God therefore assures the Christian that the realization of the rest of his salvation is forthcoming. How long is the believer assured of his salvation? Until the redemption of the purchased possession may be read, "until God glorifies and perfects the believer [the purchased possession] whom He has bought by Christ's blood."

More next time.

Yours in Jesus Christ,

Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry Incorporated
Oh Really

AOL

#37 Mar 19, 2008
Bishop William Caractor wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Sir:
I am not defending anyone, my obligation and commitment is to God Almighty, but the Word of God says "Let the tears and the wheat grow together, and at the harvest time, I (God) will do the separating."
Also, my friend, God said "Judge ye not, lest ye be judged, and what you measure out will be measured unto you.
I did not call Reverend Dr. Copeland and I will not engage in a conversation concerning him. I am working out my soul salvation and I hope you are doing the same.
Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry Incorporated
The "field" where the tares grow are in the world, not the church

......although sometimes you can hardly tell the difference.
Oh Really

AOL

#38 Mar 19, 2008
BTW, Copeland is not reverend. We are not to address people by such exalted titles.
forgiving husband

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#39 Mar 20, 2008
Bishop William Caractor wrote:
<quoted text>
did not call Reverend Dr. Copeland and I will not engage in a conversation concerning him. I am working out my soul salvation and I hope you are doing the same.
Bishop William B. Caractor
Presiding Prelate
Discovered Being Ministry Incorporated .

My reply; If you will not engage in a conversation concerning him. Then why are you posting her?
forgiving husband

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#40 Mar 20, 2008
Correction : ( here ) sorry guys will get the hang of this typing thing yet. Maybe

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