OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39647 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Because we're talking guns and you throw in abortions and your other favorite topic:
"How many people die from meth? Should an allergy person rights to take Claritin D be made to not have access to the medicine? There people that abuse most anything out there. But the rights of those that don't should not be taken away."
Your having to go to the pharmacist to get your allergy meds.
You could have tried to go for a trifecta to obscure the topic of guns and child injury and death.
I guess with you the death of children and guns and their right to live is no different than an unborn childs right to live. In both cases the children are being killed by the irresponsible action of adults! You can buy Claritin D over the counter but guess what you show ID and you are being checked out and you cannot more at any one time then what the government allows. But knowing you, you would start yelling to have those meds pulled completely.
MistyGirl

United States

#39648 May 10, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
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First I have heard it but it is true from all accounts I have researched. While we would always want everyone to be sworn in, it is not an absolute must in order to prosecute her for lying to the Senate or Congress so they will still go after her for lying in the end just the same as if she did take the oath. Here is the law concerning this issue:
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > 1001
1001. Statements or entries generally
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully-
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to-
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.
I think everyone regardless if they are a political appointee over a department as Hillary was or an employee of a particular branch of government, should be required to be sworn in so the full effect of any laws broken would apply.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39649 May 10, 2013
Justi Just explain what exactly are the gun laws you are talking about that would prevent the death of these kids you keep acting concerned about!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39650 May 10, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
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Regardless, I have a problem with waiving the swearing in process. We shouldn't require State Department employees to have higher standards and ethics than we do to the political appointees heading the entire department. Ridiculous double standard.
There is another matter I noticed justaminute had stated as factually correct, regarding several subjects I would like to address.
1. Regarding abortion clinics and Dr. Kermit Gosnell barely covered trial. Since the horror of Dr. Gosnell's trial more abortion clinic have been closed due to appalling practices and illegal activities. Let me name a few states that have closed clinics due to this disclosure. Ohio, Virginia, Mississippi, Delaware(2), Michigan, Pennsylvania, Kansas, just to name a few. No one is suggesting banning abortion, and for justaminute to suggest than is what people who have mention Dr. Gosnell want to happen is patently false. Abortions should never be birth control, there is too many ways to prevent pregnancies for abortion to be use as a convenience for those who engage in irresponsible sex.
2. The NRA supports safety with use of firearms. To suggest otherwise is patently false.
3. Finally justaminute said Darrell Issa denied Pickering's request to testify in the latest Benghazi Hearing, with the suggestion somehow it was unfair to Hillary, State Department and White House not to allow him to testify. This again is ridiculous. Pickering was hand selected to be a ARB member. Pickering has already said whatever he felt was pertinent about Benghazi and therefore there is no credible reason to have Pickering take up more hearing time rehashing the ARB Report.
One more issue I have is the little known fact that the Accountability Review Board has a total of 5 members when it is convened. 4 of the 5 members are hand picked to sit on this board, do you know who picked 4 of the 5 members on the ARB? Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State during the Benghazi attacks. No wonder the Inspector General is reviewing the ARB Report for accuracy.
Those states that closed those clinics had nothing to do with operating conditions like Gosnell, Misty.

They made stupid requirements to change their building codes, like hallways and other changes to force the practice to meet code or close. Practices like Gosnell, that would be all over the Repub news...nice try.

In fact, the practices forced out because of draconian code requirements were on TV the other day and they didn't have anything to do with the actual service....at all. Plus the court has stepped in a forced the state to back off.

This latest Issa witch hunt was about the ARB Misty...but we shouldn't have the co-Chairman that was responsible for the ARB there?...Give me a break...

And you want to slander the other people that were in the ARB committee too... LOL



It's like the other Repub hearings...on birth control and insurance coverage...no women allowed to testify...and when Dems call them they get slandered like Sandra Fluke...

No agenda here....no siree...
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39651 May 10, 2013
Misty

You know for someone that said that they were for Hillary in the past and that they were independant, your sure are aiming for Hillary and being very partisan...lol
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39652 May 10, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Justi Just explain what exactly are the gun laws you are talking about that would prevent the death of these kids you keep acting concerned about!
Well, if gun owners are held up to rules and regulation and lost their ability to own a gun, they might not be so careless with them.

But we know that will never happen. There will be no laws. Kids will just keep shooting kids and gun owners will keep talking about those 'accidents.' But if you 'accidently' get pregnant, there are NO accidents.....lol

Republicans....regulations for owning a vagina: Absolutely

Regulations for owning a gun: Over my cold dead body...or over tmy kids cold dead body....which is never
MistyGirl

United States

#39653 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Those states that closed those clinics had nothing to do with operating conditions like Gosnell, Misty.
They made stupid requirements to change their building codes, like hallways and other changes to force the practice to meet code or close. Practices like Gosnell, that would be all over the Repub news...nice try.
In fact, the practices forced out because of draconian code requirements were on TV the other day and they didn't have anything to do with the actual service....at all. Plus the court has stepped in a forced the state to back off.
This latest Issa witch hunt was about the ARB Misty...but we shouldn't have the co-Chairman that was responsible for the ARB there?...Give me a break...
And you want to slander the other people that were in the ARB committee too... LOL
It's like the other Repub hearings...on birth control and insurance coverage...no women allowed to testify...and when Dems call them they get slandered like Sandra Fluke...
No agenda here....no siree...
I'm done with your misrepresentations and outright lies. Anyone who questions what I put in a post I would ask them to google the information and find out first hand what the truth is. Also check several sources.

Hardly slander if the facts back up the statement. You have very little understanding of law if you don't understand the basics.

I want the truth and you want to cover a political agenda. You and you alone are the one who has a political agenda. Someone posted before that the truth doesn't have a agenda. The truth will effect both democrats and republicans equally.
MistyGirl

United States

#39654 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Misty
You know for someone that said that they were for Hillary in the past and that they were independant, your sure are aiming for Hillary and being very partisan...lol
I'm not a patsy for either party. I want the truth our military and our foreign professionals deserve honesty and integrity.

Instead of the 4 who died in Benghazi replace any one of them with your son or daughter and see if you can find one cell of compassion for the families who have been damaged by this tragedy.

I remember Maureen Dowd (New York Times) claiming that the parents of a child killed in service of their country had the absolute moral authority to know THE TRUTH. I agree they should know the unabridged,unrevised and undeleted TRUTH.
JAG

United States

#39655 May 10, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
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I'm done with your misrepresentations and outright lies. Anyone who questions what I put in a post I would ask them to google the information and find out first hand what the truth is. Also check several sources.
Hardly slander if the facts back up the statement. You have very little understanding of law if you don't understand the basics.
I want the truth and you want to cover a political agenda. You and you alone are the one who has a political agenda. Someone posted before that the truth doesn't have a agenda. The truth will effect both democrats and republicans equally.
Great post.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39656 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if gun owners are held up to rules and regulation and lost their ability to own a gun, they might not be so careless with them.
But we know that will never happen. There will be no laws. Kids will just keep shooting kids and gun owners will keep talking about those 'accidents.' But if you 'accidently' get pregnant, there are NO accidents.....lol
Republicans....regulations for owning a vagina: Absolutely
Regulations for owning a gun: Over my cold dead body...or over tmy kids cold dead body....which is never
You still did not answer the question "What gun laws are you referring to that Demo wanted and Repub. kicked out that would be saving these kids from getting someones gun and shooting another kid?"
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39657 May 10, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
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I'm done with your misrepresentations and outright lies. Anyone who questions what I put in a post I would ask them to google the information and find out first hand what the truth is. Also check several sources.
Hardly slander if the facts back up the statement. You have very little understanding of law if you don't understand the basics.
I want the truth and you want to cover a political agenda. You and you alone are the one who has a political agenda. Someone posted before that the truth doesn't have a agenda. The truth will effect both democrats and republicans equally.
What lie Misty?

And Benghazi, if you were not partisan, you would know that the state department had agreed with the ARB and will abide by it's findings....as much as it's budget will allow...and that's completely up to the House Appropriations Committee which is controlled by Repubs. Military Response to embassy/outposts...also up to the DOD and Hillary not responsible for that.

There is no cover-up here...no matter how many hearings Republicans want...or the millions in taxpayer money it wants to waste.
Susan

United States

#39658 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Those states that closed those clinics had nothing to do with operating conditions like Gosnell, Misty.
They made stupid requirements to change their building codes, like hallways and other changes to force the practice to meet code or close. Practices like Gosnell, that would be all over the Repub news...nice try.
In fact, the practices forced out because of draconian code requirements were on TV the other day and they didn't have anything to do with the actual service....at all. Plus the court has stepped in a forced the state to back off.
This latest Issa witch hunt was about the ARB Misty...but we shouldn't have the co-Chairman that was responsible for the ARB there?...Give me a break...
And you want to slander the other people that were in the ARB committee too... LOL
It's like the other Repub hearings...on birth control and insurance coverage...no women allowed to testify...and when Dems call them they get slandered like Sandra Fluke...
No agenda here....no siree...
Those other clinics had health violations such as improper procedures to maintain sterile conditions, personnel unqualified doing procedures, and other violations. Delaware had 2 clinics that were both shut down at the same time for gross violations. Planned Parenthood had clinics temporary closed due to violations of standards. I don't know where your getting your information but that is the facts.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39659 May 10, 2013
Check for your response later Misty, gotta go...waiting for you to prove that I lied...which you can't. But that won't stop you...
Susan

United States

#39660 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Well, if gun owners are held up to rules and regulation and lost their ability to own a gun, they might not be so careless with them.
But we know that will never happen. There will be no laws. Kids will just keep shooting kids and gun owners will keep talking about those 'accidents.' But if you 'accidently' get pregnant, there are NO accidents.....lol
Republicans....regulations for owning a vagina: Absolutely
Regulations for owning a gun: Over my cold dead body...or over tmy kids cold dead body....which is never
Sooo, now your saying you ACCIDENTLY HAD SEX?

Whatever, are you a blonde?
JAG

United States

#39661 May 10, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a patsy for either party. I want the truth our military and our foreign professionals deserve honesty and integrity.
Instead of the 4 who died in Benghazi replace any one of them with your son or daughter and see if you can find one cell of compassion for the families who have been damaged by this tragedy.
I remember Maureen Dowd (New York Times) claiming that the parents of a child killed in service of their country had the absolute moral authority to know THE TRUTH. I agree they should know the unabridged,unrevised and undeleted TRUTH.
Well done, again a great post. This thread has missed your input.
JAG

United States

#39662 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Check for your response later Misty, gotta go...waiting for you to prove that I lied...which you can't. But that won't stop you...
LMAO, bugging out already? No one has to prove anything except you because everything you say is biased and slanted and revised from the truth instead of revised to include the truth!
MistyGirl

United States

#39663 May 10, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Check for your response later Misty, gotta go...waiting for you to prove that I lied...which you can't. But that won't stop you...
AAAAchoooo! Excuse me I'm allergic to bullshit!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39664 May 10, 2013
Susan wrote:
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Sooo, now your saying you ACCIDENTLY HAD SEX?
Whatever, are you a blonde?
Gee, another low brain user comes out of the word work...

Had an accident with birth control measures....but if you ever had sex and you were a woman with a brain... you would know that it happens..
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39665 May 10, 2013
correction: word work should be wood work. lol

Boy Susan, you must have worked very hard for those words to come up with that post...Oh..the burn...I'm melting...
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39666 May 10, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
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AAAAchoooo! Excuse me I'm allergic to bullshit!
And also to the truth too, apparently. I gotta go, have to go interview 20 cooks by noon...and ask them how they feel about Benghazi too...LOL

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