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#34131
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You read all the articles that went back days and the comments too? Come on. Many of the people who place comments have really good info too. Then you wouldn't be SO sure that this doesn't tie into Benghazi, that's for sure and remember, I'm the ultra Dem here, according to Dusty. LOL
If you had all the info why don't you have a blog? Because you would have to be in DC yourself with a lot of contacts. LOL
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>>>SO sure that this doesn't tie into Benghazi,<<<???

I said just the opposite, that the players in sex scandal do tie into Benghazi and was part of a plot to overthrow Obama re-election.

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#34132
Nov 13, 2012
 
Minute, here's what I said, "What's going to be discovered is that the Petraeus scandal is just part of a bigger ultra-rich Repulican scheme that leads to Benghazi and a plot to overthrow the election of President Obama,"

Then you come along and say I said Petraeus scandal is not related to Benghazi.
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#34133
Nov 13, 2012
 
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Since you read so much; what do you think about Broadwell giving that speech at the Univisersity at Denver and disclosing a CIA black ops site in Libya and were did she get the info from? Especially after the FBI hauled off plenty of stuff late last nite at her home. Especially after they said they were ENDING the investigation.

And all the info on the twins to. Of course you know that Ms. Kelly is her married name and her parents emigrated here with their daughters from Lebanon. And she just so happens to be an Arabic speaker herself. And if she had 20,000 to 30,000 emails from Gen Kelly on her computer, why go to the FBI, and thus expose it all?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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WMCOL

Added to the fact that the General sent that many emails from Afghanistan. The number one complaint of troops in Afghanistan is the lack of bandwidth from there and that all their emails are monitored.

Don't you think that someone would notice the large traffic from the General to a civilian back in the states? Especially the agency that loves to monitor all emails coming from the region into the US?

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Since you read so much; what do you think about Broadwell giving that speech at the Univisersity at Denver and disclosing a CIA black ops site in Libya and were did she get the info from? Especially after the FBI hauled off plenty of stuff late last nite at her home. Especially after they said they were ENDING the investigation.
And all the info on the twins to. Of course you know that Ms. Kelly is her married name and her parents emigrated here with their daughters from Lebanon. And she just so happens to be an Arabic speaker herself. And if she had 20,000 to 30,000 emails from Gen Kelly on her computer, why go to the FBI, and thus expose it all?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Broadwell is a high ranking officer her self who has led missions and worked with highest levels of the military. She has been in inner command circles where such info is available. She has been a Black OPS leader. She has highly sensitive information in files in her head and on her computers.

Yeah Kelly's brother was on TV. His last name gives away his sister. But like I said, it was all a plot to unseat Obama that went wrong. Now Republicans are scrambling to do damage control which could lead the Majority Republican House to Impeach Obama. Of course the Senate will not convict. The GOP is running hard right now for 2016 and they want Democrat scalps and don't care how they have to get them. They didn't hesitate to throw Petraeus under the bus. Their sights are set on Obama.

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#34136
Nov 13, 2012
 
Peter King is all about saying Obama should have known about Petraeus' infidelity and taken action and if he didn't know about it he is lax and irresponsible as a leader.

The Republican position is still, get Obama
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#34137
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It's not that I don't think that it isn't Republican nasty tricks. Loved that pic of Broadwell with Karl Rove. Or Broadwell's ties to a University think tank that specializes in intel ops. And Eric Cantor's part in this. This is not just a big clusterfluck, too many players in this. I loved the face of Diane Fienstein being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC and getting info that she didn't know from Andrea. So much for being on the Senate Intel Committee!

Especially that part of Petraeus going to Benghazi after the attack and making a report and the CIA saying what report?

Plus the sex part could be a shiny thing to drag the press away from asking more important questions. It's not like that hasn't been used before.

This is going to make some good stories for the next year and a bunch of books and tons of conspiracy theories.

Poor President Obama. He's going to have to clean house at the CIA and maybe the FBI. As well as fight to right the USA ship. Plus where is Hillary in all this?

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Added to the fact that the General sent that many emails from Afghanistan. The number one complaint of troops in Afghanistan is the lack of bandwidth from there and that all their emails are monitored.
Don't you think that someone would notice the large traffic from the General to a civilian back in the states? Especially the agency that loves to monitor all emails coming from the region into the US?
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Generals have access the troops don't, and if General Pat is going under the bus, the more emails the better. His mistake was thinking he was too big to fall. Now having fallen on his sword it will be interesting to see what he has to testify to.
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Peter King is all about saying Obama should have known about Petraeus' infidelity and taken action and if he didn't know about it he is lax and irresponsible as a leader.
The Republican position is still, get Obama
He's a joke.

And I can just imagine what Darryl Issa will be up too.

But the best meetings won't be held in public or C-Span.

Oh well, palace intrigue in Congress will keep us busy this winter. That's why I like Emptywheel and people that post to her blog. They sometimes know stuff that only people that work in and around DC know. Plus they don't seem to get reported on by pundits but they sure do read her blog. I know because some of the Pundits said they read her. She sure does have some really good stuff on there when you have puzzlers. She's a bulldog.
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Generals have access the troops don't, and if General Pat is going under the bus, the more emails the better. His mistake was thinking he was too big to fall. Now having fallen on his sword it will be interesting to see what he has to testify to.
More than one General, two now. And don't kid yourself, it will come out that Petraeus and Broadwell were together when he was military. So his honor is damaged unrepairably but will the other General go down without a fight. I don't think so. But we shall see.

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It's not that I don't think that it isn't Republican nasty tricks. Loved that pic of Broadwell with Karl Rove. Or Broadwell's ties to a University think tank that specializes in intel ops. And Eric Cantor's part in this. This is not just a big clusterfluck, too many players in this. I loved the face of Diane Fienstein being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC and getting info that she didn't know from Andrea. So much for being on the Senate Intel Committee!
Especially that part of Petraeus going to Benghazi after the attack and making a report and the CIA saying what report?
Plus the sex part could be a shiny thing to drag the press away from asking more important questions. It's not like that hasn't been used before.
This is going to make some good stories for the next year and a bunch of books and tons of conspiracy theories.
Poor President Obama. He's going to have to clean house at the CIA and maybe the FBI. As well as fight to right the USA ship. Plus where is Hillary in all this?
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Clinton cleaned house. He paid off all his buddies with jobs knowing most of them were not remotely qualified, but they supported and helped him get elected so he owed them. Folks like Joycelyn Elders,and a big list of others who had no business near a federal Executive position.

I see history repeating itself. After Clinton cleaned house and got down to serious business in second term, then came the sex scandal and impeachment by the Republican House. So here we go again, sex and impeachment of President.

Dick thinking is so easy to capitalize on because there is no thinking. Any day of any year it can be used to snare the weak. Add in national security and it's a play.

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He's a joke.
And I can just imagine what Darryl Issa will be up too.
But the best meetings won't be held in public or C-Span.
Oh well, palace intrigue in Congress will keep us busy this winter. That's why I like Emptywheel and people that post to her blog. They sometimes know stuff that only people that work in and around DC know. Plus they don't seem to get reported on by pundits but they sure do read her blog. I know because some of the Pundits said they read her. She sure does have some really good stuff on there when you have puzzlers. She's a bulldog.
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When the stories break I always feel better with my analysis, what's logical and reasonable to me based on my data base, and understanding of human nature. I sometimes look at blogs and read pundits after, and only after I've formulated my own independent opinions. Just to see how far they are off.

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More than one General, two now. And don't kid yourself, it will come out that Petraeus and Broadwell were together when he was military. So his honor is damaged unrepairably but will the other General go down without a fight. I don't think so. But we shall see.
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Of course they were together when he was active military. They don't deny it but deny any sexual relationship, and until proved otherwise that will stand. I expect pictures.
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I don't think there is anything to tie the President too. But it just might tarnish a run for President in 2016 by Hillary. Because if Hillary does want to run in 2016, she's going to have to be out there and trying to clean this mess up. So far she isn't. But this could be swept down the ole memory hole but it could come back to bite her. If I was her and had aspirations, I would sure be out there and swinging for my part as Sec. of State, especially as this puts a cloud at the end of her tenure as head.

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Whether it comes out that Petraeus and Broadwell were in a sexual relationship when he was active military will depend on who it hurts. If it hurts Republicans it won't come out but if it hurts Obama it will come out.
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Nov 13, 2012
 
Plus, I want to know more about Gen Allen. He's still in the service, hasn't resigned and his career and retirement are in jeopardy. Plus it's hard to resign with a dark cloud hanging over your head and come back and work to sell defense products back to the gov which all military big wigs do. I don't think he'll go down without a fight. It will be interesting, that's for sure.

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Justaminute wrote:
I don't think there is anything to tie the President too. But it just might tarnish a run for President in 2016 by Hillary. Because if Hillary does want to run in 2016, she's going to have to be out there and trying to clean this mess up. So far she isn't. But this could be swept down the ole memory hole but it could come back to bite her. If I was her and had aspirations, I would sure be out there and swinging for my part as Sec. of State, especially as this puts a cloud at the end of her tenure as head.
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Obama is Commander in Chief and if anyway possible to charge him with being lax and neglectful of duty it will be done.

I don't trust Petraeus, never did, and he could be the one who provides(covertly) the proof against himself in order to further a Republican agenda.

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Plus, I want to know more about Gen Allen. He's still in the service, hasn't resigned and his career and retirement are in jeopardy. Plus it's hard to resign with a dark cloud hanging over your head and come back and work to sell defense products back to the gov which all military big wigs do. I don't think he'll go down without a fight. It will be interesting, that's for sure.
Nothing but corrupt white men eh Minute? OH WAIT!!! A black general just got demoted for corruption. My bad. Probably a white supremacist plot huh?
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#34149
Nov 13, 2012
 
Is " Internet has modified this page to keep from getting......"popping up on anyone elses computer in regards to Topix?
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Nov 13, 2012
 
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Obama is Commander in Chief and if anyway possible to charge him with being lax and neglectful of duty it will be done.
I don't trust Petraeus, never did, and he could be the one who provides(covertly) the proof against himself in order to further a Republican agenda.
When I was reading over at Emptywheel last night,early morning and now.

Some things are coming together.

Their cleaning house especially in the CIA thus Petraeus. Investigating Allen for the NATO commander and the weird things that Broadwell and Kelly have been up to.

And Kelly's ex-brother-in-law was on the Iraq Provisional authority too! When Kelly's sister was in the divorce process there was a hearing on who would have custody of their child and both Petraeus and Allen wrote to the Judge on behalf of the sister. Fricking hilarious. Sister still lost custody and Judge said she's a liar. Maybe they all are!

It way weird and those girls have drawn alot of attention to themselves besides having Benghazi on the front burner.

No wonder Hillary has left the country, I would too.

Seems Hillary talked to Petraeus when Benghazi was going down. Seems that some of the crap happened then. CIA doesn't like Petraeus and they had all the goods on him concerning Broadwell and leading to Kelly leading to Allen.

One fell swoop and their all gone. Hearings. One General Allen may be persuaded to talk. Tie in the Republicans. Maybe NSA because you know their fingerprints and those emails were in their hands.

Start fresh with a new CIA director, New Sec. of State and Defense. A new NATO commander. Clean slate.

House cleaned. Viola.

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