OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34128 Nov 13, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Just read all of stuff on emptywheel. I''m several steps ahead of them and the other pundits, but they will all eventually get there.
You read all the articles that went back days and the comments too? Come on. Many of the people who place comments have really good info too. Then you wouldn't be SO sure that this doesn't tie into Benghazi, that's for sure and remember, I'm the ultra Dem here, according to Dusty. LOL

If you had all the info why don't you have a blog? Because you would have to be in DC yourself with a lot of contacts. LOL

Since: Jul 10

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#34129 Nov 13, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>It was not the doctors but the pharmacies that we order his ostomy supplies from. We found out he had top end stage 3 colon cancer the first of 2004. Up until the last of this year these pharmacies would order his supplies and bill Medicare. Now they have stopped because they say they are loosing money from medicare and it is up to the ostomy person to file medicare but that person looses money because you are paying the top dollar for the supplies. Not a contracted amount set up between supplier and Medicare. Dollars amount have been taken away from medicare because of Obamacare.
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I hear Liberty Medical is good. Are you aware of support groups like http://www.ostomyok.org/okc/
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34130 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
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Tamara, you should have spoken of this sooner. There are plenty of home delivery supplies for ostomy products and they bill medicare too.
Just like my Dad's needs of medical products. They ship to me and I take them to my dad. But in the future you will probably never get 100% pay through Medicare. My dad didn't even before Obamacare.
But the costs of medical was going through the roof way before Obamacare came on the scene and you were going to lose it any way. If you were poor there would be agencies to help you. It all depends on your ability to pay.
Your just going to have to be a more vigorous shopper for his products. And you can do a lot of it online.
Have you checked this place out? And they bill Medicare too.
http://www.dukemedicalsupply.com/...
Yes we have gotten some names of the delivery supplies now.
But was shocked at the change in this last year.
Even when we had private health insurance and now Medicare his ostomy supplies were never paid at 100%. With medicare it paid 80% of the contracted amount and if you have supplement insurance they picked up the 20%. Of course this is after all deductibles have been met.

Thanks for the info!

Since: Jul 10

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#34131 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
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You read all the articles that went back days and the comments too? Come on. Many of the people who place comments have really good info too. Then you wouldn't be SO sure that this doesn't tie into Benghazi, that's for sure and remember, I'm the ultra Dem here, according to Dusty. LOL
If you had all the info why don't you have a blog? Because you would have to be in DC yourself with a lot of contacts. LOL
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>>>SO sure that this doesn't tie into Benghazi,<<<???

I said just the opposite, that the players in sex scandal do tie into Benghazi and was part of a plot to overthrow Obama re-election.

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#34132 Nov 13, 2012
Minute, here's what I said, "What's going to be discovered is that the Petraeus scandal is just part of a bigger ultra-rich Repulican scheme that leads to Benghazi and a plot to overthrow the election of President Obama,"

Then you come along and say I said Petraeus scandal is not related to Benghazi.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34133 Nov 13, 2012
WMCOL

Since you read so much; what do you think about Broadwell giving that speech at the Univisersity at Denver and disclosing a CIA black ops site in Libya and were did she get the info from? Especially after the FBI hauled off plenty of stuff late last nite at her home. Especially after they said they were ENDING the investigation.

And all the info on the twins to. Of course you know that Ms. Kelly is her married name and her parents emigrated here with their daughters from Lebanon. And she just so happens to be an Arabic speaker herself. And if she had 20,000 to 30,000 emails from Gen Kelly on her computer, why go to the FBI, and thus expose it all?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34134 Nov 13, 2012
WMCOL

Added to the fact that the General sent that many emails from Afghanistan. The number one complaint of troops in Afghanistan is the lack of bandwidth from there and that all their emails are monitored.

Don't you think that someone would notice the large traffic from the General to a civilian back in the states? Especially the agency that loves to monitor all emails coming from the region into the US?

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#34135 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
WMCOL
Since you read so much; what do you think about Broadwell giving that speech at the Univisersity at Denver and disclosing a CIA black ops site in Libya and were did she get the info from? Especially after the FBI hauled off plenty of stuff late last nite at her home. Especially after they said they were ENDING the investigation.
And all the info on the twins to. Of course you know that Ms. Kelly is her married name and her parents emigrated here with their daughters from Lebanon. And she just so happens to be an Arabic speaker herself. And if she had 20,000 to 30,000 emails from Gen Kelly on her computer, why go to the FBI, and thus expose it all?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Broadwell is a high ranking officer her self who has led missions and worked with highest levels of the military. She has been in inner command circles where such info is available. She has been a Black OPS leader. She has highly sensitive information in files in her head and on her computers.

Yeah Kelly's brother was on TV. His last name gives away his sister. But like I said, it was all a plot to unseat Obama that went wrong. Now Republicans are scrambling to do damage control which could lead the Majority Republican House to Impeach Obama. Of course the Senate will not convict. The GOP is running hard right now for 2016 and they want Democrat scalps and don't care how they have to get them. They didn't hesitate to throw Petraeus under the bus. Their sights are set on Obama.

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#34136 Nov 13, 2012
Peter King is all about saying Obama should have known about Petraeus' infidelity and taken action and if he didn't know about it he is lax and irresponsible as a leader.

The Republican position is still, get Obama
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34137 Nov 13, 2012
It's not that I don't think that it isn't Republican nasty tricks. Loved that pic of Broadwell with Karl Rove. Or Broadwell's ties to a University think tank that specializes in intel ops. And Eric Cantor's part in this. This is not just a big clusterfluck, too many players in this. I loved the face of Diane Fienstein being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC and getting info that she didn't know from Andrea. So much for being on the Senate Intel Committee!

Especially that part of Petraeus going to Benghazi after the attack and making a report and the CIA saying what report?

Plus the sex part could be a shiny thing to drag the press away from asking more important questions. It's not like that hasn't been used before.

This is going to make some good stories for the next year and a bunch of books and tons of conspiracy theories.

Poor President Obama. He's going to have to clean house at the CIA and maybe the FBI. As well as fight to right the USA ship. Plus where is Hillary in all this?

Since: Jul 10

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#34138 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
WMCOL
Added to the fact that the General sent that many emails from Afghanistan. The number one complaint of troops in Afghanistan is the lack of bandwidth from there and that all their emails are monitored.
Don't you think that someone would notice the large traffic from the General to a civilian back in the states? Especially the agency that loves to monitor all emails coming from the region into the US?
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Generals have access the troops don't, and if General Pat is going under the bus, the more emails the better. His mistake was thinking he was too big to fall. Now having fallen on his sword it will be interesting to see what he has to testify to.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34139 Nov 13, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
Peter King is all about saying Obama should have known about Petraeus' infidelity and taken action and if he didn't know about it he is lax and irresponsible as a leader.
The Republican position is still, get Obama
He's a joke.

And I can just imagine what Darryl Issa will be up too.

But the best meetings won't be held in public or C-Span.

Oh well, palace intrigue in Congress will keep us busy this winter. That's why I like Emptywheel and people that post to her blog. They sometimes know stuff that only people that work in and around DC know. Plus they don't seem to get reported on by pundits but they sure do read her blog. I know because some of the Pundits said they read her. She sure does have some really good stuff on there when you have puzzlers. She's a bulldog.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34140 Nov 13, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Generals have access the troops don't, and if General Pat is going under the bus, the more emails the better. His mistake was thinking he was too big to fall. Now having fallen on his sword it will be interesting to see what he has to testify to.
More than one General, two now. And don't kid yourself, it will come out that Petraeus and Broadwell were together when he was military. So his honor is damaged unrepairably but will the other General go down without a fight. I don't think so. But we shall see.

Since: Jul 10

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#34141 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
It's not that I don't think that it isn't Republican nasty tricks. Loved that pic of Broadwell with Karl Rove. Or Broadwell's ties to a University think tank that specializes in intel ops. And Eric Cantor's part in this. This is not just a big clusterfluck, too many players in this. I loved the face of Diane Fienstein being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC and getting info that she didn't know from Andrea. So much for being on the Senate Intel Committee!
Especially that part of Petraeus going to Benghazi after the attack and making a report and the CIA saying what report?
Plus the sex part could be a shiny thing to drag the press away from asking more important questions. It's not like that hasn't been used before.
This is going to make some good stories for the next year and a bunch of books and tons of conspiracy theories.
Poor President Obama. He's going to have to clean house at the CIA and maybe the FBI. As well as fight to right the USA ship. Plus where is Hillary in all this?
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Clinton cleaned house. He paid off all his buddies with jobs knowing most of them were not remotely qualified, but they supported and helped him get elected so he owed them. Folks like Joycelyn Elders,and a big list of others who had no business near a federal Executive position.

I see history repeating itself. After Clinton cleaned house and got down to serious business in second term, then came the sex scandal and impeachment by the Republican House. So here we go again, sex and impeachment of President.

Dick thinking is so easy to capitalize on because there is no thinking. Any day of any year it can be used to snare the weak. Add in national security and it's a play.

Since: Jul 10

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#34142 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
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He's a joke.
And I can just imagine what Darryl Issa will be up too.
But the best meetings won't be held in public or C-Span.
Oh well, palace intrigue in Congress will keep us busy this winter. That's why I like Emptywheel and people that post to her blog. They sometimes know stuff that only people that work in and around DC know. Plus they don't seem to get reported on by pundits but they sure do read her blog. I know because some of the Pundits said they read her. She sure does have some really good stuff on there when you have puzzlers. She's a bulldog.
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When the stories break I always feel better with my analysis, what's logical and reasonable to me based on my data base, and understanding of human nature. I sometimes look at blogs and read pundits after, and only after I've formulated my own independent opinions. Just to see how far they are off.

Since: Jul 10

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#34143 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
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More than one General, two now. And don't kid yourself, it will come out that Petraeus and Broadwell were together when he was military. So his honor is damaged unrepairably but will the other General go down without a fight. I don't think so. But we shall see.
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Of course they were together when he was active military. They don't deny it but deny any sexual relationship, and until proved otherwise that will stand. I expect pictures.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34144 Nov 13, 2012
I don't think there is anything to tie the President too. But it just might tarnish a run for President in 2016 by Hillary. Because if Hillary does want to run in 2016, she's going to have to be out there and trying to clean this mess up. So far she isn't. But this could be swept down the ole memory hole but it could come back to bite her. If I was her and had aspirations, I would sure be out there and swinging for my part as Sec. of State, especially as this puts a cloud at the end of her tenure as head.

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#34145 Nov 13, 2012
Whether it comes out that Petraeus and Broadwell were in a sexual relationship when he was active military will depend on who it hurts. If it hurts Republicans it won't come out but if it hurts Obama it will come out.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34146 Nov 13, 2012
Plus, I want to know more about Gen Allen. He's still in the service, hasn't resigned and his career and retirement are in jeopardy. Plus it's hard to resign with a dark cloud hanging over your head and come back and work to sell defense products back to the gov which all military big wigs do. I don't think he'll go down without a fight. It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Since: Jul 10

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#34147 Nov 13, 2012
Justaminute wrote:
I don't think there is anything to tie the President too. But it just might tarnish a run for President in 2016 by Hillary. Because if Hillary does want to run in 2016, she's going to have to be out there and trying to clean this mess up. So far she isn't. But this could be swept down the ole memory hole but it could come back to bite her. If I was her and had aspirations, I would sure be out there and swinging for my part as Sec. of State, especially as this puts a cloud at the end of her tenure as head.
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Obama is Commander in Chief and if anyway possible to charge him with being lax and neglectful of duty it will be done.

I don't trust Petraeus, never did, and he could be the one who provides(covertly) the proof against himself in order to further a Republican agenda.

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