What Does The Bible Say

What Does The Bible Say

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Sosthenes

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#1 Oct 1, 2013
*Can one be saved by praying a sinners prayer?

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*Calling on the name of the Lord ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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*You can watch the bible program -

"What Does The Bible Say"

each Sunday 8:00PM

(also Thursday 7-9:00PM) on -

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wgsrdigital



*Johnny Robertson is a gospel preacher in the Virginia area.

You can also watch Johnny R. as he answers phone calls coming into the bible program (WDTBS) at -

biblesaystv (You tube)

There you will find about 200 videos dealing with various bible topics.

Caleb, I hope you read this.- AF -
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#2 Oct 2, 2013
Sosthenes wrote:
*Can one be saved by praying a sinners prayer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =crfeSaMKXHcXX&list=UUvTcB wUeaaTTqkLAZzPq7xw
*Calling on the name of the Lord ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
****
*You can watch the bible program -
"What Does The Bible Say"
each Sunday 8:00PM
(also Thursday 7-9:00PM) on -
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wgsrdigital
*Johnny Robertson is a gospel preacher in the Virginia area.
You can also watch Johnny R. as he answers phone calls coming into the bible program (WDTBS) at -
biblesaystv (You tube)
There you will find about 200 videos dealing with various bible topics.
Caleb, I hope you read this.- AF -
Sosthenes one of those old testament characters.
He's credited with a foreskins recipe. Without him
circumcision wouldn't have caught on.

Kosher to the core.
Liz

Dallas, TX

#3 Oct 3, 2013
Why would I want the opinion of a hillbilly gospel yokel on "what the Bible means"? I can read, I've been a church-goer for 50+ years, Baptist college educated. You can't figure it out for yourself?
The Big Man said the most important commandment was "love your neighbor as yourself."
Why is that so hard?
He didn't say anything about snakes in church, or whether you could have a piano in church, or whether women could sneeze in church. Stupid people have twisted up the message with the devil's help.

Sosthenes

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#4 Oct 3, 2013
Liz wrote:
Why would I want the opinion of a hillbilly gospel yokel on "what the Bible means"? I can read, I've been a church-goer for 50+ years, Baptist college educated. You can't figure it out for yourself?
The Big Man said the most important commandment was "love your neighbor as yourself."
Why is that so hard?
He didn't say anything about snakes in church, or whether you could have a piano in church, or whether women could sneeze in church. Stupid people have twisted up the message with the devil's help.
(Rom. 14:23)- for whatsoever is not OF FAITH is sin.

(Rom. 10:17)- 17 So then faith cometh by hearing... the word of God.

Is the Baptist Church "of faith"?

Can the Baptist Church be found in the word of God?

If not it is SIN according to (Rom. 14:23)(1Cor.4:6).

(1Jn 3:4)- 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

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Lets define love according to the Lord.

(Acts 10:33)- Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God. 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

(Jn 14:15,21 ; 15:10,14)- 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

(1Jn 2:3-6)- 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

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Sosthenes

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#5 Oct 3, 2013
Liz wrote:
Why would I want the opinion of a hillbilly gospel yokel on "what the Bible means"? I can read, I've been a church-goer for 50+ years, Baptist college educated. You can't figure it out for yourself?
The Big Man said the most important commandment was "love your neighbor as yourself."
Why is that so hard?
He didn't say anything about snakes in church, or whether you could have a piano in church, or whether women could sneeze in church. Stupid people have twisted up the message with the devil's help.
*Ever heard of Nadab and Abihu?

(Lev. 10:1,2)- 1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. 2 And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.

All they done was get fire from another location.

They used fire it was just from another location.

The Lord did not command them NOT to get fire from this other location. Yet He burned them to death anyhow. The Lord says what He means and means what He says.

He commanded them what to do and they went beyond what the Lord commanded and they were burned like toast before their family members for disobeying the Lords commands.

(Rom. 15:4)- 4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

(1Cor.10:12)- 11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition,...

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Sosthenes

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#6 Oct 3, 2013
Liz wrote:
Why would I want the opinion of a hillbilly gospel yokel on "what the Bible means"? I can read, I've been a church-goer for 50+ years, Baptist college educated. You can't figure it out for yourself?
The Big Man said the most important commandment was "love your neighbor as yourself."
Why is that so hard?
He didn't say anything about snakes in church, or whether you could have a piano in church, or whether women could sneeze in church. Stupid people have twisted up the message with the devil's help.
(Mark 16:16)

1. Believe + Baptism (in water)= Saved

*or

2. Believe = Saved + Be Baptized (later on)

Which do Baptist teach?

#1 or #2



*Which does (Mark 16:16) clearly teach?

Even a hillbilly gospel yokel can get this right but Baptist seem to have trouble with it.

I wonder why?

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WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#7 Oct 4, 2013
Sosthenes wrote:
<quoted text>
(Mark 16:16)
1. Believe + Baptism (in water)= Saved
*or
2. Believe = Saved + Be Baptized (later on)
Which do Baptist teach?
#1 or #2
*Which does (Mark 16:16) clearly teach?
Even a hillbilly gospel yokel can get this right but Baptist seem to have trouble with it.
I wonder why?
whybaptism.org
gbntv.org
Free DVDs
No asking the public for money.
We're interested in your soul not your money.
With a bullhorn you can really be someone.
Find a nice corner somewhere and spread the word.
Don't forget the sunscreen. God created it to
on the second day.
Liz

Dallas, TX

#8 Oct 4, 2013
Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?
The one the council of Worms approved? Or the one where they threw out the books the Zorastrans include? The King James? The New Word?
All manipulated by men to fit their selfish and hateful agendas.
Nice that you have relegated millions of church goers to Hell because they weren't "baptised" in the correct order that you or Swaggart or some other hair god decrees.
Use your brain for something good.

Sosthenes

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#9 Oct 4, 2013
Liz wrote:
Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?
The one the council of Worms approved? Or the one where they threw out the books the Zorastrans include? The King James? The New Word?
All manipulated by men to fit their selfish and hateful agendas.
Nice that you have relegated millions of church goers to Hell because they weren't "baptised" in the correct order that you or Swaggart or some other hair god decrees.
Use your brain for something good.


*Liz - "Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?"

Me - I use the KJV myself.

*Liz - "Nice that you have relegated millions of church goers to Hell because they weren't "baptised" in the correct order"

Me - I just posted The position of the NT and the Baptist.

1. New Testament (GOD)

2. The Baptist (a denomination of men)

(Eph. 3:3,4)(Eph.5:17)(Jn 7:17)

whybaptism.org

thegospelofchrist.com

Sosthenes

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#10 Oct 4, 2013
The word of God says baptism saves.(1Peter 3:21)



....wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (1Peter 3:21).

Water saved Noah and his family according to (1Peter 3:20).

Likewise water doth now also saves us (1Peter 3:21)

One might wonder why the jailer was out in the dark, at midnight looking for water to be baptized if it was not necessary for salvation (Acts 16:30-34).

The jailer knew just as the Ethiopian eunuch knew immersion in water was necessary for salvation (Acts 2:38)(Mark 16:15,16). They were in the desert why didn't they wait until they got back to a town where people could witness this action? The answer is b/c each time someone understood what they needed to do to be saved they did it "immediately" if they took the information seriously.

They both (eunuch/jailer) "rejoiced" only after being baptized in water for the remission of their sins.(Acts 16:34)(Acts 8:39)

The jailer and his household was said to only "believe" after they went out at midnight in the dark and was immersed in water for the remission of sins.

In this case (and others) the word "believe" is a synecdoche. The word "believe" stood for all the jailer done to be saved. Many have not learned this very important point.

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Sosthenes

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#11 Oct 4, 2013
Liz wrote:
Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?
The one the council of Worms approved? Or the one where they threw out the books the Zorastrans include? The King James? The New Word?
All manipulated by men to fit their selfish and hateful agendas.
Nice that you have relegated millions of church goers to Hell because they weren't "baptised" in the correct order that you or Swaggart or some other hair god decrees.
Use your brain for something good.


*May I ask how you became a Christian?

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WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#12 Oct 5, 2013
Sosthenes wrote:
<quoted text>
*Liz - "Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?"
Me - I use the KJV myself.
I use the actual bible that Jesus used.
It has his finger prints on it.
Inerrant in every way, direct from God.
Full and complete for all time, all at once.

It has gilt edges, and is tabbed and versed.
Just as God created it.

For a small offering I can sell you a
vial of crucifixion blood and water.

The wine they served him is more expensive.

Sosthenes

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#13 Oct 6, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>
I use the actual bible that Jesus used.
It has his finger prints on it.
Inerrant in every way, direct from God.
Full and complete for all time, all at once.
It has gilt edges, and is tabbed and versed.
Just as God created it.
For a small offering I can sell you a
vial of crucifixion blood and water.
The wine they served him is more expensive.
What does that "actual bible" tell people to do to become a Christian?

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bob

Dallas, TX

#14 Oct 7, 2013
Sosthenes wrote:
<quoted text>
*Liz - "Which Bible are you quoting snake handler?"
Me - I use the KJV myself.
*Liz - "Nice that you have relegated millions of church goers to Hell because they weren't "baptised" in the correct order"
Me - I just posted The position of the NT and the Baptist.
1. New Testament (GOD)
2. The Baptist (a denomination of men)
(Eph. 3:3,4)(Eph.5:17)(Jn 7:17)
whybaptism.org
thegospelofchrist.com
Now did King James burn Catholics at the stake? Or was that his Uncle? I am not a Baptist, you are assuming to meet the labels in your pointy little head. I was sprinkled first, then later immersed, but that is my business and I don't care what you believe about my faith. I also don't care about any "bishop caractor" who just copies and reposts snippets of bible verses he thinks apply to the modern times. He takes up space.
bob

Dallas, TX

#15 Oct 7, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>
With a bullhorn you can really be someone.
Find a nice corner somewhere and spread the word.
Don't forget the sunscreen. God created it to
on the second day.
WFO, we are on the same side in this argument, but I have wondered something for a year now:
Do you own a car? How does your power company generate electricity for your laptop/cpu? I am afraid the answer to those questions makes you a little bit of a hypocrite. Like all of us.
great

Mustang, OK

#16 Oct 7, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>
WFO, we are on the same side in this argument, but I have wondered something for a year now:
Do you own a car? How does your power company generate electricity for your laptop/cpu? I am afraid the answer to those questions makes you a little bit of a hypocrite. Like all of us.
he uses his servants to generate electricity.

Sosthenes

Since: Aug 11

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#17 Oct 7, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Now did King James burn Catholics at the stake? Or was that his Uncle? I am not a Baptist, you are assuming to meet the labels in your pointy little head. I was sprinkled first, then later immersed, but that is my business and I don't care what you believe about my faith. I also don't care about any "bishop caractor" who just copies and reposts snippets of bible verses he thinks apply to the modern times. He takes up space.
*Yes but do you care what the Lord says about your conversion?

(Mark 16:16)

1. Believe + Baptism (in water)= Saved

*or

2. Believe = Saved + Be Baptized (later on)

Baptist and all denominations teach #2 is correct but they are wrong. You cannot do something wrong and end up right in the sight of God.(Luke 6:46)(Jn 15:14)

#1 is actually correct and the only way to be saved.(Rom. 1:16)(Gal.1:6-9).

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bob

Dallas, TX

#18 Oct 8, 2013
Every denomination or church wants to be the only ones let into heaven. Christ told the thief on the cross he would be with him in paradise. Now if there is only "one set of steps" to "really" being saved, are you saying there are exceptions if you are being crucified?
None of the prophets or Kings in the Old Testament made it? Just a handful of Okie yokels who interpret the verses to fit their demographics?
You are a genius.
And so unique.

Sosthenes

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#19 Oct 8, 2013
bob wrote:
Every denomination or church wants to be the only ones let into heaven. Christ told the thief on the cross he would be with him in paradise. Now if there is only "one set of steps" to "really" being saved, are you saying there are exceptions if you are being crucified?
None of the prophets or Kings in the Old Testament made it? Just a handful of Okie yokels who interpret the verses to fit their demographics?
You are a genius.
And so unique.



8 There are several things to consider.

We have two covenants in the NT and you cannot be under both at the same time.

From the death of Jesus back to Adam is OT Law (covenant)(Jer.31:31-34)(Heb.9 :15-17)(Heb.10:9,10)(Heb.8:6-1 3).

From the death of Jesus forward people are under the NT Law of Christ (Gal.6:1,2)(James 1:25).

Only those under the NT Law are required to obey the gospel of Christ (MArk 16:15,16)(Acts 2:38)(Acts 22:16).

If they do not obey the gospel of Christ terrible things will happen according to (2Thes.1:7-9).---> whybaptism.org

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

To be saved one must do something according to (Rom.6:16-18) regardless of what the denominational preachers say each Sunday behind pulpits all over the world.(Heb, 5:9)(Acts 10:33-35)

(Rom. 6:16-18)

1. Decide wo to serve.(Rom. 6:16)
2. Obey that form of doctrine delivered you.(Rom. 6:17)
3. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.(Rom. 6:18)

Anyone who claims they are saved by grace "alone" and by faith "alone" without doing anything is directly opposed to what we read in (Rom. 6:16-18).

If that is not enough (James 2:17-24) says several times in different ways faith without works is a dead faith and a dead faith cannot save anyone.

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
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20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

The book of Acts teaches man how to be saved --> whybaptism.org .

Jews (Acts 2)
Samaritans (Acts 8:5,12)
Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:26-39)
Saul (Acts 9 ; 22:16)
Cornelius (Acts 10)
Lydia (Acts 16:13)
Jailer (Acts 16:30-34)
Corinthians (Acts 18:8)
Ephesians (Acts 19:1-5)- they were baptized twice - That is not being saved by faith "alone".

If one read (Acts 2) alone he would know what one must do to be saved. He would also notice that the saved are located in the church according to the last verse (Acts 2:47).

There are no saved people outside the church according to (Acts 2:47). This makes the church essential to salvation. I realize this opposes the message being taught in denominational pulpits all over the world but we must harmonize with the word of God and not the words of men (Mt.15:9)(1Peter 4:11).

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.(Mt.15:9)

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?(Luke 6:46).

(1Peter 4:11)- 11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God;


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Sosthenes

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#20 Oct 8, 2013
(Eph. 5:23)- even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Jesus is only going to save one body (or one church) according to (Eph. 5:23).


20 ... many members, yet but one body.(1Cor.12:20).

The Body = The church (Eph. 1:22,23)(Col. 1:18,24).

18 And he is the head of the body, the church:

and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body,



*Which church will that be?

Surely it will be one the Lord has named in the NT.

(Rom. 16:16)...The churches of Christ...


Can you find your church in the Bible?

21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.(1Thess.5:21)

...for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.(Rom. 14:23)

Is your church "of faith"?(Rom. 10:17)

If not, it is sin (Rom. 14:23)(1Cor.4:6).

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