pioneer valley, yucca az

pioneer valley, yucca az

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mark

Phoenix, AZ

#1 Jul 14, 2007
Does anyone know anything about this development? Is it in a good area, low crime, etc.
Desert Rat

Lake Havasu City, AZ

#2 Jul 15, 2007
mark wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this development? Is it in a good area, low crime, etc.
Excuse me if a previous response shows up, but since it didn't seem to appear, I will try again.
It is a homes only development on a 1sq mile piece of land on the southwestern side of I-40 exit 28. Mostly nice southwestern style homes on 1 to 5acres lots with water & electricity. My guess is very little crime, since it is by itself about 2mi north of Yucca. There are 2 other developments along the northern edge. One is an extension of Stagecoach Trails with nothing happening on the land as of yet. The other is Paradise Trails, which is a Cavco manufactured home subdivision on 1/2 to 1-1/2ac lots with paved streets and underground utilities. Presently there are Model Homes, but no residents.
Wick

AOL

#3 Aug 26, 2007
Pioneer - There are five 1 acre homes that share the same well which gets about 25 gallons per minute
eric

United States

#4 May 6, 2008
Pioneer Valley sub development is a beautiful quiet and friendly place. I think that if the market ever picks up and the planned projects are built in yucca those who bought there will be sitting on a nice little investment. I wish I could buy there....
Henry

AOL

#5 Jun 13, 2008
Hello , We were in the Yucca area again and after seeing most of Arizona , my wife and I have decided that Yucca is where we want to relocate. I hope to talk more with some of you who live in Yucca or close by. I noticed it was about 10-15 degrees cooler than BHC and LHC. We like that it is quiet and don't mind going into Kingman to shop for food and other things. I talked to a few people and they told us it is a safe area. We had worried about having a home and leaving a few times a year for a week or 2 to go visit the kids and other family. If any locals could tell us a little about your life there I would appreciate it. We don't need nightlife , shopping malls ect. we won't be doing much but hope to know our neighbors. We looked at a few lots , one area was Pioneer Valley. The option is either get the lot and build a home or buy an existing home. I looked into the costs of building and it was reasonable enough for what we need and want in a home. If any of you are real estate professionals could you give some imput. there are some good homes in pioneer valley, appear to be well built. But some have been for sale as long as nearly a year. I realize in AZ. homes are more expensive than Nothern Indiana and michigan. still I think the homes are over-priced and that is why they probably havn't sold. I say that because I looked into the price of building there and have a pretty good idea of what the builder or owner has in the investment of the land and homes there.I could build a home for alot less than buying one of the new homes in pioneer valley. As an alternative to waiting while i build , I considered making an offer on a home at about 25% less than the asking price. the owner or builder would still be making a good profit. My question is whether that would be an insult to the owner and a waste of time.? I think it would be a fair offer for a home that is sitting empty and un-sold in today's market. any advice you can give would be appreciated.

“Beep, Beep, which way do I go?”

Since: Aug 07

Yucca, AZ

#6 Jun 16, 2008
Henry wrote:
Hello , We were in the Yucca area again and after seeing most of Arizona , my wife and I have decided that Yucca is where we want to relocate. I hope to talk more with some of you who live in Yucca or close by. I noticed it was about 10-15 degrees cooler than BHC and LHC. We like that it is quiet and don't mind going into Kingman to shop for food and other things. I talked to a few people and they told us it is a safe area. We had worried about having a home and leaving a few times a year for a week or 2 to go visit the kids and other family. If any locals could tell us a little about your life there I would appreciate it. We don't need nightlife , shopping malls ect. we won't be doing much but hope to know our neighbors. We looked at a few lots , one area was Pioneer Valley. The option is either get the lot and build a home or buy an existing home. I looked into the costs of building and it was reasonable enough for what we need and want in a home. If any of you are real estate professionals could you give some imput. there are some good homes in pioneer valley, appear to be well built. But some have been for sale as long as nearly a year. I realize in AZ. homes are more expensive than Nothern Indiana and michigan. still I think the homes are over-priced and that is why they probably havn't sold. I say that because I looked into the price of building there and have a pretty good idea of what the builder or owner has in the investment of the land and homes there.I could build a home for alot less than buying one of the new homes in pioneer valley. As an alternative to waiting while i build , I considered making an offer on a home at about 25% less than the asking price. the owner or builder would still be making a good profit. My question is whether that would be an insult to the owner and a waste of time.? I think it would be a fair offer for a home that is sitting empty and un-sold in today's market. any advice you can give would be appreciated.
Good choice Henry.
I recently purchased a double lot on the western edge of the township myself. I found it more desirable to build myself vs. buying something already existing because it was likely a mobile/manufactured home which I didn't want or overpriced as you have noticed.
Pioneer valley is a nice location but definitely overpriced. I don't know how long the developer owned the land but alot of the beginning work occured during the height of the boom. So even though there is electrical and water to the properties, it is still pricey for the area at 60-70k for 5 acres. I believe the majority of the homes available were built by the same contractor and he probably got trapped by building at the high costs and is now hesitate to adjust to the new market. I see the same problem with Paradise Trails next door where they are still asking 200k for a decent sized manufactured home with detached garage on a 1/2 acre.
I don't think it will offend him with your offer and who knows he might be at the point where he's willing to try to recoup most of his investment.
Good luck on your decision and welcome neighbor.
Mark

United States

#7 Jun 16, 2008
Just out of curiosity, what makes land in Pioneer Valley worth 6 times more than land in Stagecoach Trails?
Vive la difference

Lake Havasu City, AZ

#8 Jun 17, 2008
Henry wrote:
Hello , We were in the Yucca area again and after seeing most of Arizona , my wife and I have decided that Yucca is where we want to relocate..
There is a sentence you would not expect to see.
To each their own.

“Beep, Beep, which way do I go?”

Since: Aug 07

Yucca, AZ

#9 Jun 17, 2008
Mark wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what makes land in Pioneer Valley worth 6 times more than land in Stagecoach Trails?
Very good question that I don't have a answer for.
I could see some difference in the fact that Stagecoach Trails is limited to 10-40 acres whereas Pioneer Valley is 1-5 acres. Pioneer Valley also provides water to each of the properties, but unlike Paradise Trails that is adjacent to them, they don't have paved roads with curb and gutter and fire protection (hydrants). They are homes-only whereas Stagecoach Trails has only certain areas that are homes-only and they are conviently located near the freeway.
Those differences though shouldn't justify the asking prices. Not when you compare to the changes in value throughout the Mohave County area.
Justin Chambers

Bullhead City, AZ

#10 Jun 17, 2008
Hey Desert Rat. We just listed the old Yucca Mission in Yucca Townsite for 130,000. It is 10 lots and is a total of 1.78 acres. Kind of interesting I think.

Thanks,

Justin Chambers
www.kingmanlandbrokers.com
Desert Rat I wrote:
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Very good question that I don't have a answer for.
I could see some difference in the fact that Stagecoach Trails is limited to 10-40 acres whereas Pioneer Valley is 1-5 acres. Pioneer Valley also provides water to each of the properties, but unlike Paradise Trails that is adjacent to them, they don't have paved roads with curb and gutter and fire protection (hydrants). They are homes-only whereas Stagecoach Trails has only certain areas that are homes-only and they are conviently located near the freeway.
Those differences though shouldn't justify the asking prices. Not when you compare to the changes in value throughout the Mohave County area.
eric p

United States

#11 Jun 17, 2008
I live here at Pioneer Valley. We love it. We chose to move here because we couldn't find any other horse property within our budget. Pioneer Valley is awesome, all neighbors are friendly and we all watch out for one another. Never had any problems. My wife has all of the listings here as well. As far as asking prices go, remember those are just asking prices, so make your offer..Remember no offer is better than no offer. Come by anytime just look for the 4 white horses, and we can talk more about the area..
Mark

United States

#12 Jun 17, 2008
Desert Rat I wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good question that I don't have a answer for.
I could see some difference in the fact that Stagecoach Trails is limited to 10-40 acres whereas Pioneer Valley is 1-5 acres. Pioneer Valley also provides water to each of the properties, but unlike Paradise Trails that is adjacent to them, they don't have paved roads with curb and gutter and fire protection (hydrants). They are homes-only whereas Stagecoach Trails has only certain areas that are homes-only and they are conviently located near the freeway.
Those differences though shouldn't justify the asking prices. Not when you compare to the changes in value throughout the Mohave County area.
Thank you again for your comments
Henry

AOL

#13 Jun 17, 2008
Thank you , All of you. We love stagecoach trails too. I would love to live there or Pioneer Valley.As Desert Rat mentioned , I am concerned about water. I did see a land property listing at Stagecoach with Electricty and I think it said shared well. Havn't checked on that one yet. Not sure how a shared well situation would work.? But it is a beautiful area. I don't know why the land at Pioneer valley would be more valuble. unless it is the Utilities are there. I am open to hauling water if I like the land and my wife is Happy there too. I think I remember seeing a you haul water haul company. Do any of you haul water? We love horses too ! I think i am starting to see a trend in mohave co. where home prices are coming down a little. except for those who bought homes the last few years and probably paid more than they should of. 2 years ago the advice I was given by a friend in Phoenix was to wait until late 2007 or 2008. He is a mortgage writer and probably saw a change coming. vive la difference , We like kingman too. But Yucca has an un-crowded , and quiet, mellow feeling for us. I'm about ready to do some kick - back and watch the dust blow. I sure won't miss the lawn mower and the weed eater and the snow blower.

“Beep, Beep, which way do I go?”

Since: Aug 07

Yucca, AZ

#14 Jun 18, 2008
Justin Chambers wrote:
Hey Desert Rat. We just listed the old Yucca Mission in Yucca Townsite for 130,000. It is 10 lots and is a total of 1.78 acres. Kind of interesting I think.
Thanks,
Justin Chambers
www.kingmanlandbrokers.com
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Hey Justin,
That is interesting. Is that over near the cemetary? Reasonable price, a little lower per lot than I paid for my 2. Thanks for the info.

“Beep, Beep, which way do I go?”

Since: Aug 07

Yucca, AZ

#15 Jun 18, 2008
Henry wrote:
Thank you , All of you. We love stagecoach trails too. I would love to live there or Pioneer Valley.As Desert Rat mentioned , I am concerned about water. I did see a land property listing at Stagecoach with Electricty and I think it said shared well. Havn't checked on that one yet. Not sure how a shared well situation would work.? But it is a beautiful area. I don't know why the land at Pioneer valley would be more valuble. unless it is the Utilities are there. I am open to hauling water if I like the land and my wife is Happy there too. I think I remember seeing a you haul water haul company. Do any of you haul water? We love horses too ! I think i am starting to see a trend in mohave co. where home prices are coming down a little. except for those who bought homes the last few years and probably paid more than they should of. 2 years ago the advice I was given by a friend in Phoenix was to wait until late 2007 or 2008. He is a mortgage writer and probably saw a change coming. vive la difference , We like kingman too. But Yucca has an un-crowded , and quiet, mellow feeling for us. I'm about ready to do some kick - back and watch the dust blow. I sure won't miss the lawn mower and the weed eater and the snow blower.
I have a well on my Stagecoach Trails property. I've hauled only a few times when I had issues with my generator and only 55 gallons at a time. The water haul pump in Yucca is very reasonable. For 25 cents, I filled the 55 gallon drum and used the rest to wash the dirt off my truck. I think it gives you somewhere between 60 and 80 gallons/25 cents.
Leanne

Lake Havasu City, AZ

#16 Jun 19, 2008
Just for reference, where is the water haul pump in Yucca? I have a well, but you never know about those generators.

“Beep, Beep, which way do I go?”

Since: Aug 07

Yucca, AZ

#17 Jun 19, 2008
Leanne wrote:
Just for reference, where is the water haul pump in Yucca? I have a well, but you never know about those generators.
It is right next to the Yucca water association's water tanks, just south of the Honolulu Bar. It has a quarter operated machine mounted next to the fence and you will need to open the manual valve on the pipe to dispense the water.
Leanne

Lake Havasu City, AZ

#18 Jun 19, 2008
Thanks, Desert Rat
Mark

United States

#19 Jun 19, 2008
Henry wrote:
Thank you , All of you. We love stagecoach trails too. I would love to live there or Pioneer Valley.As Desert Rat mentioned , I am concerned about water. I did see a land property listing at Stagecoach with Electricty and I think it said shared well. Havn't checked on that one yet. Not sure how a shared well situation would work.? But it is a beautiful area. I don't know why the land at Pioneer valley would be more valuble. unless it is the Utilities are there. I am open to hauling water if I like the land and my wife is Happy there too. I think I remember seeing a you haul water haul company. Do any of you haul water? We love horses too ! I think i am starting to see a trend in mohave co. where home prices are coming down a little. except for those who bought homes the last few years and probably paid more than they should of. 2 years ago the advice I was given by a friend in Phoenix was to wait until late 2007 or 2008. He is a mortgage writer and probably saw a change coming. vive la difference , We like kingman too. But Yucca has an un-crowded , and quiet, mellow feeling for us. I'm about ready to do some kick - back and watch the dust blow. I sure won't miss the lawn mower and the weed eater and the snow blower.
Henry,
Best wishes to you and your wife on your new venture. It is beautiful out that way. I’m probably about 20 years or so away from making my way out there. Hopefully there will continue to be positive growth in the area.
Stefano Bimbi

United States

#20 Apr 12, 2009
I just found this info. We purchased property in Stage Coach trails 10 years ago, which backs up to the Walapi (sp) mountain range. We just loved the area and hope to build our retirement home out there some day.

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