Something has to give
Posted in the Young Harris Forum
#1 Feb 3, 2013
I know how some posters love to rant and rave about "Floridiots" retiring here and wanting to change things but that aside, SOME THINGS do need changing or else.... But, we're retired, we've got the time and in some cases the money, experience and need something constructive to do with that time, money and most importantly, experience.
Some suggestions we tossed about the other night and the "problems" that would be encountered:
1. Contacting some of our former employers about locating a small plant here to provide employment, keeping to the axiom; it's not what you know, but who.
PROBLEM - There would be no help or cooperation from Kendall. He's already demonstrated his likely opposition should someone try that again.
2. Forming an independent development board to identify companies that are expanding, then "pitching" them, in person and with a dog and pony show, on locating here.
PROBLEM - Same as above. Kendall already has people who could do that, but don't for whatever reason.
3. Starting a petition to get liquor sales on a ballot, to provide more income to the government without raising property taxes.
PROBLEM - Radical conservatives would cause problems, even violence, and the SO could not be counted on to prevent it or offer protection to those asking for signatures.
4. Bring in promotions w/o involving the GMF or Chamber or using any of the bed-tax money. The purpose? Tourism which could lead to home sales and construction!
PROBLEM - The GMF and their lap-dog, the Chamber, would do everything they could to keep it from happening, possibly even legal action.
5. Raise money from the private sector to develop the land a local woman donated to the county for use as a public park. If nothing else, it would improve the quality of life here for everyone.
PROBLEM - With the sports complex being billed as a park, it's highly unlikely Kendall would approve it. Besides, there's the possibility/likelihood Kendall has already sold that property. Ending that idea, Kendall can not be trusted to keep his word on much of anything, especially where money is involved.
6. Getting together a small number of former "salesmen" to lobby the TVA to keep the lake up, to help with tourism during the off-season.
PROBLEM - That one is viable, mainly because it wouldn't involve either the government or the Chamber. Not having the support from either of those two wouldn't help matters, but could be talked around during a power-point presentation.
Anything else that can be done, anything that's realistic that is? Letting the county continue to die bit by bit we think is hardly an option for the next generation.
#2 Feb 3, 2013
you have raised some good ideas, as usual you will be apposed.
the thing for new business ideas is the location, ups charge extra from gainsville to hiawassee.
#3 Feb 3, 2013
Why do you need "help" from Kendall. If you and your buddies want to start a manufacturing plant, then by all means go for it. The population would love to have some new jobs. Quit making excuses and do it. There are plenty of available buildings around owned by private individuals. We don't have zoning here so you should have no real roadblocks from the county or city.
#4 Feb 3, 2013
for one thing ain't got no dependable labor pool to hire from. population is mostly retired folks.
#5 Feb 3, 2013
Really, you need to come around more often. There are plenty of able-bodied people around to work. I even know a lot of older, retired people who work or would like to work at something - and still can. But you just stay on that welfare, there crack head. Maybe Vegas will have some better stuff.
#6 Feb 3, 2013
you right plenty people that are dumb as a box of rocks, do you really think a money making co. would come there build a business train them dumb ass how to do the job, they would be BROKE before theey got the first product made.
you dumb asses got the foundation to build on but you want some one to bring a truck load of cash in there for free,
towns county is a black hole for business.
regardless what you put in get nothing back.
elect mike anderson comish an i bet the whole county turns around.
#7 Feb 3, 2013
Why don't I? Simple, two word answer; I'm retired (and loving it).
#8 Feb 4, 2013
You used the word "we" quite a bit in your opening discussion... and that includes "you."
#10 Feb 4, 2013
What's your point?
We, including me, frequently have dinner together and otherwise socialize - like at the Super Bowl party last night.
Most of us, including me, have fought our battles and made it to a reasonable retirement, and while we, me included, would like to help the community, have no ambition to do it all over again on a day in and day out basis. If the generation in charge now wants our help, the benefit of our experience and so on, all they have to do is ask but don't expect us, me included, to force it on others or do it for you.
#11 Feb 4, 2013
1050 makes good points. Typically, the responses deride his/her ideas and opinion and the blog becomes another shouting match of you vs. me. Towns Co. should expect and achieve better. The lack of leadership is obvious. Instead of complaining, get involved with the Chamber or some type of forward thinking organization. I particularly like the idea about working with the TVA to keep more water in the lake. Towns Co, Hiawassee in particular, have an incredible opportunity to develop lakeshore amenities or play up the natural beauty and opportunities that would create. Lets see if you folks can stop arguing and get something done.
#12 Feb 4, 2013
stop arguing, that will never happen.
#13 Feb 4, 2013
Perhaps you are talking to the wrong people? I have lived here most of my life except for when I went to college. I came back on purpose and am a productive member of the community. I would love to see a plan for Hiawassee/Towns county that shows a little thought for the future.
People will come and spend their hard earned dollars if they have a reason to visit. Go to Gold Rush in Dahlonega to see what a well thought out festival should be like. Take a trip over to Gatlinburg or Highlands to see a community that welcomes visitors. We don't have to have a "theme" like Helen - we have beautiful mountains, a lake that begs to be "played" in, and (for the most part) happy and friendly people in the community.
To your comment about the TVA - I've always heard that they pull the lake down in the winter when there is less rainfall to keep the Tennessee river levels high for the river traffic. I have no idea if that is true. It also gives the lake owners time to work on their docks and shorelines.
#14 Feb 4, 2013
The reason TVA keeps the area lakes lower is mainly so that they can be used to reduce flooding on the Tennessee River. We, Nottely and several other lakes are at the end of the chain of lakes and tributaries under TVA's authority. When massive rains come, like we had last week, these lakes are used to contain those waters which could potentially flood Chattanooga and other areas along the Tennessee. Is it effective? Maybe. Is it necessary? Maybe, maybe not.
Another reason is to help keep the Tennessee navigable, as the last poster suggested. However, recent studies show that such methods really have very little bearing on keeping water levels enough for barges.
All that said, what real effect would it have if the lake were full all year round? Certainly having a fuller lake is good throughout tourist season, but I guess it is questionable whether a full pool in the winter would help the tourist economy. Several years ago pressure was put on TVA to keep the lake levels higher into the season, and they did make some changes. I don't know if anyone is currently pushing TVA on the issue.
As for tourism, everyone knows there is more potential here than is being realized. The events in Dahlonega are indeed a great example. Maybe the GMF could take a few lessons from other places - yet I don't get the impression that they want to learn or try to do anything different.
#15 Feb 5, 2013
Study after study has shown that neither the TVA or the US Corps of Engineers has ever prevented a flood or reduced the affects of one.
When asked why the TVA doesn't leave the lakes up (or why they draw them down), they hand out eight prepared statements/excuses, all of which have been discredited. There was another one - that it's for mosquito control - but I understand they've dropped it because they couldn't get people to stop laughing.
#16 Feb 5, 2013
True. They ignored facts and figures, but then a very attractive, wealthy and sophisticated young lady (a "move-in", from Atlanta) who could charm the eyes out of a snake when she set her mind to it, went up to Chattanooga on her own and talked them into it and also to holding the draw-down to a max of eight feet for two years, then five, toward her goal of ending the draw-down program within ten years, thus saving face for the TVA.
Probably not. Going up against the TVA on their turf no less, is not for the easily intimidated.
#17 Feb 5, 2013
That was Knoxville, not Chattanooga. My mistake.
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