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Why is Meth/ POT /Methadone / Oxycontin more popular in the Northern Tri Counties where we have a drug task force?

Is there a questionnaire based solely on statistics for drug abuse and addiction in Union County that is public record?

How many people die of drug use or as a result of drugs in Union County area per year?

How many are under 40 years of age?

How many have suffered injuries due to drug use or drug related use under the age of 25 years old?

Have you had anyone die or suffer from drug abuse in your immediate family living in Union County?

Have you had a friend die or suffer from drug abuse in Union County?

What drug is the most known drug going in Union County for drug users?

*FYI "Spice" does damage that is not reversible and I am glad that the shops have been closed down.

What kind of community outreach programs are made available to the families and people of Union County about drug and alcohol abuse?
AA meetings?
NA meetings?
EA meetings? when and where?

There seems to be more projects for battered women than education on drug and alcohol abuse. I know battered women need help but if in all actuality a high percentage of those women come from drug and alcohol abused homes.

I have seen a lot in my life time living in Union County but I never want to see another child grow up in a drug or alcohol environment. Those kids grow up and either become the same or suffer is some other way.

Please do not leave sarcastic comments as this is to HELP people. Not reduce them as human beings.
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The quesion is how in your little town can people afford to live with very little business otherwise? Factories who housed over 600 people all together, hatcherys and major egg business closed. How does the town operate and function? Most of the banking jobs have been cut. Drugs bring in a major contribution to sellers. The sellers get people hooked therefore they have to sell to support their habit. You will know when one does not bring back the money or the drugs to the sellers. Fatal impacts. The smaller the town, the bigger the deal. Now everyone gave a guy hell who was a cop recently for losing his job due to DWI on Ambian. Has a doctor ever prescribed you that shit? You are doing good if they have and you even remember it but it takes a doctors signature. I have woken up to a car crash from it so all the hell that guy caught was stupids not knowing what the hell. Look the medicine up. The side effects and all. I signed shit I never would have otherwise. When I was growing up it was just pot. Now it is pills and the doctors are who are prescribing. Pills,spice, bath salts and Meth are the lethal drugs. Listen to Demy Moore on you tube concerning Spice. It's crazy since you mention it. I took Ambian and it sucked! I was awake when I was asleep. Literally. The repercussion is now I have to take 4 meds because of that drug alone. My daughters best friend was giving her Spice, the other best friend was giving her the same drug that The Possession of Emily Rose was based on. Her other choice of friend was giving her diet pills and pain pills. I never had a pill addiction from anything other than ambian and all the pills I have taken were precribed to me personally. The sad fact is, the doctors and drug dealers and users are the only ones who get anything out of it. The rest of the world suffers and sadly watches beautiful things, fade away. Try Nami as a website for help and intervention.
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Just asking wrote:
Why is Meth/ POT /Methadone / Oxycontin more popular in the Northern Tri Counties where we have a drug task force?
Is there a questionnaire based solely on statistics for drug abuse and addiction in Union County that is public record?
How many people die of drug use or as a result of drugs in Union County area per year?
How many are under 40 years of age?
How many have suffered injuries due to drug use or drug related use under the age of 25 years old?
Have you had anyone die or suffer from drug abuse in your immediate family living in Union County?
Have you had a friend die or suffer from drug abuse in Union County?
What drug is the most known drug going in Union County for drug users?
*FYI "Spice" does damage that is not reversible and I am glad that the shops have been closed down.
What kind of community outreach programs are made available to the families and people of Union County about drug and alcohol abuse?
AA meetings?
NA meetings?
EA meetings? when and where?
There seems to be more projects for battered women than education on drug and alcohol abuse. I know battered women need help but if in all actuality a high percentage of those women come from drug and alcohol abused homes.
I have seen a lot in my life time living in Union County but I never want to see another child grow up in a drug or alcohol environment. Those kids grow up and either become the same or suffer is some other way.
Please do not leave sarcastic comments as this is to HELP people. Not reduce them as human beings.
what are the irreversible side effects of spice??We need to follow suite with Washington,legalize marijuana...
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Its been a while wrote:
The quesion is how in your little town can people afford to live with very little business otherwise? Factories who housed over 600 people all together, hatcherys and major egg business closed. How does the town operate and function? Most of the banking jobs have been cut. Drugs bring in a major contribution to sellers. The sellers get people hooked therefore they have to sell to support their habit. You will know when one does not bring back the money or the drugs to the sellers. Fatal impacts. The smaller the town, the bigger the deal. Now everyone gave a guy hell who was a cop recently for losing his job due to DWI on Ambian. Has a doctor ever prescribed you that shit? You are doing good if they have and you even remember it but it takes a doctors signature. I have woken up to a car crash from it so all the hell that guy caught was stupids not knowing what the hell. Look the medicine up. The side effects and all. I signed shit I never would have otherwise. When I was growing up it was just pot. Now it is pills and the doctors are who are prescribing. Pills,spice, bath salts and Meth are the lethal drugs. Listen to Demy Moore on you tube concerning Spice. It's crazy since you mention it. I took Ambian and it sucked! I was awake when I was asleep. Literally. The repercussion is now I have to take 4 meds because of that drug alone. My daughters best friend was giving her Spice, the other best friend was giving her the same drug that The Possession of Emily Rose was based on. Her other choice of friend was giving her diet pills and pain pills. I never had a pill addiction from anything other than ambian and all the pills I have taken were precribed to me personally. The sad fact is, the doctors and drug dealers and users are the only ones who get anything out of it. The rest of the world suffers and sadly watches beautiful things, fade away. Try Nami as a website for help and intervention.
The dealers and users do not benefit from it. They may think they are benefitting temporarily, but it will ultimately destroy their life. Some people get by with it longer than others but the piper will collect his dues eventually.
Of course you have the typical street drugs like meth, heroin, cocain and it goes without saying that those are destructive drugs and when you start on those drugs you, on some level make a conscious decision to make a high risk choice. But what about the people who go to their doctor with a legitimate ailment that and come out of there with highly addictive pharmaceutical drugs? I think that is part of the problem now. Of course it's generally known that opiates, benozodiazepines and the like have potential for addiction. But a lot of people have the mentality of "I could never be 'one of THOSE people'." A lot of people also feel that because they were given to them "legally" that there isn't any risk there. That's absolutely not true. I, myself, became dependent on drugs that were "legally" prescribed to me and it put my life in such a mess I didn't even recognize it or myself anymore. The thing with addiction is, the amount you start out on isn't going to be enough for very long. The Dr, was giving me all the opiates and benzos that he "legally" could give me without having to answer to the medical board. So, I eventually started buying pills ILLEGALLY. That's when stuff started getting real to me and I understood what kind of path I was on but I wasn't able to stop on my own, even though the consequences were costing me. It's not a matter of how much will power someone has. Once you're in the cycle of addiction you NEED professional and spiritual help. The withdrawal alone is the most excruciating thing I've ever experienced, physically. If one does get past withdrawal on their own, it is highly,highly unlikely that they will stop using for good without outside help. Thank God I had access to help and have managed to maintain a clean lifestyle for quite some time now.
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The dealers and users do not benefit from it. They may think they are benefitting temporarily, but it will ultimately destroy their life. Some people get by with it longer than others but the piper will collect his dues eventually.
Of course you have the typical street drugs like meth, heroin, cocain and it goes without saying that those are destructive drugs and when you start on those drugs you, on some level make a conscious decision to make a high risk choice. But what about the people who go to their doctor with a legitimate ailment that and come out of there with highly addictive pharmaceutical drugs? I think that is part of the problem now. Of course it's generally known that opiates, benozodiazepines and the like have potential for addiction. But a lot of people have the mentality of "I could never be 'one of THOSE people'." A lot of people also feel that because they were given to them "legally" that there isn't any risk there. That's absolutely not true. I, myself, became dependent on drugs that were "legally" prescribed to me and it put my life in such a mess I didn't even recognize it or myself anymore. The thing with addiction is, the amount you start out on isn't going to be enough for very long. The Dr, was giving me all the opiates and benzos that he "legally" could give me without having to answer to the medical board. So, I eventually started buying pills ILLEGALLY. That's when stuff started getting real to me and I understood what kind of path I was on but I wasn't able to stop on my own, even though the consequences were costing me. It's not a matter of how much will power someone has. Once you're in the cycle of addiction you NEED professional and spiritual help. The withdrawal alone is the most excruciating thing I've ever experienced, physically. If one does get past withdrawal on their own, it is highly,highly unlikely that they will stop using for good without outside help. Thank God I had access to help and have managed to maintain a clean lifestyle for quite some time now.
Rehab is for quitters!
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<quoted text>what are the irreversible side effects of spice??We need to follow suite with Washington,legalize marijuana...
Prescription drug use affects more people than we can imagine because it's an easy addiction to hide and most people may not even realize they're dependent because the drugs are "legal" and prescribed by someone they probably trust. May I ask why you have to take 4 different meds because of an ambien dependence? I'm not challenging you, I'm honestly curious. More meds isn't the way to treat addiction because there is a mental cycle that needs to be treated in order for recovery to begin. As long as someone is relying on meds to get them through even though the meds may have no potential for abuse, the mental aspect isn't being treated.
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<quoted text>Rehab is for quitters!
Rehab saved my life and saved my family from even more pain and hardship than my addiction had already caused. It also put me in a position to be able to help others who are sick with addiction. When I was addicted I wanted so badly to just come out and scream to someone "I'm addicted and need help but I just don't know how to stop!" But I felt too much shame in admitting my weakness so, eventually it ended up coming out to the world in a way that was less than ideal to me. Addiction has this stigma of shame attached to it and that's what keeps many people from seeking help when they know they need it. People need to be more open with their experiences in order to help others into recovery. I'm not saying recovery is easy by any means. You have to want it and work for it.
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When they finally get done making Marijuana legal for either medical or general use in GA, the windfall will save this county.

As for the other drugs, it is the opinion of many that you have dirty law and KKK to thank for that stuff.
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wondering wrote:
<quoted text>what are the irreversible side effects of spice??We need to follow suite with Washington,legalize marijuana...
Strokes
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Eye twitches
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You are naive to think that these drugs are a problem only in this area of GA; it is everywhere. Northern TN, specifically Kingsport area, is worse than UC. What you questioned is a problem across the USA. Drugs have nothing to do with unemployment; druggies seldom work or are able to maintain a job. Yes, there are rehab programs in UC and surrounding areas. There is a lot of intervention, but intervention is a private matter and won't be found on the front page of the NGN.

I would venture to say a portion of drug use is among 40 year olds and up; those are the people who prescription drugs and are hooked. Many work and walk amongst us. Others are retired and live on pain medication.

One of the worst abuses is anti-depressants. Walking zombies.
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You are naive to think that these drugs are a problem only in this area of GA; it is everywhere. Northern TN, specifically Kingsport area, is worse than UC. What you questioned is a problem across the USA. Drugs have nothing to do with unemployment; druggies seldom work or are able to maintain a job. Yes, there are rehab programs in UC and surrounding areas. There is a lot of intervention, but intervention is a private matter and won't be found on the front page of the NGN.
I would venture to say a portion of drug use is among 40 year olds and up; those are the people who prescription drugs and are hooked. Many work and walk amongst us. Others are retired and live on pain medication.
One of the worst abuses is anti-depressants. Walking zombies.
I wouldn't say Anti-depressants are the most abused prescription drugs but you're right in saying that they turn you into a lifeless creature just roaming the earth, numb. The reason they aren't among the most abused prescription drugs is because there is no "high" that comes with taking most anti-depressants. Most of them take several weeks of use before the patient even begins to notice any effects. Even though they don't carry much risk of physical dependence, they are horribly dangerous and once someone stops taking them they often end up in worse mental and emotional shape than they were before they started taking anything.

There are many outpatient treatment facilities in the area and those work great as an after care program. However, once someone is fully in the addiction cycle they NEED to be removed from their everyday environment in order to retrain the brain. It's not just about stopping drugs. It's about stopping and STAYING off the drugs and that's requires learning how to train your thoughts to go in a whole new direction.
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I work in the mental health field. Almost all of the cases of addiction we see are familial. Children tend to repeat what they see or are around. I would say 85% of the time you see the pattern in the addict being around addiction as children. I do not know if drug addiction is partly genetic, but sometimes it sure looks that way. Live a responsible life away from abusers and there is very little chance this will visit your home. I believe the statistics you are after can be found with census data and crime data reported. As for the drugs of choice here, well cheap and easy to get. Not a ton of coke or heroin here. Mostly pills and meth. Guess pot too, but to me and many other that is more like alcohol.
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I work in the mental health field. Almost all of the cases of addiction we see are familial. Children tend to repeat what they see or are around. I would say 85% of the time you see the pattern in the addict being around addiction as children. I do not know if drug addiction is partly genetic, but sometimes it sure looks that way. Live a responsible life away from abusers and there is very little chance this will visit your home. I believe the statistics you are after can be found with census data and crime data reported. As for the drugs of choice here, well cheap and easy to get. Not a ton of coke or heroin here. Mostly pills and meth. Guess pot too, but to me and many other that is more like alcohol.
So true that drugs and alcohol are passed along in the family. Many kids got their first high with a family member. Using drugs, doing time, and poverty is all they know. I think it is a very sad existence, don't you?
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So true that drugs and alcohol are passed along in the family. Many kids got their first high with a family member. Using drugs, doing time, and poverty is all they know. I think it is a very sad existence, don't you?
That comment sounds very judgemental. Addiction has nothing to do with how much money you do or do not have. Some kids may get their first high or alcohol buzz with a family member but that isn't the case most of the time. I know of a lot of people who have/do struggle with addiction who have no family history of use at all. In fact, I know of a few who came from what appeared to be very stable families.

Addiction knows no social class or income level. No one is immune to being affected by it.
When I was in treatment there were people from all walks of life there but the majority of people there had led successful lives until their addiction got out of control. I shared a room with a teacher with a masters degree who was hooked on Oxy's. The clients in the room across from me were both nurses who worked for a big hospital and found easy access to pharmaceuticals. Another resident was a registered dietician. It's not always broke trailer park junkies that wind up caught in addiction.
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That comment sounds very judgemental. Addiction has nothing to do with how much money you do or do not have. Some kids may get their first high or alcohol buzz with a family member but that isn't the case most of the time. I know of a lot of people who have/do struggle with addiction who have no family history of use at all. In fact, I know of a few who came from what appeared to be very stable families.
Addiction knows no social class or income level. No one is immune to being affected by it.
When I was in treatment there were people from all walks of life there but the majority of people there had led successful lives until their addiction got out of control. I shared a room with a teacher with a masters degree who was hooked on Oxy's. The clients in the room across from me were both nurses who worked for a big hospital and found easy access to pharmaceuticals. Another resident was a registered dietician. It's not always broke trailer park junkies that wind up caught in addiction.
Two things I'm observing from your comments. One, you know it all because you have been in treatment; therefore, anything anyone else writes is inaccurate. Two, the knee-jerk reaction that I am being judgemental is dead wrong. Keep in mind some of us have worked and helped those with addictions; i.e., it is part of our profession, our bread 'n butter, our lifelong, so being in 'rehab' doesn't make you an authority, does it? For your information, the majority of young addicts are from low income families -- they commit crimes or deal drugs and end up in prison. Prison and jail is their rehab center, darling; they don't get to go to a special treatment center and have "roommates" with a master's degree.

I will repeat myself, again. I think addiction is sad for all concerned whether poor, middle-class, or wealthy. Worse than the addict is the co-dependents who pretend there is no elephant in the room.

Moving right along...Nothing like a reformed addict or alcoholic is there?
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Two things I'm observing from your comments. One, you know it all because you have been in treatment; therefore, anything anyone else writes is inaccurate. Two, the knee-jerk reaction that I am being judgemental is dead wrong. Keep in mind some of us have worked and helped those with addictions; i.e., it is part of our profession, our bread 'n butter, our lifelong, so being in 'rehab' doesn't make you an authority, does it? For your information, the majority of young addicts are from low income families -- they commit crimes or deal drugs and end up in prison. Prison and jail is their rehab center, darling; they don't get to go to a special treatment center and have "roommates" with a master's degree.
I will repeat myself, again. I think addiction is sad for all concerned whether poor, middle-class, or wealthy. Worse than the addict is the co-dependents who pretend there is no elephant in the room.
Moving right along...Nothing like a reformed addict or alcoholic is there?
Never claimed to know it all. There are a lot of misconceptions regarding addiction and I happened to notice a few in your posts. For you information I haven't "just" been to rehab. In addition to treatment, I have studied addiction and work with addicts in early recovery. Being an ex cop doesn't mean you have any kind of grasp on addiction other than what you saw on the street.

Jail or prison is nothing but clean time for an addict and because they don't get treatment for the problem they almost always end up back in jail.

My calling you out on your judgement wasn't a "knee-jerk reaction". It was a pretty accurate observation of the attitude that freely flows from your keyboard, all over this forum. In terms you can understand, your attitude sucks.
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It is the main profit in your county and I do not care if you smoke pot or not. I do not but the pills and the spice and bath salts are a major problem. I would like to see a major company or all businesss sponsor a drug test day for middle and high schoolers. Everyone get tested! It won't happen though because there is too much income to be made in your dear county. It's not from a lack of activities for children. It is a market and always has been. Yes, I am aware of the global conditions when it comes to drugs, drug lords and such. I was born to a drug addict and don't even know how they got custody of me. I could tell you what a qualude looked like and the name when I was 5 years old and that my friends is how grand parents end up raising children part of the time. Not all but part. I consider myself part hippy because I love all about it but the drugs. Drugs are the main industry there. Money never sleeps.
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I work in the mental health field. Almost all of the cases of addiction we see are familial. Children tend to repeat what they see or are around. I would say 85% of the time you see the pattern in the addict being around addiction as children. I do not know if drug addiction is partly genetic, but sometimes it sure looks that way. Live a responsible life away from abusers and there is very little chance this will visit your home. I believe the statistics you are after can be found with census data and crime data reported. As for the drugs of choice here, well cheap and easy to get. Not a ton of coke or heroin here. Mostly pills and meth. Guess pot too, but to me and many other that is more like alcohol.
Oh really? I just got out of rehab for a nervous breakdown and suicidal thoughts partially because I had to relive my youth for the last year and 4 years ago I buried a step dad who brought a lot of trouble with drugs to aide the already parental problem. I haven't been right since. I did the christian thing and took care of him till his last breath and on his dying bed I had to deal with my parent begging for him to give the truck and house to her necause he left it to my children. NOT ME, my children. God only knows what drugs she was on then but hell no children do not always repeat what their parents do. Drugs is a matter of choice, peer preasure and self medicating. I and several others who grew up in the crap managed to not become repeat situations. In rehab I was place with the drug and alcohol dependants. I took a whole bottle of pills. Not for addiction purposes. I didnt know what they were and did not care. I had been missing my sons, listening to the drug addicted parent bitch about how she should have the house inwhich she has bitched so much now that not even my kids are getting it and she could be forced to move. I had to deal with more than I could stand. Those addicts I learned a lot from. It is a sickness for most and they cant get enough. Its not because of momma or daddy. It is not because life screwed them over. Addicts just can't get enough of what they think feels good. That is what most said. Some were military who have phobias from war zones.. people really are not educated enough. I know I am not and I have had to deal with drug addicts all of my life. Yes God can save you and you can look for him all day long but you can not ride the fence. Ill never try to kill myself again. Ill let others but not me.
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It is the main profit in your county and I do not care if you smoke pot or not. I do not but the pills and the spice and bath salts are a major problem. I would like to see a major company or all businesss sponsor a drug test day for middle and high schoolers. Everyone get tested! It won't happen though because there is too much income to be made in your dear county. It's not from a lack of activities for children. It is a market and always has been. Yes, I am aware of the global conditions when it comes to drugs, drug lords and such. I was born to a drug addict and don't even know how they got custody of me. I could tell you what a qualude looked like and the name when I was 5 years old and that my friends is how grand parents end up raising children part of the time. Not all but part. I consider myself part hippy because I love all about it but the drugs. Drugs are the main industry there. Money never sleeps.
Just an FYI. The high school does, in fact randomly drug test students. However, I'm not sure how I feel about this. A part of me feels like it's a violation of privacy for the students and that it should ultimately be up to the parents to say whether or not they want to subject their child to a drug test. Another part of me understands that it could detect a potential for drug abuse before the child is too far down the road of addiction. But, Not everyone who takes a hit of marijuana ends up an addict.
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