Accused killer seeks rarity in York County: Bail on a murder charge

There are 31 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Feb 12, 2011, titled Accused killer seeks rarity in York County: Bail on a murder charge. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

A Fawn Township man being held on murder charges for allegedly killing his brother and attempting to dismember the body wants out of York County Prison on bail pending trial.

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Give it to him

Hanover, PA

#1 Feb 12, 2011
He can go kill himself and save us money.
MGK

Lewisberry, PA

#2 Feb 12, 2011
I know Justin personally. This is a case of the media sensationalizing something that was self defense. He is a good kid, and yes, his actions after the fact were wrong, but the act itself was in self defense.
Weezer

Red Lion, PA

#3 Feb 12, 2011
MGK wrote:
I know Justin personally. This is a case of the media sensationalizing something that was self defense. He is a good kid, and yes, his actions after the fact were wrong, but the act itself was in self defense.
You maybe exactly right but that is up to the jury to decide.
More than likely he will not get bail and that will be up to
the Judge to decide.
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#4 Feb 12, 2011
How is cutting your brother up after you said you shot him 3 not once 3 times at point blank range to make sure he was dead and then cut him up and try to burn him, self defense? this creep went to work the next morning like nothing was wrong until he got caught. The published confession of this monster stated he did not feel threatened and DID NOT defend himself against anything.

Yes I feel sorry for the family NO ONE feels sorry for this person and what he did and what he has put everyone through because he is nothing more then a cold blooded murderer. there are alot of people that know him and this family and I think that there are few that feel the way you do. HE NEEDS TO STAY IN JAIL FOREVER and live with the horrific thing he has done!!!!! Since they wont impopse the death sentence.

Those of us who live in Southern York County dont want this thing walking around free, what if a child makes him mad or god forbid someone cuts him off in traffic and pisses him off then what his excuse for murder, temporary insanity or are they going to use the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder because he spent a few months in the ARMY? HE WAS DIS-HONORABLY discharged for beating a commrade with the butt of his gun!!!!!
MGK wrote:
I know Justin personally. This is a case of the media sensationalizing something that was self defense. He is a good kid, and yes, his actions after the fact were wrong, but the act itself was in self defense.
MGK

Lewisberry, PA

#5 Feb 12, 2011
really concerned for SYC wrote:
The published confession of this monster stated he did not feel threatened and DID NOT defend himself against anything.<quoted text>
As you stated, this is only the published side of things. Seriously, do you believe that the media has completely covered both sides of this case? Of any case?

I understand your anger about this, but again I have to stress that you don't know the whole situation. I am not making excuses, just making a statement. What the media has covered is about 5% of the whole story. If you truly knew that, you would not be acting like he is the next Ted Bundy.

Since: Aug 10

Spring Grove, PA

#6 Feb 12, 2011
he is to appear before john kennedy. is marilyn monroe gonna be there??
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#7 Feb 12, 2011
To each his own, unfortunately we do know the family and the pre trial was more detailed and gruesome then what was published so yes we all think he needs to stay away. its better for all who knew brandon!
MGK wrote:
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As you stated, this is only the published side of things. Seriously, do you believe that the media has completely covered both sides of this case? Of any case?
I understand your anger about this, but again I have to stress that you don't know the whole situation. I am not making excuses, just making a statement. What the media has covered is about 5% of the whole story. If you truly knew that, you would not be acting like he is the next Ted Bundy.
Bored

York, PA

#8 Feb 12, 2011
MGK wrote:
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As you stated, this is only the published side of things. Seriously, do you believe that the media has completely covered both sides of this case? Of any case?
I understand your anger about this, but again I have to stress that you don't know the whole situation. I am not making excuses, just making a statement. What the media has covered is about 5% of the whole story. If you truly knew that, you would not be acting like he is the next Ted Bundy.
If there was a published confession, what other side is their? If he confessed, that's all we really need to know.
David

Mount Wolf, PA

#9 Feb 12, 2011
Defense lawyer scum will try anything.
MGK

Lewisberry, PA

#10 Feb 12, 2011
Bored wrote:
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If there was a published confession, what other side is their? If he confessed, that's all we really need to know.
The only thing that he was truthful about in that confession was the fact that he did it. The real circumstances will come out in the trial. Aside from what he did after the fact, I don't blame Justin at all.
really concerned for SYC wrote:
To each his own, unfortunately we do know the family and the pre trial was more detailed and gruesome then what was published so yes we all think he needs to stay away. its better for all who knew brandon!
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I'm assuming that since you know the family that you know how horrible Brandon was to Justin and how far he pushed him. I doubt any of us could have withstood that kind of mental abuse without snapping. I find it ironic that a woman who shoots an abusive man is looked at as a hero while a young man who is abused by his older brother does the same and he is a monster. Society needs to check its double standard.
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#11 Feb 12, 2011
circumstances I agree have and or had alot to do with this unfortunate act HOWEVER, there where other factors too. Where was mom,or other family members? Why was this situation allowed to continue if he was emotional abusive to his brother? why was there no intervention if brandon was such a horrible person, why were they left alone in the same home, IF there was such animosity and hatred as you are implicating where was the buffers that a family should have? I think that shooting regardless of abuse can and has occurred when a human being reaches a snapping point, but 3 shots point blank and then dismemberment? To tell what you got to do it and hide the evidence is for thought no matter who did it. that my friend is pre meditation, as well as his prior instance of un controlled anger in the military what is the excuse for that?
Another Opinion

York, PA

#12 Feb 12, 2011
MGK wrote:
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The only thing that he was truthful about in that confession was the fact that he did it. The real circumstances will come out in the trial. Aside from what he did after the fact, I don't blame Justin at all.
<quoted text>
I'm assuming that since you know the family that you know how horrible Brandon was to Justin and how far he pushed him. I doubt any of us could have withstood that kind of mental abuse without snapping. I find it ironic that a woman who shoots an abusive man is looked at as a hero while a young man who is abused by his older brother does the same and he is a monster. Society needs to check its double standard.
According to the few posts on this thread, other than yours, and newspaper accounts, society pretty much DID check its STANDARDS! And we despise this behavior! Regardless of how far anyone is pushed, they do not do what this murderer did!!! Although THEY cut off their hair, they DID NOT cut off their fingers, even in Auschwitz; neither did Ted Bundy! For the sake of all of our safety, this despicable murder should NOT be released into society. As another poster so eloquently stated, supposed we are driving down the road and this maniac even THINKS we cut him off; wow! Good luck on THAT ONE!!! Give him the very rusty needle and get it over with. However, HE will probably outlive most of us, on death row, if that is what his sentence hopefully is; until ALL the post trials are completed; while the attorneys (plural) get rich off of the taxpaying publics back. Personally, I would wish for his attorney to get gassed as well! No sympathy here!
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#13 Feb 12, 2011
I am not judging in no means, I am stating facts and questions. I feel horrible that any family has to go through this type of ordeal as well as lose 2 children not just one. the facts remain he needs help because this behavior is not of the norm. should be kept institutionalized and dealt with for the safety of the individual in this kind of situtation as well as for the well being of society.
What kind of life do you really think Justin were to have if released? Considering the circumstances either leave him there for everyones safety.
Tent and Awning

York, PA

#14 Feb 12, 2011
Oh yeah, he'd be a good one to have out
walking around among us.
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#15 Feb 12, 2011
Oh so now you are the judge and jury?????? One son is better then the other???? One life is more precious then another??? Well maybe he can come live with you and your family and you sleep well at night. If Brandon was such a piece of shit and deserved this you are no better then the murderer who hacked him up!!!!! NO ONE deserved what he did to his own brother! and like I said if this were such and issue why did his mother rely on Brandon to be the one who took care of everything while she lived her own life. Save your stupidity Murder is murder and thats what he is but now that you have made it clear..........Brandons life meant nothing to you and Justin is innocent.Not hardly.

MGK wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing that he was truthful about in that confession was the fact that he did it. The real circumstances will come out in the trial. Aside from what he did after the fact, I don't blame Justin at all.
<quoted text>
I'm assuming that since you know the family that you know how horrible Brandon was to Justin and how far he pushed him. I doubt any of us could have withstood that kind of mental abuse without snapping. I find it ironic that a woman who shoots an abusive man is looked at as a hero while a young man who is abused by his older brother does the same and he is a monster. Society needs to check its double standard.
MGK

Lewisberry, PA

#16 Feb 12, 2011
really concerned for SYC wrote:
Oh so now you are the judge and jury?????? One son is better then the other???? One life is more precious then another??? Well maybe he can come live with you and your family and you sleep well at night. If Brandon was such a piece of **** and deserved this you are no better then the murderer who hacked him up!!!!! NO ONE deserved what he did to his own brother! and like I said if this were such and issue why did his mother rely on Brandon to be the one who took care of everything while she lived her own life. Save your stupidity Murder is murder and thats what he is but now that you have made it clear..........Brandons life meant nothing to you and Justin is innocent.Not hardly.
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I am positive that I never said that Justin was innocent in all of this, and neither was Brandon. I am not the judge or the jury in this case, but I can judge Brandon. Long before this ever happened, I heard what a piece of **** Brandon was. Not from Justin, from others who knew him. Like Brandon growing pot on the family property to pay for his coke habit. He is not the saint that everyone wants to make him out to be.

You are mistaking me understanding Justin's actions with condoning them. I am not saying that Justin should be acquitted because of the situation, he did what he did. But in my OPINION I'd rather have someone stay in my house who can get anger management classes than someone who would sell pot to my kids and steal from me just to get their coke fix.

If people trusted Brandon, that is their own mistake. That does not mean that I think that his mother or grandmother were bad people. It was a mistake, nothing more.

So you can get angry, call me whatever you want but you're going to end up looking like an idiot. Until you know ALL, and I mean ALL of the dirty details do not act all high and mighty and like you are the jury.

If you want to quote me on something here is my official statement: Justin needs help, not life in prison or death. Is what he did wrong? Yes, I won't deny that. Brandon did not deserve what happened, but for the things he did, he deserved to be locked up for 25-life. I truly believe that all of this and more will come out in the trial. Hold your tongue until you know all of the facts.
fry him

Wrightsville, PA

#17 Feb 12, 2011
murder is murder. (facts) MKG let him cut you up once. Just drag him out back and just dispose of his wasted life he took a life take his
Amp Mutation

Shrewsbury, PA

#18 Feb 12, 2011
As a professional manicurist, I believe this whole case has been wildly blown out of proportion. At cosmetolgy school, we all made mistakes while learning to give manicures and pedicures. Lop off a fingertip here, a leg there - no big deal. It's all part of the learning process. This guy was obviously just trying to learn a new trade, and his cousin was a volunteer. Duh.

Hugs, Stumpy Ann.
Amp Mutation

Shrewsbury, PA

#19 Feb 12, 2011
...Oh my. It was his brother, not his cousin? That's different. You're not allowed to practice on a sibling. Fry his ass.
really concerned for SYC

York, PA

#20 Feb 12, 2011
in no way did I ever say Brandon was a saint, i stated that no one should imply one life is more precious then another. And IF he was growing pot on the family property I am QUITE sure his mom knew as well as the other sorted details of their lives that is not the subject.

As you know Brandons money helped pay the bills there I am sure. His family isnt the issue its the murder and the issues of why. Plead your sympathy to the court for justin, picket outside the court house if you want to save him, I dont care but I do know one thing, this family should have never had to go through this and when I say family I mean Grandmother, Father, Step parents and step brother and true friends. IF Justin ever gets out of Jail I feel sorry for him. This is a small country area and he will never be able to stay here and lead what was a normal life before he killed his brother as to many people know what a monster he truly is.
I wouldnt want him in my neighborhood.

The Point is....Justin comitted a calculated pre thought murder of his brother (bully or not) Brandon did not shoot him first and Justin stated quote" I DID NOT FEEL THREATENED FOR MY LIFE, BRANDON DID NOT PULL HIS GUN"

Now that what listed in the paper from the State Police and his signed sworn statement, Did he lie about this to? so there is no reason Justin did not get in his car and leave if he was being bullied, instead he shot him 3 times and cut his brother up.

I am not angry I am dumbfounded that you called a sadistic murderer a good person???? and his brother was basically nothing. Even if you thought he didnt deserved to be butchered he should ave went to jail?????

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