Workers: Vertis Communications closin...

Workers: Vertis Communications closing plant

There are 41 comments on the InYork story from Jan 15, 2010, titled Workers: Vertis Communications closing plant. In it, InYork reports that:

Vertis Communication employees coming out of meeting in West Manchester Township this morning said they were told the local plant is closing.

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Jeff

Harrisburg, PA

#21 Jan 15, 2010
Lets see, I had a job @ another Vertis facility I worked @ for 20 years until Hope & Change got elected & took office last January. Since then I have lost my job, due to a Vertis plant shutdown, unemployed for 5 months, got a new job that is great & I love, but @ a huge paycut compared to my former Vertis salary. Yes, thank you Obama, Reid, Pelosi & the rest of the Democrats for changing my life the wrong way & giving me no hope until you're all out of office.
Jeff

Harrisburg, PA

#22 Jan 15, 2010
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you voted for him twice. How'd that work out for you?
Better than Super Obama

180 people lost their jobs today, it's not about politics. That said a lot of this is due to the internet & newspapers & commercial printing dying. But the corporate/senior management @ Vertis has just killed the company, & as usual the hard working people in the manufacturing plants pay the price. The lying, incompetent corporate management sit back & collect their bonuses & could care less what they do to the hard working people who built the company. This plant was in York for 30 years & now it's gone, along w/ the good paying jobs. That is a sad, sad thing.
old and in the way

York, PA

#23 Jan 15, 2010
I have to chuckle at those who blame the closing of Vertis/York on President Obama's policies. Typical Republican way of thinking...like Pat Robertson saying Haiti is cursed and has a pact with the devil or Luney Limbaugh saying Obama is using the awful tragedy in Haiti for political gain. As several of you have pointed out it is merely the fact that print media in all forms has been given a death sentence by the internet. Not just insert advertising such as what was done by Vertis/York, but also many of the major and local newspapers are struggling to survive. Circulation is way down, I live on a street with about 25 homes and only two get the York paper anymore, there was a time when 80% of homes got the paper.
ydtbkm

York, PA

#24 Jan 15, 2010
old and in the way wrote:
I have to chuckle at those who blame the closing of Vertis/York on President Obama's policies. Typical Republican way of thinking...like Pat Robertson saying Haiti is cursed and has a pact with the devil or Luney Limbaugh saying Obama is using the awful tragedy in Haiti for political gain. As several of you have pointed out it is merely the fact that print media in all forms has been given a death sentence by the internet. Not just insert advertising such as what was done by Vertis/York, but also many of the major and local newspapers are struggling to survive. Circulation is way down, I live on a street with about 25 homes and only two get the York paper anymore, there was a time when 80% of homes got the paper.
Obama will use this for political gain. Situations like this is what he preys on. As far as the newspaper, offer a product worth buying, people might just buy it. It's not worth the 50 cents in my car ashtray.
orca

Manchester, PA

#25 Jan 16, 2010
Note to Steve : While it's true the market's do face technological changes thats part of the natural course of business and that is something a good business model builds on. However increased taxes,regulations,and a host of other brilliant ideas imposed by one form of government or another is the bigger cause for jobs leaving our country. The government is bought and sold daily by whoever lines their pockets. The voice of the general public has been ignored but I believe it may finally rising to a level that it can not be drown out. Also Steve - had the oppertunity to vote for one Bush or another 4 times - never did.
Steve

Camp Hill, PA

#26 Jan 16, 2010
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Better than Super Obama
180 people lost their jobs today, it's not about politics.
Yet there you are, one post above, blaming Obama for what happened with Vertis. Believe me, Vertis and the printing industry have had problems long before Obama was elected.
Steve

Camp Hill, PA

#27 Jan 16, 2010
orca wrote:
However increased taxes,regulations,and a host of other brilliant ideas imposed by one form of government or another is the bigger cause for jobs leaving our country.
No, the reason jobs are leaving the country are:

1. Desperately impoverished foreigners are willing to work for significantly less than Americans are;

2. Mammoth companies like Wal-mart put the hurt on their suppliers to keep prices down, forcing those companies to move operations overseas; and

3. Americans love a bargain and don't necessarily understand or care about the longterm societal cost of buying cheap products manufactured in the third world.

It's great to be able to buy t-shirts at Wal-mart for less than you paid in the 1970s, but what good is a bargain when no one here has a job?
x employee

York, PA

#28 Jan 16, 2010
this printing facility was doomed for years for narrow minded thinking mismanagement and living with the we no everything attitude, i used to work there and I"m glad I left before this happened. pressroom management in the "strickhouser years" of finger pointing did not help that place but only the competition
Jenn

Harrisburg, PA

#29 Jan 16, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Lets see, I had a job @ another Vertis facility I worked @ for 20 years until Hope & Change got elected & took office last January. Since then I have lost my job, due to a Vertis plant shutdown, unemployed for 5 months, got a new job that is great & I love, but @ a huge paycut compared to my former Vertis salary. Yes, thank you Obama, Reid, Pelosi & the rest of the Democrats for changing my life the wrong way & giving me no hope until you're all out of office.
Yeah not to mention that they moved us to Pa from Md and then abolished your job 4 months later and sent u back to the Md Plant and didnt move us back to md. But we are still stuck here in the School/Borough tax state....
2 time employee

York, PA

#30 Jan 16, 2010
worked in printing all my life and started when the plant was GBP.the place had some very talented people but too many times operated under the buddy system which happens everywhere but this place was a little extreme in that area. Had total mismanagement of the pressroom which was the failure of that place. Never considered new ways of thinking from other people who worked for other printers. ALWAYS this is the way we do it. well guess what, locks on the doors is your prize. sorry for the few that really cared.deal with the mess you helped create to those who thought they knew everything
old and in the way

York, PA

#31 Jan 17, 2010
ydtbkm wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama will use this for political gain. Situations like this is what he preys on. As far as the newspaper, offer a product worth buying, people might just buy it. It's not worth the 50 cents in my car ashtray.
You are absolutely clueless...it's not so much the content of the paper that would encourage people to buy it, they don't buy it because they can read the whole thing on line. I worked at the Vertis York plant for 22 years up until my lay-off on Friday. I know first hand poor corporate management, refusal by the company to update the plant and a doomed print industry closed this plant.
Steve

Camp Hill, PA

#32 Jan 17, 2010
ydtbkm wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama will use this for political gain.
And you aren't? You and your political friends are the ones bringing up Obama.
kelli

Baltimore, MD

#33 Jan 18, 2010
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you voted for him twice. How'd that work out for you?
I voted for him twice and i'm doing just fine.
Political Watcher

York, PA

#34 Jan 18, 2010
orca wrote:
...The government is bought and sold daily by whoever lines their pockets. The voice of the general public has been ignored but I believe it may finally rising to a level that it can not be drown out. Also Steve - had the oppertunity to vote for one Bush or another 4 times - never did.
The falacy in your argument above is that you did not include business. You should have wrote (paraphrasing), "the government and business is bought and sold..."

There are a lot of people out there talking about revolt (hopefully peaceful) against the government and I do not necessarily disagree but I am just as sickened and disgusted to my core and believe a revolution is needed on businesses when I see the financial suffering familes are living with and Wall Street still expects to pay bonuses and compensate their people so lavishly that it puts them above 98% of all Americans.

What I would love to see since I rarely do is someone who dislikes Obama and either is or leans Republican BUT would agree that excessively GREEDY executives (on and off Wall Street) are just as much as a problem as government officials. A healthy amount of greed is acceptable in fact it helps drive innovation BUT excessive greed as displayed so often on Wall Street rewards a few at the expense of all others. Disgusting!!!
Clue Phone

Camp Hill, PA

#35 Jan 19, 2010
kelli wrote:
<quoted text>
I voted for him twice and i'm doing just fine.
Isn't that special? I bet you dot your Is with hearts, too.
currentvertistem p

York, PA

#36 Jan 19, 2010
I love how most of you have posted on this article are so quick to blame someone else for your problems. The economy and many of the other issues at hand are caused by people just like you who will complain till the day is done about how this and that isn't being done right, or which person's fault it is and never getting up off your own duffs to do something about it. This country was built off the sweat and abilities of the people who work and get involved, not the ones who complain like little babies waiting for someone else to fix their problem. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." To put it simply, go find out what YOU can do to make your situation better.

And on the topic of which President caused this problem:

I'm NEITHER a Bush lover or an Obama lover, but if any of you would care to think back to middle school you may remember that anything as big as this economy problem or this healthcare issue takes a good 4 years to set into action. So please, before you complain, think a little.
Thinking a little

Muncy, PA

#37 Feb 6, 2010
currentvertistem p
York, PA

"I'm NEITHER a Bush lover or an Obama lover, but if any of you would care to think back to middle school you may remember that anything as big as this economy problem or this healthcare issue takes a good 4 years to set into action. So please, before you complain, think a little."

You are absolutely correct!!! It has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. And if we all remember, it all goes back to when we had a guy in office named Mr. Clinton who signed the NAFTA agreement.

So, think a little.
Dave

Sunnyvale, CA

#38 Feb 9, 2010
Why do you boobs like to blame something terrible like the Vertis plant closure on politicians? What the HELL would NAFTA have to do with the decline of advertisers using the medium of free standing inserts (Vertis' product)? Most inserts are printed right here in the good old USA. You can't print a grocery ad in Mexico and ship to NY in time to make the insertion you idiot!

Newspapers and inserts are declining rapidly as a medium. There's nothing a Republican or a Democrat can do about that.
Pascale

Wayland, MI

#39 Sep 26, 2011
Your job lost at Vertis has NOTHING at all to do with President Obama and you know it. I worked for American Color Graphics for almost 14 years and then in 2008 while George Bush was still President and the markets were tanking, we merged with Vertis because ACG and Vertis had the same bond holders and since neither company could stand on its on and may not be around in 5 years, the two companies merged. They merged so that the combined company will realize significant synergies, increase operational efficiencies and improve service offerings.

Everyone knows when 2 companies merge, some people will be laid off, plants will close and so on and so on. It would be dumb for two struggling companies to merge and keep things as they are. Sad that we lost our jobs, but I'm not going to sit back and blame President Obama for this. Companies are not buying as much print advertising as they used to, page counts were down, quantities were down and then you had the paper market consistently raising their prices. In my last year with Vertis, newsprint prices went up every month.

I truly dislike dishonest people, and Jeff, you were being dishonest in your comments by blaming this on President Obama. I thought RethugliKKKans believe in free enterprise. There was no Government interference in this at all so why is it that the Government is being blamed for this? Oh I know, itís because the President is BLACK! Well, let me remind you that the Vertis/ACG merger took place in 2008 in fact, ACG & Vertis talked merger in 2006 and that didnít work out so they tried again in 2008. Who was President in 2006? George Bush!!!!!!!!!!
If youíre going to post something, be honest about it otherwise it weakens your so called argument because itís based on LIES!

Sincerely,

Pascale Jean
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Better than Super Obama
180 people lost their jobs today, it's not about politics. That said a lot of this is due to the internet & newspapers & commercial printing dying. But the corporate/senior management @ Vertis has just killed the company, & as usual the hard working people in the manufacturing plants pay the price. The lying, incompetent corporate management sit back & collect their bonuses & could care less what they do to the hard working people who built the company. This plant was in York for 30 years & now it's gone, along w/ the good paying jobs. That is a sad, sad thing.
Chad Gentzler

York, PA

#40 Jan 12, 2012
Pascale wrote:
Your job lost at Vertis has NOTHING at all to do with President Obama and you know it. I worked for American Color Graphics for almost 14 years and then in 2008 while George Bush was still President and the markets were tanking, we merged with Vertis because ACG and Vertis had the same bond holders and since neither company could stand on its on and may not be around in 5 years, the two companies merged. They merged so that the combined company will realize significant synergies, increase operational efficiencies and improve service offerings.
Everyone knows when 2 companies merge, some people will be laid off, plants will close and so on and so on. It would be dumb for two struggling companies to merge and keep things as they are. Sad that we lost our jobs, but I'm not going to sit back and blame President Obama for this. Companies are not buying as much print advertising as they used to, page counts were down, quantities were down and then you had the paper market consistently raising their prices. In my last year with Vertis, newsprint prices went up every month.
I truly dislike dishonest people, and Jeff, you were being dishonest in your comments by blaming this on President Obama. I thought RethugliKKKans believe in free enterprise. There was no Government interference in this at all so why is it that the Government is being blamed for this? Oh I know, itís because the President is BLACK! Well, let me remind you that the Vertis/ACG merger took place in 2008 in fact, ACG & Vertis talked merger in 2006 and that didnít work out so they tried again in 2008. Who was President in 2006? George Bush!!!!!!!!!!
If youíre going to post something, be honest about it otherwise it weakens your so called argument because itís based on LIES!
Sincerely,
Pascale Jean
<quoted text>
Jean.........well said, good to hear from you. Hope all is well.
Paper Chad from York

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