Data on teacher pay

Gwen Solito wrote superintendents should be embarrassed since teachers earn "only $35,000 to support their family," which seemed awfully low. Full Story
What the

York, PA

#41 Aug 29, 2010
Sam wrote:
Teachers are way overpaid, no home owner should support their retirement!!!!!! Teachers should save their money just like anyone else and get rid of their union, cut their benefits ect. just like factory workers, getting screwed teachers are not from another planet. Why do the teachers think they are better than anyone else????
So Sam, a bit bitter from a career of putting nuts on a bolt 8 hours a day in some hot factory all your life?? How many times has 'I should have gone to school" gone through your head while you thought.. "righty tighty"...
In The Know

Downingtown, PA

#42 Aug 29, 2010
Here's the story behind the story.

I love this data and what it tells us about how much salaries in York County for teachers would have to be jacked up at taxpayer expense if school districts consolidated.

Millions per district in cost to lift teacher salaries up to a Dallastown-West Shore level.

But here is a dead serious warning.

The author of this article is Judith Higgins, who has been a tax and spend, business as usual member of the Eastern York School Board.

I think that the author, Judith Higgins, put this story into the newspaper to change her image in time for the next school board election at Eastern.

Don't be fooled.
Commandante Bravo

Downingtown, PA

#43 Aug 29, 2010
The woman who wrote this story is a member of the Eastern York School Board that gave the superintendent, Darla Pianowski, an eight percent pay raise this year.

Judith Higgins is not on the side of taxpayers.
In The Know

Downingtown, PA

#44 Aug 29, 2010
There are thousands of teachers in York County who's pay would have to be jacked up to the highest paid school district if we created a countywide school district.

Beware of the Trojan Horse
End public schools

Lancaster, PA

#45 Aug 29, 2010
The only way to get rid of overpaid public school teachers is to end public schools. Privatize the schools. Let the parents pay for the kids education and deal with the greedy teachers.
Public School teachers are socialists.
Parents who abuse the public school systems by having more and more kids are socialist and irresponsible.
Pay for your own kids.
Just_Me

United States

#46 Aug 30, 2010
jones wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, Pa teachers search, the last time I tried it ,it was only for 2009. Pa gym teacher $72,000 , so with %age raise it is no doubt higher now.
So, do you always go from being "T Ruth" to "Jones"? "T Ruth" claimed the districts pay for most of the continuing education credits. Since you're so eager to defend that person's claim, perhaps you can provide find the proof.
Just_Me

United States

#47 Aug 30, 2010
jones wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only me but every taxpayer/homeowner that thinks they will have to bail out an underfunded teachers pension that gets worse every year with no way out but us for bailing out a broke pension fund. Any more than two words on how to bail out all your fellow teachers on early pension by contributing more than you now do for yourself and future retirees .
You've lived to long and got used to too much of expecting the taxpayer giving you raises every year til you reach the $100,000.00 you think you deserve. We know enough will never be enough for you. Time for the State and public pensions to go broke and let the Feds take you over like all the industry pensions that have gone to the Feds. Obama has a new and improved health care for you. It's the same as all of us get. What makes you think you deserve to bleed the taxpayer over and beyond what they have to pay for your pension and medical benefits?
You post this rhetoric under the assumption that I am, or have ever been, a teacher.
Just_Me

United States

#48 Aug 30, 2010
T Ruth wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you really that stupid?
I'd be stupid if I had simply sat back and believed your initial claim. All I'm asking you to do is prove it.
Just_Me

United States

#49 Aug 30, 2010
DHG wrote:
Let's do a more equivalent comparison based on wages for time worked.
The school year consists of 180 days.$40,000/180 =$222.22 per day starting pay.$80,000/180 =$444.44 per day.
Non-education employees usually work ~256 days per year.
$35,000/256 =$136.71 earned per day.
So starting teachers earn 163% of what the average person earns and long-tenure teachers earn 325% of the average PA resident.
We might believe your claims once you define what the average "Non-education employee" qualifications are. There are not too many "college educated" professionals who would stay at a low salary all throughout their career.
Just_Me

United States

#50 Aug 30, 2010
Paul wrote:
Just_Me
20 hrs ago T Ruth wrote:
<quoted text>And not only does the school district pay for most of those credits, the teachers get automatic increases when they hit certain post graduate levels.
Do you have proof of these claims?
jones
AOL
Yes, it is fact, have a son that has been there and done that. I do his taxes.
OK. So we're talking ONE school district so far. As a tax "specialist", you should at least be educated enough to understand that "one" of anything does not always represent an entire group.
Just_Me

United States

#51 Aug 30, 2010
Say No To Baby Factories wrote:
I love when teachers whine that they have to work all sumer to get lesson plans together and how they have to take more classes etc. How many people held a gun to your head and told you that you had to become a teacher? If you do not like the job, shut up and change careers. I personally do not want to hear your incessant whining.
Whine?!?

Teachers aren't whining about working over the summer. They're trying to get it through people's thick skulls that their claims that teachers "DON'T WORK" during the summer are wrong.
Ralph

United States

#52 Aug 30, 2010
Many of you are just sick, ill informed and creepy individuals who I would not want anyone to have to have as a boss or superior let alone as a parent. Contracts are basically 10 month mandatory on site responsibilities not nine. The day does not end when 3 o'clock comes. Paperwork such as grading, planning, parental contacts, administrative duties and of course all the little stuff our bosses think of for us to complete cause they need job justification. Summers off...without pay...and yes still required to come back for curriculum writing, workshop training, settingup/tearing down rooms. Don't talk about comparisons with engineers. They get paid handsomely, make plenty of mistakes, take clients for a ride at times, GET RESPECT and don't necessarily need to take their job home with them. Oh by the way teachers don't get paid for client lunches, appropriate travel reimbursement, holiday bonuses, matching annuity installments,car allowances, out of pocket reimbursment, corporate perks such as free tickets and expense for entertainment purposes or clothing allowances as appropriate. Now the reular joe, factory worker doesnt either, but come on now engineers, architects, systems analyst, stand up and be counted
TryCompassion

York, PA

#53 Aug 30, 2010
Teachers are paid a fair and very good wage. The benefits are outstanding whether you compare them to other professions or not.
I think the bitterness of individuals come into play when many of the teachers or their unions start up with how underpaid they are.

Regardless of the letter writers intentions, the facts still remain.
The one part of the article that is not correct is that PA teachers are NOT required to obtain a Masters. Only college level professors must have a Masters or PhD to teach. If this has changed then it has changed only last week. I personally know and am related to several in the various levels of the teaching profession in several states. I know this to be 100% factual.
Say No To Baby Factories

Jersey Shore, PA

#54 Aug 30, 2010
Ralph wrote:
Many of you are just sick, ill informed and creepy individuals who I would not want anyone to have to have as a boss or superior let alone as a parent. Contracts are basically 10 month mandatory on site responsibilities not nine. The day does not end when 3 o'clock comes. Paperwork such as grading, planning, parental contacts, administrative duties and of course all the little stuff our bosses think of for us to complete cause they need job justification. Summers off...without pay...and yes still required to come back for curriculum writing, workshop training, settingup/tearing down rooms. Don't talk about comparisons with engineers. They get paid handsomely, make plenty of mistakes, take clients for a ride at times, GET RESPECT and don't necessarily need to take their job home with them. Oh by the way teachers don't get paid for client lunches, appropriate travel reimbursement, holiday bonuses, matching annuity installments,car allowances, out of pocket reimbursment, corporate perks such as free tickets and expense for entertainment purposes or clothing allowances as appropriate. Now the reular joe, factory worker doesnt either, but come on now engineers, architects, systems analyst, stand up and be counted
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
jones

AOL

#55 Aug 30, 2010
Just_Me wrote:
<quoted text>
So, do you always go from being "T Ruth" to "Jones"? "T Ruth" claimed the districts pay for most of the continuing education credits. Since you're so eager to defend that person's claim, perhaps you can provide find the proof.
I never posted under T Ruth ! If I want to post that the taxpayer is saddled with teachers being paid for continuing education like " being told to go for your masters as soon as you get hired "
and you automatically get a raise with course completion I would post it under jones, small j and not T. Ruth , whoever that is.
TryCompassion

York, PA

#56 Aug 30, 2010
Just_Me wrote:
<quoted text>
Whine?!?
Teachers aren't whining about working over the summer. They're trying to get it through people's thick skulls that their claims that teachers "DON'T WORK" during the summer are wrong.
I am not asking this to be a smart a** but just curious. Can teachers collect unemployment benefits during the summer months?
ICE

Lancaster, PA

#57 Aug 30, 2010
TryCompassion wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not asking this to be a smart a** but just curious. Can teachers collect unemployment benefits during the summer months?
Section 402.1 of the Pennsylvania Unemployment Compensation Law provides that a school employee is ineligible for benefits for any week that commences during a regularly scheduled school break if the employee performed services in the academic period before the break and has a "reasonable assurance" of performing services in the academic period after the break.

Pursuant to Section 65.161 of the regulations, a school employee will have reasonable assurance only if the educational institution gives the employee a bona fide offer of employment for the second academic period and the economic terms and conditions of the employment offered for the second academic period are not substantially less than the terms and conditions of the employee's employment in the first academic period. The regulation also provides that an offer of employment is not bona fide if the educational institution does not control the circumstances under which the employee would be employed and cannot provide evidence that the employee or similarly situated employees normally perform services in the second academic period."
Just_Me

United States

#58 Aug 30, 2010
TryCompassion wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not asking this to be a smart a** but just curious. Can teachers collect unemployment benefits during the summer months?
I don't know. Maybe a teacher who is following this thread could give you an answer.
jim

Dover, PA

#59 Aug 30, 2010
if you think york's average pay is 70,000 a year then teachers make a fair wage but its not its three times less then that
many teachers get paid even though they cant teach and thats the truth
unions are ruining the system
bankrupting our govs.
depriving our kids
and whats insane about making a top wage of 80,000 in york?????????? JUAN
lets see fourth garde math 2+ 2 2x2 2<2 1/2 plus 1/2 yur right thats really hard but thats not the issue the issue is how can we continue to pay the highest salaries in the area with yearly raises when we are all slowly going broke.

most teachers making that amount of pay are able to support and raise their family by themselves withiout their wives or husbands even working THATS ALOT OF MONEY IN THIS AREA AND IN MOST OFR THE SCHOOL AREAS.
over payed is over payed to all the good and the bad teachers.
half of what the teachers are forced to teach dont even help the kids get a job
Phys. ed
Music
quantum physics ?
extensive biology science ?
shakespear?
art?
Just_Me

United States

#60 Aug 30, 2010
jim wrote:
if you think york's average pay is 70,000 a year then teachers make a fair wage but its not its three times less then that
many teachers get paid even though they cant teach and thats the truth
unions are ruining the system
bankrupting our govs.
depriving our kids
and whats insane about making a top wage of 80,000 in york?????????? JUAN
lets see fourth garde math 2+ 2 2x2 2<2 1/2 plus 1/2 yur right thats really hard but thats not the issue the issue is how can we continue to pay the highest salaries in the area with yearly raises when we are all slowly going broke.
most teachers making that amount of pay are able to support and raise their family by themselves withiout their wives or husbands even working THATS ALOT OF MONEY IN THIS AREA AND IN MOST OFR THE SCHOOL AREAS.
over payed is over payed to all the good and the bad teachers.
half of what the teachers are forced to teach dont even help the kids get a job
Phys. ed
Music
quantum physics ?
extensive biology science ?
shakespear?
art?
The above rant is from someone who probably has never stepped foot inside of a classroom.

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