New Orthopaedic Specialty Hospital to go paperless

There are 30 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Oct 7, 2010, titled New Orthopaedic Specialty Hospital to go paperless. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Dr. Steven Groff is framed by some of the state-of-the-art equipment in one of the operating rooms at the new, 68,000-square-foot Orthopaedic Specialty Hospital in York Township.

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happy patient

York, PA

#22 Oct 9, 2010
I have been a patient of OSS for my occasional ortho needs for about 7 years. I have found Dr. Groff to be a great doctor. His staff has always been very friendly and helpful.

He has operated on my mother, who could barely walk before seeing him, and she had wonderful results. In fact, he operated on her on his day off so she wouldn't have to wait 2 weeks for surgery.

We have also used the urgent care and were treated well there too.

Just because a few did not have the best experience does not mean that everyone feels the same.
another happy customer

Red Lion, PA

#23 Oct 9, 2010
I too am a patient of Dr. Groff's. I have nothing but wonderful things to say about him and his staff. I have always been greeted with a smile. and though it's a large practice, you do not feel like you are just a "number"
This hospital will be a wonderful addition to all of the fine, quality services they offer. Thank you OSS for putting patient care first!
OSS is Great

Forest Hill, MD

#24 Oct 9, 2010
Marie wrote:
I'm sorry for those of you who claimed to have a bad experience at OSS. My experience has always been wonderful. The fact is, no organization can please everyone. So it's no surprise to see negative comments on here as you would with any other article.
OSS-- it's wonderful to see an independent practice grow! I have no doubt you will succeed and continue to be the areas top leading orthopedic practice.
WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST!!!!
Marie,
I agree with you 1000% They created 100 new jobs and have a great medical practice. Why are there so many sour people on this forum?
Joe

York, PA

#25 Oct 9, 2010
"Now, I work in the field and with these guys. The REAL reason they built it was they did not like Wellspan having a cut of their profits. Yes, they bought every ortho practice in town so they can be the big bullies. Then they went to Wellspan and demanded increased payments for their procedures. When Wellspan refused, they took their toys and built their own playhouse."

You have no idea what you are talking about. There were three groups that merged to form OSS, no one was bought out. Hospitals do not pay independent doctors, only those that work directly for the hospital. The payments from procedures are made by the insurance companies to physicians.There is no arguing that larger groups of physcians or larger hospitals have increased bargaining power with insurance companies and can provide more services. This is the main reason for groups combining, to cut overhead and be able to negotiate better deals with the insurance companies.
Joe

York, PA

#26 Oct 9, 2010
Umm What happens when the power shuts down and the back up generator doesn't come on for what ever reason. How do you know whats going on with the patient? Thats the only problem with paperless.

There are backup systems and paper forms to track information if the computers go down. If you need lab results, the lab can be called directly. The care of the patient is still provided by the nurses and physicians. The goal of a paperless environment is to decrease the amount of time the the nurses and physicians spend doing paperwork, which will allow them more time to actually take care of the patient.
Patient Advocate

York, PA

#27 Oct 10, 2010
Joe wrote:
"Now, I work in the field and with these guys. The REAL reason they built it was they did not like Wellspan having a cut of their profits. Yes, they bought every ortho practice in town so they can be the big bullies. Then they went to Wellspan and demanded increased payments for their procedures. When Wellspan refused, they took their toys and built their own playhouse."
You have no idea what you are talking about. There were three groups that merged to form OSS, no one was bought out. Hospitals do not pay independent doctors, only those that work directly for the hospital. The payments from procedures are made by the insurance companies to physicians.There is no arguing that larger groups of physcians or larger hospitals have increased bargaining power with insurance companies and can provide more services. This is the main reason for groups combining, to cut overhead and be able to negotiate better deals with the insurance companies.
Kudos to you Joe! You beat me to setting the record straight. I have responded as well to the blatant show of ignorance above.
Patient Advocate

York, PA

#28 Oct 10, 2010
where-ever wrote:
Many practices use Orthopaedic, it was the original Latin term. Only in the US was it changed due to how we pronounce.
Now, I work in the field and with these guys. The REAL reason they built it was they did not like Wellspan having a cut of their profits. Yes, they bought every ortho practice in town so they can be the big bullies. Then they went to Wellspan and demanded increased payments for their procedures. When Wellspan refused, they took their toys and built their own playhouse.
Dear where-ever~ It is apparent that you choose to write "what-ever" in an effort to show how grossly misinformed you are. Your comments above clearly show you've been "in the field with these guys" for all of 20 seconds. First of all, OSS was the result of 3 mergers over the years of extremely reputable orthopaedic and pain management physicans; all extremely reputable doctors that have over 30 years experience in the York community. A merger is just that - a combination of two or more entities and property to form a new entity. No one bought anyone. The decisions were made to merge to eliminate competition and further take a stance against the rising costs of healthcare in an effort to continue to provide outstanding state of the art care to patients in a more cost-effective manner as opposed to more specialty physicians leaving our state or being forced to sell to inefficient monopolizing hospital systems.

Secondly - with regard to your comment on demanding more money from Wellspan - payments are made to physicians, surgeons and facilities based on what insurance payers are willing to pay. Wellspan does not control who is paid what - insurance companies dictate that. Unfortunately, Wellspan does not control what is spent either... as a non-profit organization running on tax-payer dollars...Wellspan has no incentive to try to control costs; and when private groups that run their practices on their own hard-earned money try to compete against the Wellspan monopoly; Wellspan fights back in undesireable manners instead of trying to improve their own internal ineffeciency issues; thus contributing to the rising costs of healthcare.

Any economics class can teach you that inefficiency costs time, and time costs money. Use of tax-payer dollars results in lack of incentive to become more efficient; and therefore has forced some of the few independent practices left to fight for survival in providing effecient, private care to the community and surrounding areas. As a patient that at one time was in a tremendous amount of pain that needed emergency spine care - I was devestated to learn that going through the wellspan system would force me to wait weeks for treatment - The remaining private practices give us the option to be treated more quickly, and more efficiently with more personalized care in a more cost-effective environment.

Finally, I commend and give OSS a standing ovation for their willingness to put their own personal dollars to work (not tax-payer dollars) to improve timeliness and state of the art care to York and surrounding areas. I also commend them for creating jobs in the area, and providing the opportunity to create an environment which will have them put tax money back into the community. The physicians that are OSS have been in this community for several decades - providing experience and care that patients can trust. Remind me again how long Wellspan orthopedic physicans have been in town? Remind me again how well those same physicians personally know York County - and the patients that comprise our area?

I wish OSS all the best... carry on!!
ripped off

York, PA

#29 Nov 4, 2011
Neither would i refer those thieving idiots to a dog. They are nothing but money hungry, mercedes driving buffoons and to the person saying they do not listen AMEN to that. Unless you got money to burn because that is all they are concerned with is getting those appointments coming. They are starving and if you go to them thinking they care about you or your medical issue THINK AGAIN!!!! ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS YOUR $$$$$$$$$$ JUST remember they make more money off you by doing NOTHING!!!!
ripped off

York, PA

#30 Nov 4, 2011
Patient advocate my AAAAA!!!! They care nothing more than about money, that's it, so you are a moron because thats all you blabbed about in your book you just wrote. Do not go to OSS. They will lie to you just to get your money.

All I heard i our book is the competition between wellspan and OSS, that should tell you one thing right there, money hungry surgeons who do NOT operate, because it is more profitable to push you through all their BS just to rack up the bucks.

I went to one of wellspan doctors and they are no better then OSS.
I will never go back to them even if i have to go to someone out of state because those HIPAA violators need to go bankrupt and so does OSS.

Let them feel the dollar squeeze and when that happens and most of you get sick of paying for their lavish style of living by them milking every patient who can't live a normal life that they take advantage of just to get more and more money
Amethyst

New York, NY

#31 Jan 13, 2012
The reliability of surgical results is never dependent on the state of the art equipments of the clinic, the ability of the doctor or the opulent look of the hospital. Consider DepUy, it is a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary and a well-known brand, yet it has recalled more than 50 products including their hip replacement devices which caused the DePuy lawsuits. See: http://www.depuyhipreplacementlawsuit.com/hip...

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