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Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.

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Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116659 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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OKB, now that you've had your fun vaporing on over these non-points, you ARE going to get around to explaining why you had no clue that ObamaScare exempts 11 million illegals from the individual mandate, does NOTHING therefore to curb that huge cost sink, and instead lumbers the working poor and predominantly lower middle-class who will now be forced to buy health insurance and/or who will see their premiums doubled with the burden of paying for these illegals, and why you think that's such a laudable piece of legislation.
Alternatively, we would love to have a laugh as you attempt to explain why you would kick these illegals out of the emergency rooms to bleed out on the curb if they can't pay cash, as you've posted previously.
Like the Republican you are, I don't really expect you to answer why you would rather a working man die than a leech, after all you are a Republican.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#116660 Jul 3, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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Hey douche, you forgot to give credit to your "source", the non-partisant HuffPo!
Aw, upset, are you. The truth hurts. You simpletons aren't worth the effort to post a source. And sources don't matter to Republicans, you had your minds made up to every subject worth talking about when you were twelve or thirteen.
Just for you:
From climate change to evolution, the rejection of mainstream science among Republicans is growing, as is the denial of expert consensus on the economy, American history, foreign policy and much more. Why won't Republicans accept things that most experts agree on? Why are they constantly fighting against the facts?
Science writer Chris Mooney explores brain scans, polls, and psychology experiments to explain why conservatives today believe more wrong things; appear more likely than Democrats to oppose new ideas and less likely to change their beliefs in the face of new facts; and sometimes respond to compelling evidence by doubling down on their current beliefs.
Teddy R

Vaughan, Canada

#116662 Jul 3, 2012
okboston wrote:
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Alternatively, they are leeches just like any other leech. They don't pay their way. Just like old people on Medicare. Just like poor people on Medicaid.
Sophomoric rhetorical troll - no response deserved.

Let us know when you want to have a serious conversation.
okboston wrote:
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But it is you who accepts those programs (or do you want to do your own explaining about letting them die?) while allowing the working man to die on the street or get ER care if he makes it there.
Now why would any working man be behind any of those who stand in the Medicaid/Medicare lines?
Explain yourself Teddy.
Your argument here is lame and fallacious sophistry - false dichotomy.

The indigent are the indigent - whether by reason of age, ill fortune, or incapacity matters not, nor does their employment status. A civilized society has a duty to provide for minimal basic welfare needs - including healthcare - of the indigent. It is frankly shocking to read your aberrent view otherwise; but of course we recognize it as just another sophomoric OKB rhetorical troll - no response deserved.

Secondly, you persist in your dogged avoidance of any recognition of the proper (limited) role of the FEDERAL government vs. the States in this regard.

I argue only that ObamaScare is an unwarranted and foolishly conceived over-reach of federal meddling in an area that is properly the province of State and local government to address.
TSM

United States

#116663 Jul 3, 2012
The American People to Obama – You’er Fired!!
More bad news for the American Taxpayers GM shares near record low, taxpayer loss on bailout rises to $35 billion, Solyndra and other Green Energy Companies failures cost Taxpayers billions, another Liberal pipe dream Electric Cars, Gov’t Motors sells 8,800 Volts, abandons forecast of 45,000!! Jimmy come November you will have Company!!
Teddy R

Vaughan, Canada

#116664 Jul 3, 2012
okboston wrote:
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Like the Republican you are, I don't really expect you to answer why you would rather a working man die than a leech, after all you are a Republican.
Sophomoric whiny troll - no response deserved.
Teddy R

Vaughan, Canada

#116665 Jul 3, 2012
joe wrote:
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Aw, upset, are you. The truth hurts. You simpletons aren't worth the effort to post a source. And sources don't matter to Republicans, you had your minds made up to every subject worth talking about when you were twelve or thirteen.
Just for you:
From climate change to evolution, the rejection of mainstream science among Republicans is growing, as is the denial of expert consensus on the economy, American history, foreign policy and much more. Why won't Republicans accept things that most experts agree on? Why are they constantly fighting against the facts?
Science writer Chris Mooney explores brain scans, polls, and psychology experiments to explain why conservatives today believe more wrong things; appear more likely than Democrats to oppose new ideas and less likely to change their beliefs in the face of new facts; and sometimes respond to compelling evidence by doubling down on their current beliefs.
Chris Mooney??

Yeah. We should all defer to the cherry-picked musings of a kid with a B.A. in English from Yale University as being authoritative in matters of science.

GTFO - troll.
Chimera

Corte Madera, CA

#116666 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Chris Mooney??
Yeah. We should all defer to the cherry-picked musings of a kid with a B.A. in English from Yale University as being authoritative in matters of science.
GTFO - troll.
Have you read the book? No? So that would be consistent with:

"...conservatives today believe more wrong things; appear more likely than Democrats to oppose new ideas and less likely to change their beliefs in the face of new facts; and sometimes respond to compelling evidence by doubling down on their current beliefs. "

Chill, conservative. We know how easily frightened you are.
TSM

United States

#116667 Jul 3, 2012
Chimera wrote:
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Have you read the book? No? So that would be consistent with:
"...conservatives today believe more wrong things; appear more likely than Democrats to oppose new ideas and less likely to change their beliefs in the face of new facts; and sometimes respond to compelling evidence by doubling down on their current beliefs. "
Chill, conservative. We know how easily frightened you are.
Give me an example of a Liberal… New Idea!!
Teddy R

Vaughan, Canada

#116668 Jul 3, 2012
[QUOTE who="is it Chimera or is it joe?"]<quoted text>
Have you read the book?[/QUOTE]

No. I don't have the interest or time to waste on sophomoric partisan pop "science" written by unqualified hacks. Nor do I suffer from NPD, like many progressives who display a neurotic insecurity and obsession with "scientific studies" purporting to show how "intellectually superior" they and their fellow progressive idealogues are.

http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissist...

Chill, progressive. We know how needy and starved for admiration you are.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116669 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Sophomoric rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Let us know when you want to have a serious conversation.
<quoted text>
Your argument here is lame and fallacious sophistry - false dichotomy.
The indigent are the indigent - whether by reason of age, ill fortune, or incapacity matters not, nor does their employment status. A civilized society has a duty to provide for minimal basic welfare needs - including healthcare - of the indigent. It is frankly shocking to read your aberrent view otherwise; but of course we recognize it as just another sophomoric OKB rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Secondly, you persist in your dogged avoidance of any recognition of the proper (limited) role of the FEDERAL government vs. the States in this regard.
I argue only that ObamaScare is an unwarranted and foolishly conceived over-reach of federal meddling in an area that is properly the province of State and local government to address.
So what do you offer to replace it with, something that does what you claim a civilized society should do without all of the things that RepublicanScare offers?

And Teddy, stop playing the alpha hotel. You support those that would do away with Medicare leaving the elderly to pay a $24,000 bill with a $12,000 subsidy each year.

Or are you against that as well?

Are you looig for the holy grail? Costs less, covers more?

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116670 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Sophomoric rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Let us know when you want to have a serious conversation.
<quoted text>
Your argument here is lame and fallacious sophistry - false dichotomy.
The indigent are the indigent - whether by reason of age, ill fortune, or incapacity matters not, nor does their employment status. A civilized society has a duty to provide for minimal basic welfare needs - including healthcare - of the indigent. It is frankly shocking to read your aberrent view otherwise; but of course we recognize it as just another sophomoric OKB rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Secondly, you persist in your dogged avoidance of any recognition of the proper (limited) role of the FEDERAL government vs. the States in this regard.
I argue only that ObamaScare is an unwarranted and foolishly conceived over-reach of federal meddling in an area that is properly the province of State and local government to address.
Wht insuance do Republicans, or you for that matter, support for illegal immigrants?

The poor?

Enlighten me
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#116671 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
No. I don't have the interest or time to waste on sophomoric partisan pop "science" written by unqualified hacks. Nor do I suffer from NPD, like many progressives who display a neurotic insecurity and obsession with "scientific studies" purporting to show how "intellectually superior" they and their fellow progressive idealogues are.
http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissist...
Chill, progressive. We know how needy and starved for admiration you are.
Man, couldn't a invented a better example of projection than your post. You seem to be the one who believes in your own personal infallible pronouncements. Look at your past pontificating.

Republicans can denounce a health-care reform plan that’s pretty similar to one passed in Massachusetts by a Republican — and the only apparent reason is that this one came from a Democrat.

Grow up, please.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116672 Jul 3, 2012
TSM wrote:
The American People to Obama – You’er Fired!!
More bad news for the American Taxpayers GM shares near record low, taxpayer loss on bailout rises to $35 billion, Solyndra and other Green Energy Companies failures cost Taxpayers billions, another Liberal pipe dream Electric Cars, Gov’t Motors sells 8,800 Volts, abandons forecast of 45,000!! Jimmy come November you will have Company!!
I think you got ahead of yourself on the auto stocks. Record increase in sales for the month. GM up 5%.

OBAMA, YOU GOT YOUR JOB BACK!

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116673 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Sophomoric rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Let us know when you want to have a serious conversation.
<quoted text>
Your argument here is lame and fallacious sophistry - false dichotomy.
The indigent are the indigent - whether by reason of age, ill fortune, or incapacity matters not, nor does their employment status. A civilized society has a duty to provide for minimal basic welfare needs - including healthcare - of the indigent. It is frankly shocking to read your aberrent view otherwise; but of course we recognize it as just another sophomoric OKB rhetorical troll - no response deserved.
Secondly, you persist in your dogged avoidance of any recognition of the proper (limited) role of the FEDERAL government vs. the States in this regard.
I argue only that ObamaScare is an unwarranted and foolishly conceived over-reach of federal meddling in an area that is properly the province of State and local government to address.
Hey Teddy, couple of questions for you. What would happen to Medicare in places like Florida and Arizona if left to the states?

What would happen to illigals with healthcare in places like Arizona if left to the states?

Lets not forget that Arizona was one of the first states to institute death panels.

Texas has over 20% of its population uninsured because they are working poor. What has prevented Texas from doing anything, anything at all about this problem in the last 40 years?

Massechusettes and California have gone beyond what the federal government encourages, what other states have?

How much longer do you think it should be left to the states given your blessed "The Indigent Must be Cared For!" speech a couple of posts back?
TSM

United States

#116674 Jul 3, 2012
okboston wrote:
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I think you got ahead of yourself on the auto stocks. Record increase in sales for the month. GM up 5%.
OBAMA, YOU GOT YOUR JOB BACK!
OKB I do believe your major problem is Comprehension I said GM shares record low, my other point was Gov’t Motors sells 8,800 Volts abandons forecast of 45,000 nowhere in my post did I say GM car sales were down!!

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116675 Jul 3, 2012
TSM wrote:
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OKB I do believe your major problem is Comprehension I said GM shares record low, my other point was Gov’t Motors sells 8,800 Volts abandons forecast of 45,000 nowhere in my post did I say GM car sales were down!!
Buy now and wait 3 years. If you don't, you will miss out.

Facebook has a record low as well. I have no knowledge of a stock without a record low, do you?

You can cry, pout, or do whatever you want to do. It was the right thing to do at the time. Had it happened in 2007 or 2011, perhaps not.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#116676 Jul 3, 2012
I wish everyone a happy and safe Independence Day. Pray for or think about our Soldiers that will not be home this holiday.
Teddy R

Vaughan, Canada

#116677 Jul 3, 2012
are we joe or Chimera this week wrote:
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Man, couldn't a invented a better example of projection than your post. You seem to be the one who believes in your own personal infallible pronouncements. Look at your past pontificating.
Republicans can denounce a health-care reform plan that’s pretty similar to one passed in Massachusetts by a Republican — and the only apparent reason is that this one came from a Democrat.
Grow up, please.
Perhaps you might get over your childish obsession with rah-rah partisan left-vs-right Dem-vs-GOP politics long enough to recognize the fundamental difference between a health-care reform scheme created and administered by a State (which DOES bear the primary responsibility for serving such public welfare needs and wields the requisite Police Power in the first instance) and a health-care reform scheme created and administered by the federal government in Washington (which DOES NOT), to be administered by a federal bureaucracy which is far less accountable to The People than is a State government.
joe

Corte Madera, CA

#116678 Jul 3, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Perhaps you might get over your childish obsession with rah-rah partisan left-vs-right Dem-vs-GOP politics long enough to recognize the fundamental difference between a health-care reform scheme created and administered by a State (which DOES bear the primary responsibility for serving such public welfare needs and wields the requisite Police Power in the first instance) and a health-care reform scheme created and administered by the federal government in Washington (which DOES NOT), to be administered by a federal bureaucracy which is far less accountable to The People than is a State government.
Damn, man, you are at least as obsessive as anyone on this thread.
Fact: America needs health care which includes everyone (meaning affordable).
Fact: We now have a health care plan, which can be modified, corrected, mitigated, expanded, contracted, etc. It's how humans advance. Not by waiting until a light bulb goes off. That's only in cartoons.

And don't continue to look foolish with the tax schmax garbage. We all know what Roberts did and why and the future implications.

Go with the flow. The old system wasn't going to last much longer, anyhow. Now we can all work together to create jobs, yes?
DaddyRabbit

Macon, GA

#116679 Jul 3, 2012
Is Obama going to hire everyone to work for the government to get the unemployment numbers down. Obamacare will hire 16,000 just for the IRS to handle Obamacare.

When all is said and done I think Jimmy Carter will be saying, "At least I am no longer the worst president in history."

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