Patchogue ready to launch downtown revitalization

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Patchogue Village, with $3.75 million in aid from Suffolk County, is ready to launch a $130-million project to remake the heart of its downtown with a seven-story hotel, 240 new rental apartments - 67 of them ... Full Story
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Ken Hansen Brookhaven

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Jan 22, 2009
My suggestions:

Step #1. Close off Main Street completely and turn it into a pedestrian mall and put the roads to the north and south of the Village.

Reason: Cars don't buy things - people do.

Step #2. Install at least one if not three fine art museums and use those as your anchor(s). Planners: You don't need a major department store anchor.

Reason: Culture brings big bucks to anywhere. Everyone benefits - not just the "major anchor" tenant. Just count the neighborhoods in the world where the attraction of culture brings loads of tourists with loads of money.

I gave these ideas to Patchogue Government in the 80's during the last century. And they're still thinking about what to do THIRTY YEARS LATER!!!.

But duh - dis is Long Giland! Can the Roes and the Swezeys please go home now and stay out of this?

Thanks for listening.....

Mike

Yorktown Heights, NY

#3 Jan 22, 2009
Good for Patchogue .
Reduce that urban sprawl. Self contained communities are the future and an efficient economy.

“Slappy X. Sanchez, Esq.”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#4 Jan 22, 2009
Ken Hansen Brookhaven wrote:
My suggestions:
Step #1. Close off Main Street completely and turn it into a pedestrian mall and put the roads to the north and south of the Village.
Reason: Cars don't buy things - people do.
Step #2. Install at least one if not three fine art museums and use those as your anchor(s). Planners: You don't need a major department store anchor.
Reason: Culture brings big bucks to anywhere. Everyone benefits - not just the "major anchor" tenant. Just count the neighborhoods in the world where the attraction of culture brings loads of tourists with loads of money.
I gave these ideas to Patchogue Government in the 80's during the last century. And they're still thinking about what to do THIRTY YEARS LATER!!!.
But duh - dis is Long Giland! Can the Roes and the Swezeys please go home now and stay out of this?
Thanks for listening.....
Perhaps they didn't use your suggestions because your suggestions are ridiculous. They laughed at you in the 80's, just as I'm laughing at you now. Haha. No offense.

I prefer the first posters solution.
liner

Hicksville, NY

#6 Jan 22, 2009
The new hotel to be called the St. Lucerno Extended Stay Hacienda.
Bayporter from Brooklyn

Hampton Bays, NY

#8 Jan 22, 2009
Having participated as a neighborhood booster and real estate broker for many years in Brooklyn--I view Patchogue as a potential jewel. Our city brownstone community had many problems-crime, drugs, noise, vandalism,parking and overcrowded illegal apartments. Yet, the underlying benefits of a walkable, vibrant business center overrode those detriments. What for many years was sliding downhill, completely made astounding revitalization progress. The new housing should be on the two-family row-house model. This enables the owner to reap a monthly rent check, it sure made our lives easier paying the bills and mortgage. The sign you read on the Belt Parkway entering Brooklyn says "Home to everyone from everywhere!". Nice slogan, after all we were all immigrants at one point. For the problems inherent in immigration, enforce the law on slumlords who exploit tenants through substandard, overcrowded housing. The issue of culture does enter the equation. The Patchogue Theatre is an absolute delight. Our daughter has performed there in the American Dance Theatre of Long Island's "Nutcracker" the past four years, as good a production as anything in Manhattan and a lot more reasonable expenditure! Check their performance calendar. Teaming up with The Gateway in Bellport also brings some great plays to this stage. The emerging quality restaurant scene plus easy access to Fire Island should guarantee future revitalization success. Now for my one negative observation. What idiot planned the street lights that "grace" North Washington Avenue? It looks like a runway strip at an airport--dig up and re-distribute them proportionally throughout the community.
old patchoguer

Melville, NY

#9 Jan 22, 2009
I'm quite surprised that,with all the commercial paper going under, these companies would be putting themselves out on a limb. Banks are not loaning, they are failing. Where is this money coming from? And why is Suffolk County spending 3.75 million on this project?
I just think we should hunker down for a while until this current recession blows over. Unless unfinished buildings are what the Village wants.
WTF

Riverhead, NY

#10 Jan 22, 2009
Maybe Riverhead will follow in Patchogue's footsteps now. It seems they need a little hand holding to accomplish something like this. It baffles the mind how the jewel of the East End hasn't followed suit.
Curious George Rules

Bridgeport, CT

#11 Jan 22, 2009
Want to revitalize Patchogue? Place a bounty on illegals say $100 dollars per head,$200 dollars if pregnant turned over to ICE.Now that would be a local stimulus package that works, creating jobs,paying taxes and rid the town of this illegal felon vermon.
Taxes would drop due to less crime and police needed. Stores and shoppers would return creating even more jobs and Patchogue would become the show place of the south shore.
Now let the liberal trash say OH how could you say this as they run to there homes in there nice neighborhoods where the only way that they see these criminal illegals is when they cut there grass,and then they lock there doors, and would not even offer them a drink of water from there garden hose.What liberal hypocrites.
Dirk

Bayport, NY

#12 Jan 22, 2009
OhWellShitHappens wrote:
<quoted text>
With regard to your art/culture suggestion, are you suggesting a fine arts and cultural center in the heart of Patchogue? From what Iíve seen in Patchogue, the majority of people there donít seem to be the type to spend a day admiring the works of Picasso, da Vinci, Monet or any of the other greats..
No they don't, but I bet they'll be in the parking lot ripping off your car or waiting for you wife! Get the scum out first. Whats their next move build a playground next to the sex offender trailers.
Someone

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Jan 22, 2009
If you morons are so obsessed with the illegal immigrants, why don't you marry them? They won't be illegal anymore and you'll satisfy your obsession. It's better than waiting 15-30 YEARS for the American government to move their butts.

There are bigger things to worry about.
Curious George Rules

Bridgeport, CT

#14 Jan 22, 2009
Someone wrote:
If you morons are so obsessed with the illegal immigrants, why don't you marry them? They won't be illegal anymore and you'll satisfy your obsession. It's better than waiting 15-30 YEARS for the American government to move their butts.
There are bigger things to worry about.
Your an idiot in denial,since much of the economic downturn due to tax increases is caused by these felons and besides we don't want to marry them would not want to be related to you.
Bonacker

Port Washington, NY

#15 Jan 22, 2009
OhWellShitHappens wrote:
<quoted text>
While I agree that people spend money and cars donít, people donít like to lug around packages. The area is also not large enough to draw large crowds either.
With regard to your art/culture suggestion, are you suggesting a fine arts and cultural center in the heart of Patchogue? From what Iíve seen in Patchogue, the majority of people there donít seem to be the type to spend a day admiring the works of Picasso, da Vinci, Monet or any of the other greats. Thereís also a slim chance that the same people would be in attendance to hear the works of Beethoven, Mozart or Bach. Aside from that, what culture originated from that town? Itís not like weíre talking about Rome, Paris or New York.
When I want culture, like most people, Iíll hop a train to Manhattan to be exposed to more culture than one can appreciate in a lifetime. Patchogue will never be on my list of cultural experiences. Iíd rather spend a weekend in Hanover, PA to admire the snack capitol of the world.
The best thing they can do for themselves is to get rid of the illegals and clean up the area so that maybe it can once again become an average respectable neighborhood.
Haha, I was waiting for the moronic up-island Nassau County people who have never spent a real second in Patchogue Village to show up. I am very happy people like you dont go to Patchogue. The art scene in Patchogue is actually quite strong, however you wouldnt know because you "hop a train" into the city, like every other stereotypical Long Island goofball. The space isnt large enough?? Patchogue has one of the largest downtowns on Long Island, the groundwork is all there, which is why it is perfect for revitalization, and the history has been well preserved, unlike some up-island dump filled with tacky mid-century structures and vinyl and faux-brick facades. I am excited for these hotel plans, although I do hope they work to fit the character of the area and not build some high-rise.
liner

Hicksville, NY

#16 Jan 22, 2009
Someone wrote:
If you morons are so obsessed with the illegal immigrants, why don't you marry them? They won't be illegal anymore and you'll satisfy your obsession. It's better than waiting 15-30 YEARS for the American government to move their butts.
There are bigger things to worry about.
Sorry, don't know about you, but most of the Long Islanders I know think illegal immigration is one of the top problems here. I agree, the feds won't be doing anything about it for the forseeable future, so your solution is for us to marry them? Ain't happenin.
Dirk

Bayport, NY

#17 Jan 22, 2009
WTF wrote:
Maybe Riverhead will follow in Patchogue's footsteps now. It baffles the mind how the jewel of the East End hasn't followed suit.
Did you say jewel of the east end? Lets walk around there at night, or during a weekend afternoon, ain't no diamonds there! Where do you people come from , do you ever leave your house and see what is going on?

Since: Nov 08

Port Washington, NY

#18 Jan 22, 2009
Bonacker wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha, I was waiting for the moronic up-island Nassau County people who have never spent a real second in Patchogue Village to show up. I am very happy people like you dont go to Patchogue. The art scene in Patchogue is actually quite strong, however you wouldnt know because you "hop a train" into the city, like every other stereotypical Long Island goofball. The space isnt large enough?? Patchogue has one of the largest downtowns on Long Island, the groundwork is all there, which is why it is perfect for revitalization, and the history has been well preserved, unlike some up-island dump filled with tacky mid-century structures and vinyl and faux-brick facades. I am excited for these hotel plans, although I do hope they work to fit the character of the area and not build some high-rise.
Good post. Most people have a lot to say about Patchogue but it's only what they've gleaned from Newsday or other sources; not from actually knowing and experiencing the town either back in the day or now.

I'm not a big fan of overdevelopment, especially in historic towns like Patchogue, but I do recognize the need for revitalization.

It was not too long ago that Patchogue was a collection of soaped-over windows, sad goodbyes (Swezey's) and was even the subject of an indy film in the early 90's shown at the Long Island Film Festival. The old lace mill was still there at the time of filming and was a focal point.

Those who don't know the history of Patchogue and only reduce it to issues of immigration are sadly misinformed.

I must say I'm wistful for the old Patchogue, but the show must go on and so I'm all for the revitalization.

Here's a link to another forum not too long ago, regarding The Pine Grove Restaurant in Patchoge turning 100 years old.

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/newsday/TL4...
Curious George Rules

Bridgeport, CT

#19 Jan 22, 2009
Dirk wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you say jewel of the east end? Lets walk around there at night, or during a weekend afternoon, ain't no diamonds there! Where do you people come from , do you ever leave your house and see what is going on?
I could not agree with you more,what planet does this idiot reside in.
Riverhead a JEWEL,the only thing that sparkles in Riverhead is the chrome rims on the illegal aliens honda's.

Since: Nov 08

Port Washington, NY

#20 Jan 22, 2009
Dirk wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you say jewel of the east end? Lets walk around there at night, or during a weekend afternoon, ain't no diamonds there! Where do you people come from , do you ever leave your house and see what is going on?
No one said there's diamonds. And yes, it is a jewel. A jewel in need of polishing, but a jewel just the same...

I have no qualms walking around Patchogue during the day. Just what the heck do you think is going to happen to you? What in God's name are you so afraid of? Fear is so...crippling. Don't you think? And unwarranted in this case.

I wouldn't suggest walking around ANYWHERE at night, unless you're with someone or in a well-lit area. Other than that, I don't see your point.
guy

Yorktown Heights, NY

#21 Jan 22, 2009
Rob Loscalzo, chief operating officer for TRITEC Real Estate Co. of East Setauket, said their project could well be a prototype for all Long Island. "This kind of stuff is happening all over the country but it hasn't happened here," he said. "Would you rather stay in a hotel on the Long Island Expressway or one in a downtown where you can walk to restaurants or theater?"
I like this comment becuse it makes sense, i'd rather stay somewhere where I could walk down the sidewalk to get dinner or maybe see a show. It's a win win situation.

Since: Nov 08

Port Washington, NY

#22 Jan 22, 2009
guy wrote:
Rob Loscalzo, chief operating officer for TRITEC Real Estate Co. of East Setauket, said their project could well be a prototype for all Long Island. "This kind of stuff is happening all over the country but it hasn't happened here," he said. "Would you rather stay in a hotel on the Long Island Expressway or one in a downtown where you can walk to restaurants or theater?"
I like this comment becuse it makes sense, i'd rather stay somewhere where I could walk down the sidewalk to get dinner or maybe see a show. It's a win win situation.
I agree.

“say what you mean...”

Since: Nov 07

and mean what you say.

#23 Jan 22, 2009
Ken Hansen Brookhaven wrote:
My suggestions:
Step #1. Close off Main Street completely and turn it into a pedestrian mall and put the roads to the north and south of the Village.
Reason: Cars don't buy things - people do.
Step #2. Install at least one if not three fine art museums and use those as your anchor(s). Planners: You don't need a major department store anchor.
Reason: Culture brings big bucks to anywhere. Everyone benefits - not just the "major anchor" tenant. Just count the neighborhoods in the world where the attraction of culture brings loads of tourists with loads of money.
I gave these ideas to Patchogue Government in the 80's during the last century. And they're still thinking about what to do THIRTY YEARS LATER!!!.
But duh - dis is Long Giland! Can the Roes and the Swezeys please go home now and stay out of this?
Thanks for listening.....
freeport, in fact, tried your step #1 with their main street. didn't work.

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