Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

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Old Guy wrote:
So, Pops, here's the short version: Republicans passed laws to address a non-existent problem, which had the effect of suppressing votes of groups that tend to vote Democratic.
If, when the Democrats are in power at the state level and they decide to limit polling places to cities (to save money of course!) However, it might have the result that rural folks (which tend to vote Republican) might be "too lazy" to drive into the city to vote and that would benefit the Democrats.
Would that distress you?
Lazy people live everywhere & I don't want lazy people voting. They would tend to expand the list of freebies that could NOT exist if not for the workers.
I have already addressed the rural voter's ID issue & how to improve it so address that or move on to something else. Another facet or something.
But in the same thought process as your claim that Repubs wrote & passed tilted laws, the same can properly be said about Dems & the ACA. BOTH are examples of why there is so much polarization today.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Lazy people live everywhere & I don't want lazy people voting. They would tend to expand the list of freebies that could NOT exist if not for the workers.
I have already addressed the rural voter's ID issue & how to improve it so address that or move on to something else. Another facet or something.
But in the same thought process as your claim that Repubs wrote & passed tilted laws, the same can properly be said about Dems & the ACA. BOTH are examples of why there is so much polarization today.
You're full of it, remember when election day was a day off to go vote. Not into today's world.
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Old Guy wrote:
So, Pops, here's the short version: Republicans passed laws to address a non-existent problem, which had the effect of suppressing votes of groups that tend to vote Democratic.
If, when the Democrats are in power at the state level and they decide to limit polling places to cities (to save money of course!) However, it might have the result that rural folks (which tend to vote Republican) might be "too lazy" to drive into the city to vote and that would benefit the Democrats.
Would that distress you?
But. that's not what channel Foxbaugh straight from Camp Sabotage told them.
Old Guy

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Old Guy wrote:
If, when the Democrats are in power at the state level and they decide to limit polling places to cities (to save money of course!) However, it might have the result that rural folks (which tend to vote Republican) might be "too lazy" to drive into the city to vote and that would benefit the Democrats.
Would that distress you?
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Lazy people live everywhere & I don't want lazy people voting.
So, you would be OK with rural voters being disenfranchised? I don't like it at all. But I don't like laws designed to suppress the vote, no matter which party it favors.
xxxrayted

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<quoted text>You're full of it, remember when election day was a day off to go vote. Not into today's world.
In todays world, your employer must allow you time to vote if your state doesn't have absentee ballots that anybody can use.
Old Guy

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woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You're full of it, remember when election day was a day off to go vote. Not into today's world.
Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote. Free transportation to the voting site and back home. And (just to show how sympathetic I am to those that worry about voter fraud) everyone gets a photo ID, totally free and available everywhere. Any documentation costs fall upon the government, and not the individual. Are my Republican friends with me?
xxxrayted

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woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>But. that's not what channel Foxbaugh straight from Camp Sabotage told them.
Correct. They told us that if a white person can get an ID to vote, there's no reason why a black person can't do the same. Pretty stupid, huh?

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Don't black folks in larger metro areas all go vote at least once in every poling station already? What more could they want??? If anyone begs to differ they just call in the black panther van o thugs approved by the attorney general himself!

“LIBERALISM WILL DOOM AMERICA”

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UdintBuildThat wrote:
Don't black folks in larger metro areas all go vote at least once in every poling station already? What more could they want??? If anyone begs to differ they just call in the black panther van o thugs approved by the attorney general himself!
ZAP!!!

“LIBERALISM WILL DOOM AMERICA”

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Old Guy wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote. Free transportation to the voting site and back home. And (just to show how sympathetic I am to those that worry about voter fraud) everyone gets a photo ID, totally free and available everywhere. Any documentation costs fall upon the government, and not the individual. Are my Republican friends with me?
YEP, but your "demo friends" are not likely to be with you.
xxxrayted

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Old Guy wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote. Free transportation to the voting site and back home. And (just to show how sympathetic I am to those that worry about voter fraud) everyone gets a photo ID, totally free and available everywhere. Any documentation costs fall upon the government, and not the individual. Are my Republican friends with me?
Only if they get a "free" pizza on the way to the polls.
Pops

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woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You're full of it, remember when election day was a day off to go vote. Not into today's world.
I'm full of it? WOW. Thanx for the reminder. Yes I remember when election was a day off, like TODAY! All the more reason that more people can get to the polls. And ALL the more reason that there are fewer excuses NOT to make it.
In fact, let's make election day a state AND federal holiday from work & even fewer people would have an excuse. Of course food service & health care workers etc would still have to work but again, keep the polls open 5am - 8pm & there would be almost no excuses. Good idea Woo-Boy.
Pops

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Old Guy wrote:
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So, you would be OK with rural voters being disenfranchised? I don't like it at all. But I don't like laws designed to suppress the vote, no matter which party it favors.
I didn't say that at all. Please re-read my post.
You & I are not that far apart
Pops

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Old Guy wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote. Free transportation to the voting site and back home. And (just to show how sympathetic I am to those that worry about voter fraud) everyone gets a photo ID, totally free and available everywhere. Any documentation costs fall upon the government, and not the individual. Are my Republican friends with me?
You can't make voting mandatory. That's a Violation of the 1st amendment. BUT that's an interesting idea.
Old Guy

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Old Guy wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote.
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You can't make voting mandatory. That's a Violation of the 1st amendment. BUT that's an interesting idea.
Here's the full text of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

What part of that would prohibit making voting mandatory?
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Old Guy wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Make election day a national holiday. And make voting mandatory, with a $500 fine if you fail to vote. Free transportation to the voting site and back home. And (just to show how sympathetic I am to those that worry about voter fraud) everyone gets a photo ID, totally free and available everywhere. Any documentation costs fall upon the government, and not the individual. Are my Republican friends with me?
DON W SOUTH wrote:
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YEP, but your "demo friends" are not likely to be with you.
I'm pretty sure that action would favor the Democrats. But let the chips fall where they may. And thank you for your support!
YourDaughterLove sCanton

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<quoted text>I didn't say that at all. Please re-read my post.
You & I are not that far apart
I can almost hear you gumming that microwaved can of peas. Obama is the reason your VCR has flashed 12:00 for 11 years.
YourDaughterLove sCanton

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I can't speak for every state But of course the pathway for an ID should not be insurmountable or overly difficult. I totally agree with that. IF a law has notable flaws it should be refined. Any of those laws should be litigated specifically. Not the 'scatter gun' nuclear tactics being argued today.
I won't argue the 'small numbers' of voter fraud happening. But I will compare it to shoplifting. Just because few people shop lift, should we dismiss fighting it?
Then there are the near countless peoples that live in small communities where elections are won & lost by single digit numbers. I once lived in such a place for years. Elections with an eight vote difference & There was a 50 vote or less difference many times.
I think googly eyed old kooks like you shouldn't be aloud to vote or drive. Bedtime for you, Bonzo.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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In todays world, your employer must allow you time to vote if your state doesn't have absentee ballots that anybody can use.
Really, like where? I've never heard of that law. I have heard of employers making people work surprise, unscheduled overtime on election day though.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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Correct. They told us that if a white person can get an ID to vote, there's no reason why a black person can't do the same. Pretty stupid, huh?
Those fumes from your truck must affect your attention span or reading comprehension. You've been shown different examples of supposed fraud and some of fraud, but you're little mind chooses to ignore and deny the facts. Prime example of a blind follower of the flock.

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