Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Pops

Loveland, OH

#32599 Aug 10, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Yah, Israel has always been there when America needed them. I seem to forget when that was. Would you remind us what Israel has done for the United States of America?
Israel doing for the U.S.? How about staying OUT of the efforts to free Kuwait even tho Saddam was firing Scud after Scud Directly at Israel killing Israeli civilians, keeping the U.S. out of the raid of Entebbe? Or the air craft bombing of Iraq's nuclear facility.
Then there's the hi-jacked Italian cruise ship in the Med when a man in a wheel chair was 'rolled' overboard.. I'll wager that the state Of Israel assisted on that one too
Canton, Get your crayons out & go play on a different level.
You are out of your league here unless you are simply trolling
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32600 Aug 10, 2014
Pops wrote:
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Bush 'gave'$10,000,000 for a 10 year period & Jack Wagons protested on Pennsylvania Ave wanting more.
QUIT having illecit unprotected sex & AIDS will go away!!!!!!
Why should MY & YOUR tax dollars go to cover sexual IDIOTS!!! NO reason whatsoever.
Reap what one sows.
I agree and think it was nothing but trying to buy friendship with the black community. Sure worked out well for Republicans, hasn't it?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32601 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Negotiated with the Iraqi government that didn't want us there anymore. Crikey, you wingnuts' memories are as short as they are revisionary.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Exit_str...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32602 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Investigate? It's a war. People get attacked. Only crazed conspiracy theorist nutjobs think there is anything to investigate.
Or the probability that Zero doesn't want to know why Seal Team Six's helicopter was attacked.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#32603 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
Your point?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#32604 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Or the probability that Zero doesn't want to know why Seal Team Six's helicopter was attacked.
What? It was attacked because that's what happens in war.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#32605 Aug 10, 2014
Pops wrote:
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Bush 'gave'$10,000,000 for a 10 year period & Jack Wagons protested on Pennsylvania Ave wanting more.
QUIT having illecit unprotected sex & AIDS will go away!!!!!!
Why should MY & YOUR tax dollars go to cover sexual IDIOTS!!! NO reason whatsoever.
Reap what one sows.
soooo, your sex is better than their sex, eh? How about your drinkin?

woof
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32606 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Your point?
Point is (according to this site) that Bush never really gave a set date to leave Iraq. But even if he did, no President can tell a future President what to do in his administration.

DumBama pulled our troops out of Iraq making it a terrorist hotbed for political expediency. Don't blame Bush for that like you on the left do for everything else. It's nearly six years later. It's no longer Bush's fault.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32607 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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What? It was attacked because that's what happens in war.
Especially when the administration announces who was the culprit behind taking out their glorious leader. This is on top of the fact that Zero promised some of the family members that he would find out what exactly happened.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32608 Aug 10, 2014
Pops wrote:
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The FIRST U.S. foreign war was while Jefferson was president was against the Barbary Pirates that WE were paying 'tribute' to which were Muslims.
We did NOT have allegeinces nor aggressions toward Egypt, Turkey, Sardinia, Cyprus, & other nations. BUT the Muslims in general were anti anyone NOT Muslim.
It has only gotten worse in today's scenerio.
Do NOT close your eyes. YOU & others will be speaking Arabic some time down the road.
Pops, when a guy like you suddenly starts talking about the Barbary pirates and 18th Century history, it's a pretty safe bet that they are not your original observations.

I'm guessing that you listen to Michael Medved. That's from a piece he did in 2008, which was his attempt to justify the Iraq war on a historical basis, using a a barely remembered bit of U.S. history to make his dubious points.

Just remember that you are repeating a very slanted history you learned from a conservative talk radio host.

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/...
Pops

Loveland, OH

#32609 Aug 11, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Pops, when a guy like you suddenly starts talking about the Barbary pirates and 18th Century history, it's a pretty safe bet that they are not your original observations.
I'm guessing that you listen to Michael Medved. That's from a piece he did in 2008, which was his attempt to justify the Iraq war on a historical basis, using a a barely remembered bit of U.S. history to make his dubious points.
Just remember that you are repeating a very slanted history you learned from a conservative talk radio host.
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/...
Actually we fought the Barbary Pirates in the 19th century. We paid them extortion money & bribes B4 that. IF my goal was to simply to 'justify' as you put it I could have gone back to the multiple Crusades.
I have been a reader of history all of my life & have certainly forgotten more than I remember so when something re-interest me, I do a search today..
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#32610 Aug 11, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Point is (according to this site) that Bush never really gave a set date to leave Iraq. But even if he did, no President can tell a future President what to do in his administration.
DumBama pulled our troops out of Iraq making it a terrorist hotbed for political expediency. Don't blame Bush for that like you on the left do for everything else. It's nearly six years later. It's no longer Bush's fault.
It's no wonder that the only jobs you could ever get is being a delivery boy.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#32611 Aug 11, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Point is (according to this site) that Bush never really gave a set date to leave Iraq. But even if he did, no President can tell a future President what to do in his administration.
DumBama pulled our troops out of Iraq making it a terrorist hotbed for political expediency. Don't blame Bush for that like you on the left do for everything else. It's nearly six years later. It's no longer Bush's fault.
This is one of those "thinky" things that you will never understand. Is going into Iraq in the first place no longer Bush's fault because it's been 11 years?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#32612 Aug 11, 2014
Pops wrote:
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Actually we fought the Barbary Pirates in the 19th century. We paid them extortion money & bribes B4 that. IF my goal was to simply to 'justify' as you put it I could have gone back to the multiple Crusades.
I have been a reader of history all of my life & have certainly forgotten more than I remember so when something re-interest me, I do a search today..
Now you are just throwing out random history nuggets that have nothing to do with the subject at hand? You may be in the early stages of dementia.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32613 Aug 11, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Pops, when a guy like you suddenly starts talking about the Barbary pirates and 18th Century history, it's a pretty safe bet that they are not your original observations.
Pops wrote:
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Actually we fought the Barbary Pirates in the 19th century.
Our conflict with the Barbary powers started in the late 18th Century.

"Morocco, which in 1777 was the first independent nation to publicly recognize the United States, became in 1784 the first Barbary power to seize an American vessel after independence. The Barbary threat led directly to the creation of the United States Navy in March 1794."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

The two Barbary Wars occurred just after the turn of the century.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32614 Aug 11, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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This is one of those "thinky" things that you will never understand. Is going into Iraq in the first place no longer Bush's fault because it's been 11 years?
So any mistakes any President after Bush makes is going to be Bush's fault forever?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32615 Aug 11, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>It's no wonder that the only jobs you could ever get is being a delivery boy.
It's no wonder you are just a pathetic troll.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32616 Aug 11, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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So any mistakes any President after Bush makes is going to be Bush's fault forever?
No, but George W. Bush is directly responsible for our involvement in Iraq. Obama would not be involved in Iraq today, except for Bush's choice to invade.

Nixon inherited the Vietnam war from Lyndon Johnson, who had greatly expanded our involvement in that war. Just because Nixon took office didn't mean that Johnson's actions were forgotten. Nixon made his own mistakes, but Johnson was responsible for a lot of needless deaths. So is George W. Bush.

There's no statute of limitations when it comes to the lingering effects of bad decisions.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#32617 Aug 11, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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So any mistakes any President after Bush makes is going to be Bush's fault forever?
How did you get that from what I wrote? The mere passage of time does not shift responsibility from one person to another. You seem to suggest that W. is now absolved from all responsibility from decisions he made simply because time has passed. That's stupid. I'm not blaming Bush for what Obama has done. I'm blaming Bush for what Bush did.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#32618 Aug 11, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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No, but George W. Bush is directly responsible for our involvement in Iraq. Obama would not be involved in Iraq today, except for Bush's choice to invade.
Nixon inherited the Vietnam war from Lyndon Johnson, who had greatly expanded our involvement in that war. Just because Nixon took office didn't mean that Johnson's actions were forgotten. Nixon made his own mistakes, but Johnson was responsible for a lot of needless deaths. So is George W. Bush.
There's no statute of limitations when it comes to the lingering effects of bad decisions.
Thanks for saying it more artfully than I did.

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