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Old Guy

Mason, OH

#31119 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Another thing the 103 congress that passed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act was under Democrat Control of both houses and talk about misrepresentation of the facts.
103rd United States Congress
Senate Majority: Democratic Party
House Majority: Democratic Party
Duration: January 3, 1993 – January 3, 1995
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/103rd_United_Sta...
Yes, but there were only 3 nay votes on the Act, all cast in the Senate: Harlan Matthews (D), Robert Byrd (D), and Jesse Helms (R). Only one Congressional Republican voted against it. Explain to me how this is some kind of liberal conspiracy.

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#31120 Jul 6, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
"Along with Dean Gallo of New Jersey, McKeon introduced the Religious Freedom Restoration Act on March 11, 1993. McKeon is a member of the Republican Study Committee."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_McKeon
"103RD CONGRESS
1ST SESSION
H.R. 1308
To Protect the free exercise of religion.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
March 11, 1993
[co-sponsors]
Mr. MCKEON, and Mr. GALLO introduced the following bill, which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary."
http://prop1.org/legal/rfra.htm
Incorporation of the Bill of Rights

Guarantee of free exercise of religion
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of...

H.R.1308
Latest Title: Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993
Sponsor: Rep Schumer, Charles E.[NY-9](introduced 3/11/1993) Cosponsors (170)
Related Bills: S.578
Latest Major Action: 11/16/1993 Became Public Law No: 103-141.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z... :@@@S
Canton

Canton, OH

#31121 Jul 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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HTF could anybody buy a SC seat? Can you explain that one?
Big money is in both parties, not just the Republicans. As I pointed out so often, there are plenty of wealthy Democrats in this country. DumBama set records in political campaign contributions and it certainly didn't happen by the homeless, SNAP's cards people and Obama phone users. Where do you think all that "Obama money" came from anyway?
We're not talking about campaign donations for a politician. We're talking about Supreme Court Justices Thomas and Scalia attending exclusive Koch Brother meetings and the undeniable fact that the Supreme Court suddenly began siding with corporations a whole lot more.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31122 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Today's Liberalism is based on bigotry is its problem and the Liberals know all about the Unabomber just ask Liberal Democrat Bill Ayers who perfected it.
The Weather Underground Organization (WUO), commonly known as the Weather Underground, was an American radical left organization founded on the Ann Arbor campus of the University of Michigan. Originally called Weatherman, the group became known colloquially as the Weathermen. Weatherman organized in 1969 as a faction of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) composed for the most part of the national office leadership of SDS and their supporters. Their goal was to create a clandestine revolutionary party for the overthrow of the U.S. government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Undergro...
That has nothing to do with what we were discussing. I have discovered that if you can't post a Wikipedia link, you are completely incapable of a discussion.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31123 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>You just made my point about the Liberal Thinking.
My asking you what the point was you were trying to make by your statement proves your point about liberal thinking? How so?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31124 Jul 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And that has nothing to do with the First Amendment?
Provisions[edit]
This law reinstated the Sherbert Test, which was set forth by Sherbert v. Verner, and Wisconsin v. Yoder, mandating that strict scrutiny be used when determining whether the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, guaranteeing religious freedom, has been violated. In the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Congress states in its findings that a religiously neutral law can burden a religion just as much as one that was intended to interfere with religion;[1] therefore the Act states that the “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability.”[3] The law provided an exception if two conditions are both met. First, the burden must be necessary for the “furtherance of a compelling government interest.”[3] Under strict scrutiny, a government interest is compelling when it is more than routine and does more than simply improve government efficiency. A compelling interest relates directly with core constitutional issues.[4] The second condition is that the rule must be the least restrictive way in which to further the government interest. The law, in conjunction with President Bill Clinton's Executive Order in 1996, provided more security for sacred sites for Native American religious rites.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedo...
Key words here:
"mandating that strict scrutiny be used when determining whether the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution"
"A compelling interest relates directly with core constitutional issues."
None of that changes the fact that the Hobby Lobby case was not decided on First Amendment grounds. What is it with you people?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31125 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Because the US Constitutions Bill of Rights do not pretain to the states and only to the Federal Government which the Liberal Democrats knew and is how they restricted the Rights of the Blacks in the South after the Civil War and it was a series of SCOTUS cases that incorporated the US Constitution's Bill of Rights down to the state level and yes it was a 1st Amendment issue under case law and you are also wrong about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which was Introduced in the House as H.R. 1308 by Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on March 11, 1993 and right in the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedo...
Incorporation of the Bill of Rights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of...
Holy Schizophrenia, Batman.

Since: Aug 11

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#31126 Jul 6, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
That has nothing to do with what we were discussing. I have discovered that if you can't post a Wikipedia link, you are completely incapable of a discussion.
You have proven to everyone even with this post that you are incapable of a discussion especially when the facts are dealt in front of you and that is your problem you dont like the facts posted.
half breed

Lima, OH

#31127 Jul 6, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
None of that changes the fact that the Hobby Lobby case was not decided on First Amendment grounds. What is it with you people?
What did you expect? If he had good critical thinking skills and was able to admit his past mistakes, he probably wouldn't be a diabetic, uninsured, overpaid, racist gofer.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31128 Jul 6, 2014
half breed wrote:
<quoted text>What did you expect? If he had good critical thinking skills and was able to admit his past mistakes, he probably wouldn't be a diabetic, uninsured, overpaid, racist gofer.
If your mother had better critical thinking skills, she wouldn't have adopted an idiot.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31129 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>You have proven to everyone even with this post that you are incapable of a discussion especially when the facts are dealt in front of you and that is your problem you dont like the facts posted.
Your "facts" have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Your posts about the incorporation of rights by the 14th amendment has as much to do with the Hobby Lobby case as if you posted about which teams remain in the World Cup.

Since: Aug 11

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#31130 Jul 6, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
None of that changes the fact that the Hobby Lobby case was not decided on First Amendment grounds. What is it with you people?
What is it with you Liberals that is exactly what was at issue, Hobby Lobby's 1st Amendment Rights but being tested & scrutinized under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act unfortunately instead of the US Constitution which proved Hobby Lobby's 1st amendment Rights were being violated by the Liberal's Obamacare which the Liberals Lost.

Since: Aug 11

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#31131 Jul 6, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but there were only 3 nay votes on the Act, all cast in the Senate: Harlan Matthews (D), Robert Byrd (D), and Jesse Helms (R). Only one Congressional Republican voted against it. Explain to me how this is some kind of liberal conspiracy.
Liberals proposed it.

Since: Aug 11

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#31132 Jul 6, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>My asking you what the point was you were trying to make by your statement proves your point about liberal thinking? How so?
go back and read.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31133 Jul 6, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
No the general issues involved do involve the First Amendment. However, the Hobby Lobby decision wasn't decided based on the First Amendment, but on the RFRA. That is very obvious from reading the decision, as has been spelled out above.
But the Religious Freedom act already dealt with the First Amendment.

Since: Aug 11

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#31134 Jul 6, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Holy Schizophrenia, Batman.
Facts you do not like which is obvious.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31135 Jul 6, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not talking about campaign donations for a politician. We're talking about Supreme Court Justices Thomas and Scalia attending exclusive Koch Brother meetings and the undeniable fact that the Supreme Court suddenly began siding with corporations a whole lot more.
So what are you suggesting? Bribery?
half breed

Lima, OH

#31136 Jul 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
If your mother had better critical thinking skills, she wouldn't have adopted an idiot.
I always love having my intelligence "insulted" by an uneducated, uninsured trucker with an IQ of maybe 70.
Keep up the good work, xxxteatard...
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31137 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>What is it with you Liberals that is exactly what was at issue, Hobby Lobby's 1st Amendment Rights but being tested & scrutinized under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act unfortunately instead of the US Constitution which proved Hobby Lobby's 1st amendment Rights were being violated by the Liberal's Obamacare which the Liberals Lost.
Wow. There is just so much wrong in that post. Well, I gave it a shot. It is sad that you insist on remaining ignorant.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Akron, OH

#31138 Jul 6, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Facts you do not like which is obvious.
Facts that have nothing to do with the discussion. You change subjects faster than a 4 year old.

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