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#24320 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Having douche bags distort what I've plainly said and me lying are two different things. I've backed up every claim I've made or admitted to and corrected errors. You, on the other hand, won't answer one simple question: Without proof of actual Ice Age data from millions/billions of years ago for comparison, why should your hairball ideas be forced on the entire country and the world -- especially in light of the fact that scientists and meteorologists are skeptical of man-made global warming claims?
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I don't think the GOP and the pope approve of you any more than they do me, which will probably make you cry, since you value their opinions so much.
As far as "Obama and the liberals" go, Obama couldn't give a rat's ass about blacks. He's a liberal. The only time he cares about race, is if he can use it to pit people against each other to further his agenda.
Obama's own family lives in squalor in Africa, but he doesn't lift a finger to help them. He also promised to fix up a primitive school in Africa that some of his own family members attend. They never heard from him again. So, if he isn't even going to help his own family, he sure isn't going to help the blacks here, and that explains why the unemployment rate for blacks is through the roof and he's not doing anything about it. Obama cares about Obama. You're a tool.
Yet George Bush Jr. very quietly and without fanfare, took on AIDS in Africia and almost eradicated the spread of the disease.

Hmmmm, libs lie for political reward and conservatives cure for humanitarian reasons.

And don't forget "what difference does it make" Hillary.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24321 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Without proof of actual Ice Age data from millions/billions of years ago for comparison, why should your hairball ideas be forced on the entire country and the world...?
An ice core is a core sample that is typically removed from an ice sheet, most commonly from the polar ice caps of Antarctica, Greenland or from high mountain glaciers elsewhere. As the ice forms from the incremental build up of annual layers of snow, lower layers are older than upper, and an ice core contains ice formed over a range of years. The properties of the ice and the recrystallized inclusions within the ice can then be used to reconstruct a climatic record over the age range of the core, normally through isotopic analysis. This enables the reconstruction of local temperature records and the history of atmospheric composition."

Ice cores contain an abundance of information about climate. Inclusions in the snow of each year remain in the ice, such as wind-blown dust, ash, bubbles of atmospheric gas and radioactive substances. The variety of climatic proxies is greater than in any other natural recorder of climate, such as tree rings or sediment layers. These include (proxies for) temperature, ocean volume, precipitation, chemistry and gas composition of the lower atmosphere, volcanic eruptions, solar variability, sea-surface productivity, desert extent and forest fires.

The length of the record depends on the depth of the ice core and varies from a few years up to 800 kyr (800,000 years) for the EPICA core."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24322 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Without proof of actual Ice Age data from millions/billions of years ago for comparison, why should your hairball ideas be forced on the entire country and the world -- especially in light of the fact that scientists and meteorologists are skeptical of man-made global warming claims?
"Statement on climate change from 18 scientific associations

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)


American Association for the Advancement of Science

"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)


American Chemical Society

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)


American Geophysical Union

"Human&#8208;induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)


American Medical Association

"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)

American Meteorological Society

"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)


American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)

The Geological Society of America

"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse&#8208;gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES

International academies: Joint statement

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)


U.S. National Academy of Sciences

"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24324 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Without proof of actual Ice Age data from millions/billions of years ago for comparison, why should your hairball ideas be forced on the entire country and the world?
"An ice core is a core sample that is typically removed from an ice sheet, most commonly from the polar ice caps of Antarctica, Greenland or from high mountain glaciers elsewhere. As the ice forms from the incremental build up of annual layers of snow, lower layers are older than upper, and an ice core contains ice formed over a range of years. The properties of the ice and the recrystallized inclusions within the ice can then be used to reconstruct a climatic record over the age range of the core, normally through isotopic analysis. This enables the reconstruction of local temperature records and the history of atmospheric composition.

Ice cores contain an abundance of information about climate. Inclusions in the snow of each year remain in the ice, such as wind-blown dust, ash, bubbles of atmospheric gas and radioactive substances. The variety of climatic proxies is greater than in any other natural recorder of climate, such as tree rings or sediment layers. These include (proxies for) temperature, ocean volume, precipitation, chemistry and gas composition of the lower atmosphere, volcanic eruptions, solar variability, sea-surface productivity, desert extent and forest fires.

The length of the record depends on the depth of the ice core and varies from a few years up to 800 kyr (800,000 years) for the EPICA core. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24325 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Without proof of actual Ice Age data from millions/billions of years ago for comparison, why should your hairball ideas be forced on the entire country and the world -- especially in light of the fact that scientists and meteorologists are skeptical of man-made global warming claims?
How about a list of scientific organizations that support your point of view? Here's a list of those that support man-made global warming:

"AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES

Statement on climate change from 18 scientific associations

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

American Association for the Advancement of Science

"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

American Chemical Society

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

American Geophysical Union

"Human&#8208;induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

American Medical Association

"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

American Meteorological Society

"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

The Geological Society of America

"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse&#8208;gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES

International academies: Joint statement

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

U.S. National Academy of Sciences

"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11"

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
Climate Change

Chillicothe, OH

#24326 Jan 22, 2014
What I want to know is what have you, screaming the loudest, done in your own lives to mitigate climate change. Posting links on Topix is doing nothing. Preaching unsustainable alternatives is doing nothing.

When you make a real and changing lifestyle change, then I'll listen. Until then you're just telling me to change.

“ I AGITATE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#24327 Jan 22, 2014
I supported JOHN KASICH.
Pops

Newport, KY

#24328 Jan 22, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Here’s the math:
In October, CMS Spokeswoman Julie Bataille said the total obligated for IT costs associated with the federal marketplace was “in the neighborhood of about $630 million.” Speaking on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said the number is now $677 million.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/...
Quite helpful & it answered the request.
Pops

Newport, KY

#24329 Jan 22, 2014
DoomsDayBibleBunker wrote:
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No here's the math and it's only about half of what you claim. Let's take a second to think back on all the other things you Tea Baggers have claimed on here and whether or not it turned out to be true...the word VOID comes to mind.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
Between politicians & the media we may never know the true facts. But the previous link is about 6 weeks newer than the link that you supplied. We may have something additional in another 6 weeks.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24330 Jan 22, 2014
Old Guy, haven't you read that the ice core studies, although interesting, are just guesswork? It's impossible to say how old a certain core is. And if the core can't be dated accurately, then what good is it, besides just being interesting to study?

Without real-time documentation, history isn't much use to science when it comes to proving theories. Now, if the scientists want to make themselves useful, they need to keep very close track of everything that happens with the climate in this era, so that scientists in the future will have data to compare their data to. Let's hope they don't discover that the equipment we've been using is inaccurate. Sometimes scientists find out they were mistaken, after being 100% certain they were right.

So, we're back to square one. Why should everyone's life be altered, regulated, and taxed to death, because a minority of scientists *think* the world is coming to an end? And what about those 5 other ice ages? What could have caused such extreme climate changes, I wonder?

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24331 Jan 22, 2014
Seriouslady wrote:
Yet George Bush Jr. very quietly and without fanfare, took on AIDS in Africia and almost eradicated the spread of the disease.
Hmmmm, libs lie for political reward and conservatives cure for humanitarian reasons.
And don't forget "what difference does it make" Hillary.
Bush is a decent person. He's not a conservative, unfortunately, but he's a reasonable and compassionate person who served well. Obama would have done okay if he were just half the man or the patriot that Bush is.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24332 Jan 22, 2014
Dog Warden wrote:
I see you're making new friends Super Mutt!
Lol, just posting the truth. Libtards hate that.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24333 Jan 22, 2014
DoomsDayBibleBunker wrote:
Poor little Tea Baggers just can't admit that they nearly destroyed this country with their G Bush fiasco, followed by them living in a fantasy world where science and documented history just doesn't seem to match how they feel about things. REAL Americans are so sick of you that I doubt all the corporate money in the world will ever make you relevant in this country again. For the sake of our future generations, let's hope your all white Mayberry for crude oil Jesus vision is dead and buried. If only Romney would have gotten in. Then American soldiers could have needlessly died in a war with Iran, like they did for Halliburton in the war in Iraq. Then of course you guys could ignore the cost of that war, like you do with the cost of Bush's hunt for invisible WMDs he lied to Congress and the American people about.
Oooops. You're letting your racism show again, little dumocrat butt boy. You dums have to hate some race of people at any given time. I guess it's whitey's turn, since it's illegal to hate on the blacks now.

The G Bush fiasco went like this: Libtards decided to force banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford them. G Bush warned Barney Frank (a.k.a Bawney Fwank) twice, as did others, that there was going to be a financial crisis because of it. Barney said there wasn't a pwobwem. And now you libtards have to lie to cover up the fact that you're completely incompetent.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24335 Jan 22, 2014
SpankinThatHoundDoggie wrote:
Awwww you just getting madder and madder. Quit avoiding the question, you proven liar. You thought you were going to stroll into the forum and get away with absurd claims and nothing to back it up. It's how you have probably rolled your whole life. You thought WRONG, princess.
There's a very good reason why fringe group Bible voting flunkies like you keep squawking about the end being near. It's because as far as this nation is concerned, your Tea Bagging nutball party is OVER!
Let me know when you find that link that says the majority of Americans don't believe in climate change.
Just keep lying, butt boy. That's all you've got left.
Climate Change

Chillicothe, OH

#24337 Jan 22, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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You need to familiarize yourself with the Democrat motto: Do as I say--not as I do.
That's why with all this climate change talk, Gore rides around in SUV"s, Limo's and private planes. Speaking of which, Piglosi had a special plane just for her to ride back and forth across the entire country repeatedly. When she wasn't creating that huge carbon footprint, her family was including beverages and food. Guess who wants out of Commie Care? That's right, our US Congress and their aids.
I see, so the current democrat isn't much different than the original southern democrat? They can't physically enslave blacks any longer, so they just want to financially enslave us all. Yeah, that sounds about right, they would be satisfied with a 100% tax rate so they can dole out food, clothes and shelter.

No thanks.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24339 Jan 22, 2014
Climate Change wrote:
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I see, so the current democrat isn't much different than the original southern democrat? They can't physically enslave blacks any longer, so they just want to financially enslave us all. Yeah, that sounds about right, they would be satisfied with a 100% tax rate so they can dole out food, clothes and shelter.
No thanks.
"Us?" As if you're anything but a racist right-wing honkie....LOL
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24340 Jan 22, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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You need to familiarize yourself with the Democrat motto: Do as I say--not as I do.
That's why with all this climate change talk, Gore rides around in SUV"s, Limo's and private planes. Speaking of which, Piglosi had a special plane just for her to ride back and forth across the entire country repeatedly. When she wasn't creating that huge carbon footprint, her family was including beverages and food. Guess who wants out of Commie Care? That's right, our US Congress and their aids.
A real 'greatest hits' of right-wing Denier talking-points, that was. I always know when I hear someone mention Al Gore in a global warming post that I'm reading the blather of a right-wing Denier liar....:)
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24341 Jan 22, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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You are correct about scientists being wrong all the time. I remember when they said we were having unusual amounts of forest fires and it's totally unnatural. Later they discovered that forest fires are natures way of rejuvenating the forest. Afterwards, they would still put out the fires to save homes and whatnot, but the government restarted them again under more controlled conditions.
..blah, blah....
Typical far-right, anti-science, right-wing gibberish. Hardly a single word of it true, of course.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24342 Jan 22, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Oooops. You're letting your racism show again, little dumocrat butt boy. You dums have to hate some race of people at any given time. I guess it's whitey's turn, since it's illegal to hate on the blacks now....blah, blah, blah.......
Cease the far-right Klan-style race-baiting or I'll report you, you goddam thug.
Global Warming

Chillicothe, OH

#24345 Jan 22, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
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Typical far-right, anti-science, right-wing gibberish. Hardly a single word of it true, of course.
You need to get out more, the state does controlled burns right here in Ohio forest land.

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