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Old Guy

Mason, OH

#23994 Jan 17, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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I'll ask you the same question I asked Reality Speaks --- what makes you so certain that you are correct about this very technical question? Intuition?
xxxrayted wrote:
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Real credible scientists would not agree to something that had no empirical evidence like man made global warming. It's not a fact, it's a theory. And for anybody expecting me to believe that scientists reached a concrete conclusion about a theory with no evidence has to thing I was born yesterday.
And yet I gave you a long list of organizations that represent the best and brightest of our scientists, all of which disagree with you. You may not find them credible, but how would you know? You don't have the training to make that judgment. Which goes back to my original question: "what makes you so certain that you are correct about this very technical question?" Though you didn't answer it directly, I think you did give me a clue:
xxxrayted wrote:
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It's funny you should respond to my post because of something that I heard on the Limbaugh show today.
You do understand that Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer, not a scientist? Though he likes to project the image of an educated man, the reality is that he flunked out of Southeast Missouri State University after one year. He doesn't have the intellect or the training to understand these issues any more than you (or I) do. His objections are political and emotional, and he's passing those ideas along to his vast audience. Part of his pitch is that the experts are dumb, and only "real folks" like him and his audience have true understanding. And he's glib enough to fool non-scientists.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#23996 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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This is not to mention the fact that if there was global warming, it would be consistent, not here and there.
That's a very interesting speculation, which you state as an accepted fact. What makes you think it's true?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24000 Jan 17, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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Your foundry go titsup like the Hostess union dipshits ran Hostess titsup?
Nope, but we did make parts for the M1-A tanks that our soldiers relied upon in the war. Oh, the dishonor I feel. Go lay down. hand me down. Us real men, non Putin loving Americans, were taking care of business while you were playing dirt bag Machiavelli games with your sister/cousins over who got to keep the freebie ride 400 acres. Maybe if you had EARNED what you have in life, you wouldn't seem like such an inbred clown when you cry about poor people trying to take your stuff.

By the way...who was your favorite, voice of the American people, Conservative president within your lifetime. No....Putin doesn't count, comrade.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24001 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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When the hell was Pat Buchanan a conservative hero? I don't remember that. The US Communist Party is a "fringe" group? Was the KKK a fringe group too in your mind? If the US Communist Party is a fringe group, what group is the real thing?
I never said the Communists or DumBama didn't have the right to speak out. In fact, I'm glad they both speak out. One more question: how is DumBama standing up to Russia? DumBama loves Russia, don't you remember?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XsFR8DbSRQEXX
Awwwww, you still think that not mindlessly bombing anyone who isn't a Christian so their kids kids can despise Americans for their entire lives is somehow bowing to the enemy. That's cute. Like an antique bed pan with flowers painted on it.

Obama sent an openly gay woman to represent America in the winter Olympics. He did this in the face of Putin, for him wanting the exact same human rights violations that folks like the Tea Party love so much in this country right now. Meanwhile, your camp is calling Putin a Conservative hero.

I would certainly call the US Communist Party a fringe group. Nobody I know is in it, nor anyone I have ever met in my entire life. Ever meet a racist. I bet you have.

The thing that made the KKK so popular here in America was the fact that they sold their hate pitch with the help of the Christian church, who opened their doors wide open for the KKK. Before you start trying to rewrite history, look it up. They masked their true intentions behind a thin veil of traditional Christian family values. You know, like the Tea Party conservatives do all the time. The thing that got "God' President" GW Bush elected twice. You know "God" told him to invade Iraq.

If you would like, I can set you up with a list of 15 or 20 prominent Republicans and Tea Party candidates that cashed in on Jesus and claimed "God" told them to run for office. Cheap and easy sales pitch for the already gullible. Once corporations realized all the old money just sitting there that they could tap into through these Jesus loving folks, they skipped the GOP middle man and went directly to the source. The first time I heard someone deny climate change was a Christian. Followed by about 20 more Christians repeating the same thing. All of this while the Koch Brother oil billionaires were trying to dodge blame by spending millions of dollars to refute scientific data on the subject. Next thing you know, Sarah Palin, who was being directly paid by oil billionaires, is telling her church that it's God's will to build the pipeline. Why is that so hard for you to see? What does smaller government, and lower taxes have to do with abortion or gay marriage? Nothing. Purely a Christian agenda. One you follow with no clue as to why.

The fact that Pat Buchanan based his entire career on Conservatism might have been a hint to you that he was a Conservative's conservative. Read up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
Canton

Canton, OH

#24002 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I didn't care much for Bush I because of his stance on drugs. He waged this war on drugs and busted a bunch of people selling pot. As what happens in any market, it increased the price of marijuana. Not long after is when coke became more of the in thing. The price of coke dropped because of it's new popularity and many gave up pot for coke which eventually led us into the crack era. Not only that, but it's easier to sneak in a cigar box of coke than a mattress bag of pot both selling for about the same price.
I don't advocate the use of any illegal narcotics, but I thought it was much better to have a generation of people smoking marijuana than it was to have people getting hooked on coke and it's byproducts. I will say he had the best line of any President in our time "Saddam, I'm going to kick your ass!!!" LOL!
Wasn't it Nixon who started the war on drugs? Nothing says "liberty and freedom of choice" for the American people like declaring war on it's own citizens. You rightwing guys have been at your noble battle for "freedom" for quite some time.(Also see prisons packed with non-violent, productive Americans over weed infractions at the tax payers expense).

Hey, wanna see Ronald Reagan calling American citizens less than animals for being part of the counter culture, or would you rather see Daddy Bush calling American citizens less than American for not loving Jesus? You freedom fighters are heroes in the eyes of liberty. Just like when the rightwingers were shooting into the crowds of the unarmed children of American citizens up in Kent Ohio. An obvious history of standing up to tyranny and a voice of the American people.

Since: Aug 12

Atlanta, GA

#24003 Jan 17, 2014
If you love illegal drugs so much please just go shoot yourself up with as much krokodil as you can make, Canton?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24004 Jan 17, 2014
Communist Party of the USA...

Currently, about 20,000 members.

Hello fringe group.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24006 Jan 17, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
If you love illegal drugs so much please just go shoot yourself up with as much krokodil as you can make, Canton?
Who said anything about loving illegal drugs? Is this one of your pull things out of your @ss, rightwinger schemes again? Funny though that you make reference to a drug that is well known in the Soviet Union. Get it right, you Putin loving Tea Bagging commie. Remind us how Americans feel about the marijuana your camp called Satan's gateway to heroin, and the end of civilization in America since the 50's. Did they "Just say no"? Just another example of how you are a failed relic of an America nobody wanted.

Speaking of...who was your favorite, elected by the American people, Conservative president, within your life time? Just can't seem to get an answer on what should be such an easy question, with you guys being the "silent MAJORITY" and all. So many elected voices of the Conservative majority to choose from. Who's your favorite?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24009 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Earlier you asked Reality to post something you wrote that was not factual. Since he didn't get back to you, I'll accept your invitation: Please post a credible site where either Bush said people were less than American for not loving Jesus--liar. And since when were illegal narcotics citizens in this country? And while you're at it, give us some proof that the solders at Kent State were right-wingers.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God.…" George HW Bush

No one said drugs were citizens. Show me where I stated that. Common rightwing ploy often seen on this very forum. Now the "war on drugs" here in America. Were the drugs thrown in prison in that war or was it American citizens?

Richard Nixon was the president who called in the National Guard on unarmed students in Kent in 1970. I'm sure it was one of those "hippy Liberal" types we always see joining the military who was really responsible for the shooting.

That's three strikes and you're out, son. Still though, if ANYONE can go ahead and show me where I have posted a proven lie, you let me know.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24010 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Okay, so if they are fringe, what group has more members of Communists?
Why that would be the Tea Party, comrade.

"Putin is a Conservative hero"
Canton

Canton, OH

#24011 Jan 17, 2014
That was a joke. Sorry if you were getting ready to play a weak "you lie" card.

So 20,000 members out of how many folks in America. Would you say my statement about them being a fringe group was correct?

How about that whole HW Bush thing, stating Atheists, who don't love Jesus, weren't citizens? Still want to claim I lied about that? Any of this getting through to you or are you too busy reading what your next bullsh1t outrage provided by a Tea Party emailed newsletter is going to be this week?

Strange. Don't hear a lot of Obamacare outrage lately. Wonder why? You guys were so distraught over that tyrant wanting health care coverage for poor people instead of us responsible people fitting the bill like it was in the past. Still though, that web page not instantly working would outrage any patriot who didn't make a peep about all the soldiers who needlessly died in Bush's unfounded war he lied to Congress about, back when that was happening.
wow

West Newton, PA

#24012 Jan 17, 2014
I dont cc know
Canton

Canton, OH

#24013 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I never said he wasn't a conservative, but so are a lot of Republicans--some nobody even heard of. He wasn't prominent in any way. That's like me saying Kookcinch was the quintessential of the Democrat party. You know, the guy that wanted to pass legislation so that the Cleveland Indians stayed on free television and not cable? The same guy that stopped our Coast Guard from target practice on lake erie because he was afraid the lead bullets would pollute the entire great lakes? I guess he was unaware that many people fish on shore with lead sinkers that get lost all the time.
DumBama sent a gay woman to the olympics, and that was heroic? My Lord, no wonder we are in trouble:
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/c/3/p...
Then go ahead and tell me who you think is a prominent and current Conservative. Since Pat Buchanan, a well known Conservative who dedicated his entire career to Conservatism isn't Conservative enough for you, then who?

Did I say Obama was "heroic" or did I say he was standing up to Russia? Another rightwing ploy, but we already know that. Now while Obama was basically telling the commie leader Putin to go f'ck himself, what was the Conservative view on that Pinko? Oh, that's right. They were declaring Putin as a hero.

Also, just read an article where many former gun ranges have been declared toxic due to the lead content in the soil. Let me know if you need an unbiased and scientifically sound link.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24014 Jan 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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For many years, politicians, and in particular, Democrats, have been trying to control the people of this once great country. They're pretty close now, but the two things that stopped them was they had no control over health and energy. Once they get control over both those things, they will have the tools to control all the people.
Read some of your buddy's statements earlier in this topic. If it's too hot, it's global warming, if it's too cold, it's global warming, if it's near perfect, it's global warming, if it's windy outside, it's global warming, if it's raining too much, it's global warming, if there is a drought, it's global warming, too many hurricanes, global warming, too many tornados, it's global warming. The question is, when is it not global warming?
It's funny you should respond to my post because of something that I heard on the Limbaugh show today. He played a recording of some kook out in LA when he was commenting on the fire out in California. At the end of his global warming rant, he said "make sure you tell Limbaugh." Then Limbaugh read a more recent update on the fire where they arrested three people for starting the damn thing. Supposedly, they were freezing and just wanted to stay warm. LOL!
Real credible scientists would not agree to something that had no empirical evidence like man made global warming. It's not a fact, it's a theory. And for anybody expecting me to believe that scientists reached a concrete conclusion about a theory with no evidence has to thing I was born yesterday.
This is not to mention the fact that if there was global warming, it would be consistent, not here and there. According to the extended forecast, we won't be seeing normal highs or lows for the next couple of weeks. Where is this global warming at in Cleveland?
If you were an auto manufacturer, and invented a car that would last forever and never break down, would you market such a vehicle? If you were a dentist that invented a pill that stopped cavities in anybody that took the pill, would you market it and put yourself and all your fellow dentists out of business? If not, then why would climate scientists ever admit that man has nothing to do with any climate change that we have?
But why did the Koch Brothers, who spent millions of dollars to refute global warming (also see the exact reason why a truck driver thinks he knows more than the climate scientists) suddenly and publically change their views on the subject? Was it because they hired their own independent scientists to prove climate change didn't exist and wasn't man made, only to find that they were completely wrong all along? Strange that the energy industry, who would be the main source of blame if climate change was happening and was man made, would suddenly announce that they now believe. One would think the $1300 a second that Exxon Mobile makes would be enough to fund anti-climate change propaganda for a very long time. Yet...

Since: Aug 12

Atlanta, GA

#24015 Jan 17, 2014
Look dumbass..... you suck at your rules for radicals when announcing Exxon is making $1300 per second. Tell us what their expense is per second because $1300 might be their gross but hardly what they net.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#24016 Jan 17, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Look dumbass..... you suck at your rules for radicals when announcing Exxon is making $1300 per second. Tell us what their expense is per second because $1300 might be their gross but hardly what they net.
Speaking of ExxonMobil

Once again, oil companies are biggest corporate taxpayers

Posted: January 10, 2014 by Ken Cohen

One of the more overlooked aspects of our industry is that oil and gas companies like ExxonMobil are not just big contributors to the economy, we are also really big taxpayers.

http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2014/01...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#24021 Jan 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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No problem, right here:
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there you go again with documented FACT.

The trolls are not going to like that.
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#24022 Jan 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Why my skepticism? Well the first thing one has to ask is what's in it for the people that support this climate change thing? It used to be called global warming, but then they changed it. Why? Because they found the earth hasn't really increased in temperature in some amount of years.
The second question is, where do scientists draw their paycheck from? Who funds them making sure they have a job to go to Monday morning? Follow the money.
But instead of me going on a long rant, maybe the late comedian George Carlin can answer it better than I can:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =R4XhZ1YbrjkXX
I love Geo Carlin !! NO one had such philosophical, society based skits like him.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#24023 Jan 18, 2014
I don't usually weigh in on these endless arguments, but this one is really dumb:
xxxrayted wrote:
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Earlier you asked Reality to post something you wrote that was not factual. Since he didn't get back to you, I'll accept your invitation: Please post a credible site where either Bush said people were less than American for not loving Jesus--liar. And since when were illegal narcotics citizens in this country? And while you're at it, give us some proof that the solders at Kent State were right-wingers.
xxxrayted wrote:
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No problem, right here:
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Canton wrote:
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Wasn't it Nixon who started the war on drugs? Nothing says "liberty and freedom of choice" for the American people like declaring war on it's own citizens..
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The "war on drugs" was actually a war on those that used illegal drugs. You don't imprison the drugs, you imprison the user. I know you understand this, xxxrayted. Why are you playing dumb? To try to win some kind of technical point? Give a real example of Canton misrepresenting truth (if you have one.)

And Canton did provide you with evidence for one of the dumbest things things that GHW Bush ever said: that atheists were less patriotic than other Americans. But the context of that was an offhand remark, not a prepared speech. Still, it did reveal a dumb prejudice of Bush (and one shared by many others.) So, you owe Canton an apology for calling him a liar on that point. But you seem to be unable to admit error, so I won't get my hopes up.
Republican 101

Lima, OH

#24024 Jan 18, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Why are you playing dumb, xxxrayted?
You give him FAR too much credit. He's not playing...

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