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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31946 Sep 4, 2014
If the stories out of Reynoldsburg look familiar, they ought to because we just read them in Mason.
Before that we read them in Fairborn, and last year we read them here in Springboro.

Same playbook, just change the names and go.

Nobody wishes to see any degree of accountability for the results of their efforts.

Nobody wishes to see any change to the gold plated health programs the union supports.( Who would, it was not my idea to raise my insurance costs 15-20% per year and accept a $2500 deductible to keep the premium raises in that range, but it is the reality of Obamacare )

Nobody wants to have to work harder.

I get all of the above, but only in a monopolistic, union driven environment is this considered normal and sacrosanct.

Everyday the rest of the world competes to stay ahead of the curve, because if they don't someone else will take their place.

Merit pay rewards those top performers and punishes those low perfumers.

Who do you want teaching your children, the teachers that generate good results or the teachers who generate much less than those results?

While everyone may be equally qualified, some are more equally qualified than others.

Reward them.
Parents Alert

Springfield, OH

#31947 Sep 5, 2014
Bring Them Home!

Home schooling thriving.....

tp://wishtv.com/2014/09/02/hom e-schooling-thiving-in-entrali ndiana/
Narcs

Springfield, OH

#31948 Sep 5, 2014
ALL ABOUT THE FREE MARKET wrote:
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As was the current SEA contract. Good point.
Ask them, I bet all three regret it.
All Supers are trained to be emotional thinkers and to believe their district is their kingdom.
Narcissist
Narcs

Springfield, OH

#31949 Sep 5, 2014
ACCOUNTABILITY wrote:
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Why don't you ask the board members that interviewed and approved him 2 years ago??? Maybe it's a good thing that majority is no longer the majority. Sounds like you had a severe disagreement with their decision.
The biggest problem is that there no good choices. I know because I was on the board at one time and I witnessed all of the really bad candidates, so, we hired someone we knew, it was less than we wanted but the candidate pool was just a dry old mud puddle. I hear Mr. Lolli is making a really bad HS Principal also.
Bobble

Springfield, OH

#31950 Sep 5, 2014
ACCOUNTABILITY wrote:
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Why don't you ask the board members that interviewed and approved him 2 years ago??? Maybe it's a good thing that majority is no longer the majority. Sounds like you had a severe disagreement with their decision.
A super is only as good as the boa that directs him or her. So if Petrey has gone lefty loosie that is because his board allows it. The past board kept him under control now he controls the board and they are bobble heads. He makes them look really stupid. Ever notice they never say anything, at least nothing of value. Stuckey It is Stipend not stipnd.

Yippee you elected a bunch of bobble heads great goin.
Bobble

Springfield, OH

#31951 Sep 5, 2014
Parents Alert wrote:
Bring Them Home!
Home schooling thriving.....
tp://wishtv.com/2014/09/02/hom e-schooling-thiving-in-entrali ndiana/
I need this address again, this doesn't work
worship

Springfield, OH

#31952 Sep 5, 2014
ACCOUNTABILITY wrote:
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Why don't you ask the board members that interviewed and approved him 2 years ago??? Maybe it's a good thing that majority is no longer the majority. Sounds like you had a severe disagreement with their decision.
I hear one of them pulled her son out of this system- what does that tell you? If she trusted him or this system she would leave her kids in.

lets get a survey of the teachers and all other staff and lets see how many either home school or send their kids to a private school. I know of many that did not have their precious kids in this public failing jail where money is worshiped and kids are inconvenient.
pray

Springfield, OH

#31953 Sep 5, 2014
ALL HAIL CAPITALISM wrote:
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4) The free market is ALL about MONEY and POWER. Capitalism at it's finest!! Survival of the RICHEST!!!!
The difference between Capitalism and communism is that now all the communists are rich and they got that way not by earning it but by steeling in from those that work.

Capitalism motivates people communism degrades them. Is this what you want? Must be. Our schools promote communism because the laxiest get all the money and the workers suffer. See teachers get ginormous raises while the people that work all year around suffer - yup that is your version of "survival of the richest". Your words mean you are jealous, mine mean I support fairness. Earning what you have is liberty, taking what you have is theft.
pray

Springfield, OH

#31954 Sep 5, 2014
lack of accountability wrote:
Why do Springboro's students annually earn such good grades?
Is it because Boro students are extremely good test-takers? No.
Is it because Springboro parents are superior to other parents outside the district? No, not really.
Is it because Springboro's teachers are superior to teachers outside the district? No.
The reason Springboro students have exceptionally high average grades is because teachers are allowed to take lots of extra credit & homework credit and merge them with test score averages, which in many cases, is quite low.
To make matters worse, certian teachers around the district have resurrected an awful tradition of bribing students to bring in kleenex/ hand soap to class in exchange for extra credit points. These educators claim to be role models?
OMG this is so true. I told my son that if the teachers needed to squeeze a little more out of us they needed to go to the principal and ask for less raises and more school supplies. Our home is barely scraping by so NO you can not bribe my son into bringing our household supplies so you can have health care paid by me , vision paid for by me, dental care paid for by me, life insc. paid for by me, raises paid for by me. school fees paid for by me, extra curricular paid for by me, the building paid for by me ......... and bribe my kid for more. Son of a gun stop the pillaging and legal plunder. Se this is what you get with this new board lol.
Parents Alert

Springfield, OH

#31955 Sep 5, 2014
Parents Alert wrote:
Bring Them Home!
Home schooling thriving.....
tp://wishtv.com/2014/09/02/hom e-schooling-thiving-in-entrali ndiana/
http://wishtv.com/2014/09/02/home-schooling-t...

Bring Them Home and allow them the luxury of an individual box of tissues to blow their little noses so that they don't have to share collective "three bags full" with the union classroom teachers who all are educated to a Masters of Solidarity degree.
ALL ABOUT THE FREE MARKET

Eaton, OH

#31956 Sep 7, 2014
pray wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference between Capitalism and communism is that now all the communists are rich and they got that way not by earning it but by steeling in from those that work.
Capitalism motivates people communism degrades them. Is this what you want? Must be. Our schools promote communism because the laxiest get all the money and the workers suffer. See teachers get ginormous raises while the people that work all year around suffer - yup that is your version of "survival of the richest". Your words mean you are jealous, mine mean I support fairness. Earning what you have is liberty, taking what you have is theft.
Do you know how many people are rich off of the stock market. How "lax" are you when you just sit around watching money made? How "lax" are the CEO's making millions off of the workers making sub-par wages? Exactly how much money does Hilton and Kardashian "earn? For that matter, how much do politicians who take money from contributions? What about the money exchanged between politicians and lobbyists? Your version of Earning is much different than most.
ALL ABOUT THE FREE MARKET

Eaton, OH

#31957 Sep 7, 2014
Bobble wrote:
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I need this address again, this doesn't work
Hopefully the person who originally posted the non-working link isn't home schooling their kids. Kind of proves the point against home schooling doesn't it??
Pay It Foward

Springfield, OH

#31958 Sep 7, 2014
pray wrote:
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OMG this is so true. I told my son that if the teachers needed to squeeze a little more out of us they needed to go to the principal and ask for less raises and more school supplies. Our home is barely scraping by so NO you can not bribe my son into bringing our household supplies so you can have health care paid by me , vision paid for by me, dental care paid for by me, life insc. paid for by me, raises paid for by me. school fees paid for by me, extra curricular paid for by me, the building paid for by me ......... and bribe my kid for more. Son of a gun stop the pillaging and legal plunder. Se this is what you get with this new board lol.
What's up with those Springboro school building principals pushing union solidarity of benefiting from families shopping at their chosen unionized food store, running advertisements for pizza businesses, advertising to parents that non-nutritional "snack foods" are now available for kids to purchase ...If they don't like the high priced government required nutritional lunch menu...
and now, did you notice, that even the "least of these" in the kindergarten are being pinched for pennies to bring from home to enter in competition who can give the most pennies.....?

Is there nothing that can "quench these principals' fund raising thirst?" What's up with all
this value put on which child can contribute most to the fun of highly paid school principals'
obsession of investing their time pressuring students to focus on fund raising?

And what's the deal about pushing students to "Pay It Forward" with random acts of
cleanliness for stocking the Buildings' supply of hand sanitizers? Shouldn't there be an "Anonymous" one in these classrooms with a union classroom teachers to make
sure that these large supplies of hand sanitizers are stored in a locked cabinet......
for the kids' safety?
truth to power

Springfield, OH

#31959 Sep 7, 2014
Pay It Foward wrote:
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Did you notice, that even the "least of these" in the kindergarten are being pinched for pennies to bring from home to enter in competition who can give the most pennies.....?
Is there nothing that can "quench these principals' fund raising thirst?"
This is Robin Hoodism in reverse. It's all about taking advantage of the innocence of 5 year olds. It's about intentially indoctrinating 5 year olds in making them believe it's perfectly OK to shift capital from their middle class families toward their school district, which is currently being dominated by greedy, self-serving interests of the SEA.
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31960 Sep 7, 2014
truth to power wrote:
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This is Robin Hoodism in reverse. It's all about taking advantage of the innocence of 5 year olds. It's about intentially indoctrinating 5 year olds in making them believe it's perfectly OK to shift capital from their middle class families toward their school district, which is currently being dominated by greedy, self-serving interests of the SEA.
And ..........Isn't This What SEA Narcissism looks like........?
Excessive admiration of ones "wonderful" self?
SPECIAL

Cleveland, OH

#31961 Sep 8, 2014
Now that we are getting RID of PICKETT, what can we all do to get rid of WADE?
Accountability

Springfield, OH

#31962 Sep 8, 2014
SPECIAL wrote:
Now that we are getting RID of PICKETT, what can we all do to get rid of WADE?
if "We The People" want to be a people governed "by the people, for the people and of the people" then the first step in this journey to voting Mr. Wade out of elected office "next time he comes around" is to simply show your respect for protecting your family investment in this community and show up at the next township government meeting on September 15, 2014.

Our Clearcreek Township Administrators have show respect for all "Citizens of Clearcreek Township" by recognizing that "we the people" are part of the "Union Solidarity" family in this
One Community by adding this recognition to their official "Clearcreek Township Organization Chart."

This is just "this ONE thing" that we the people can do to rid our community of "career politicians" who put their self interests of promoting union solidarity against Taxpayers as priority above their elected responsibilities to provide the best public safety services possible to all citizens, without
the local government overtaxing its citizens.
SchoolChildrenDr iveSlowly

Springfield, OH

#31963 Sep 8, 2014
SPECIAL wrote:
Now that we are getting RID of PICKETT, what can we all do to get rid of WADE?
... as well as the individual at the township office who's responsible for the terribly misworded safety banners.
lol

Springfield, OH

#31964 Sep 8, 2014
SchoolChildrenDriveSlowly wrote:
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... as well as the individual at the township office who's responsible for the terribly misworded safety banners.
that's funny! Probably someone in the township hurriedly (and haphazardly) trying to call attention to caring for the children more .... in competition with those handing out the candy to kids on the first day of school.

My niece's child is sugar intolerant -- totally hyper after eating candy -- and when the teachers
were told not to reward behavior with candy -- the teachers did so anyway; but just told the
child to eat the candy at home!

... help us help you?..... enough already!
Hey union classroom teacher; hey police officer and firefighter
how about backing off with freely handing out the sweets and
then fund raising for the community non profits -- causing money-wars among the students
as to who can pinch the most pennies out of Mom and Dad!

Why doesn't the community safety officers donate that candy that they throw around on
the streets and the school grounds to the non-profit charitable organizations around town?

Do you really think that our kids won't "Luv U" if you cut out the sugary sweets and just hand
out a "Smile and Have A Nice Day?"

It works for Mom and Dad!
Super Size Regrets

Springfield, OH

#31965 Sep 12, 2014
Narcs wrote:
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Ask them, I bet all three regret it.
All Supers are trained to be emotional thinkers and to believe their district is their kingdom.
Narcissist
Don't know about regrets of all three; but one thing for SURE;
all Supers regret all failed attempts to pass increased taxes
school levies; and all Supers regret failed attempts of all local governments
to overtax its citizens! And that's what union solidarity looks like!

Do know that all Supers are trained be pro-active at all times to promote
false evidence appearing real of the school district's unmet needs and for the
sake of the children, we need to pass a New levy! And that's what Super FEAR
looks like!

Do you know that all Supers are trained to know that there are Lots Of Super Dupers
out there looking to be hired in a school district so that they can set up their kingdom
of running a continuous stream of unnecessary levies based on false budget crisis;
and that Supers who can NOT pass new levies to pay for their heavily indebted district
kingdoms are likely to get Fired?

And that's what Super Unemployment looks like; because all Super Dupers are trained to
know that a Failed Super in his local district kingdom DON'T get Hired in another school
district kingdom.

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