Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Waste Watchers

Springboro, OH

#31867 Aug 14, 2014
perspective wrote:
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Quite a lot of students from less from affluent families don't even utilize the free lunch program. What they're into is packing lots of really cheap junk food. This represents a local microcosm of America in that our "poor" are, by far, the Earth's fattest!.
Totally Agree! That's why some school districts are dropping the federal lunch program.
The Campbell County, Ky. district is opting out http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us/districtNe...
The reason: Kids didn't like their healthful lunches.

The 2800 student district ( http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us ) joins a small BUT GROWING number of school districts across the country ---mostly wealthy districts than can afford to forfeit the money--that have dropped out of the federal program in the wake of stricter nutritional standards.

Schools said students don't like the unsalted potatoes, low-fat cheese or the mandatory fruits and vegetables. They throw food away or decide not to eat at all.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/nation/2014/08...
Quick Question

Springboro, OH

#31868 Aug 15, 2014
Waste Watchers wrote:
<quoted text>
Totally Agree! That's why some school districts are dropping the federal lunch program.
The Campbell County, Ky. district is opting out http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us/districtNe...
The reason: Kids didn't like their healthful lunches.
The 2800 student district ( http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us ) joins a small BUT GROWING number of school districts across the country ---mostly wealthy districts than can afford to forfeit the money--that have dropped out of the federal program in the wake of stricter nutritional standards.
Schools said students don't like the unsalted potatoes, low-fat cheese or the mandatory fruits and vegetables. They throw food away or decide not to eat at all.
http://www.wbir.com/story/news/nation/2014/08...
Whatever Happened to that $500,000 Food Services Surplus that Springboro schools had built up taking advantage of the free and reduced federal lunch program?
Parents set the examples

Springboro, OH

#31869 Aug 15, 2014
Waste Watchers wrote:
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Totally Agree! That's why some school districts are dropping the federal lunch program.
The Campbell County, Ky. district is opting out http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us/districtNe...
The reason: Kids didn't like their healthful lunches.
The 2800 student district ( http://www.fortthomas.kyschools.us ) joins a small BUT GROWING number of school districts across the country ---mostly wealthy districts than can afford to forfeit the money--that have dropped out of the federal program in the wake of stricter nutritional standards.
Schools said students don't like the unsalted potatoes, low-fat cheese or the mandatory fruits and vegetables. They throw food away or decide not to eat at all.
http://www.wbir.com/story/news/nation/2014/08...
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...

KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.

If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
lol

Springboro, OH

#31870 Aug 15, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
there you go again..... the ole "blame it on the parents and the home" and hey, let's pass a levy for the kids cause the government has to do it all ..... their way or the highway!

Just thinking that parents just might have time after getting home from work to shop and prepare healthier meals for their kids if the parents didn't then have to spend time helping the kids with the homework that could have been supervised by the teacher at school.
Reality Bytes

Springboro, OH

#31871 Aug 15, 2014
perspective wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite a lot of students from less from affluent families don't even utilize the free lunch program. What they're into is packing lots of really cheap junk food. This represents a local microcosm of America in that our "poor" are, by far, the Earth's fattest!.
Isn't it true that the students from more affluent families can fatten the principal's fund
by feeding the vending machines dispensing really expensive sugary drinks; and what about those principal's fund raising antics of wooing a donation of food from the students' homes with bribes of selling second slices of pizza pie for just half the price?

Truth is, trying to justify those outlandishly high school lunch prices by promoting the myth that the government can legislate, regulate, and educate students to eat, live, and learn the union boot camp way (because the parents at home are too slothful in their duties) is nothing but symbolism giving government leaders false empowerment that they really can do it all for the kids.....if only those pesky parents would get out of the way and trust the Educators and "say yes the first time to school levies!" It's All About the Money!
Get Real

Springboro, OH

#31872 Aug 16, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
Isn't it more likely that today's parents have had over-exposure to the liberal indoctrination of socialism government manipulation agendas projecting FEAR (false evidence appearing real) into our homes that we are not capable of raising our children properly without the micro-managing of the government agencies; and that a family cannot survive unless BOTH parents are in the workplace, paying taxes that are necessary to support the many local government agencies that are in turn, micro-managing our lives and our future?

Our families are now enslaved to the public school teachers, public safety workers in the firefighters/police officers unions, county welfare/social services union employees; and
our families well being and private property values are threatened by emotional blackmailing of "give us the money or somebody's gonna get hurt real bad!"
held s fithtl
R U Sure

Springboro, OH

#31873 Aug 16, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
Could be that the Bluegrass State sees more clearly beyond the tunnel vision of "nobody cares for your child like the government do" thanks to their State requirement that all
kids get an eye exam from an outside eye doctor (not just the school nurse)??
Boro Teacher since 1989

Springboro, OH

#31874 Aug 16, 2014
Quick Question wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't 60% of Happy Boro Teachers ENOUGH to join FORCES to SAVE OUR STUDENTS from classroom indoctrination of forced unionism?
Unfortunately, of the 60%(after talking to some other teachers, I believe it might be closer to 70%), most of us feel the School Board will take retribution-like action. Already, we sense spending controls will be memories and Boro residents will be asked to approve a levy to pay for the new Board's agenda.
MoreRon Status Quo

Springboro, OH

#31875 Aug 17, 2014
Boro Teacher since 1989 wrote:
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Unfortunately, of the 60%(after talking to some other teachers, I believe it might be closer to 70%), most of us feel the School Board will take retribution-like action. Already, we sense spending controls will be memories and Boro residents will be asked to approve a levy to pay for the new Board's agenda.
Springboro Taxpayers will never forget the wasteful spending of our school tax dollars
being done by our school superintendent and school treasurer, under the leadership
of our SEA union controlled Board of Education President and Vice President,
Mr. Charles Anderson and Mr. Ron Malone.
Point Counter Point

Springboro, OH

#31876 Aug 17, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
Good Point. On the other hand, just because our union controlled Springboro school board president and vice president, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone, have a propensity to stupidly waste our hard earned school tax dollars, it is not because they have not had exposure to the financial expertise and skilled leadership of our Two Children first budgeting
board members and the progress made during their first two years of service, doing what's right for our school children and community.

What a waste it is of good people power to "throw out" a well-balanced Board Budget Finance committee of elected officials, David Petroni and Jim Rigano, and then have
our school superintendent choose Springboro parent for S-U-R-E, Todd Smith, as
his district committee member; and now our children's future has been endangered by
a $5 million debt imposed upon Springboro Taxpayers; which no doubt a New increased school levy will be promoted soon as the "fix" for this school superintendent's addiction to
overspending Taxpayers money and then try overtaxing the Taxpayers. And that's what
maintaining MoreRon status quo looks like.
BoroWise

Springboro, OH

#31877 Aug 18, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
Parents can set the example at home; but the public schools can override the home's influence once the child's is mandated into the public schools with a union classroom teacher indoctrinating that child's mind to whatever OEA forced unionism benefits the self-interest agenda of the Springboro Education Association, in conflict with our children's first priority interests of highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility? Where is the outrage among parents over the pollution of our children's minds with the
junk diet of dumb-downed core curriculum standards, while teaching youth unionism,
fighting social justice for public school teachers union agenda of job security, getting more pay for doing less work in the classroom?
TV Land

Springboro, OH

#31878 Aug 18, 2014
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever!.........but for sure within the diversity of our community, there will be the richey rich kids gagging on their silver spoons as they get a double dipping of everything; while the kids that qualify for FREE government lunches gag on that awful federally mandated school lunch menu! Welcome Back.... to MoreRon status quo failed practices, holding all students captive in the public school classrooms with a union teacher, gagging on greed for More taxpayers dollars, while refusing to work in the same vigorous manner as those taxpayers in the private sector!
Did anyone else see in today's TV news that the Dayton Public schools teachers union is practicing the old SEA glorified "go red for ed" campaign for Union Solidarity against their
school district taxpayers?(You can read all about it in the OEA article "This is What Solidarity Looks Like" written by Scott Maney, Springboro Education Association, President, and Marla Bell, OEA/LRC at the website: http://www.ohea.org/this-is-what-solidarity-l... )

Also heard "in the news" that Butler County social services workers are striking out against children in their protesting "Help Us Help Children" campaign..........;

sounds a lot like the Clearcreek Township Firefighters union campaign "Help Us Help You" mantra last May 2013, in which firefighters/teachers union joined in "union solidarity"
fighting against Springboro Taxpayers to increase our fire levy taxes a whopping 93%(which was proven to be unnecessary) and failed to pass at the polls.
setting the right example

Springboro, OH

#31879 Aug 18, 2014
TV Land wrote:
<quoted text>
sounds a lot like the Clearcreek Township Firefighters union campaign "Help Us Help You" mantra last May 2013, in which firefighters/teachers union joined in "union solidarity"
fighting against Springboro Taxpayers to increase our fire levy taxes a whopping 93%(which was proven to be unnecessary) and failed to pass at the polls.
Speaking of firefighters...
Why do certain local firefighters use kiddie fire safety classes as a means to show off in front of the opposite gender?
Pull the kids out

Springboro, OH

#31882 Aug 22, 2014
Does anyone know why the Kohls pulled their kids out of Springboro schools?
What do the Kohls know that we don't? I say, I am with them. Pull your kids out!
What are they going to do now? Even the virtual and charter schools are public and socialist trainers. Where do you go for a real education, one not controlled by unions?
Vouchers

Springboro, OH

#31883 Aug 22, 2014
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
Example 4 the kids

Springboro, OH

#31884 Aug 22, 2014
Re: The intentional destruction of wetland that's now occuring in front a Boro elementary school.

http://wi.water.usgs.gov/pubs/FS-246-96/

"In the broadest sense,(wetland) mitigation is a process that focuses on: 1) avoiding wetland loss, 2) minimizing the effect of wetland loss, and 3) compensating for unavoidable wetland loss.
In general usage, however, mitigation has become synonymous with number 3 and now refers to replacing the function and structure of a destroyed wetland by creating, restoring or enhancing a wetland somewhere else. This mitigation of wetland loss has been mandated by federal law, and there have been numerous large and small wetland mitigation projects in every part of the nation."
In other words, if an entity destroys a wetland over here, they're legally obliged to rebuild a wetland over there.

Y'know, at the end of the day, this isn't just about obeying federal laws, this is about setting a good environmental example FOR THE KIDS.
Eight Is Too Much

Springboro, OH

#31885 Aug 22, 2014
The time has now come for all Good Citizens of Springboro to demand that Charles Anderson and Ron Malone accept our "Kick the Bucket" challenge and just resign as Board of Education president and vice president; based on their Eight months of MoreRons stupidly wasting our school district resources and taxpayers money.
Enough Is Enough

Springboro, OH

#31886 Aug 22, 2014
Vouchers wrote:
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
Why work for the union bosses who have No Respect for teachers nor taxpayers?
Why not accept this challenge to above all things (and dollars) just Respect Yourself
enough to just say NO to forced unionism? If enough teachers would opt out of paying those big union dues, then the union would not have so much money and power over the Teachers,
indoctrinating our children's minds further into liberal socialism and further away from our
Constitutional Rights? Just Keep in Mind that the big union bosses and the politicians of both parties are the only ones benefiting from the big business of having every child in the community enrolled in a classroom with a union classroom teacher.
lol

Springboro, OH

#31888 Aug 22, 2014
Going to Get Worse wrote:
Better get ready. Kasich is going to cut all local funding, including schools. It is time to prepare.
1. Before negotiating a new contract, the Board and whatever management is still employed needs to go through the District's needs from the bottom up. Taking what was spent last year and adding 5% is not good evough. DO THE WORK!!!
2. Look at every school and see how many students and teachers there are. Is that what is truly needed or just what is "wanted"?
3. Look at every supplemental contract. Did you know that teachers get paid extra for "curriculum" duties and "grade leaders" and to be "Evaluators/mentors" ? This is on top of their salary and before their after-school supplemental contracts.
4. How many sports teams do we need? Why isn't the pay to play money applied directly to the sport?
5. Get back to basics. Sorry - but we don't need to pay for the strings program. I would rather have bussing, and parents can haul their kids to private lessons or start an afterschool program.
The above "Going to Get Worse" post is from this blog dated November 10, 2010.

It's August 22, 2014, now and the Worst of the past eight months of union controlled leadership Charles Anderson and Ron Malone.... is going to get "worser and worst" if these two MoreRons of status quo past failed practices don't step down and stop all this messing up in the board room decisions!
Save Our Schools

Springboro, OH

#31890 Aug 23, 2014
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
The above "Going to Get Worse" post is from this blog dated November 10, 2010.
It's August 22, 2014, now and the Worst of the past eight months of union controlled leadership Charles Anderson and Ron Malone.... is going to get "worser and worst" if these two MoreRons of status quo past failed practices don't step down and stop all this messing up in the board room decisions!
Truth Be Told, For S-U-R-E, Springboro Board Members Charles Anderson/ Ron Malone/ David
Stuckey have in just eight months of destructive public "non-service" successfully completed the "Waste Bucket Challenge" from the Springboro Education Association to stupidly WASTE
our school tax dollars which could have been used for a brighter future for our school children,
teachers, and community members.

Now our children's future looks as dark as those shadowy figures of the MVP Levy campaign being promoted throughout our Staff members; throwing FEAR (false evidence
appearing real) and insecurity into the minds of our teachers; who in turn are growing more hostile toward Springboro citizens who refuse to pass the levies.
hostile toward Springboro citizens and students and their families who will never support
the mission and vision of ONE community of forced unionism solidarity.

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