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Reject Forced Unionism

Springfield, OH

#31547 Jun 17, 2014
the truth hurts doesnt it wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey..."Did You Know"... Still waiting for some type of intelligent response from you (lol!)...
(sound of crickets)
Only Three Little Words in Response to ONE future of union solidarity against Springboro taxpayers - NO NEW TAXES!
everything starts in CA

Springfield, OH

#31548 Jun 17, 2014
LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles Superior Court judge ruled Tuesday that teacher tenure laws deprive students of their constitutional right to an education, a decision that hands teachers' unions a major defeat in a landmark case that overturns several California laws that govern the way teachers are hired and fired.

“Substantial evidence presented makes it clear to this court that the challenged statutes disproportionately affect poor and/or minority students,” Judge Rolf Treu wrote in the ruling.“The evidence is compelling. Indeed, it shocks the conscience.”

The ruling, which declared the laws governing how teachers are hired and fired in California to be unconstitutional, is likely to set off a slew of legal fights here and in other states, where many education reform advocates are eager to change similar laws. The ruling brings a close to the first chapter of the case, Vergara vs. California, but both sides have made it clear that they plan to appeal any decision that goes against them to the state Supreme Court.

The plaintiffs argued that California's current laws governing how teachers are hired and fired made it impossible to get rid of low-performing and incompetent teachers, who were disproportionately assigned to schools filled with poor students. The result, they insisted, amounted to a violation of students' constitutional rights to an education.

But lawyers for the states and teachers' unions said that overturning such laws would erode necessary protections that stop school administrators from making unfair personnel decisions. They also argued that the vast majority of teachers in the state's schools are competent and providing students with all the necessary tools to learn. More important factors than teachers, they argued, are social and economic inequalities as well as the funding levels of public schools.

Observers on both sides expect the case to generate dozens more like it in cities and states around the country. David Welch, a Silicon Valley technology magnate who financed the organization that is largely responsible for bringing the Vergara case to court — Students Matter — has indicated that his group is open to funding other similar legal fights, particularly in states with powerful teachers' unions where legislatures have defeated attempts to change teacher tenure laws.

Under state law here, teachers are eligible for tenure after 18 months, and layoffs must be determined by seniority — a process known as “last in, first out.”

http://www.expressnews.com/news/us-world/us/a...
Media Masters

Springfield, OH

#31550 Jun 18, 2014
the truth hurts doesnt it wrote:
<quoted text>
Bet you're wrong...(as per usual).
You Betcha "the truth hurts" to know that all Springboro Taxpayers are footing the big bill of Todd Petrey's highest paid salary ever to a Springboro School employee; and now Todd Petrey is deliberately dividing our Community for SURE, based on the tactics of ridicule as taught in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." pages 127-134

Under the leadership of union controlled BOEpresident/vice president Charles Anderson and Ron Malone, our school superintendent projects the attitude that he has aligned with his angels (who can do NO wrong in pursuit of leaving our kids left behind) of SEA Union Solidarity AGAINST all Springboro taxpayers who oppose the SEA staff takeover of our children's classroom school taxes; which re-emphasizes the status quo failed practices of Ron Malone's insanely popular agenda with the SEA staff, running our board room like a union shop.

Springboro Taxpayers have no power in affecting change of Petrey's leadership agenda of forced unionism indoctrination of our children's minds, with only union classroom teachers holding our children captive audience in our K-12 taxpayer-funded schools. Springboro Taxpayers only power of ONE voice One vote lies in our Constitutional rights to just Vote NO to Petrey's school levy promotion to increase local property taxes on all Springboro familes!

Remember - Only you have that ONE vote that could make the difference between ONE future of Union Solidarity Rule of Radicals; and Freedom for all from being further indebted to our local government of forced unionism.
Boro parent

Springfield, OH

#31551 Jun 18, 2014
everything starts in CA wrote:
LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles Superior Court judge ruled Tuesday that teacher tenure laws deprive students of their constitutional right to an education, a decision that hands teachers' unions a major defeat in a landmark case that overturns several California laws that govern the way teachers are hired and fired.
“Substantial evidence presented makes it clear to this court that the challenged statutes disproportionately affect poor and/or minority students,” Judge Rolf Treu wrote in the ruling.“The evidence is compelling. Indeed, it shocks the conscience.”
The ruling, which declared the laws governing how teachers are hired and fired in California to be unconstitutional, is likely to set off a slew of legal fights here and in other states, where many education reform advocates are eager to change similar laws. The ruling brings a close to the first chapter of the case, Vergara vs. California, but both sides have made it clear that they plan to appeal any decision that goes against them to the state Supreme Court.
The plaintiffs argued that California's current laws governing how teachers are hired and fired made it impossible to get rid of low-performing and incompetent teachers, who were disproportionately assigned to schools filled with poor students. The result, they insisted, amounted to a violation of students' constitutional rights to an education.
But lawyers for the states and teachers' unions said that overturning such laws would erode necessary protections that stop school administrators from making unfair personnel decisions. They also argued that the vast majority of teachers in the state's schools are competent and providing students with all the necessary tools to learn. More important factors than teachers, they argued, are social and economic inequalities as well as the funding levels of public schools.
Observers on both sides expect the case to generate dozens more like it in cities and states around the country. David Welch, a Silicon Valley technology magnate who financed the organization that is largely responsible for bringing the Vergara case to court — Students Matter — has indicated that his group is open to funding other similar legal fights, particularly in states with powerful teachers' unions where legislatures have defeated attempts to change teacher tenure laws.
Under state law here, teachers are eligible for tenure after 18 months, and layoffs must be determined by seniority — a process known as “last in, first out.”
http://www.expressnews.com/news/us-world/us/a...
This couldn't happen too soon here in Ohio. In addition to having many teachers who are truly excellent, Springboro schools employs quite a number of educators who collectively fall into the category "low performing / incompetent".

Many Boro students realize much less than their potential in their K-12 education because these low performing, incompetent teachers' jobs are union-protected.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31552 Jun 18, 2014
Boro parent wrote:
<quoted text>
This couldn't happen too soon here in Ohio. In addition to having many teachers who are truly excellent, Springboro schools employs quite a number of educators who collectively fall into the category "low performing / incompetent".
Many Boro students realize much less than their potential in their K-12 education because these low performing, incompetent teachers' jobs are union-protected.
The only thing we really lack is the will to do is change our focus from doing better for the union to doing better for our children.

Our schools are not social welfare employment agencies and produce but one product, an educated child at the end of the educational conveyor.
Reject Forced Unionism

Springfield, OH

#31554 Jun 18, 2014
Boro parent wrote:
<quoted text>
This couldn't happen too soon here in Ohio. In addition to having many teachers who are truly excellent, Springboro schools employs quite a number of educators who collectively fall into the category "low performing / incompetent".
Many Boro students realize much less than their potential in their K-12 education because these low performing, incompetent teachers' jobs are union-protected.
Why are Boro parents who know this truth about low performing incompetent teachers' jobs being protected, to the detriment of our students' highest academic potential, not protesting against our school district leaders who continue promoting union first employment security?

Just recently this status quo harmful practice of continuing contract (Tenure) was re-instated in board business meeting, with our union controlled board members Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, David Stuckey voting Approval of school superintendent Todd Petrey's "recommendations from staff."

People in this community should ask our highly paid superintendent, Todd Petrey, why he always sweetly surrenders to the Left side of the Union First failed status quo practices of "yesterday" instead of standing with our Children First, doing what's right for our school children and community in the best interest of a brighter 21st century classroom education?

Mr. Petrey has proven that Springboro Taxpayers "Investing" More Money in our Kid's Education does NOT improve Education; More Money just puts the re-emphasis on the financial gain of the union classroom Educator.

All politicians in Ohio benefit greatly from this Broken System of Forced Unionism K-12 Education; and as the failure of SB5 proved, our State politicians (both Republican and Democrat and all those Non-Partisan In-Between) will not allow any talk of even slightest reforms to the old outdated collective bargaining laws to be Whispered in the Halls of our Great State of Ohio legislature.

The State did not have the WILL to reign in these (unfair and unaffordable to local taxpayers) Compensation/Beneftis packages guaranteed by the collective bargaining rules; the State bloated their own benefits packages and then expected the local government leaders to beat down their own citizens with over-taxation to the benefit of the Union masters who rule over our children's classroom education.

Only three words are powerful enough to Reject Forced Unionism --
NO NEW TAXES!
Boro parent

Springfield, OH

#31555 Jun 18, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing we really lack is the will to do is change our focus from doing better for the union to doing better for our children.
Our schools are not social welfare employment agencies and produce but one product, an educated child at the end of the educational conveyor.
These days, we hear it all over the media. We even hear about it at sports events, like major league baseball games. Nationally, statewide, and locally, there are forces that are putting on a lot of effort and expense in order to build and promote the overall image of American public school teachers.

This is disturbing in that it's contributing to increased public misconception about teachers.
As aforementioned, Springboro has a lot of excellent teachers. Springboro unfortunately also has under union contract a certain number of teachers who are both tenured, are currently too inept to teach, and/or are underperforming. Unless an offense is particularly serious (such as theft) locally, the SEA goes out of its way to cover the backs of teachers. Also locally, regardless of whether they're effective or ineffective, Springboro's reigning superintendent is obviously all about covering the backs of his subordinates.

So, where is the crime being committed? Begin by peeking inside the door of the local teachers union. Both locally and nationally, teachers union reps are trained to absolutely refuse to accept "educator underperformace" as a legitimate reason to attend a hearing in order to consider a teacher's dismissal.

While the American teacher continues to be placed onto a collective pedestal, students here in the Boro as well as all over the nation continue to get cheated out of better, more rewarding K-12 educations. To cut to the chase, either severely amending or completely abolishing teacher employment tenure policy will make great strides toward opening many doors for this nations' students by the way of increasing the overall quality of their K-12 education. This will allow superindendents to not be intimidated (as many are today) by union-mandated employment policy. By having more reign to disciple teachers, by having more reign to call teachers to the BOE podium to respond to alleged discretions, superintendents will then be free to finally place focus where it has belonged all along -.on students. Because students overall will then enjoy a better quality of teacher, an elimination /restriction of tenure eventually sets the stage for students to realize better post-graduate opportunites.
Reject Forced Unionism

Springfield, OH

#31556 Jun 19, 2014
@Boro Parent:
So, where is the crime being committed? Begin by peeking inside the door of the local teachers union. Both locally and nationally, teachers union reps are trained to absolutely refuse to accept "educator underperformace" as a legitimate reason to attend a hearing in order to consider a teacher's dismissal.

Last Year (2013) This is What SEA Union Solidarity AGAINST our children first and Springboro taxpaying homeowners looked like:
But by the November 2011 school board election in which to (2) additional "fiscally conservative" candidates win seats, SEA knew it was time to step it up, especially since negotiations were to commence in March 2013. The school board was freely stating its plans to move to a merit pay systems, bring health insurance in line with the private sector and have teachers work n the same rigorous manner as others in the community.(from OEA website article submitted by Scott Maney, Springboro Education Association President, and Marla Bell, OEA/LRC)

This Year (2014) This is What SEA Union Solidarity for ONE future AGAINST our children first and Springboro taxpaying homeowners looks like, according to Springboro School Superintendent, Todd Petrey, and his hired union steward, Jeff Stec, facilitator of community engagement meetings, promoting the next big School Levy Tax Increase coming to the Boro in Year 2015.

Todd Petrey's community engagement project of ONE BORO COMMUNITY joins all Union members (teachers, firefighters,police officers) with the Chamber of Commerce pro-levy community business owners to form a Circle of Greed, attacking Springboro families with the OEA war of words in efforts to break the Will of the People to just say NO NEW TAXES.

Biggest Problem in Springboro is not lack of Money for school funding; but lack of Accountability of Todd Petrey's Staff for union classroom poor performance, keeping our Children First left behind.
Wake up People!

(Jeff Stec's Community Engagement Meetings are part of the OSBA state wide "Big Picture of Education" which is all about Money and Power and Union Solidarity trying to control both, as we can see in this
Ohio E and A union propaganda. This promotion of Community Engagement Projects for New School Levies is typical of the union propaganda pumped out by state Professional Whiners (at taxpayers expense) 24-7, 365 days a year.)

Lorain County Schools Community Engagement Project: a survey of opinions on charter schools, vouchers and other so-called "reforms"
The school superintendents of Lorain County have set the pace for the public education community in speaking out in regard to the so-called "reforms" that are being imposed on public school districts. Among their many activities is the Lorain County Schools Community Engagement Project-see www.restorelocalcontrol.org website.
The Engagement Project focused on a survey of 620 registered voters in Lorain County. Among the findings are:
1. Biggest problem-school funding
2. Local tax dollars should not go to charter schools
3. Opposition of vouchers to private schools
4. Support for pre-school for low income students
5. The increase in state testing has not helped students
The results of the entire survey can be found on the website.
The rollout of the results took place at a meeting of the Chamber of Commerce.
ESC Superintendent Greg Ring and his colleagues have been meeting in various areas of the state to inform those who are interested in replicating the project.

William Phillis
Ohio E & A
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31557 Jun 19, 2014
While we prattle on about the excellence within our school district according to the state requirements, let us take a moment to review this
"rigorous" criteria.

http://education.ohio.gov/getattachment/Topic...

The last pages show how many a student got correct for a given score in a given subject. 400 is the magical Proficient mark needed to pass the Ohio Graduation Test.

PROFICIENT and enough to qualify to graduate from high school means a student got this many right in each subject.

Reading 20.5 correct out of 48 questions 43%

Math 19.5 correct out of 46 questions 43%

Writing 25 correct out of 48 questions 52%

Science 23 correct out of 48 questions 48%

Social Studies 22 correct out of 48 questions 46%

Before we hurt ourselves patting one another on the back, remember that these tests are taken the spring of the sophomore year. The tests challenge students to exhibit what they have learned in grades 1-9, so effectively they receive another year of instruction for the test.

PROFICIENT is not worth celebrating in a district with students, teachers, parents and facilities of this caliber.
Media Masters

Springfield, OH

#31558 Jun 19, 2014
Today Boro E News prattles on and on about praise and worship for our newly assigned School building principals being introduced at Jeff Stec's community engagement meetings, June 24, promoting ONE Future of Union Solidarity against ALL Springboro Families, except those families for SURE union controlled activists promoting unnecessary NEW school levy tax increases.

Keep in mind that Todd Petrey is wasting $12,000 plus of our school tax dollars in contract to Jeff Stec, an outside hired union steward facilitator who is highly paid to "hear our voices."

At the same time, Union Solidarity board president Charles Anderson and Union Solidarity school superintendent Todd Petrey have announced that June 24 regular BOE public business meeting is CANCELLED, thereby shutting out the "Voices" of the community from attending a board meeting, speaking freely, and having "our voices heard" by our five Board of Education elected officials and our School District Employees, regarding our concerns about important school district issues such as Policy and Budget/Finance!

And Insanely Hypocritical is what this Big Picture of Education in our One Boro Community with the One Rule of Many Union Solidarity Voice looks like, under the leadership of our union controlled school boardpresident/vicepresident, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone representing only the Springboro Education Association re-emphasis with our multi-million dollar school budget.

Education in Springboro is all about money and power and who has control of both. But where is Representation of our Children First in Moving Ahead with that status quo tunnel vision?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31559 Jun 19, 2014
Got Respect wrote:
<quoted text>
Your One Voice (One Vote) is Recognized.
But why no respect for others who see differently?
Why do you believe your ONE VOICE is so big in getting out YOUR message, that the ONE VOICE of others "seems small and inconsequential" in comparison?
On the contrary, I am but one voice who backs up his opinions with as many facts as I can muster. The ONE VOICE by comparison rarely provides anything more than whining.

Give us something to get behind, not plaintive cries in the wilderness.

For instance what is in it for the children?

Where is the benefit for the children?

How will this help the children garner a better education for the tax dollars the citizens of the community provide?
good ways to burn time

Springfield, OH

#31560 Jun 19, 2014
Media Masters wrote:
Today Boro E News prattles on and on about praise and worship for our newly assigned School building principals being introduced at Jeff Stec's community engagement meetings, June 24, promoting ONE Future of Union Solidarity against ALL Springboro Families, except those families for SURE union controlled activists promoting unnecessary NEW school levy tax increases.
Keep in mind that Todd Petrey is wasting $12,000 plus of our school tax dollars in contract to Jeff Stec, an outside hired union steward facilitator who is highly paid to "hear our voices."
Top 6 things to do with your family instead of attending upcoming Jeff Stec / Todd Petrey Community Pro-Levy Indoctrination Sessions:

1) Bring your entire family to North Park's amphitheater to reinact the now infamous Maney / Babb full moon duet... "Look for the Union Label"
2) Find heightened levels of personal inspiration after viewing Patricia Allyn Park's multi thousand dollar "Concrete Apron to Nowhere".
3) "Drop"... in at any Clear Creek fire station to witness ongoing progress of the 2014 CCFD stairwell-surfing playoffs.
4) Play "bull$h!+ bingo" with fellow taxpayers at the next CC township trustee meeting whenever it's obvious some or all of a meeting has been rehearsed.
5) Take your family for a cruise around CC township to view all the unneccessarily-purchased vacant farmland that each and every CC homeowner is being forced to pay for.
6) Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Condition.
Contrariwise

Springfield, OH

#31561 Jun 19, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing we really lack is the will to do is change our focus from doing better for the union to doing better for our children.
Our schools are not social welfare employment agencies and produce but one product, an educated child at the end of the educational conveyor.
On the contrary, Springboro voters do not lack the WILL to change our focus from doing better for the union to doing better for our children. This was proven in November 2011 when Springboro voters elected Two Children First BOE candidates, instead of Two of the Four Union First school board candidates.

This was proven again in August 2012 when school superintendent was hired in Springboro schools to do better for our children under the leadership of our Children First Budgeting winning agenda, than our former superintendent who resigned because of conflicts of loyalty to his Union First agenda.

It is proven in Springboro Schools that our school superintendent is the ONE who really lacks the will to focus on doing better for our children, by his recent actions taken to ignore the progress made during the past two years under the Children First BOE leadership; while taking control of Board Committees to renew the old status quo direction of doing better for the union.

For SURE it seems "where there's a will, there's a way of doing better for the union in Springboro schools, no matter who wins elections, nor how much Taxpayers pay.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31562 Jun 19, 2014
Contrariwise wrote:
<quoted text>
On the contrary, Springboro voters do not lack the WILL to change our focus from doing better for the union to doing better for our children. This was proven in November 2011 when Springboro voters elected Two Children First BOE candidates, instead of Two of the Four Union First school board candidates.
This was proven again in August 2012 when school superintendent was hired in Springboro schools to do better for our children under the leadership of our Children First Budgeting winning agenda, than our former superintendent who resigned because of conflicts of loyalty to his Union First agenda.
It is proven in Springboro Schools that our school superintendent is the ONE who really lacks the will to focus on doing better for our children, by his recent actions taken to ignore the progress made during the past two years under the Children First BOE leadership; while taking control of Board Committees to renew the old status quo direction of doing better for the union.
For SURE it seems "where there's a will, there's a way of doing better for the union in Springboro schools, no matter who wins elections, nor how much Taxpayers pay.
The Superintendent is an employee of the Board of Education (BOE). If the BOE dictates he move in a certain direction, in that direction he will so move or suffer the consequences. The Superintendent has not perfumed all of those changes in a vacuum, he was directed to do so by a BOE duly elected by the majority of those voting.

If you wish to see a change in policy or procedure the only way to do that is to show up and be heard.

Are you for or against transparency in our government?

Are you for or against the concept of the sunshine laws?

Are you for or against using the levers of power to discomfort parents until they give the union what they wish?

Are you for or against living within the budget the people of this community provide?

Are you for or against using the budget forecasts to game the system with construed information and inflated assumptions?

Are you for or against providing our children a real education that can be measured on a basic state test?

Are you for or against labeling children who score 43% on a reading or math test PROFICIENT and ready to face the world with that level of knowledge?

Are you for or against our obtaining the best value we can out of every tax dollar provided?

Are you for or against keeping teachers employed that fail our children year after year?

They are your children and your tax dollars.

You have a voice, whether you choose to use that voice is entirely up to you.
Super Power

Springfield, OH

#31563 Jun 20, 2014
Only Three Little Words Are Powerful Enough to Respond to ONE Future of SEA Union Solidarity Rule of Continuous Stream of New Levy Requests Against Springboro Taxpayers - NO NEW TAXES!

Only 51% of Votes Are Needed To Stop the School Superintendent from throwing our Kids under the bus in the direction of doing good for the Union for Sure.

No need to Waste more Taxpayers Time Nor Energy in Speaking Up, Trying to Reason with the Foolishness of our school superintendent's Renewed Tunnel Vision of MoreRons failed Status Quo past practices.

Only YOU have that ONE Voice to speak up for our Children First Voting NO NEW TAXES for the Good of the Union; Whether you choose to use that voice is entirely up to you.

Having taken a stand for your own principles of what's right based on your own values and beliefs in teaching for eternity VS teaching
K-12 for High School Graduation Equals a Winner at the polls, no matter who wins elections, nor how many greedy man made laws allows our local government to legally Overtax its citizens.

Doing what's right for our school children and community members really isn't All About The Money--Plain and Simple, It's All About doing what's Right, even when doing our school children and community members WRONG is insanely popular for SURE, under the leadership of our union controlled BOE majority leaders.
Boro Summertime Blues

Springfield, OH

#31564 Jun 20, 2014
good ways to burn time wrote:
<quoted text>
Top 6 things to do with your family instead of attending upcoming Jeff Stec / Todd Petrey Community Pro-Levy Indoctrination Sessions:
1) Bring your entire family to North Park's amphitheater to reinact the now infamous Maney / Babb full moon duet... "Look for the Union Label"
2) Find heightened levels of personal inspiration after viewing Patricia Allyn Park's multi thousand dollar "Concrete Apron to Nowhere".
3) "Drop"... in at any Clear Creek fire station to witness ongoing progress of the 2014 CCFD stairwell-surfing playoffs.
4) Play "bull$h!+ bingo" with fellow taxpayers at the next CC township trustee meeting whenever it's obvious some or all of a meeting has been rehearsed.
5) Take your family for a cruise around CC township to view all the unneccessarily-purchased vacant farmland that each and every CC homeowner is being forced to pay for.
6) Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Condition.
And the People Said Amen! Totally Agree!

No time in our family celebration of Summer to sit around the union masters table in Petrey/Stec community meetings of FEAR (false evidence appearing real) that Boro is in danger of Brain Drain if Petrey doesn't get a New school tax levy for the union passed in 2015!
sad but true

Springfield, OH

#31565 Jun 20, 2014
Boro parent wrote:
<quoted text>
These days, we hear it all over the media. We even hear about it at sports events, like major league baseball games. Nationally, statewide, and locally, there are forces that are putting on a lot of effort and expense in order to build and promote the overall image of American public school teachers.
This is disturbing in that it's contributing to increased public misconception about teachers.
As aforementioned, Springboro has a lot of excellent teachers. Springboro unfortunately also has under union contract a certain number of teachers who are both tenured, are currently too inept to teach, and/or are underperforming. Unless an offense is particularly serious (such as theft) locally, the SEA goes out of its way to cover the backs of teachers. Also locally, regardless of whether they're effective or ineffective, Springboro's reigning superintendent is obviously all about covering the backs of his subordinates.
So, where is the crime being committed? Begin by peeking inside the door of the local teachers union. Both locally and nationally, teachers union reps are trained to absolutely refuse to accept "educator underperformace" as a legitimate reason to attend a hearing in order to consider a teacher's dismissal.
While the American teacher continues to be placed onto a collective pedestal, students here in the Boro as well as all over the nation continue to get cheated out of better, more rewarding K-12 educations. To cut to the chase, either severely amending or completely abolishing teacher employment tenure policy will make great strides toward opening many doors for this nations' students by the way of increasing the overall quality of their K-12 education. This will allow superindendents to not be intimidated (as many are today) by union-mandated employment policy. By having more reign to disciple teachers, by having more reign to call teachers to the BOE podium to respond to alleged discretions, superintendents will then be free to finally place focus where it has belonged all along -.on students. Because students overall will then enjoy a better quality of teacher, an elimination /restriction of tenure eventually sets the stage for students to realize better post-graduate opportunites.
Ask any junior or senior at SHS whos' taking advanced Spanish about fellow peers they may be aware of who have felt compelled to drop this foreign language after 2 to 3 years of concerted effort. Without a doubt they'll tell you the reason many students are (perennially) forced to bail toward another elective is because of subpar performance of a certain SJHS teacher. Letters / e-mails have been sent by a number of frustrated parents around the district to the superintendent, who most certainly has to be acutely aware of the situation.

The fact of the matter is, if an educator has achieved tenure, teacher's union contracts prohibit public school district administrators / BOE's to doing not a lot more than wrist-slapping (i.e. Molly gate)........unless any offense is heightened to the seriousness of theft, etc.
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31566 Jun 20, 2014
sad but true wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask any junior or senior at SHS whos' taking advanced Spanish about fellow peers they may be aware of who have felt compelled to drop this foreign language after 2 to 3 years of concerted effort. Without a doubt they'll tell you the reason many students are (perennially) forced to bail toward another elective is because of subpar performance of a certain SJHS teacher. Letters / e-mails have been sent by a number of frustrated parents around the district to the superintendent, who most certainly has to be acutely aware of the situation.
The fact of the matter is, if an educator has achieved tenure, teacher's union contracts prohibit public school district administrators / BOE's to doing not a lot more than wrist-slapping (i.e. Molly gate)........unless any offense is heightened to the seriousness of theft, etc.
Doesn't the true professional value most the things worked hardest to get?

While recognition of a job well done can be a good thing, because it encourages working harder; but getting too easily may develop a sense of entitlement, whether or not it is earned
by "hardly working."

"That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly."
-Thomas Paine
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31567 Jun 20, 2014
Could this be the One Future "Mission and Vision Statement" for Springboro Schools SEA, whose values and beliefs in education mean
"Getting too easily" while hardly working at all as others in the community, who so generously finance our tax-paying funded Springboro schools?

Can anybody spell: E-l-i-t-i-s-t E-n-t-i-t-l-e-m-e-n-t?

"The school board was freely stating its plans to move to a merit pay systems, bring health insurance in line with the private sector and have teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community."(from OEA website article submitted by Scott Maney, Springboro Education Association President, and Marla Bell, OEA/LRC)
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31569 Jun 21, 2014
sad but true wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask any junior or senior at SHS whos' taking advanced Spanish about fellow peers they may be aware of who have felt compelled to drop this foreign language after 2 to 3 years of concerted effort. Without a doubt they'll tell you the reason many students are (perennially) forced to bail toward another elective is because of subpar performance of a certain SJHS teacher. Letters / e-mails have been sent by a number of frustrated parents around the district to the superintendent, who most certainly has to be acutely aware of the situation.
The fact of the matter is, if an educator has achieved tenure, teacher's union contracts prohibit public school district administrators / BOE's to doing not a lot more than wrist-slapping (i.e. Molly gate)........unless any offense is heightened to the seriousness of theft, etc.
Who is this certain "elitist" SJHS teacher (who obviously feels exempt from working as hard as fellow community members to earn our daily bread)?

Our school superintendent's MVP invitation states "Public Schools Belong to the Community" but questions from the "Community" regarding important school district issues like policy making and budget/finance matters are dismissed by our school district leaders and board president, Charles Anderson.

If parents have sent emails to the school superintendent, then aren't these emails subject to public review? How can community members move through the "politically correct" process of requesting and obtaining these complaints to the superintendent? Todd Petrey has been heard saying that he believes the complaints of parents should go through the "levels of accountability" such as a parent should first talk to the classroom teacher; then if the complaint is not resolved to the parent's satisfaction regarding their child's experience in the classroom, the parent should take up the complaint with the building principal who is the Teacher's superior; then if the principal cannot hold teacher accountable, the parents' complaint should then be taken to the superintendent.

Have copies of these "frustrations" of subpar performance of SJHS teacher been sent by concerned parents to editors of local newspapers?

How can our community as a whole (made up of 67% of households with NO children enrolled in our Springboro Schools with a Union Teacher in Every Classroom) know that our school tax dollars are being wasted by our union classroom teachers, unless concerned parents inform all Springboro Stakeholders?

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