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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Name

Cincinnati, OH

#30422 Feb 14, 2014
The way in which Mr. Petroni is acting towards this child at the high school is despicable.
Phil

Akron, OH

#30423 Feb 14, 2014
Waste Watchers wrote:
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Did you know that school superintendent Mr. Petrey wants the Board of Education members to bless this waste of $12,000 of Taxpayers money to interrogate ALL stakeholders in Springboro to find out "what are the Values in Beliefs of Springboro Taxpayers?
It's true..... Mr. Petrey wants to waste our hard earned school tax dollars to hire an outside facilitator to set up and meet with his Focus Groups, charging Taxpayers to confess our Values and Beliefs so that the union teachers can determine the SEA's perceived un-met needs of the school district, so that this SEA/MSA manufactured budget crisis can be addressed in the five year forecast that is up for review by the new board in April.
Do You think Mr. Petrey should waste our Money seeking out the opinions of Springboro citizens (including Sonny Thomas and Kelly Kohls) by hiring this outside facilitator group to come into our school district and survey opinions of Taxpayers, when Taxpayers can speak freely of our concerns on the new Sonny Thomas radio show and Taxpayers can speak freely in the public school board meetings, bringing concerns and questions directly to the attention of our five BOE elected officials under the leadership of Mr.Anderson, Board President?
I bet if you change it to Kelly Kohls and Charter Schools you'd be all for it!
Phil

Akron, OH

#30424 Feb 14, 2014
And Petroni is a sad excuse of a man...
The More You Know

Tipp City, OH

#30425 Feb 14, 2014
Phil wrote:
And Petroni is a sad excuse of a man...
So much for "Children's First". Is that an example of how the OSBLC teaches board members to deal with children?
Smells Like Union Smearin

Lebanon, OH

#30426 Feb 14, 2014
Since the poster is anonymous how do you know what their demographic profile looks like. This looks and smells like another union smear campaign about nothing. Petroni must be onto something big if the union is hitting these tactics already. Wake up ronnie and ask him for some answers.
The More You Know

Tipp City, OH

#30427 Feb 14, 2014
Smells Like Union Smearin wrote:
Since the poster is anonymous how do you know what their demographic profile looks like. This looks and smells like another union smear campaign about nothing. Petroni must be onto something big if the union is hitting these tactics already. Wake up ronnie and ask him for some answers.
Education is a valuable thing. Try doing some reading. It's definitely something.
Who is Accountable

Springfield, OH

#30428 Feb 14, 2014
accountability wrote:
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Obviously, Springboro City Schools treasurer Terrah Floyd is not in agreement with your assessment.
http://eagnews.org/ohio-teacher-improperly-us...
"In the district document reviewed by EAGnews, Springboro Treasurer Terrah Floyd acknowledges that the student information Wray used to send her email was protected under Ohio state law and the federal government’s Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)."
What About Molly?
Stand Up For Kids

Springfield, OH

#30429 Feb 14, 2014
Working in the world of state-level education policy, frustration and disappointment are part of the job. I admit to giving in to frustration and even a little anger over the past year at the all-too-frequent hypocrisy.
Everyone always says,“It’s about the kids,” but in reality, policy too often has little to do with children or their well-being. The focus always seems to come down to adults and institutions doing what they do best — protecting their status quo.
Of course organizations advocate for their members. That’s to be expected. The real problem is that no one is representing children.
When was the last time you saw someone in Columbus advocating for great leadership, effective teachers and the kind of education that will prepare children for success?
But children don’t vote, and children do not have the financial resources to pay for their own lobbyists to combat those representing adults’ interests. Unfortunately, by the time children realize that we adults have failed them, it’s too late.
Our failure to ensure that every child receives a quality education has effectively relegated far too many of Ohio’s children to less-than-bright futures.
One thing I have learned over the past year on the State Board of Education is that education is mostly about power and money and who gets to control both. As a result, objections to new policies are marked by cries that change is unfair or bad for “our members.” Rarely do we hear a policy discussion start with protestations that something is simply “not good for kids.”
Members of the public should ask the members of the education establishment a simple question: When is the last time that you, or the organizations that represent you in Columbus, ever advocated for something that benefits students but also resulted in less money or power for your constituency?
School boards, administrators, superintendents, treasurers, teachers' unions and every kind of specialty group have someone advocating on behalf of their group of adults and vested interests.
The only time they work together is to stop or delay change or to demand more money with no explanation of how they account for new or existing money.
This spring, the big debates are about the Common Core standards and the third-grade reading guarantee. Those representing adults said,“Let’s delay accountability,” and “Let’s lower the standards.” Why?
They admit that they will not do anything different if standards are delayed. They even suggest that a third-grader who has “limited” reading proficiency — the lowest level of achievement, below “basic” and “proficient”— should be passed along for one more year of the same.
Parents and taxpayers should ask themselves why we should stick with the standards and practices that have been in place for 10 or 20 years. We don’t lug around two-pound cell phones any more. We demand that our food be healthier, our cars safer and our environment cleaner, so why not the improvement of our education standards and practices so our children can compete in the new global economy?
The time has come for a comprehensive plan that really moves our state toward realistic college- and career-ready standards instead of waiting until three years from now when the Common Core is scheduled to be implemented.
We should design a fair and accurate accountability system that actually insists on acceptable progress for every student every year and requires that every school and district set and meet improvement goals, no matter where they “rank.”
And can we agree once and for all that it’s not unreasonable to expect that every child should be able to read by the time he or she completes third grade?
I am not suggesting that we move ahead without doing our due diligence. If we need a little additional time to get these policies just right, so be it, but we cannot take too long. We’re on the clock, and time is running out for too many of Ohio’s children.
Thomas W. Gunlock is a member of the State Board of Education.
Stand Up For Kids

Springfield, OH

#30430 Feb 14, 2014
accountability wrote:
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Obviously, Springboro City Schools treasurer Terrah Floyd is not in agreement with your assessment.
http://eagnews.org/ohio-teacher-improperly-us...
"In the district document reviewed by EAGnews, Springboro Treasurer Terrah Floyd acknowledges that the student information Wray used to send her email was protected under Ohio state law and the federal government’s Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)."
Who will stand up for kids?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30431 Feb 15, 2014
Certainly not the education union, their agenda and focus is on the adults in the education system.
The More You Know

Tipp City, OH

#30432 Feb 15, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Certainly not the education union, their agenda and focus is on the adults in the education system.
You forgot to include a certain board member as displayed by recent events.
Never Forget

Springfield, OH

#30433 Feb 15, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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You forgot to include a certain board member as displayed by recent events.
Never Forget OEA's Becky V Words asking Taxpayers: don't they know this is war?

With nothing but Vote for Revenge to rally against good Springboro citizens/board members,
Ron's insanely popular agenda of lusting for more money for the SEA just goes on and on.....
Never Forget

Springfield, OH

#30434 Feb 15, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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You forgot to include a certain board member as displayed by recent events.
Never Forget board member Ron Malone's manipulation of our high school students, as he led them to violate their own code of conduct according to board by-laws and policies,
in support of Ron's protest against board authority during his March 2012 efforts to over-turn the results of the 2011 school board election of the two board members putting Children First.
Never Forget

Springfield, OH

#30435 Feb 15, 2014
@ Stand Up For Kids Thomas Gunlock states: Everyone always says,“It’s about the kids,” but in reality, policy too often has little to do with children or their well-being. The focus always seems to come down to adults and institutions doing what they do best — protecting their status quo.

Never Forget that our SEA members/union activists sneered and jeered Guest Speaker from the Department of Education, during Ron Malone's March 2012 protest against the state mandates of changing the classroom grading system and the school district rating system.

Never Forget that Ron Malone sat smiling in the high school auditorium nodding his head in approval as he watched his high school students stand up in public board meeting, asking BOE elected officials: which one of you is lying?

Oh What a Man, What A Man is that insanely popular Ron Malone, who has been a SHS high school princiPAL, operating our high school like a union shop, while dumbing down our curriculum and wasting district funds and resources.... all for the love of the SEA's lustful greed for more than they need......
Never Forget

Springfield, OH

#30436 Feb 15, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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You forgot to include a certain board member as displayed by recent events.
Never Forget that a certain board member has been demonized/criticized/and falsely accused, for sure, by the OEA/SEA war of words against Our Children First....

Just because, several years ago when, as a concerned, private citizen he set out to Educate Springboro to the Truth that Education in our Local School District is not about investing in the OSBA status quo...as board member Ron Malone believes that we need to put the re-emphasis on the Value of the Educator first (even to the detriment of our children's safety and other physical aspects of education including properly maintained facilities, updated technology, and new 21st century classroom curriculum and quality teachers).

Stay Alert Voters -- Never Forget: We must invest in our Vision of Reform, working together in the direction of financial sustainability, to provide a better future for our school children and community.

Simply Put, Springboro School Board Member, David Petroni, states:

"It's Really About Putting Kids First -- Not Adults First."

...And That's A Good Thing for our students, our school employees and our Springboro Family of Taxpayers/Voters.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30437 Feb 15, 2014
"Although Springboro High School offers numerous AP and PSEO options, only 20% of the students report hey attempted to earn college credits during high school. This is a decrease of 43% from 2008 and 60% below the High Schools That Works goal."

This is from the Warren County Educational Service Center audit of our high school program of studies report.

13 years of driving a culture of excellence into mediocrity will be hard to reverse and shall not be overcome in a single year. This reversal of course will take just as long as the road to mediocrity took to take us to our present circumstances. For that we can thank rubber stamp boards who were bamboozled by benignly smiling educational "experts" pursuing phony euphemistic standards.

This also demonstrates the inability of some to chase simultaneous goals of first and foremost educating our children to utmost of their potential while concurrently attempting to be loved by one and all.

The loved by one and all seems to have won out over true educational attainment crowd by quite a margin.

Even though your children may say they hate you now because you make them do things they do not want to do, they will thank you when it counts down the road in their lives.

Funny how that works out generation after generation after generation for those with the guts to do the adult thing.
union

Springfield, OH

#30438 Feb 15, 2014
Smells Like Union Smearin wrote:
Since the poster is anonymous how do you know what their demographic profile looks like. This looks and smells like another union smear campaign about nothing. Petroni must be onto something big if the union is hitting these tactics already. Wake up ronnie and ask him for some answers.
If this Anonymous Panther does end up being a union member and this is a "union smear campaign" - I'll take a "smear campaign" that encourages random acts of kindness every day of the week.

And yes Ronnie as you call him should be asking questions...one big one...Mr. Petroni, will you please resign?
deadly

Dayton, OH

#30439 Feb 15, 2014
union wrote:
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If this Anonymous Panther does end up being a union member and this is a "union smear campaign" - I'll take a "smear campaign" that encourages random acts of kindness every day of the week.
And yes Ronnie as you call him should be asking questions...one big one...Mr. Petroni, will you please resign?
wow, it's statements like that , that make me vote against every levy backed by crazies like you and your ilk.
union

Springfield, OH

#30440 Feb 15, 2014
deadly wrote:
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wow, it's statements like that , that make me vote against every levy backed by crazies like you and your ilk.
So, you are against random acts of kindness? And I am one of the "crazies"????
deadly

Dayton, OH

#30441 Feb 15, 2014
union wrote:
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So, you are against random acts of kindness? And I am one of the "crazies"????
no, against the unions that are constantly whining about their wages," damn the shape of the economy, we want more money..."

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