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proof

Springboro, OH

#30271 Jan 31, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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Again, as you always say, where's the PROOF. Also you forgot that he wasn't alone in charge of the oversight, reading what you quoted the policy to be).
Keep hunting, and when you think you're done, look in the mirror......
Don't bother with Mr. Wiedeman. He is a hypocrite as has been illustrated many times. He holds a much higher standard for others than he does himself. He counsels others not to call people names and attack others, yet he attacks Dr. Malone relentlessly. He tells people to provide proof of their comments, yet does not provide any proof of his own comments. He throws out numbers such as the $1,000,000 like it is fact, when he himself stated the prosecutor could not PROVE any more than what Mr. Harves was charged with. If you repeat something enough, even without PROOF, he believes it makes it fact.
The Record Speaks Truth

Springfield, OH

#30272 Jan 31, 2014
proof wrote:
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Don't bother with Mr. Wiedeman. He is a hypocrite as has been illustrated many times. He holds a much higher standard for others than he does himself. He counsels others not to call people names and attack others, yet he attacks Dr. Malone relentlessly. He tells people to provide proof of their comments, yet does not provide any proof of his own comments. He throws out numbers such as the $1,000,000 like it is fact, when he himself stated the prosecutor could not PROVE any more than what Mr. Harves was charged with. If you repeat something enough, even without PROOF, he believes it makes it fact.
The only "proof" in your post is that you are blind to the TRUTH about Ron Malone.

Mr. Wiedeman does not attack Dr. Malone relentlessly.

Mr. Wiedeman has provided a great public service to this community; investing his own time and his own financial resources, plus his expertise of digging "inside" our tax-payer funded education business and informing the "outside community" about what's going on beyond the symbolism of our insanely popular Dr. Malone, who has been a SHS principal;
and is now a BOE member.

Springboro Taxpayers owe a debt of thanks and gratitude to Springboro Parent, Doug Wiedeman, for telling us the TRUTH about Dr. Malone; and now Springboro Taxpayers are spreading that truth, educating Springboro Voters that Ron Malone has got to be stopped in the board room from repeating his own True History of Past Failed Practices.

People in this community need to wake up and just keep spreading the TRUTH about Dr. Malone;The more TRUTH people know, the more people will know... that Ron Malone just has to go.....

Taxpayers in this community are not willing to INVEST MORE of our hard-earned school tax dollars in Ron Malone's status quo.... business as usual.
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30273 Jan 31, 2014
historian wrote:
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Yea, and millions voted for Hitler.
Millions voted for Reagan, what's your point?
historian

Dayton, OH

#30274 Jan 31, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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Millions voted for Reagan, what's your point?
and millions voted for Obama...point being, the one that wins isn't necessarily the right choice.
And The People Said Amen

Springfield, OH

#30275 Jan 31, 2014
historian wrote:
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and millions voted for Obama...point being, the one that wins isn't necessarily the right choice.
Everything that's Right is not always Popular; and Everything that's Popular is not always Right.

But Ron Malone's true history now proves that all along our insanely popular principal has always been wrong for our Students first and his misallocation of district and taxpayer resources; robbing resources from areas of greater need in our district; running our high school like a union shop; making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those union members whose skills were not in demand. There simply is no Right Way to do Wrong, not even way down low in Boro (no matter if you are a beloved high school principal or a beloved false idol such as a sports coach).
proof

Springboro, OH

#30276 Jan 31, 2014
The Record Speaks Truth wrote:
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The only "proof" in your post is that you are blind to the TRUTH about Ron Malone.
Mr. Wiedeman does not attack Dr. Malone relentlessly.
Really? Just about every single one of Mr. Wiedeman's posts over the past week (and many more previous to that during the election) have been about Dr. Malone.

To quote the great Ace Ventura, "Obsess much????"
Yes Really

Springfield, OH

#30277 Jan 31, 2014
proof wrote:
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Really? Just about every single one of Mr. Wiedeman's posts over the past week (and many more previous to that during the election) have been about Dr. Malone.
To quote the great Ace Ventura, "Obsess much????"
Yes, Really. Every single one of Mr. Wiedeman's post about Dr. Malone are true and we've only just begun spreading the truth on this blog and throughout the Boro. Does "proof" have a problem with community members hearing the truth from the "inside?"

Why is "proof" appearing fearful of the truth about Malone? Guess the truth DOES hurt when the truth exposes Dr. Malone's "obsession" with his own INSANELY popular reputation as false god of education.

It's understood that the truth about Mr. Malone's under-performing practices as SHS principal may be old outdated news to those on the "inside" these past 13 years of Malone's employment; but those community taxpayers/voters on the outside are just becoming educated to Mr. Malone's inept leadership tactics and misallocation of district and taxpayer resources. Have YOU seen that video that is floating around throughout the Boro for the first time to outsiders?) Shame, Shame, on Dr. Malone's out of control ego! Shame, Shame that students were forced outside their classrooms to participate in this false worship of an old man ( just because he is fortunate enough to have been employed by Springboro Taxpayers as high school principal!) Whew!..... we can all be glad and give thanks today that Malone is no longer employed as SHS principal. Still, we can never allow ourselves to forget the truth about Ron Malone, who has now lost the special place of trust, authority and influence in our community because of "the more you know...."
reality

Springfield, OH

#30278 Jan 31, 2014
And The People Said Amen wrote:
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Everything that's Right is not always Popular; and Everything that's Popular is not always Right.
But Ron Malone's true history now proves that all along our insanely popular principal has always been wrong for our Students first and his misallocation of district and taxpayer resources; robbing resources from areas of greater need in our district; running our high school like a union shop; making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those union members whose skills were not in demand. There simply is no Right Way to do Wrong, not even way down low in Boro (no matter if you are a beloved high school principal or a beloved false idol such as a sports coach).
Q # 1...How many attendees of last night's PULSE meeting at SHS have attended a school board meeting since Ron Malone was sworn in?

Q # 2 ...If Malone continues this current habit of being an absolute jerkoff in the board room, how long before his pseudo-identity of being (ahem) "insanely popular" is exposed as being nothing more than a SHS fantasy game of smoke and mirrors?

Ron Malone ought to publically apologize in the board room for USING the youth of this community during the 13 years he was principal at SHS!!
Pray for Bro Ron

Springfield, OH

#30279 Jan 31, 2014
reality wrote:
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Q # 1...How many attendees of last night's PULSE meeting at SHS have attended a school board meeting since Ron Malone was sworn in?
Q # 2 ...If Malone continues this current habit of being an absolute jerkoff in the board room, how long before his pseudo-identity of being (ahem) "insanely popular" is exposed as being nothing more than a SHS fantasy game of smoke and mirrors?
Ron Malone ought to publically apologize in the board room for USING the youth of this community during the 13 years he was principal at SHS!!
Let's all pray for Brother Ron; asking that he feel conviction for erring in his status quo business as usual old outdated ways!

Let's all pray that Brother Ron will testify publicly in apology for USING the youth of this community, gathering them under his wings in protection of his own ego, draining their highest academic achievement potential, and dumbing down their curriculum, wasting school tax dollars and district resources. Let's all pray courage for Brother Ron to learn that it is never too late to Stand Up for doing what's right for our school children and community and just Step Down from the BOE bully pulpit.

Let's all pray that Brother Ron can get a Vision of the applause-applause and standing ovation of Springboro families who just might form a "celebrity tunnel" for Brother Ron to burst through on his way out of the LGI room after his "early" retirement as Number 2 popular board member -- just like the celebration of praise that his students were forced to perform for him in the video for the retirement of good old boy double dipping Brother Ron!

(by the way -- have heard that this video is floating around the Boro; but does anybody actually have a link to this fiasco that Brother Ron caused his students last May 2013?)
Enough

Springfield, OH

#30280 Jan 31, 2014
Dr. Malone got quite a few votes for his position on the school board! I think our community made it clear who we want making decisions for our kids!! We BELIEVE in him!
HAHAHAHA

Springfield, OH

#30281 Jan 31, 2014
Enough wrote:
Dr. Malone got quite a few votes for his position on the school board! I think our community made it clear who we want making decisions for our kids!! We BELIEVE in him!
It is agreed that our community has had Enough of Dr. Malone using our students to his own self-glory; but those good old days are over now that Malone is in the board room. You can Keep Your Belief in him; Just Keep his hands out of the pockets of Springboro families.

It has already been proven (along with Malone's true history of past failed practices) that this school district doesn't need more money; it just needs more accountability.

Malone will need more than quite a few votes for his position on School Tax Increases. The only thing our community made clear is that even an under-performing, arrogantly rude and quite lazy-minded "has been a principal for the PAST thirteen years" really can win election on name recognition; and a well-funded two-year advertising campaign. Malone is mistaken if he thinks the community was voting him number two board meeting so that he could raise taxes to feed his addiction for more, more, more dues for the union. Enough is Enough.
Enough

Springfield, OH

#30282 Feb 1, 2014
It should be all about the kids!!! YOU are all about money! I agree enough is enough!!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30283 Feb 1, 2014
Enough wrote:
It should be all about the kids!!! YOU are all about money! I agree enough is enough!!
I it is all about efficiently and effectively educating ALL of the children of this district to the utmost of the children's potential.

It costs money to educate our children, 80% of our school district budget is dedicated towards human resources. How we utilize that expenditure to maximize the amount of knowledge our children receive is the issue.

For all of everyone's protestations about this being for the kids, this is not an altruistic calling, NO ONE is working for free in education.

What we do expect is that our tax dollars are spent with the well being of the children's education first and foremost in budgeting our scarce tax dollars.

Reward our teachers who do outstanding work, and punitively reward those whose performance is substandard.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30284 Feb 1, 2014
proof wrote:
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Don't bother with Mr. Wiedeman. He is a hypocrite as has been illustrated many times. He holds a much higher standard for others than he does himself. He counsels others not to call people names and attack others, yet he attacks Dr. Malone relentlessly. He tells people to provide proof of their comments, yet does not provide any proof of his own comments. He throws out numbers such as the $1,000,000 like it is fact, when he himself stated the prosecutor could not PROVE any more than what Mr. Harves was charged with. If you repeat something enough, even without PROOF, he believes it makes it fact.
Please, at least know your definitions, such as for hypocrisy,

a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion

Regarding poor Mr. Malone, I report merely the facts as his professional peers report in audit reviews of his program and yearly evaluations report on his performance.

The prosecutor was forced to rely on Mr. Harves "word of honor", because for some reason no one had eve bothered to verify or keep records of anything. Are you suggesting that a man brazen enough to write checks to himself from funds raised to support our children's activities never took a dime from the bags of uncounted cash sitting on his kitchen table?

Mr. Malone we are lead to believe was all about supporting our children and watching over them with his benevolent eye. Somehow he managed to overlook the fact that the Booster Club supporting his athletes had not filed a tax return since 2005. The groups you depend upon to support the schools should be of some concern to a normal administrator.

If a chowder head like myself can see holes in this process after working in those concession stands just once, how would a genius like Mr. Malone be unable to discern these shortcomings over a 12 year period?

And don't get me started on his feigned ignorance of the standards for PROFICIENT on the Ohio Graduation Tests.

My concern is genuine for the education of ALL of the children of this district, that funds raised for the children actually get to the children, and our academic standards reflect our communities high expectations rather than a state mandated low bar.
Say It Again

Springfield, OH

#30285 Feb 1, 2014
reality wrote:
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Q # 1...How many attendees of last night's PULSE meeting at SHS have attended a school board meeting since Ron Malone was sworn in?
Q # 2 ...If Malone continues this current habit of being an absolute jerkoff in the board room, how long before his pseudo-identity of being (ahem) "insanely popular" is exposed as being nothing more than a SHS fantasy game of smoke and mirrors?
Ron Malone ought to publically apologize in the board room for USING the youth of this community during the 13 years he was principal at SHS!!
Ron Malone ought to publically apologize in the board room for USING the youth of this community during the 13 years he was principal at SHS!!
They already hatched

United States

#30286 Feb 1, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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I have looked and looked and cannot find where the top cap is on common core. I see it as a set of what kids across this country will learn at a minimum. I see no maximum in the system.
Doesn't it seem logical that children, regardless of where they are born, have access to the same (minimum) education as everyone else? Children can't control where they are born. By focusing in most of the curriculum we keep public schools from teaching other non-essential subjects.
So if anyone can show me in the common core where it tells me what's the MOST a child can learn, it would appreciate it.
The maximum is endless. It's no different than the Ohio standards of the last several years. The standards set before you are the minimum. As teachers differentiate instruction, a requirement under the new evaluation system, they increase the rigor of the standards even more for students who need it. However, the notion that these standards are easy to begin with is completely erroneous. They are harder than what Ohio had before the core came along.
They already hatched

United States

#30287 Feb 1, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Bovine Scatology, teach the material in the book, learn the material in the book, and the rest will easily take care of itself.
If we don't have teachers capable of teaching the material, get some who can, this isn't a social welfare agency we are running.
You will find scores plummet across the nation. Be prepared for scores everywhere to be awful. In part, the number of tests in and of itself is ridiculous. Next year's Ohio sophomores will be required to take 17 tests, some of them requiring multiple hours and sessions. Not only is that much testing simply ridiculous, but also it takes away from instructional time. Bitch all you want about Springboro, but I'd lay money on the fact that Our scores won't be good, but they'll be among the best around. Don't like the test? The scoring? Etc.? You're barking up the wrong tree. Your issue should be with the state!
They already hatched

United States

#30288 Feb 1, 2014
Heres Why wrote:
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Now that the 2013 negotiations are finished, Maney has shifted away from the previous focus of current employees pay / compensation. He's now focusing on attempting to re-establish a bunch of useless elective courses so that more teachers may be hired. Of couse, the hiring of more teachers will mean more working revenue for the SEA.
Why do we have school employees running their mouths? That's an excellent question! Quite a number of students at our schools would like to know the answer to this as well.
Why are you so uninformed yet pretend to know everything? Maney isn't even there anymore.
They already hatched

United States

#30289 Feb 1, 2014
amen wrote:
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Wow! I didn't know 3 degrees F could make so much of a difference!
-6 F Tuesday........Springboro Schools are closed
-3 F Wednesday...Springboro Schools on 2 Hr Delay
I'd say it's time school district decision makers like Sprinboro's John Pennell begin to tune out the perennial wimps on the Weather Channel. When the schools are closed for nothing more than cold temperatures, what kind of example are we sending our kids? When the schools are closed for nothing more than cold weather, what kind of message are we sending to our children about potential lucrative lifelong careers as linemen, pipefitters, electricians, etc?
It's about timing and wind chill, moron.
They already hatched

United States

#30290 Feb 1, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Breaking: Allen and Kohls backing out of race.
http://www.thirdbasepolitics.com/breaking-all...
Thank you, Lord! Well, it doesn't matter if they run or not - the result would be the same. Just glad that we will have to see and hear her less. Great news! Let us rejoice!

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