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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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For the Record

Springfield, OH

#30127 Jan 23, 2014
Springboro Schools received three overall “A” grades and two overall “B” grades on the new state report card. Ohio is raising the bar with a system of A–F letter grades so that educators, parents and taxpayers can see how schools are performing and where we can improve. We are using our school performance data to guide improvements and individualized instruction for all students. For example, the savings from our efficiency plans are invested in increased gifted education and reading intervention for 2013-2014.
(check website http://reportcard.education.ohio.gov/pages/di... )

Look at the Past SHS principal Ron Malone's misallocation of district and taxpayers resources, whose tactics robbed resources from areas of greater need in the district. Those who suffered the most were the gifted and those in need of early intervention, yielding for our school district "D" grade on gifted intervention and "C" grade on the lowest 20% in achievement from state.

Look at the record:
Number of Dual College Credit Classes available when Mr. Malone retired equals - 0 -
Number of Dual College Credit Classes added after Mr. Malone retired June 30, 213 equals - 6-
Way Down Low in Boro

Springfield, OH

#30128 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
BOE meetings take place in the H.S.
Question remains "How low will Malone go" in dumbing down our Children First in the board room; just like he did in dumbing down our curriculum, running our high school like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose skills were not in demand?

Mr.Malone has already gone so low as to admit in the May 2013 Springboro Life magazine interview:

"My strengths and the board's expectations of my position do not match as well as I would like."

Does that mean that now as BOE elected official that Mr. Malone plans to "dumb down" the Vision of Reform that he protested against; so that his status quo tunnel vision will darken the bright future of putting students first, while maintaining fiscal integrity?

Does this mean that Mr. Malone has no higher goals, than re-instating his past failed practices as high school principal, in the on-going challenge to Raise the bar for our teachers and students for a Quality Classroom 21st Century Education?
O Fiddle dee dee

Springfield, OH

#30129 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Tea party...yea. Great way for Republicans to split the vote amoungst themselves giving the Democrats and easy way to most every seat up for grabs.
How well did the tea party do last election cycle???
Party? There's NO party invitation! Just grab yourself a soothing cup of warmth.... just don't forget to make it decaf... and Stay Cool!
Spread the Great News

Springfield, OH

#30130 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Notice a trend? How's that CHILDREN'S FIRST budgeting working out for ya!
Thanks for Asking!

Children First Budgeting Works!!
by dpetroni | posted in: Academics, Budget, Education, Education Reform, Performance, Policy, Public Education, School Funding, Springboro School Committee, tax levy information, voter rights | 1
On May 23, 2013, the Board of Education Unanimously adopted the recommendations of the Budget & Finance Committee. A budget that invests in our children’s education. To the best of my knowledge, never in the history of Springboro Community City Schools has so much been done without the need to raise taxes.
I encourage you to pass this message along to all of your friends and family. Please share this blog site with everyone, no matter what side of an issue they stand. It is time to rally for our children of this school district….
to learn more, visit http://educatespringboro.org and Join Educate Springboro in putting Children First. It's for our children, our community and toward a better future for our schools!
Spread the Great News

Springfield, OH

#30131 Jan 24, 2014
Children First Budget Works!...in the direction of sustainability

Look at Today and the Future!

Renewal levy saves taxpayers $6.5 million over the five year life of the levy, while continuing to generate surplus.

Reduced school fees, lower pay to participate fees, busing restored, staff cuts reversed, long neglected building and ground maintenance funded.

Efficiency plans reallocate resources from under utilized programs to gifted and early intervention. Putting Money Where It Is Needed!

District run preschool instead of outsourcing, saving $132,000 each year. Analyzing data to expose "Proficient" as Failing. Raising the bar for students and teachers.

Adding ACT/College Essentials class, balancing class sizes, and strengthening our curriculum. Emphasizing early collect credit programs through the high school, Post Secondary Enrollment Options (PSEO), Advanced Placement, and Dual Credit courses.

Coordinated technology plan with wireless access for every building, laptops to every teachers, and more than 11 new computers.

If you agree with putting Children First and support these fresh ideas that have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required....visit http://educatespringboro.org and share this information with others!

Renewal levy saves Taxpayers $6.5 million over the five year life of the levy, while continuing to generate surplus!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30132 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I thought the performance index going down year after year shold have been your first clue. You must have graduated from a school system that used Children's First Budgeting....
Perhaps you should read the headline in today's Dayton Daily News

40% of Ohio High School Graduates Not Ready for College

Then you can continue you snarky, uncaring remarks.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30133 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
How many of those asian countries use charter schools or children's first budgeting? Pretty sure they all have universal health care and teach evolution in the science class.
Oh, and they probably don't go over the "founding fathers intention" too much either.
The US in 2010 spend 21.7% of GDP per capita in 2010 50 countries spend more (asian countries included).
Yet people here still say you can spend less and get a better education. What denial....
Spending money does not guarantee either quality or value.

If I sell you a piece of crap car and you pay way too much for the car, it does not suddenly transform itself into a valuable automobile. It remains now and forever a piece of crap regardless of the amount you paid for the tub of junk.

Education is the same way, if the per pupil expenditure was the basis for the educational output the children in Washington DC should all be frigging geniuses.

Cost per pupil in Washington DC public schools is $18,475. In New York spends $19,076 per student. Are those children three times as smart as our children?

NO

The truth is when you look at the results of our program we can do much better with the resources we possess from students to teachers to facilities.

The question in the final analysis do we have the will to do better for all of our children?
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30134 Jan 24, 2014
Performance Index 2012-2013
The Performance Index measures the test results of every student, not just those who score proficient or higher. There are six levels on the index and districts receive points for every student in each of these levels. The higher the achievement level, the more the points awarded in the district's index. This rewards schools and districts for improving performance.

Ach. Level____% of Students_Points for Level_Points Received
Adv. Plus________0.5__________1.3__ ________0.6
Advanced________36.0__________ 1.2__________43.2
Accelerated_____30.8__________ 1.1__________33.9
Proficient______25.5__________ 1.0__________25.5
Basic__________5.3__________0. 6__________3.2
Limited__________1.8__________ 0.3__________0.5
Untested_________0.1__________ 0.0__________0.0
__________TOTAL:_106.9

89.1%(106.9 out of 120.0)

A = 90.0 - 100.0%
B = 80.0 - 89.9%
C = 70.0 - 79.9%
D = 50.0 - 69.9%
F = 0.0 - 49.9%

School Year Performance Index
2010 - 2011_______111.1
2011 - 2012_______110.2
2012 - 2013_______106.9

Notice a trend?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30135 Jan 24, 2014
perspective wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain your point. In what way has the former board's marked improvement in the overall business efficiency been detrimental to student performance in Springboro Community City Schools?
Wait! Wait! Don't tell me!. I know!
You're going to post that teachers and admins who aren't getting everything handed to them on a sparkling platter are going to be miserable, unhappy teachers and admins. And because a certain number of the staff is pissed off, a lot of them will openly pass their frustrations onto Boro's students in the form of increasingly less-than-par instruction methods. Yup! Got 'cha nailed!
The Performance Index program devised by the state is somewhat misleading in its purported measurement of accomplishment.

The PI is calculated by using a weighted average of individual student performance levels on the proficiency and achievement tests at grades where multiple score levels are reported. As achievement tests are implemented the scores will be included in the PI calculation beginning with the first year’s administration of the new test

It measures how many children are PROFICIENT or above. As we all should know by now PROFICIENT equals FAILURE. No child who is scoring 33%-63% on a test is PROFICIENT at anything.

Friendly euphemisms are no substitute for actual accomplishment in the classrooms.

The numbers you cite are a reflection of the culture of fun and dumbing down the program of studies across the board to reward more people with artificial "A's" on a report card that are actually deserved.

The headline in the Dayton Daily News today reflects this sad state of affairs.
School District Voter

Springfield, OH

#30136 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
How many of those asian countries use charter schools or children's first budgeting? Pretty sure they all have universal health care and teach evolution in the science class.
Oh, and they probably don't go over the "founding fathers intention" too much either.
The US in 2010 spend 21.7% of GDP per capita in 2010 50 countries spend more (asian countries included).
Yet people here still say you can spend less and get a better education. What denial....
There is No Denial in the Proven Record that Speaks Truth... in the direction of sustainability

The following article is adapted from a blog post by Springboro Board of Education Member David Petroni (a copy of which was received in the mail from the Springboro Community Schools Board of Education, dated September 2013, at my home address).

In the football stands on Friday nights, we can see a basic truth: our schools and community are inextricably tied. Public schools serve the community. And the community supports public schools. Today we stand in an almost unheard of place: We are financially prepared to give something back to the taxpayer--to give back to our community by reducing the tax burden. The renewal levy on the ballot in November will be set at a lower millage rate to reduce taxes generated by that levy by nearly 15 percent (a reduction of $1,353,800 per year). There is an assumption that if we are cutting the taxes; we must be cutting back in our schools. This is simply false.

Our recent history of five failed new money levies has challenged our district, but with Our Staff and Teachers, we have met that challenge. With data-driven decisions and careful budgeting, we have reallocated resources to do more for our kids without asking our community for higher taxes.

The budget through 2017 includes busing for all grades and a program to spend more than $2.1 million on new buses; more than $2 million in textbooks and curriculum adoption; over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance; and more than $1.1 million in new technology; as well as our current staff salaries and benefits. These needs are met in the five-year forecast even with the lower renewal levy. How is this possible?

Our district will receive 6.5% more in 2013-2014 than in the previous year from the State of Ohio (approximately $828,000) as well as 10.5% MORE in 2014 (approximately $1.2 million).

Since 2012-2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.(A second pipeline is possible; however, the district's current forecast assumptions DO NOT include the additional funding it may bring to the district).

Efficiency plans, reallocating resources, and increased revenue make the lower renewal levy possible.

If the reduced renewal levy passes on November 5 (which is now a Proven Record of Approval by school district voters) we will maintain an approximate $4 million carryover in 2017, according to our current five-year forecast.

With every step, we are proving that this district--with its record of excellence--is sustainable with an even lower tax burden. We are meeting and exceeding state mandates as well as local expectations. We are building a technology backbone, investing in computers, curriculum, buses and buildings. Most important, we are being honest about what is needed through 2017. This is reform at the local level, and this is working together toward sustainability.

Springboro's Board of Education members come from different perspectives, but they share a common goal to accelerate student achievement in Springboro, BOE members provide a critical link between Our Schools and Our Community!
More Than You Know

Springfield, OH

#30137 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Tea party...yea. Great way for Republicans to split the vote amoungst themselves giving the Democrats and easy way to most every seat up for grabs.
How well did the tea party do last election cycle???
Notice the trend???

Tuesday Jan 21 | The Cincinnati Enquirer
Fiscal conservatives rule more local school boards
The political landscape among local school boards may be changing. For the first time in the region, candidates who go by a variety of self-applied labels - fiscal conservatives, anti-tax activists, tea party activists - have won what appear to be majorities on local school boards and wield wide control over school policy choices and millions of ...(more)
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30138 Jan 24, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The headline in the Dayton Daily News today reflects this sad state of affairs.
Shows the need for common core. Too bad we can't set standards for college. Maybe the college's should try Children's First Budgeting (more with less $) Oh wait, that's right they operate in a FREE market where capitalism rules the day.

Did you notice in the article that they require applicants to take developmental courses and:
"Developmental courses cost the same as general college classes but don’t count toward a degree. Students can become discouraged and need more time and money to graduate."

Nice way for a college to collect more money and gouge the new students. Good thing the state doesn't regulate that sort of thing....

The report also states:"More students needed remediation in math, 34 percent, than English, 20 percent. And 14 percent needed to take both."

If you look at the December 2013 report for Springboro the number of students that needed developmental courses compared to the paper is as follows:

Taking Develop. Math or English State Average: 40% Springboro: 10%
Taking Develop. Math State Average: 34% Springboro: 15%
Taking Develop. English State Average: 20% Springboro: 8%
Taking BOTH Develop. Math & English State Average: 14% Springboro: 4%

Compared to the state average we look pretty outstanding.

The way people blame Dr. Malone for everything around here, I wonder how many of them will give him the credit for out performing the state average.

Once again, It's all about perspective...

You may see failure but I see that compared to the state Boro is doing pretty well. Thank you Dr. Malone!(looks like the voter's got it right at the last election!)
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30139 Jan 24, 2014
More Than You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Notice the trend???
Tuesday Jan 21 | The Cincinnati Enquirer
Fiscal conservatives rule more local school boards
The political landscape among local school boards may be changing. For the first time in the region, candidates who go by a variety of self-applied labels - fiscal conservatives, anti-tax activists, tea party activists - have won what appear to be majorities on local school boards and wield wide control over school policy choices and millions of ...(more)
You left out:

“Unfortunately some of these individuals are not just interested in reducing expenses and maintaining taxes at their current level. There are those that have a goal to destroy public education as it exists – government schools, they call them – and use anti-tax and pro-voucher issues to reduce funding to schools to help reach that goal,” she said.
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30140 Jan 24, 2014
More Than You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Notice the trend???
Tuesday Jan 21 | The Cincinnati Enquirer
Fiscal conservatives rule more local school boards
The political landscape among local school boards may be changing. For the first time in the region, candidates who go by a variety of self-applied labels - fiscal conservatives, anti-tax activists, tea party activists - have won what appear to be majorities on local school boards and wield wide control over school policy choices and millions of ...(more)
The comments are an interesting read also starting with:

"Joan Powell has it right. When you put individuals who are ideologically opposed to public education in CHARGE of public education, well, its a fox in the hen house situation that's not going to turn out well for the "chickens" (our kids). Politics for the sake of politics, not education."

http://news.cincinnati.com/comments/article/2...

Our former BOE President is even mentioned in one of the comments.....
perspective

Springfield, OH

#30141 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I thought the performance index going down year after year shold have been your first clue. You must have graduated from a school system that used Children's First Budgeting....
Back when I went to school, public school teachers generally possessed traditional conservative common sense American values. The trend of public school teachers being jaded and brainwashed by modern union leaders into becoming programmed mind-twisting liberal-socialists had not begun yet.
your red herring lunch

Springfield, OH

#30142 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
How many of those asian countries use charter schools or children's first budgeting? Pretty sure they all have universal health care and teach evolution in the science class.
Oh, and they probably don't go over the "founding fathers intention" too much either.
The US in 2010 spend 21.7% of GDP per capita in 2010 50 countries spend more (asian countries included).
Yet people here still say you can spend less and get a better education. What denial....
Ah, so what's the 1st thing you do?
You can't prove your point, so you mix completely unrelated arguments.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-...
Show Us the Money

Lebanon, OH

#30143 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Shows the need for common core. Too bad we can't set standards for college. Maybe the college's should try Children's First Budgeting (more with less $) Oh wait, that's right they operate in a FREE market where capitalism rules the day.
Did you notice in the article that they require applicants to take developmental courses and:
"Developmental courses cost the same as general college classes but don’t count toward a degree. Students can become discouraged and need more time and money to graduate."
Nice way for a college to collect more money and gouge the new students. Good thing the state doesn't regulate that sort of thing....
The report also states:"More students needed remediation in math, 34 percent, than English, 20 percent. And 14 percent needed to take both."
If you look at the December 2013 report for Springboro the number of students that needed developmental courses compared to the paper is as follows:
Taking Develop. Math or English State Average: 40% Springboro: 10%
Taking Develop. Math State Average: 34% Springboro: 15%
Taking Develop. English State Average: 20% Springboro: 8%
Taking BOTH Develop. Math & English State Average: 14% Springboro: 4%
Compared to the state average we look pretty outstanding.
The way people blame Dr. Malone for everything around here, I wonder how many of them will give him the credit for out performing the state average.
Once again, It's all about perspective...
You may see failure but I see that compared to the state Boro is doing pretty well. Thank you Dr. Malone!(looks like the voter's got it right at the last election!)
Only someone who willfully ignores reality would say that "1 out of 6" high school graduates has to take remedial math in college is performing outstanding. Those are just the ones going to college, not all attend college so the numbers who are not getting the education the taxpayers are funding are higher. Begging for adulation when you deserve scorn is pathetic and reveals more about the look at me attitude that accomplishes little while demanding everything.
School District Voter

Springfield, OH

#30144 Jan 24, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
You left out:
“Unfortunately some of these individuals are not just interested in reducing expenses and maintaining taxes at their current level. There are those that have a goal to destroy public education as it exists – government schools, they call them – and use anti-tax and pro-voucher issues to reduce funding to schools to help reach that goal,” she said.
Fortunately, in our Springboro Community Schools we the people have elected Board of Education representatives (including Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano) who are interested in leading our Schools in the direction of opportunity for Everyone--Our Students, Our Teachers, Our Families and Our Community!

With the New School Year of 2013-2014 starting out with Increased Pay for Every One of Our School Employees AND Reduced Taxes for Every Springboro Family, We are on our way to a brighter Boro future!

The fear of change from Ron Malone's comfortable old status quo ways will NOT chase our community (as a whole) back into the darkness of previously failed practices which have now been proven to our students first detriment, dumbing down our curriculum and the misallocation of district and taxpayer resources.

Common Sense Voters and Citizens for Responsible Spending in local Governments (including our local school government business) must stay on this new course of Children First Budget, and stay informed, stay involved, and get engaged in our board room business by encouraging our newly elected board members, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey to "get on board" bringing our school community of employees AND our community of taxpayers together, putting students first while maintaining fiscal integrity.

Putting children FIRST is reasonable, NOT controversial!
Zero based budgets and efficiency plans are NOT controversial!
Buses that run and roofs that don't leak are NOT controversial!

There is NO place In our board room for those who seek to build mistrust!
Where the integrity was not maintained from within, it is OUR right as concerned citizens, and OUR duty to REBUILD it together. Common Sense Voters will continue to work in the direction of confidence to restore integrity and trust in our Schools; and we will continue to encourage our retired educators/board members Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey, to stay the course and build up our schools and community AND Celebrate Our Success of the progress made in the last two years! We Are On Our Way as Our School District Begins Second Semester of the 2013-2014 School Year!
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30145 Jan 24, 2014
your red herring lunch wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, so what's the 1st thing you do?
You can't prove your point, so you mix completely unrelated arguments.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-...
Just becasue it's not proven to YOU doesn't mean it's not proven. The previous poster cited an article about asian countries scoring higher than the US. Must be crowded on the denial train...

Keep any view you want. Most on this site are delusional and fail to see and respect the will of the voters. It's well known what this forum represents.
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30146 Jan 24, 2014
FOR THE SAKE OF REPETITION!

Performance Index 2012-2013
The Performance Index measures the test results of every student, not just those who score proficient or higher. There are six levels on the index and districts receive points for every student in each of these levels. The higher the achievement level, the more the points awarded in the district's index. This rewards schools and districts for improving performance.

Ach. Level____% of Students_Points for Level_Points Received
Adv. Plus________0.5__________1.3__ ________0.6
Advanced________36.0__________ 1.2__________43.2
Accelerated_____30.8__________ 1.1__________33.9
Proficient______25.5__________ 1.0__________25.5
Basic__________5.3__________0. 6__________3.2
Limited__________1.8__________ 0.3__________0.5
Untested_________0.1__________ 0.0__________0.0
__________TOTAL:_106.9

89.1%(106.9 out of 120.0)

A = 90.0 - 100.0%
B = 80.0 - 89.9%
C = 70.0 - 79.9%
D = 50.0 - 69.9%
F = 0.0 - 49.9%

School Year Performance Index
2010 - 2011_______111.1
2011 - 2012_______110.2
2012 - 2013_______106.9

Notice a trend?

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