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Read My Lips

Springfield, OH

#28942 Nov 7, 2013
write this down wrote:
<quoted text>
5 years? MY ARSE!!
MSA get sworn in January 2014. By Labor Day 2014, the new board will have created enough useless "needs" to blow the current budget completely out of the water. Then they'll try to find the gall to approach district voters to ask for additional millage in the form of a spring 2015 levy.
Let the Union Bring It On!

Practice Makes Perfect and Springboro Taxpayers have Perfected the

the Smart Practice of Voting NO NEW TAXES.
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#28943 Nov 7, 2013
poundsand wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... POT, MEET KETTLE.
Quotes of Mr. Anderson are not proof enough? Show me the quotes where he supports B/V.

LOL, Mr. Kettle
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#28944 Nov 7, 2013
Read My Lips wrote:
<quoted text>
Let the Union Bring It On!
Practice Makes Perfect and Springboro Taxpayers have Perfected the
the Smart Practice of Voting NO NEW TAXES.
"NO NEW TAXES" ... you forgot "READ MY LIPS"
poundsand

Dayton, OH

#28945 Nov 7, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Quotes of Mr. Anderson are not proof enough? Show me the quotes where he supports B/V.
LOL, Mr. Kettle
I could care less what Mr. Anderson thinks.

Go back to work Babbs.
Well Like Duh

Springfield, OH

#28946 Nov 7, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
At least I'm not under the delusion of the outcome of the election. MSA ALL THE WAY!
Are you, like you know, under the "delusion" that, well,
like the old retired school employees,Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey,
are coming back to their good old high school days?

MSA ALL THE WAY?... Isn't that kinda like the ties that
bind and gag forever, keeping our kids left behind
"the way we were" in the beginning when retired/rehired
Malone was hired in the year 2000....?
less money

Springboro, OH

#28947 Nov 7, 2013
WORDS OF SUSTAINABILITY wrote:
Public schools serve the community. The community funds and supports public schools. The partnership between our schools and community can be described in many ways. It is a legislated relationship. It is a traditional bonding. It is symbiotic. It is real.
The Springboro school district stands in an almost unheard of position today. Even after plans to invest millions in technology, curriculum, buildings and buses, and even after providing every employee with raises, we are financially prepared to give something back to the taxpayer – to give back to our community by reducing their tax burden. The renewal levy on the ballot in November will be set at a lower millage rate to reduce taxes generated by that levy by nearly 15 percent.
With every step, we are proving that this district with its record of excellence is sustainable with an even lower tax burden. This is almost unheard of in school or local government today. The idea seems so foreign to some that there is even a call in our community to keep the renewal for the full amount.
There is an assumption that if we are cutting the taxes; we must be cutting back in our schools. This is simply FALSE. The following needs are in the current budget through 2017:
• high school busing restored
• over $2 million in text books and new adoptions
• over 2.1 million for new buses
• over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
• over $1.5 million in technology (100% WiFi, 1,000 computers, 350 teacher laptops)
• over $7.5 million for our staff in raises and benefit changes
These are met in the five-year forecast even with the lower renewal levy. This reduction of almost 15 percent millage is equal to $1,353,800 per year that we are giving back to our community.
How is this possible?
• The May 2013 five-year forecast included a surplus of $7.55 million in 2017.
• After the approval of contracts with the teachers, classified and exempt staff, the five-year forecast still reveals a surplus of $7.2 million in 2017.
• Springboro Community City Schools will receive 6.5% more in 2013-2014 than in the previous year from the State of Ohio (approximately $828,000) as well as 10.5% more in 2014-2015 (approximately $1.2 million).
• Since 2012, 2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.
• A second pipeline is possible; however, the district’s current forecast assumptions DO NOT include the additional funding it may bring to the district.
Not only have we proven that we can live within our means, but now every person in this district—our children and families, our staff and teachers, and the taxpayers–will benefit.
This is significant when placed in the context of five failed levies that sought to raise our taxes by up to $45,000,000. Our community sent a clear message again and again that there could be no new taxes. The board—elected by that same community—remembers that we are all on the same side in the pursuit of true educational attainment. As it became clear through our due diligence into the finances of the district that we could meet our needs with less money, the board voted to request lower millage in the renewal levy in November.
Technically, there isn't a need for less money....everyone (especially the current BOE majority which will no longer be very soon)conveniently forgets the $3.5 million coming from the gas pipeline. Decisions become much easier when you have $3.5 million dropped in your lap.
poundsand

Dayton, OH

#28948 Nov 7, 2013
First God created idiots," wrote Mark Twain. "That was for practice. Then he created school boards."
Straight to the Point

Springfield, OH

#28949 Nov 7, 2013
It's time to forget the MSA campaign; AND the distortion of the campaign flyer that pledges "promoting solidarity" and to "build internal school district unity." The role of the elected BOE
elected official is to consider BOTH the NEEDS of the school district AND the needs of the constituents.

Don't be deceived into thinking that the two retired Educators,
Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey, have the board room power to re-define the role of the BOE elected official to SERVE ONLY the WANTS of the SEA president, Scott Maney.

The Educators Representing Educators newly elected minority are among our FIVE elected officials, and the THREESOME OF MSA CAMPAIGN each have ONE voice in the board room; and that one voice is accountable to the community as a whole; not accountable to only the Wants of the union teachers in our children's classrooms.

It is possible that Sarah Jobe has severely misled Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey in the direction of "union solidarity" in the public business of the Board of Education; but it is also possible that community taxpayers may voice a loud "wake-up" call once our insanely popular retired educator gets into the board room.

The MSA Threesome campaign supporters need to understand that Mr. Anderson is NOT a retired educator (as Mr.Malone and Mr.Stuckey)and he now stands alone as ONE of the Three elected officials who is NOT an Educators FIRST board representative.

Mr. Anderson's service AND loyalty as an elected official NOW belongs to ALL Springboro Families and Taxpaying homeowners in the school district; and there is NO OBLIGATION of LOYALTY Or SPECIAL SERVICE to the TWO Educators First board representatives, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey.

And All Five Elected Board Representatives are accountable to our Springboro School District's committment to ensure that the children of the Springboro Community receive an excellent education, while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending!

Children First Budgeting Works!

It's for our children, our schools and our community!
Taxpaying Citizen

Springfield, OH

#28950 Nov 7, 2013
less money wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically, there isn't a need for less money....everyone (especially the current BOE majority which will no longer be very soon)conveniently forgets the $3.5 million coming from the gas pipeline. Decisions become much easier when you have $3.5 million dropped in your lap.
TECHNICALLY, WE BELIEVE....

That the future belongs to technology. It is absolutely essential that we recognize technology not as a means to an end, but as a conduit through which knowledge flows. Much like the wires that flow to our houses bringing electricity, our technology investments are being made to ensure the future flow of knowledge to our children.

Springboro Families and Taxpaying homeowners Support (as proven by the Renewal levy passing) the progress made in the past two years
including...

Saving taxpayers $6.5 million

Reduced school fees, lower pay to participate fees, as well as restored busing, and building maintenance.

Money and resources to the gifted and early intervention programs.

RAISING THE BAR FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS!

Adding ACT/College Essentials class, emphasizing early college credit programs through the high school, Post Secondary Enrollment Options, Advanced Placement and Dual Credit courses.

Balancing class sizes, and STRENGTHENING our curriculum.

TECHNOLOGY PLAN WITH 1100 NEW COMPUTERS, WIRELESS ACCESS FOR EVERY BUILDING, and LAPTOPS TO EVERY TEACHER.

All Springboro Families and Taxpaying homeowners owe a debt of gratitude and appreciation to our current board's Children's First Budgeting reform minded vision PUTTING STUDENTS FIRST during these past two years... and that is just the beginning of our Boro Future Bright! THANK YOU!
Lerxst

Miamisburg, OH

#28951 Nov 7, 2013
WORDS OF SUSTAINABILITY wrote:
Public schools serve the community. The community funds and supports public schools. The partnership between our schools and community can be described in many ways. It is a legislated relationship. It is a traditional bonding. It is symbiotic. It is real.
The Springboro school district stands in an almost unheard of position today. Even after plans to invest millions in technology, curriculum, buildings and buses, and even after providing every employee with raises, we are financially prepared to give something back to the taxpayer – to give back to our community by reducing their tax burden. The renewal levy on the ballot in November will be set at a lower millage rate to reduce taxes generated by that levy by nearly 15 percent.
With every step, we are proving that this district with its record of excellence is sustainable with an even lower tax burden. This is almost unheard of in school or local government today. The idea seems so foreign to some that there is even a call in our community to keep the renewal for the full amount.
There is an assumption that if we are cutting the taxes; we must be cutting back in our schools. This is simply FALSE. The following needs are in the current budget through 2017:
• high school busing restored
• over $2 million in text books and new adoptions
• over 2.1 million for new buses
• over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
• over $1.5 million in technology (100% WiFi, 1,000 computers, 350 teacher laptops)
• over $7.5 million for our staff in raises and benefit changes
These are met in the five-year forecast even with the lower renewal levy. This reduction of almost 15 percent millage is equal to $1,353,800 per year that we are giving back to our community.
How is this possible?
• The May 2013 five-year forecast included a surplus of $7.55 million in 2017.
• After the approval of contracts with the teachers, classified and exempt staff, the five-year forecast still reveals a surplus of $7.2 million in 2017.
• Springboro Community City Schools will receive 6.5% more in 2013-2014 than in the previous year from the State of Ohio (approximately $828,000) as well as 10.5% more in 2014-2015 (approximately $1.2 million).
• Since 2012, 2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.
• A second pipeline is possible; however, the district’s current forecast assumptions DO NOT include the additional funding it may bring to the district.
Not only have we proven that we can live within our means, but now every person in this district—our children and families, our staff and teachers, and the taxpayers–will benefit.
This is significant when placed in the context of five failed levies that sought to raise our taxes by up to $45,000,000. Our community sent a clear message again and again that there could be no new taxes. The board—elected by that same community—remembers that we are all on the same side in the pursuit of true educational attainment. As it became clear through our due diligence into the finances of the district that we could meet our needs with less money, the board voted to request lower millage in the renewal levy in November.
The above excellent summation of the state of things verifies what we pretty much knew - that this race was a popularity contest. Wondering how it would have gone had M not run. Anyway, hoping MFA continue with the sensible policies the old board brought to us. I kind of like surpluses, higher educational standards, etc.
Wow Wow Wow

Springfield, OH

#28952 Nov 7, 2013
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
Lerxst wrote:
<quoted text>
The above excellent summation of the state of things verifies what we pretty much knew - that this race was a popularity contest. Wondering how it would have gone had M not run. Anyway, hoping MFA continue with the sensible policies the old board brought to us. I kind of like surpluses, higher educational standards, etc.
check up from neck up

Springfield, OH

#28953 Nov 7, 2013
Right Choice wrote:
Seems as though the current board is in need of a "self audit".
In reflection of a number of occurances during the last 48 hours both inside and outside Springboro's brick and mortar, obviously it is members and constituents of the SEA who are in severe need need of "self-audit".
Taxpaying Citizen

Springfield, OH

#28954 Nov 7, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
<quoted text>
It's time for Mr. Malone to wake up to the fact that what is currently going on in the school district is the big multi-million dollar business of educating our Students; and the taxpayers in this community are "stock holders" INVESTING in the education business. Does Wow Wow Wow think that supporters of the MSA campaign are now going to "stop the current 21st century quality classroom education that is now successfully "going on?"

It is agreed that the election of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey was a "vote against" what is currently going on with the progress made in the past two years by our Children's First Budgeting reform minded BOE members Vision for our children's 21st century classroom education.

Mr. Malone told the public in a May 2013 Springboro Life magazine interview that he felt the current board's major focus was on the physical elements of education; and that he felt the re-emphasis should be put on the Educator. Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners support the direction in which our school district is
now "going in" and will stand up for kids in the boardroom to make sure that our new board members "get on board" with what's going on in our Students First classroom education.

Now that Mr. Malone is an elected BOE official, he works for the
community of taxpayers, accountable to the needs of both the school community and the community of taxpayers, and he just might find out that the job is much more demanding than being building principal managing the Principals fund, greeting students with a smile, and keeping Mr. Maney and his staff happy.

While there may be great differences in personality, leadership style, and expertise among the Five men of our new board,
the common thread shared by all must be the priority of RAISING THE BAR FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS, and working together with
students, parents, staff, and community members.

It will be a challenging year; but there is great optimism and confidence that Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey can
be taught to FIT into our school district's reform-minded vision for our children's future. We can just invest in status quo!
Taxpaying Citizen

Springfield, OH

#28955 Nov 7, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
<quoted text>
It's time for Mr. Malone to wake up to the fact that what is currently going on in the school district is the big multi-million dollar business of educating our Students; and the taxpayers in this community are "stock holders" INVESTING in the education business. Does Wow Wow Wow think that supporters of the MSA campaign are now going to "stop the current 21st century quality classroom education that is now successfully "going on?"

It is agreed that the election of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey was a "vote against" what is currently going on with the progress made in the past two years by our Children's First Budgeting reform minded BOE members Vision for our children's 21st century classroom education.

Mr. Malone told the public in a May 2013 Springboro Life magazine interview that he felt the current board's major focus was on the physical elements of education; and that he felt the re-emphasis should be put on the Educator. Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners support the direction in which our school district is
now "going in" and will stand up for kids in the boardroom to make sure that our new board members "get on board" with what's going on in our Students First classroom education.

Now that Mr. Malone is an elected BOE official, he works for the
community of taxpayers, accountable to the needs of both the school community and the community of taxpayers, and he just might find out that the job is much more demanding than being building principal managing the Principals fund, greeting students with a smile, and keeping Mr. Maney and his staff happy.

While there may be great differences in personality, leadership style, and expertise among the Five men of our new board,
the common thread shared by all must be the priority of RAISING THE BAR FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS, and working together with
students, parents, staff, and community members.

It will be a challenging year; but there is great optimism and confidence that Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey can
be taught to FIT into our school district's reform-minded vision for our children's future.

Where the current board's at right now is wanting he highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility. That's what
our school distict's reform minded vision stands for.
We can't just invest in status quo.
Get Real

Springfield, OH

#28956 Nov 7, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
SPIN,SPIN,SPIN. Bill would be proud.
Anderson is with Malone and Stuckey.
Please provide where Mr. Anderson supports Children's First Budgeting. He ran with Malone/Stuckey. Their campain was one in the same. He publicly denounced any ties to the B/V campain.
"This, once again, demonstrates that the Bitner/Vaughn Campaign and
Educate Springboro do not follow campaign laws nor do they have ethics.
Mr. Anderson strongly denounces this and has requested that the signs be taken down as he did NOT authorize this in any shape or form.
Furthermore, Mr. Anderson is NOT endorsing the Bitner/Vaughn ticket." - www.msa4springboro.com
...their campaign was one in the same...?

well the campaign is over now, and are you now denouncing the individual voice of Mr. Anderson, as an elected official,
by assuming that Mr. Anderson is just a "prop" for the retired educators, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey, and that only ONE voice will be heard during school board business decisions?

Mr. Anderson is a business owner who obviously prides himself in successfully problem solving and decision making, based on his own independent life's experiences; while Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey have spent their adult careers in the "collective experiences" of the government schools, producing a narrow vision of business-like independent thinking.
So naturally, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey
just assume that Mr. Anderson will think collectively as one with the two of them; but that's probably not going to happen for very long. Once elected, all politicians develop huge egos as a means of self-defense against destructive personal attacks from their ever present opposition; and no one can possibly please every one all the time, so it is just a matter of time for those egos to start crowding one another and the battle of the minds begin.
We'll see how the new year begins soon; but Mr. Malone doesn't
seem very strong minded in dealing with controversary... he appears very shallow and too easily offended to be an effective
leader. Furthermore, Mr. Anderson is no longer in a campaign against Bitner/Vaughn, nor WITH Malone/Stuckey.
Lerxst

Springfield, OH

#28957 Nov 7, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
<quoted text>
What would you describe as 'going on'?
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28958 Nov 7, 2013
Taxpaying Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
It will be a challenging year; but there is great optimism and confidence that Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone, and Mr. Stuckey can
be taught to FIT into our school district's reform-minded vision for our children's future. We can just invest in status quo!
This is the most humorous statement I've seen thus far. The voters overwhelmingly do not want them to be "taught to FIT" into the current school board's mindset. We went them challenge it, to remove the smokescreen that you call transparency, to TRULY put children first rather than just say it (that Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano give three craps about the kids of Springboro is laughable.) You are correct that those in elected office develop their own individual identities while in office. That's fine with us. What the community of Springboro is sick and tired of is extremism (oh my!), deceit, and disrespect. We are smart enough to know that we won't always agree with the board's decisions, but now with the likes of Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano no longer in the majority, we at least know we can TRUST them and they won't make us a laughing stock of the nation. Eventually you blowhards will see that we don't want the agenda of the current board to continue and IT WON'T. Mr. Wiedeboy will be loud, no doubt, but we are done letting him bully this community. The community has spoken. It's time for YOU to listen for a change.
Reality Bytes

Springfield, OH

#28959 Nov 7, 2013
Get over yourselves wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the most humorous statement I've seen thus far. The voters overwhelmingly do not want them to be "taught to FIT" into the current school board's mindset. We went them challenge it, to remove the smokescreen that you call transparency, to TRULY put children first rather than just say it (that Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano give three craps about the kids of Springboro is laughable.) You are correct that those in elected office develop their own individual identities while in office. That's fine with us. What the community of Springboro is sick and tired of is extremism (oh my!), deceit, and disrespect. We are smart enough to know that we won't always agree with the board's decisions, but now with the likes of Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano no longer in the majority, we at least know we can TRUST them and they won't make us a laughing stock of the nation. Eventually you blowhards will see that we don't want the agenda of the current board to continue and IT WON'T. Mr. Wiedeboy will be loud, no doubt, but we are done letting him bully this community. The community has spoken. It's time for YOU to listen for a change.
....I'm listening; all I hear is your extremism, deceit, and disrespect... seems to me that you have more in commom with
community than differences.

....a laughing stock of the the nation? isn't that just
YOUR extremism?

....three craps about the kids? So what's laughable about
YOUR rudeness and bad manners?

....you blowhards?... are you done bullying this community yet?
Words of Sustainability

Springfield, OH

#28960 Nov 7, 2013
Public schools serve the community. The community funds and supports public schools. The partnership between our schools and community can be described in many ways. It is a legislated relationship. It is a traditional bonding. It is symbiotic. It is real.
The Springboro school district stands in an almost unheard of position today. Even after plans to invest millions in technology, curriculum, buildings and buses, and even after providing every employee with raises, we are financially prepared to give something back to the taxpayer – to give back to our community by reducing their tax burden. The renewal levy on the ballot in November will be set at a lower millage rate to reduce taxes generated by that levy by nearly 15 percent.
With every step, we are proving that this district with its record of excellence is sustainable with an even lower tax burden. This is almost unheard of in school or local government today. The idea seems so foreign to some that there is even a call in our community to keep the renewal for the full amount.
There is an assumption that if we are cutting the taxes; we must be cutting back in our schools. This is simply FALSE. The following needs are in the current budget through 2017:
• high school busing restored
• over $2 million in text books and new adoptions
• over 2.1 million for new buses
• over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
• over $1.5 million in technology (100% WiFi, 1,000 computers, 350 teacher laptops)
• over $7.5 million for our staff in raises and benefit changes
These are met in the five-year forecast even with the lower renewal levy. This reduction of almost 15 percent millage is equal to $1,353,800 per year that we are giving back to our community.
How is this possible?
• The May 2013 five-year forecast included a surplus of $7.55 million in 2017.
• After the approval of contracts with the teachers, classified and exempt staff, the five-year forecast still reveals a surplus of $7.2 million in 2017.
• Springboro Community City Schools will receive 6.5% more in 2013-2014 than in the previous year from the State of Ohio (approximately $828,000) as well as 10.5% more in 2014-2015 (approximately $1.2 million).
• Since 2012, 2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.
• A second pipeline is possible; however, the district’s current forecast assumptions DO NOT include the additional funding it may bring to the district.
Not only have we proven that we can live within our means, but now every person in this district—our children and families, our staff and teachers, and the taxpayers–will benefit.
This is significant when placed in the context of five failed levies that sought to raise our taxes by up to $45,000,000. Our community sent a clear message again and again that there could be no new taxes. The board—elected by that same community—remembers that we are all on the same side in the pursuit of true educational attainment. As it became clear through our due diligence into the finances of the district that we could meet our needs with less money, the board voted to request lower millage in the renewal levy in November.
If you budget $300 for a monthly car payment but you find the car you need with every option for $250, do you tell the dealer you’d still like to pay more? Of course not. We’re not selling a rundown clunker at the reduced price. We are meeting and exceeding state mandates as well as local expectations. We are building a technology backbone, investing in computers, curriculum, buses and buildings – we are putting children first. Most important, we are being honest about what is needed through 2017. This is reform at the local level, and this is working together toward sustainability.
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28961 Nov 7, 2013
Reality Bytes wrote:
<quoted text>
....I'm listening; all I hear is your extremism, deceit, and disrespect... seems to me that you have more in commom with
community than differences.
....a laughing stock of the the nation? isn't that just
YOUR extremism?
....three craps about the kids? So what's laughable about
YOUR rudeness and bad manners?
....you blowhards?... are you done bullying this community yet?
No extremism here and certainly no deceit. I gladly admit to disrespect because that's exactly what those who support Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano have earned.

Yes, a laughing stock. Did you not see any of the very negative national coverage? Wow, pay attention.

My rudeness is not intended to be laughable; it's simply deserved.

No, I'm not done. Eventually, those who are bullied bully right back. Yes, I guess you've made me stoop to your level.

Boy, you blowhards (yes, I said it again and I still mean it) can dish it out, but you sure can't take it!

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