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Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27989 Oct 16, 2013
Students First wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting.....you tell people to stop the "blame game" but right in your post, you blame Malone for all kinds of things. Maybe those in glass houses should not throw stones......
Those joining the Celebration of Our Success are not in glass houses and are not throwing stones, and are not blaming Malone for all kinds of things... Just stating the facts of his work record which now has been proven ...

Union school board candidate,Ron Malone, can run for election
trying to gain control of our Children's First Budget; but
Ron Malone can't hide from the transparency of his own
record of the past 13 years as high school princiPAL, ignoring
the best interest of our students first academic needs (which proven evidence has now been found hidden in his desk drawer).

No Need to Blame...

Just Vote NO to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson staus quo!

People in this community should learn from the past leadership
of princiPAL Ron and ask themselves:

HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD SPEND OUR CHILDREN'S
FIRST SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27990 Oct 16, 2013
Celebrate Our Success wrote:
<quoted text>
Those joining the Celebration of Our Success are not in glass houses and are not throwing stones, and are not blaming Malone for all kinds of things... Just stating the facts of his work record which now has been proven ...
Union school board candidate,Ron Malone, can run for election
trying to gain control of our Children's First Budget; but
Ron Malone can't hide from the transparency of his own
record of the past 13 years as high school princiPAL, ignoring
the best interest of our students first academic needs (which proven evidence has now been found hidden in his desk drawer).
No Need to Blame...
Just Vote NO to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson staus quo!
People in this community should learn from the past leadership
of princiPAL Ron and ask themselves:
HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD SPEND OUR CHILDREN'S
FIRST SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
AGAIN WHAT MEMBERS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????? NOT ONE OF THE M/S/A CANDIDATES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE UNION! If you are going to talk about past union members Stuckey is the only one. It's like saying it's a grade-school controlled board now, since all the BOE members were at one time in grade school.

Which union was Ron Malone a part of? Get over yourself and get your facts straight.

The more important question is what business does Bitner manage and why not state the business on his bio?
Lerxst

Cleveland, OH

#27991 Oct 16, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
Schools, like any business or family, want to maintain a cash reserve for safety for unknown and unexpected expenditures plus to build up a cash balance for future capital needs. I can't speak to the appropriateness of the size of our surplus but I am sure there are recommended guidelines as I know local governments have reserve parameters they try to stay within.
Then it might help to know the appropriateness and size of the surplus before saying we need more money.

By the way, the surplus is about $6M.
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27992 Oct 16, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
Schools, like any business or family, want to maintain a cash reserve for safety for unknown and unexpected expenditures plus to build up a cash balance for future capital needs. I can't speak to the appropriateness of the size of our surplus but I am sure there are recommended guidelines as I know local governments have reserve parameters they try to stay within.
Exactly. I found it interesting that they decided how much money to ask for in the levy without deciding pay-to-play fees. How can you budget without knowing the numbers? Also at the meeting after the levy reduction was approved the board was asked for money to replace a frig unit in one of the schools and approval for money for 1 on 1 teachers for special needs (I believe the number of new staff was 5). Because of state law they HAVE to hire these teachers. Both of these items were not accounted for in the current budget but I'm sure they will make a significant dent.
Question

Dayton, OH

#27993 Oct 16, 2013
Per Doug's blog above regarding the decrease in students taking higher level classes - I have a few questions:

If our gifted intervention is rated a "D"
wouldn't that have an affect on the students drive to take higher level classes? Isn't it the role of the entire school district (starting in the elementary schools) to improve the "D" rating which would then improve the HS students higher learning capacity?

Hasn't the school district failed five levies since 2008, could it be that the additional money from the levy could have enhanced the gifted intervention?

Hasn't the HS under the new direction of the "Reform Minded BOE" removed electives and combined AP classes with lower grade classes - how is this better for the AP students? If you wanted to sign up for an AP class and knew you would only get 50% of the teachers time - would you want to take the class? This is the strategy of the current board not Malone.
Vote for MSA

Dayton, OH

#27994 Oct 16, 2013
Bitner and Vaughn's sign says it all "Parents representing Parents" - nothing about the kids or education. These pawns for KK can repeat the mantra of "Children's First Budgeting" but the truth is they only care about the budget and not the kids.

HOW WOULD A SCHOOL BOARD WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS TO REDUCE COSTS IMPROVE THE EDUCATION IN THE DISTRICT?

Please stay alert voters and vote for the best candidates for our children - Malone, Stuckey & Anderson.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27995 Oct 16, 2013
Question wrote:
Per Doug's blog above regarding the decrease in students taking higher level classes - I have a few questions:
If our gifted intervention is rated a "D"
wouldn't that have an affect on the students drive to take higher level classes? Isn't it the role of the entire school district (starting in the elementary schools) to improve the "D" rating which would then improve the HS students higher learning capacity?
Hasn't the school district failed five levies since 2008, could it be that the additional money from the levy could have enhanced the gifted intervention?
Hasn't the HS under the new direction of the "Reform Minded BOE" removed electives and combined AP classes with lower grade classes - how is this better for the AP students? If you wanted to sign up for an AP class and knew you would only get 50% of the teachers time - would you want to take the class? This is the strategy of the current board not Malone.
The reduction in strength of our high school courses began when Mr. Malone, not the board that first sat in January of 2012, made the conscious decision to lower the rigor of the curriculum.

These are not my words, but the conclusions of the Warren County Education Service Center who had been hired by the district since at least 2007 to audit our program of studies to ensure compliance with the High Schools That Work program.

Until recently, the reports had not seen the light of day and had reside deep within the file cabinets of the principal's office.

The January 2013 report reports:

"Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the HSTW philosophy, SHS
believes that offering low~level courses is in the best interest of students. This belief,
however, was NOT SUBSTANTIATED by research or data."

Professional peers trying to be nice wrote that for Mr. Malone in January 2013.

Page 10 of the January 2013 report

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS...

With 13 years at the helm to fix the problem, Mr. Malone opted instead to take a different tact and use his large store of influence in the community to reduce the strength of the curriculum.
Billy Baroo

Cleveland, OH

#27996 Oct 16, 2013
Vote for MSA wrote:
Bitner and Vaughn's sign says it all "Parents representing Parents" - nothing about the kids or education. These pawns for KK can repeat the mantra of "Children's First Budgeting" but the truth is they only care about the budget and not the kids.
HOW WOULD A SCHOOL BOARD WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS TO REDUCE COSTS IMPROVE THE EDUCATION IN THE DISTRICT?
Please stay alert voters and vote for the best candidates for our children - Malone, Stuckey & Anderson.
You are falling for the standard ploy that more money equals better education. If that were the case we really ought to quadruple our property taxes and REALLY educate our kids. Would you go for that?

The reality is throwing money at a perceived problem is not the solution. If it were cities like DC ($29,000/pupil) would have the best educated children on the planet. Instead, they are among the worst. At the end of the day it's HOW the money is spent. Not HOW MUCH money is spent.
Bias means no story

Ft Mitchell, KY

#27997 Oct 16, 2013
Vote for MSA wrote:
Bitner and Vaughn's sign says it all "Parents representing Parents" - nothing about the kids or education. These pawns for KK can repeat the mantra of "Children's First Budgeting" but the truth is they only care about the budget and not the kids.
HOW WOULD A SCHOOL BOARD WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS TO REDUCE COSTS IMPROVE THE EDUCATION IN THE DISTRICT?
Please stay alert voters and vote for the best candidates for our children - Malone, Stuckey & Anderson.
I guess you missed the area on the sign, website etc. that states "I support Springboro Students". That's pretty typical and expected of you though. I'm also certain that parents who have children currently attending schools in the district (ie Bitner and Vaughn) would be the best people to make any decision regarding children attending these schools. The others have no children attending schools in the district. The refreshing, involved, students first candidates are Bitner and Vaughn!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27998 Oct 16, 2013
Vote for MSA wrote:
Bitner and Vaughn's sign says it all "Parents representing Parents" - nothing about the kids or education. These pawns for KK can repeat the mantra of "Children's First Budgeting" but the truth is they only care about the budget and not the kids.
HOW WOULD A SCHOOL BOARD WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS TO REDUCE COSTS IMPROVE THE EDUCATION IN THE DISTRICT?
Please stay alert voters and vote for the best candidates for our children - Malone, Stuckey & Anderson.
The school board's focus was using our existing resources in the best possible fashion to enhance and accelerate the level of actual academic achievement our children could attain.

They also managed to get us bussing returned for all students from K-12 with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.

They also managed to get us a technology program that works and buy 1,100 new laptops with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.

They also managed to earmark $2.4 million dollars for textbook purchases with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.

They also managed to root out the loss of loose booster funds that accounted for over $1,000,000 in lost monies over the course of a 20 year run.

The also managed to lower school fees and hidden 40% excess charges on items like school pictures.

They also began to press for raising academic standards across the board from K-12.

They also added additional staff to properly handle this new emphasis on academics.

While Mr. Malone was consciously reducing the strength of our high school curriculum to make our high school a more fun place to spend time, the board was pushing for more A/P classes.

Mr. Malone responded in January 2012 by presenting a new A/P Statistics class, a beginning guitar class, and a current events class.

Thankfully the board canned the beginning guitar class.
Students First

Springboro, OH

#27999 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The school board's focus was using our existing resources in the best possible fashion to enhance and accelerate the level of actual academic achievement our children could attain.
They also managed to get us bussing returned for all students from K-12 with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to get us a technology program that works and buy 1,100 new laptops with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to earmark $2.4 million dollars for textbook purchases with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to root out the loss of loose booster funds that accounted for over $1,000,000 in lost monies over the course of a 20 year run.
The also managed to lower school fees and hidden 40% excess charges on items like school pictures.
They also began to press for raising academic standards across the board from K-12.
They also added additional staff to properly handle this new emphasis on academics.
While Mr. Malone was consciously reducing the strength of our high school curriculum to make our high school a more fun place to spend time, the board was pushing for more A/P classes.
Mr. Malone responded in January 2012 by presenting a new A/P Statistics class, a beginning guitar class, and a current events class.
Thankfully the board canned the beginning guitar class.
They also were the beneficiaries of $3.5 million in pipeline revenue.....Its easy to do quite a bit with $3.5 million dropped in your lap.

And so you are saying the A/P Statistics class and current events class were good additions?
Greedy Sinners

Dayton, OH

#28000 Oct 16, 2013
Bias means no story wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you missed the area on the sign, website etc. that states "I support Springboro Students". That's pretty typical and expected of you though. I'm also certain that parents who have children currently attending schools in the district (ie Bitner and Vaughn) would be the best people to make any decision regarding children attending these schools. The others have no children attending schools in the district. The refreshing, involved, students first candidates are Bitner and Vaughn!
So you would be for removing Rigano and Petroni (who have children, but they don't attend our schools).

Repeal R/P!
Greedy Sinners

Dayton, OH

#28001 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The school board's focus was using our existing resources in the best possible fashion to enhance and accelerate the level of actual academic achievement our children could attain.
They also managed to get us bussing returned for all students from K-12 with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to get us a technology program that works and buy 1,100 new laptops with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to earmark $2.4 million dollars for textbook purchases with NO ADDITIONAL taxes.
They also managed to root out the loss of loose booster funds that accounted for over $1,000,000 in lost monies over the course of a 20 year run.
The also managed to lower school fees and hidden 40% excess charges on items like school pictures.
They also began to press for raising academic standards across the board from K-12.
They also added additional staff to properly handle this new emphasis on academics.
While Mr. Malone was consciously reducing the strength of our high school curriculum to make our high school a more fun place to spend time, the board was pushing for more A/P classes.
Mr. Malone responded in January 2012 by presenting a new A/P Statistics class, a beginning guitar class, and a current events class.
Thankfully the board canned the beginning guitar class.
They also keep us in the National Spotlight.

The number of AP classes has been LOWERED by the board.

The loss of the booster funds was NOT rooted by the board. You'd look elsewhere for that. It was brought to the board's attention.

As for the technology it's called common core and that's where the money for the new infrastructure came from. Something the majority BOE is against (common core that is). But to get rid of common core now would mean paying back the money.
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#28002 Oct 16, 2013
The more important question is what business does Bitner manage and why not state the business on his bio?
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#28003 Oct 16, 2013
Vote for MSA wrote:
Bitner and Vaughn's sign says it all "Parents representing Parents" - nothing about the kids or education. These pawns for KK can repeat the mantra of "Children's First Budgeting" but the truth is they only care about the budget and not the kids.
HOW WOULD A SCHOOL BOARD WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS TO REDUCE COSTS IMPROVE THE EDUCATION IN THE DISTRICT?
Please stay alert voters and vote for the best candidates for our children - Malone, Stuckey & Anderson.
How would a union controlled Malone/Stuckey/Anderson
Board of Education mis-use our hard earned school tax
dollars?

Remember in November that this attempt of school board candidate Ron Malone (who is nothing but a pawn for SEA president, Scott Maney) to gain control of the board is noting more except a
replay of the March 2012 re-instate Malone protest.

Mr. Malone refused to work in the best interest of ALL Springboro students by protesting against a great job promotion to district office; but instead, Mr. Malone allowed himself to be used as a pawn of the union president; when Scott Maney notified the DDN that he and his union members were not happy with Mr. Malone being promoted. Inquiring minds would ask if Mr. Malone is all that you say he is, and that "doing it for the kids" is all Malone wants; then WHY did Mr. Malone refuse to accept the offer of a challenging new opportunity to use his 41 years of past educational service to the benefit of leading our school district into our children's 21st Century Quality Classroom Education?

If Mr. Malone is so great, then why would SEA president, Scott
Maney, NOT be happy to see this great man's work recognized and
better utilized in a job where his influence and expertise could benefit all Springboro students?

Could it be that Mr. Maney did not want to lose his Principal Ron pawn, who simply did for the kids ONLY what was of benift to the union's financial gain first?

If Mr. Malone put Mr. Maney's best interes first in March 2012 by refusing to make Maney and his union members unhappy; and since Mr. Malone just said NO to Our Students First best interest by refusing to accept a new challenge...

Hasn't the time now come on November 5 to Just Say NO to
status quo union school board candidates Malone/Stuckey/Anderson?

Why would our community of voters want to re-instate
Ron Malone status quo... when we are on our way to greater academic achievement and fiscal responsibility in our school district and moving ahead in the direction of sustainability?
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#28004 Oct 16, 2013
Isn't it ironic (and quite funny) that the status quo Malone/Stuckey/Anderson supporters for union first best interests, with our school tax dollars, are on this blog today... raving and ranting and bullying and ridiculing the Students First school board candidates.... throwing a hissy fit because David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn respectfully declined the invitation of SEA officer Sarah Thornbery?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28005 Oct 16, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
The more important question is what business does Bitner manage and why not state the business on his bio?
What does Stuck manage?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28006 Oct 16, 2013
Students First wrote:
<quoted text>
They also were the beneficiaries of $3.5 million in pipeline revenue.....Its easy to do quite a bit with $3.5 million dropped in your lap.
And so you are saying the A/P Statistics class and current events class were good additions?
One was a step in the right direction, the other was yet another fun class.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28007 Oct 16, 2013
Greedy Sinners wrote:
<quoted text>
They also keep us in the National Spotlight.
The number of AP classes has been LOWERED by the board.
The loss of the booster funds was NOT rooted by the board. You'd look elsewhere for that. It was brought to the board's attention.
As for the technology it's called common core and that's where the money for the new infrastructure came from. Something the majority BOE is against (common core that is). But to get rid of common core now would mean paying back the money.
They did drop an A/P Art class that had 11 people signed up. Instead of keeping a class for which their was scant interest, those resources were redeployed where they might better impact more children.

OH YES, most definitely they were because we all remember the hemming and hawing the boosters did before Mr. Harves finally coughed it up when he realized the THIS Budget and Finance Committee was not going away.

For 13 years Mr. Malone failed to protect the families of his high school who were serving his support organizations. Not once did he utilize his esteem and influence to challenge anyone anywhere about the goings on in the booster clubs. When the Budget and Finance Committee began investigating the financial dealings of the organization, Mr. Malone was silent. Mr. Malone was not encouraging cooperation or tansparency, quite the opposite.

No technology is the hardware involved in transferring digital information to our children.

The board opposes further dumbing down of the curriculum through the use of new and exciting euphemisms. This board and hopefully those in the future, wish to push our academic program to higher levels, not lower.

Lowering the bar would be Mr. Malone's tack.

This board and future boards will be aiming higher.
partisan

Dayton, OH

#28008 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
What does Stuck manage?
his ineptness.

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