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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Students First

Springboro, OH

#27971 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are bad at math now aren't you.
20% now in early college credit programs
43% DECREASE from 2008
35% in 2008
How do I know this?
35% x 43%= 15%
35%-15%= 20%
Participation in early college credit programs wasn't great then and had fallen further, by 43%, since 2008. The Warren County Education Service Center has been red flagging this precipitous fall since the 2007, encouraging Springboro High School to step up the program like everyone else was doing.
For whatever reason Mr. Malone felt bound and determined to drive this ship the other direction.
Page 10 January 2013 report
https://docs.google.com/a/springboro.org/file...
Across the board we see an consistent year in and year out erosion of the strength of our curriculum.
Once again, not my words, but the conclusions of Mr. Malone's professional peers at the Warren County Education Service Center whose audit represented the High Schools That Work program.
Who influenced those decisions and provided the necessary leadership to take our curriculum to a weaker state?
Mr. Malone
As to the point that was made - which of course, you totally ignore...this decrease that you reiterate over and over again happened on the current BOE's watch....yet they hold no responsibility whatsoever? So, take credit for things, but no blame? Yep, sounds like the current BOE majority.
Students First

Springboro, OH

#27972 Oct 16, 2013
Taking it to the people wrote:
I just saw this on the Bitner and Vaughn website:
Press Release:
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are excited to announce a meet and greet with the entire community of Springboro from 6:30 until 8:30 on Monday, October 21, 2013
http://supportborostudents.com/index.php/pres...
Hmmm....the forum is being held at Paul Music's place? Reason enough not to vote for them if he is supporting them.
Last nights forum

Dayton, OH

#27973 Oct 16, 2013
Does anybody know why there is not a follow up story from yesterday's article in the Dayton Daily News about the Springboro School Board candidate forum?
Bias means no story

Ft Mitchell, KY

#27974 Oct 16, 2013
Last nights forum wrote:
Does anybody know why there is not a follow up story from yesterday's article in the Dayton Daily News about the Springboro School Board candidate forum?
How could Larry Budd write a story that incites controversy in a community he hates when the only candidates that respond are the candidates he supports? Don't you know they can do no wrong in Larry Budd's eyes? I'm just surprised he didn't write a story about how the ocean parted to let those three walk through the door.
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27975 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are bad at math now aren't you.
20% now in early college credit programs
43% DECREASE from 2008
35% in 2008
How do I know this?
35% x 43%= 15%
35%-15%= 20%
Participation in early college credit programs wasn't great then and had fallen further, by 43%, since 2008. The Warren County Education Service Center has been red flagging this precipitous fall since the 2007, encouraging Springboro High School to step up the program like everyone else was doing.
For whatever reason Mr. Malone felt bound and determined to drive this ship the other direction.
Page 10 January 2013 report
https://docs.google.com/a/springboro.org/file...
Across the board we see an consistent year in and year out erosion of the strength of our curriculum.
Once again, not my words, but the conclusions of Mr. Malone's professional peers at the Warren County Education Service Center whose audit represented the High Schools That Work program.
Who influenced those decisions and provided the necessary leadership to take our curriculum to a weaker state?
Mr. Malone
You're beating a dead horse. You need to be comparative to the other schools in the state. Keep riding that dead horse and see how far you get.

What about the number of AP classes dropping (mostly because teachers qualified to teach them have left). Isn't the BOE hiring cheaper, less experienced teachers affecting the number of AP classes we offer? The micro-management style of the current BOE does give them culpability in the situation.

You know what you need for extra AP classes and qualified teachers...money. Asking for the full amount of the renewal might have helped in that plight.
BETRUE

Cleveland, OH

#27976 Oct 16, 2013
Bias means no story wrote:
<quoted text>
How could Larry Budd write a story that incites controversy in a community he hates when the only candidates that respond are the candidates he supports? Don't you know they can do no wrong in Larry Budd's eyes? I'm just surprised he didn't write a story about how the ocean parted to let those three walk through the door.
Larry Budd is a piece of work. He not only slants a story to his liking, he downgrades individuals that DO THE RIGHT THING. No wonder the DDN is the MOST hated newspaper. Time to get REAL reporters and get rid of the negative people.
Celebrate Our success

Akron, OH

#27977 Oct 16, 2013
Students First wrote:
<quoted text>
As to the point that was made - which of course, you totally ignore...this decrease that you reiterate over and over again happened on the current BOE's watch....yet they hold no responsibility whatsoever? So, take credit for things, but no blame? Yep, sounds like the current BOE majority.
Why not stop the blame game and move ahead in the direction of
celebration and appreciation of the absolutely amazing accomplishments that our Children's First BOE majority has been able to accomplish in just less than two years!

Truth be told, our BOE Children First majority's reform minded philosophy has done More,More,More for our Children's First best interest (in less than two years) than school board candidate, Ron Malone, who has been a high school princiPAL, has done in the PAST 13 years, putting Union-First WANTS of More,More,More self-interest financial gain ahead of our Students First academic NEEDS.

Just say NO to Malone status quo!

Vote YES for Reduced Renewal Levy...in the direction of financial sustainability, ensuring a quality 21st century classroom education for all students!

Vote YES! YES! for the only TWO Responsible Budgeting school board candidates who should be elected as our next TWO board representatives!

Only David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are a good fit with our current board's fiscal responsibility agenda. Our school superintendent has stated in the Dayton Daily News:
"Where the board's at right now is wanting the highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility;that's what I stand for."

David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the ONLY two school board candidates who have the WILL and the SKILL to stand with our current board and school district leaders for Students First/Responsible Budgeting!
Vote November 5, 2013 for
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn
Parents Representing Parents

...Moving ahead in support of the fresh ideas (of our current board's reform minded philosophy) that have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required!... And That's Absolutely Awesome and Amazing!
greener pastures

Cleveland, OH

#27978 Oct 16, 2013
Bias means no story wrote:
<quoted text>
How could Larry Budd write a story that incites controversy in a community he hates when the only candidates that respond are the candidates he supports? Don't you know they can do no wrong in Larry Budd's eyes? I'm just surprised he didn't write a story about how the ocean parted to let those three walk through the door.
Your inherent mistake is that after years and years of slant and distortion you still choose to pay attention to Larry Budd. Do like I did. Cancel your DDN subscription, then call the editor of the DDN and explain exactly WHY you cancelled.

A greener, somewhat less politically bias pasture is within reasonable reach. Once or twice a week when we're in Franklin for something we'll pick up an Enquirer. Or you could subscribe to Cincinnati Enquirer online.
Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27979 Oct 16, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
You're beating a dead horse. You need to be comparative to the other schools in the state. Keep riding that dead horse and see how far you get.
What about the number of AP classes dropping (mostly because teachers qualified to teach them have left). Isn't the BOE hiring cheaper, less experienced teachers affecting the number of AP classes we offer? The micro-management style of the current BOE does give them culpability in the situation.
You know what you need for extra AP classes and qualified teachers...money. Asking for the full amount of the renewal might have helped in that plight.
Time to stop the blame game and war of words. You're beating a dead horse, in greedy remorse, bitter and resentful because the SEA didn't get it all! Why not wave the white flag and join the celebration of increased pay for every school employee and reduced renewal levy taxes for every Springboro family?
Children first budgeting works!
Fiscal Responsibility and Wanting the highest academic achievement
is what our current school superintendent stands for; AND he has only been on the job for a year, moving in the direction of restoring trust and confidence in our district leaders, that was broken with our community as a whole by previous status-quo superintendents.
People in this community have just over two weeks now to get
out in the highways and byways of our school district and remind voters that a union controlled school board means "re-instating
Ron Malone's failed practices of the PAST "BAKER'S" dozen of status quo years!
Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27980 Oct 16, 2013
... in the direction of sustainability!

To learn more exciting things happening in our schools and community, visit the website:
http:/educatespringboro.org/
Bias

Dayton, OH

#27981 Oct 16, 2013
greener pastures wrote:
<quoted text>
Your inherent mistake is that after years and years of slant and distortion you still choose to pay attention to Larry Budd. Do like I did. Cancel your DDN subscription, then call the editor of the DDN and explain exactly WHY you cancelled.
A greener, somewhat less politically bias pasture is within reasonable reach. Once or twice a week when we're in Franklin for something we'll pick up an Enquirer. Or you could subscribe to Cincinnati Enquirer online.
But political bias is exactly what the current majority BOE is all about!
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27982 Oct 16, 2013
Celebrate Our Success wrote:
<quoted text>
Time to stop the blame game and war of words. You're beating a dead horse, in greedy remorse, bitter and resentful because the SEA didn't get it all! Why not wave the white flag and join the celebration of increased pay for every school employee and reduced renewal levy taxes for every Springboro family?
Children first budgeting works!
Fiscal Responsibility and Wanting the highest academic achievement
is what our current school superintendent stands for; AND he has only been on the job for a year, moving in the direction of restoring trust and confidence in our district leaders, that was broken with our community as a whole by previous status-quo superintendents.
People in this community have just over two weeks now to get
out in the highways and byways of our school district and remind voters that a union controlled school board means "re-instating
Ron Malone's failed practices of the PAST "BAKER'S" dozen of status quo years!
So in the spirit of stopping the "blame game" you end with "Ron Malone's failed practices of the PAST "BAKER'S" dozen of status quo years!"

Now THAT's a hypocrite!
The Next Day

Cincinnati, OH

#27983 Oct 16, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
You're beating a dead horse. You need to be comparative to the other schools in the state. Keep riding that dead horse and see how far you get.
What about the number of AP classes dropping (mostly because teachers qualified to teach them have left). Isn't the BOE hiring cheaper, less experienced teachers affecting the number of AP classes we offer? The micro-management style of the current BOE does give them culpability in the situation.
You know what you need for extra AP classes and qualified teachers...money. Asking for the full amount of the renewal might have helped in that plight.
Spot on. Well said. Reducing the levy amount was not good fiscal management if you objective is to optimize the educational opportunity of our students.

Remember, it's actually more than a 15% reduction as inflation (even though it has been relatively low in recent years) reduces the buying power of each dollar. A dollar of levy money collected today is only worth about 90 cents of the buying power of a dollar in 2010. If you assume an annual inflation rate of 2% going forward, by 2016, each dollar collected in 2016 will only be worth about 85% of the buying power of a dollar in 2010. A dollar in 2016 will only be worth about 94 cents in buying power compared to today.

I truly hope that a second pipeline gets built and generates tax revenue very quickly to help with needed investment in education, keeping good teachers who can teach AP classes and other specialties, and handle the large class sizes that are already in the pipeline.
Lerxst

Cleveland, OH

#27984 Oct 16, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
You're beating a dead horse. You need to be comparative to the other schools in the state. Keep riding that dead horse and see how far you get.
What about the number of AP classes dropping (mostly because teachers qualified to teach them have left). Isn't the BOE hiring cheaper, less experienced teachers affecting the number of AP classes we offer? The micro-management style of the current BOE does give them culpability in the situation.
You know what you need for extra AP classes and qualified teachers...money. Asking for the full amount of the renewal might have helped in that plight.
Why would you need more money when you already have a surplus?
Students First

Springboro, OH

#27985 Oct 16, 2013
Celebrate Our success wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not stop the blame game and move ahead in the direction of
celebration and appreciation of the absolutely amazing accomplishments that our Children's First BOE majority has been able to accomplish in just less than two years!
Truth be told, our BOE Children First majority's reform minded philosophy has done More,More,More for our Children's First best interest (in less than two years) than school board candidate, Ron Malone, who has been a high school princiPAL, has done in the PAST 13 years, putting Union-First WANTS of More,More,More self-interest financial gain ahead of our Students First academic NEEDS.
Just say NO to Malone status quo!
Vote YES for Reduced Renewal Levy...in the direction of financial sustainability, ensuring a quality 21st century classroom education for all students!
Vote YES! YES! for the only TWO Responsible Budgeting school board candidates who should be elected as our next TWO board representatives!
Only David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are a good fit with our current board's fiscal responsibility agenda. Our school superintendent has stated in the Dayton Daily News:
"Where the board's at right now is wanting the highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility;that's what I stand for."
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the ONLY two school board candidates who have the WILL and the SKILL to stand with our current board and school district leaders for Students First/Responsible Budgeting!
Vote November 5, 2013 for
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn
Parents Representing Parents
...Moving ahead in support of the fresh ideas (of our current board's reform minded philosophy) that have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required!... And That's Absolutely Awesome and Amazing!
Interesting.....you tell people to stop the "blame game" but right in your post, you blame Malone for all kinds of things. Maybe those in glass houses should not throw stones......

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27986 Oct 16, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Last night at the SEA question and answer session there were but 73 people in attendance.
That actual demonstration of interest in the union's slate of candidates belies the Dayton Daily News bold headline article of the importance of the forum.
actually this truth has nothing to do with politics or journalism per prior acts with UNION bullys at BOE meetings john Q does get the "truths" they get spin only in a forum like this does the truths show up just look at judgements on my prior post - slander i stated fact and victom of bully
The Next Day

Cincinnati, OH

#27987 Oct 16, 2013
Lerxst wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you need more money when you already have a surplus?
Schools, like any business or family, want to maintain a cash reserve for safety for unknown and unexpected expenditures plus to build up a cash balance for future capital needs. I can't speak to the appropriateness of the size of our surplus but I am sure there are recommended guidelines as I know local governments have reserve parameters they try to stay within.
Got Donuts

Akron, OH

#27988 Oct 16, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
So in the spirit of stopping the "blame game" you end with "Ron Malone's failed practices of the PAST "BAKER'S" dozen of status quo years!"
Now THAT's a hypocrite!
Lighten up and join the Celebration of our Success!

You do know that school board candidate,Ron Malone,
has been his kids insanely popular high school
"PrinciPAL" for the PAST 13 years, don't you?

Did you NOT know... that a Baker's Dozen means
a quantity of THIRTEEN to those of us who are fond of purchasing and sharing Donuts?

Simply put - the statement "That Malone's failed practices of the PAST "BAKER'S" dozen of status quo years ...

simply means "Malone's failed practices of the PAST
13 years" ...

putting the re-emphasis on the financial gain of the union
teachers, focusing on QUANTITY of courses to provide increased pay for teachers in the classroom; while neglecting the QUALITY educational courses needed for individual academic success for ALL students.
Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27989 Oct 16, 2013
Students First wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting.....you tell people to stop the "blame game" but right in your post, you blame Malone for all kinds of things. Maybe those in glass houses should not throw stones......
Those joining the Celebration of Our Success are not in glass houses and are not throwing stones, and are not blaming Malone for all kinds of things... Just stating the facts of his work record which now has been proven ...

Union school board candidate,Ron Malone, can run for election
trying to gain control of our Children's First Budget; but
Ron Malone can't hide from the transparency of his own
record of the past 13 years as high school princiPAL, ignoring
the best interest of our students first academic needs (which proven evidence has now been found hidden in his desk drawer).

No Need to Blame...

Just Vote NO to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson staus quo!

People in this community should learn from the past leadership
of princiPAL Ron and ask themselves:

HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD SPEND OUR CHILDREN'S
FIRST SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27990 Oct 16, 2013
Celebrate Our Success wrote:
<quoted text>
Those joining the Celebration of Our Success are not in glass houses and are not throwing stones, and are not blaming Malone for all kinds of things... Just stating the facts of his work record which now has been proven ...
Union school board candidate,Ron Malone, can run for election
trying to gain control of our Children's First Budget; but
Ron Malone can't hide from the transparency of his own
record of the past 13 years as high school princiPAL, ignoring
the best interest of our students first academic needs (which proven evidence has now been found hidden in his desk drawer).
No Need to Blame...
Just Vote NO to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson staus quo!
People in this community should learn from the past leadership
of princiPAL Ron and ask themselves:
HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD SPEND OUR CHILDREN'S
FIRST SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
AGAIN WHAT MEMBERS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????? NOT ONE OF THE M/S/A CANDIDATES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE UNION! If you are going to talk about past union members Stuckey is the only one. It's like saying it's a grade-school controlled board now, since all the BOE members were at one time in grade school.

Which union was Ron Malone a part of? Get over yourself and get your facts straight.

The more important question is what business does Bitner manage and why not state the business on his bio?

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