Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Thank you for the articles. A close look at the school link that you provided reveals two simple words below...."Since 2012-2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.(A second pipeline is possible; however, the districtís current forecast assumptions do not include the additional funding it may bring to the district.)"
"It May" tells me no future money is guaranteed. Besides any tax on anything that the state levies and provides to the local schools isn't something I would count on in the future. And at least rightly so for now - the schools do not include that in their future forecasting.
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.

Let's stay on this new course and move in the direction of FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES leadership for our children, schools, and community.

VOTE FOR THE ONLY TWO "FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES" SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013.
DAVID BITNER And KOLTON VAUGHN SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
OUR STUDENTS FIRST FUTURE EDUCATION DEPENDS ON IT!
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So, if the first pipeline money is recurring (not one time money) and revenues from the second hasn't even been collected or factored in to the budget, then why your comment that "...but that infusion of one time monies is getting us through the next few years. Wonder what will happen when the pipeline money runs dry?" It's not one time money. Not trying to be a jerk here...just trying to understand your point.
I don't believe it is recurring money. The schools' information says "has" received, not "and will continue to receive". And if it is recurring - what taxes the state giveth, the state unfortunately can taketh away.
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Since Mr. Malone, in his position at the top of the heirarchy of our school district, was the defacto leader of all of his farm systems that fed students into his high school, one would have thought he may have had a passing interest in the education of the children feeding into his school.
Why did Mr. Malone, with his 41 years of excellent educational experience, never seem to exert his influence and leadership for the benefit of all the children of Springboro?
As the defacto leader of the school district, was it not his responsibility to lead in a way that would produce positive results for all students?
The High Schools That Works program audits our high school every three years. There are repeated mentions of increasing the rigor of curriculum, increasing the participation rates of our A/P classes, putting more emphasis on getting children college ready. They show up with each audit as though no one was paying attention to the recommendations.
"Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary tothe HSTW philosophy, SHS
believes that offering low~level courses is in the best interest of students.≠ This belief,
however, was not substantiated by research or data."
Professional peers trying to be nice wrote that for Mr. Malone in January 2013.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS...
With 13 years at the helm to fix the problem, Mr. Malone opted instead to take a different tact and use his large store of influence in the community to reduce the strength of the curriculum.
Seriously, Vote Bitner, Vaughn, and Anderson
But you just stated that Malone was the "defacto leader" of this district. Therefore he is responsible for all that has occured in the district. That would be even more reason to put him on the board since during this "defacto leadership" all these wonderful things everyone thought the BOE was doing was actually controlled by his hand.

Malone for BOE!
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I don't believe it is recurring money. The schools' information says "has" received, not "and will continue to receive". And if it is recurring - what taxes the state giveth, the state unfortunately can taketh away.
Unfortunately, the anxiety of unknown factors in our future economics and fianances is the REAL WORLD that all of us who work in the private sector live with; by making sure that we place our needs above our wants and budget ourselves carefully to plan ahead surplus enough to maintain priorities in the event of a crisis beyond our control. It does appear that some of our union school employees feel that they are above living with uncertainties that the rest of us deal with; but that the union should have unlimited access to our hard earned dollars; so that all they have to do is just say "we need a levy, or else we will walk out of your child's classroom, and disrupt your life and your child's education."
Unfortunately, there are no certainties, including financial, for any of us in all our tomorrows; that's why we have the present
to instill a sense of fiscal responsibility (fixing budgets/levy alternatives) in our local government leaders, including our government schools.

Time to get real serious by getting out the serious message of voting on November 5, 2013, ONLY, for reform minded candidates
who can look beyond "the way it was in 2000, the 90's, the 80's or whatever good old days that our union school board candidates want to bring back and "hold back" our children first.
Vote November 5, 2013, for the the only two school board candidates who should be our next elected board representatives.
Vote for David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn.
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Thank you for the articles. A close look at the school link that you provided reveals two simple words below...."Since 2012-2013, the district has received $3.5 million per year as a result of a pipeline that has been completed.(A second pipeline is possible; however, the districtís current forecast assumptions do not include the additional funding it may bring to the district.)"
"It May" tells me no future money is guaranteed. Besides any tax on anything that the state levies and provides to the local schools isn't something I would count on in the future. And at least rightly so for now - the schools do not include that in their future forecasting.
Read my lips... "Five failed levies" tells the SEA there is NO future money guaranteed by NEW levies.

Isn't that what our school districts new philosophy of Fixing Budgets/Levy Alternatives is all about?

Isn't the school district's five year budget forecast reviewed and updated by the school district leaders and board members twice a year... so that a quality classroom education, including quality classroom teachers, can be ensured, while living within the framework of our children's first budget agenda?

It appears that some on this topix discussion are trying to create
a crisis of greed with such whining "what ifs" our union school employees don't have more, more, more ....
Voters in this community should ask themselves on November 5, 2013, if Ron Malone's past educational experience is a good FIT with our current board's reform minded philosophy. Why would our community want to return to the failed practices of Ron Malone, who opposes the successful direction in which our district is being led and proposes to "change that direction" to business as usual; putting the re-emphasis on the dollar value of the educator; promoting never ending financial emergencies within the district with an enless stream of new levies to increase salaries and compensation/benefits packages for the union school employees?
Why would our community want to do that?
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But you just stated that Malone was the "defacto leader" of this district. Therefore he is responsible for all that has occured in the district. That would be even more reason to put him on the board since during this "defacto leadership" all these wonderful things everyone thought the BOE was doing was actually controlled by his hand.
Malone for BOE!
Wiedeman used "de facto" as an adjective (any word used to modify a noun). When used as an adjective, the Latin word "de facto" is defined as... "exercising power or serving a function without being legally or officially established". Wiedeman used the correct definition of the word. You failed in that you didn't interpret ANY correct definition of "de facto".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/de+facto
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The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let's stay on this new course and move in the direction of FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES leadership for our children, schools, and community.
VOTE FOR THE ONLY TWO "FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES" SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013.
DAVID BITNER And KOLTON VAUGHN SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
OUR STUDENTS FIRST FUTURE EDUCATION DEPENDS ON IT!
And don't forget Mr. Anderson, a more deserving soul could not exist in Springboro.
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No debate means No choice wrote:
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But you just stated that Malone was the "defacto leader" of this district. Therefore he is responsible for all that has occured in the district. That would be even more reason to put him on the board since during this "defacto leadership" all these wonderful things everyone thought the BOE was doing was actually controlled by his hand.
Malone for BOE!
Au contraire, mon ami.

Those great things, that you are finally now acknowledging, occurred IN SPITE pf Mr. Malone's lack of cooperation or leadership in the right direction.

Mr. Malone chose to spend his most precious resource, his professional reputation, seeking accolades from his students and those employed below him.
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Wouldn't it increase the risk of either Bitner or Vaughn getting pushed down to fourth place IF
supporters of Students First/Responsible Budgeting non-union candidates David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn vote for union school board candidate Charles Anderson?

A vote that increases the strength of Malone's threesome is a terrible thing to waste. Why throw it away just because it's free?

Why vote for Charles Anderson if Mr. Anderson doesn't support our Children First? And why would Mr. Anderson be a threesome with Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey, running for school board election to gain control of our children's first budgeting majority, unless Mr. Anderson opposed our Children First in favor of union first financial interest, just as Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey believe?
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Vaugn and Bitner only the rest of the candidates suck
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I can't vote for any one of the MSA three. They all think the board should have asked for the full renewal and think it was a mistake not to try. BITNER/VAUGHN ONLY! It would definitely hurt Bitner/Vaughn to vote for Anderson too.
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Vote Responsibly wrote:
Wouldn't it increase the risk of either Bitner or Vaughn getting pushed down to fourth place IF
supporters of Students First/Responsible Budgeting non-union candidates David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn vote for union school board candidate Charles Anderson?
A vote that increases the strength of Malone's threesome is a terrible thing to waste. Why throw it away just because it's free?
Why vote for Charles Anderson if Mr. Anderson doesn't support our Children First? And why would Mr. Anderson be a threesome with Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey, running for school board election to gain control of our children's first budgeting majority, unless Mr. Anderson opposed our Children First in favor of union first financial interest, just as Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey believe?
Because my dear, three will be elected whether they meet with your approval or not.

Mr. Anderson has demonstrated the ability to deal with financial and business matters in the course of growing his business in the private sector. That background will prove helpful in evaluating choices of action in the coming years.

Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey on the other hand have been wrapped in the public employee cocoon their entire careers, shielded for the most part from the buffeting winds of economic life in the private sector.

Protest, stomp your feet, bang your head against the floor, even hold your breath until you pass out as much as you like, it will not change the fact that three will be elected.
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Excellent. Well played. If you're going to take credit for something that went well "under your watch", you should also have to take the hit for things that didn't go well. Can't have it both ways.
Also, I think the grade of "D" was for gifted students at the grade school level if I recall correctly, not at the high school where Mr. Malone was.
The current Board has been moving since the election of Mr. Petroni and Mr Rigano to get a firm grip on where the money is flowing in our school district. That sort of analysis takes time, particularly when certain individuals were less than forthcoming with the information, financial and otherwise.

As a true picture emerged from that information, plans began to formulate how to best allocate our given resource structure to put reinforcements into areas of great need.

The amount of time required to accomplish this comes at a significant cost to our children. Each day that passes in our classrooms without the necessary reform is another day those children cannot recover. The children waiting for reform to take place must wait as the great ship slowly turns in the right direction.

A child in the third grade will never get that year back, it is gone forever.

Mr. Malone had enough time to exert his influence and leadership in the district for a child to enter into first grade when Mr. Malone began his tenure in Springboro and graduate as Mr. Malone retired.

13 years was more than enough time to move the ball forward educationally in Springboro for the benefit of all of our children.

Instead Mr. Malone chose to retreat from seeking the high ground and pursue an easier course of studies for our children.

Not my words, but the words of Mr. Malone's professional peers at the Warren County Educational Service Center that had been hired to evaluate our course of study at the high school as part of our membership in the High Schools That Work program.

In 2010 they wrote :

What the School Plans to Do. To continue to increase academic rigor, SHS is investigating the possibility of offering dual credit courses. SHS will also begin implementing the revised Ohio Academic Content standards and assessments. The district will create teacher teams to analyze the revised standards and identify areas of change.

Three years later, under new leadership, the high school took the bull by the horns and is now successfully implementing the dual credit programs that other districts have been enjoying for years.

All it took was the leadership and the will to get the job done.

Mr. Malone could have done this, should have done this, but did not for 13 years.

Where was the leadership?
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Mr. Jack Hanson, the social studies instructor at the high school deserves kudos for taking the bull by the horn, getting himself certified through Cincinnati State to teach a dual credit class, then developing one.

Mr. Hanson has demonstrated what one person can do if unleashed from the fetters of central control and given the opportunity to explore new options that fit within the framework of our system.

The entire process did not take three years, but three months of a solitary individual's time and effort working on behalf of our children.

All it took was leadership and will, some have those characteristics and some do not.

Thank you Mr. Hanson
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Because my dear, three will be elected whether they meet with your approval or not.
Mr. Anderson has demonstrated the ability to deal with financial and business matters in the course of growing his business in the private sector. That background will prove helpful in evaluating choices of action in the coming years.
Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey on the other hand have been wrapped in the public employee cocoon their entire careers, shielded for the most part from the buffeting winds of economic life in the private sector.
Protest, stomp your feet, bang your head against the floor, even hold your breath until you pass out as much as you like, it will not change the fact that three will be elected.
NO NEED need to protest, stomp your feet, bang your head against the floor, even hold your breath until you pass out as much as you like, it will not change the fact that three will be elected...

WHY NOT...Just vote your own conscience for each one of the five school board candidates that "FITS" your family's personal basic Values systems?

Based on my basic values, this "dear one" believes that voting is a privilege to be taken very seriously; not a requirement to "vote the lesser of the evils."

The TRUTH will set you free...

Be true to yourself and you will always be a winner; even IF you do wake up on November 6, 2013, in Springboro and learn that you are living amongst a majority of losers.

VOTE FOR THE ONLY TWO SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, WHO ARE ALREADY ON BOARD, WITH OUR CURRENT BOARD'S NEW PHILOSOPHY OF CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING, ENSURING A QUALITY CLASSROOM EDUCATION WITH QUALITY CLASSROOM TEACHERS, WHILE LIVING WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF OUR
PROVEN SUCCESS OF CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGET!

VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013!
STUDENTS FIRST!
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!
PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!

NO TUT TU
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NO NEED need to protest, stomp your feet, bang your head against the floor, even hold your breath until you pass out as much as you like, it will not change the fact that three will be elected...

WHY NOT...Just vote your own conscience for each one of the five school board candidates that "FITS" your family's personal basic Values systems?

Based on my basic values, this "dear one" believes that voting is a privilege to be taken very seriously; not a requirement to "vote the lesser of the evils."

The TRUTH will set you free...

Be true to yourself and you will always be a winner; even IF you do wake up on November 6, 2013, in Springboro and learn that you are living amongst a majority of losers.

VOTE FOR THE ONLY TWO SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, WHO ARE ALREADY ON BOARD, WITH OUR CURRENT BOARD'S NEW PHILOSOPHY OF CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING, ENSURING A QUALITY CLASSROOM EDUCATION WITH QUALITY CLASSROOM TEACHERS, WHILE LIVING WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF OUR
PROVEN SUCCESS OF CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGET!

VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013!
STUDENTS FIRST!
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!
PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!
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No Turning Back wrote:
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The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let's stay on this new course and move in the direction of FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES leadership for our children, schools, and community.
VOTE FOR THE ONLY TWO "FIXING BUDGETS/LEVY ALTERNATIVES" SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013.
DAVID BITNER And KOLTON VAUGHN SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
OUR STUDENTS FIRST FUTURE EDUCATION DEPENDS ON IT!
The time has come to STAND UP FOR TRUTH at the polls on
November 5,2013... Our souls are deserving of elected officials who can be trusted..... Our financial survival in our schools and communities depend upon it....

VOTE NOVEMBER 5 ONLY FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBLE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS THAT CAN BE TRUSTED WITH OUR HARD-EARNED TAX DOLLARS!
VOTE FOR: Steve Muterspaw for Clearcreek Township Trustee
VOTE TO RE-ELECT Cathy Anspach for Clearcreek Township Trustee

INCLUDING OUR LOCAL SCHOOL GOVERNMENT....
VOTE ONLY FOR STUDENTS FIRST/RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!
School board candidates David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn should be our next TWO elected Board of Education representatives.
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And don't forget Mr. Anderson, a more deserving soul could not exist in Springboro.
What do you mean, "a more deserving soul could not exist in Springboro?" Have YOU personally examined ALL the souls in Springboro; and by what AUTHORITY do you have to determine such judgement?

Don't forget: Springboro voters have been told that Mr. Malone will win election and is deserving on the basis of name recognition and being insanely popular in the community....

Don't forget: Springboro voters have been told that Mr.Stuckey will win election on the basis of his promise to re-instate Mr. Holtrey to his deserving and rightful position as sports coach...

So on what basis does this "deserving soul" of union school board candidate Charles Anderson "EARN MY VOTE?"
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Anti Kohls video seems very desperate instigated by Obamaís Lawless legions:



TRUTH over Lies by Kelly Kohls 8-Oct-2013
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Remember in November....

SPRINGBORO TAXPAYERS ARE UNDER ATTACK OF OPPRESIVE UNIONISM!

STAND UP FOR FREEDOM AND TRUTH ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013!

VOTE ONLY FOR SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES WHO
WILL STAND UP FOR FREEDOM AND TRUTH WITH SPRINGBORO FAMILIES AND TAXPAYING HOMEOWNERS AT THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER AND WAY BEYOND...

OUR FUTURE DEPENDS UPON IT!

OUR CHILDREN DESERVE IT!

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