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Doug Wiedeman

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Lurker wrote:
Malone/Stuckey/Anderson also participated in the League of Women Voter's forum. The other 2 were no shows. Don't try to tell me this was a partisan forum!
http://mvcc.pegcentral.com/player.php...
League of Women Voter's policy, no one will mistake this for middle of the road.

Anyone in the crowd care to define social and economic justice for us all?

Social Policy Advocacy

The league works to "secure equal rights and equal opportunity for all, to promote social and economic justice, and to secure the health and safety of all Americans," yet has previously opposed lowering the voting age.

The league has worked on a broad range of activities under the rubric of "Social Policy" including ending racial discrimination, providing equal access to quality education, fair housing, health care, and gun control.

The League of Women Voters of the United States supports the abolition of the death penalty.

The League celebrated the success of the Affordable Care Act.

The League supports a general income tax increase to finance national health care reform for the inclusion of reproductive health care, including abortion, in any health benefits package.

The League strongly opposed the passage of the Partial-Birth Abortion Act.

The League actively opposed welfare reform legislation proposed in the 104th Congress.

Persons who are unable to work, whose earnings are inadequate or for whom jobs are not available have the right to an income and/or services sufficient to meet their basic needs for food, shelter and access to health care.
—National Board, January 1989

The League advocates affirmative action programs for minorities and women and opposes private school vouchers.

The League supports a system for unauthorized (illegal) immigrants already in the country to earn legal status, including citizenship.

The League could support deficit spending, if necessary, for stimulating the economy and opposes across-the-board federal spending cuts except for reductions in defense spending.

The League opposes a balanced budget constitutional amendment.

The League of Women Voters of the United States believes that the proliferation of handguns and semi-automatic assault weapons in the United States is a major health and safety threat to its citizens. The League supports strong federal measures to limit the accessibility and regulate the ownership of these weapons by private citizens. The League supports regulating firearms for consumer safety and supports licensing procedures for gun ownership by private citizens to include a waiting period for background check, personal identity verification, gun safety education and annual license renewal.
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League of Women Voter's non partisan, I think we put the lie to that claim.
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So, what ever happen to Chris Vecchi, the CCFD assistant chief who posed as Kelly Kohls to try and get their 4.5 million dollar fire levy passed this past May? Is he in jail? Do you think the fire dhief put him put to this or did ED WADE and DALE LAMB? Think about it!
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No debate means No choice wrote:
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I simply brought up that it was out there. I have nothing to do with the "tone" of the clip, just trying to show how the community is being viewed elsewhere. Why is everything a war around here? Everything is left or right. That's not the way the world is.
Everything around here is not a war; nor is everything around here left or right.

Everything around here is Union First gaining control and power over our school tax dollars VS Staying the Course with our successful Children's First Budgeting....

No Debate About it...No turning back...

VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN -- November 5, 2013
Students First/Responsible Budgeting
A Win-Win Ticket for all our students and their families,
all our school employees, and all taxpayers!
We have it all!

BUT, remember, the union school board candidates, Ron Malone- David Stuckey-Charles Anderson ONLY represent our SEA President, Scott Maney, who WANTS more, more, more... and plans to take it ALL if voters elect a Union-Controlled Board of Education.
Same Old Boro

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I have lived here since 1996. In the county since 1975. Springboro has always, and will always be, the same old Boro crowd. The have and the want to haves...BLAME THE UNION!!! no no, BLAME THE RIGHT WING WHACKO'S...Both sides are out of touch with anyone with common sense values. One side believes that ALL public servants should act and behave as servants. Be seen and not heard. Act like good little servants and we will throw you a bone now and again. Then there are the liberal thinkers...(is that possible)...Give us the gold and we shall share it throughout the land. We will take from all of the rich and teach how God has no place in our public lives.....If anyone is to take anything on this forum as serious debate then all of the name calling and national political posturing has to stop. I like Malone, not sure about stuckey, and Anderson is a NO. Kull is okay, and Bitner...well who the hell is he? As long as our school board respects the employees, the parents and the students enough to permit quality education without breaking the tax payers bank to do so is okay with me. When you get out there and want to bring a political agenda to the school district and focus non education issues upon the students and staff then that is a bad thing. Everyone, and I mean everyone should go thank Dr. David Baker for the condition and mistrust of the people. He lied and built his lies so tall that they had to fall. Then comes along Red headed Mary and her tea drinkers with their right wing force feeding....hopefully the school district can get members to work together to strengthen the school district and continue the excellence that has been a very good public education for the students in the area. I vote for Malone, Kull, and to be determined. Attend the debates and questions and answers.
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So, what ever happen to Chris Vecchi, the CCFD assistant chief who posed as Kelly Kohls to try and get their 4.5 million dollar fire levy passed this past May? Is he in jail? Do you think the fire dhief put him put to this or did ED WADE and DALE LAMB? Think about it!
Resolution No. 4457 dated October 8, 2013

As a matter of agreement

The Employee acknowledges that he has been accused of violating
Ohio Reivsed Code Section 2913.42 for allegedly posting on Topix.com as if he were another person. Clearcreek Township Police Chief John Terrill has advised that he has concluded his investigation and ....

NO CRIMINAL CHARGES WILL BE PURSUED AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE.

(For full record you can check with your Clearcreek Township Administrator, Dennis Pickett, for complete details of agreement).
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Same Old Boro wrote:
I have lived here since 1996. In the county since 1975. Springboro has always, and will always be, the same old Boro crowd. The have and the want to haves...BLAME THE UNION!!! no no, BLAME THE RIGHT WING WHACKO'S...Both sides are out of touch with anyone with common sense values. One side believes that ALL public servants should act and behave as servants. Be seen and not heard. Act like good little servants and we will throw you a bone now and again. Then there are the liberal thinkers...(is that possible)...Give us the gold and we shall share it throughout the land. We will take from all of the rich and teach how God has no place in our public lives.....If anyone is to take anything on this forum as serious debate then all of the name calling and national political posturing has to stop. I like Malone, not sure about stuckey, and Anderson is a NO. Kull is okay, and Bitner...well who the hell is he? As long as our school board respects the employees, the parents and the students enough to permit quality education without breaking the tax payers bank to do so is okay with me. When you get out there and want to bring a political agenda to the school district and focus non education issues upon the students and staff then that is a bad thing. Everyone, and I mean everyone should go thank Dr. David Baker for the condition and mistrust of the people. He lied and built his lies so tall that they had to fall. Then comes along Red headed Mary and her tea drinkers with their right wing force feeding....hopefully the school district can get members to work together to strengthen the school district and continue the excellence that has been a very good public education for the students in the area. I vote for Malone, Kull, and to be determined. Attend the debates and questions and answers.
Enough with the pious sermonizing.

Kull is not running for Springboro school board election.

Malone has told community voters that his past experience does not FIT with the financial/academic realities of our students first 21st century education....

No debate about it; Only David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn FIT the needs of our school children and community voters with their "already on board" winning agenda of Students First/Responsible Budgeting!
Increased pay for ALL School employees/Slight Reduction in Renewal Levy for ALL Springboro families/taxpayers!
Stay the Course in 2013!

Vote November 5, 2013 for non-union school board candidates,
DAVID BITNER - KOLTON VAUGHN!
It's a Win-Win Ticket for a quality classroom education, keeping our schools and community both safe and affordable!
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I vote with my wallet..no union minded board members get my vote. Baker has taught us how much he and the union goons lie.
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Unionized War of Words wrote:
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Resolution No. 4457 dated October 8, 2013
As a matter of agreement
The Employee acknowledges that he has been accused of violating
Ohio Reivsed Code Section 2913.42 for allegedly posting on Topix.com as if he were another person. Clearcreek Township Police Chief John Terrill has advised that he has concluded his investigation and ....
NO CRIMINAL CHARGES WILL BE PURSUED AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE.
(For full record you can check with your Clearcreek Township Administrator, Dennis Pickett, for complete details of agreement).
outrageous...this smells like Wade paid off yet another county official !
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outrageous...this smells like Wade paid off yet another county official !
Imagine that, one Clearcreek employee investigating another and finds nothing worth charging......what is this, the Dudes of Hazard ? If you Clearcreek residents don't smell something rotten in Denmark, you all deserve to have Wade continue to take you money.
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What the F*$% is THIS CRAP?

Fire official demoted for blog blunder
Posted: 10:59 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2013, DDN

An assistant fire chief in Clearcreek Twp. was demoted Tuesday as part of an agreement ending a police investigation prompted by a complaint by the local school board president about someone stealing her identity in an internet blog.

The Clearcreek Twp. trustees voted unanimously to demote Christopher Vecchi from assistant fire chief for a year in a “last chance agreement.” Vecchi agreed to use sick time and paid time off to compensate the township for his pay since being placed on paid leave on Aug. 16.

Vecchi was suspended after Kelly Kohls, president of the Springboro school board, filed a complaint with Clearcreek Twp. police on July 27 that someone had posed as her in an internet blog focused on Springboro school levy issues, according to a police report.

The blog post was made on July 27 in a discussion of the need for a school levy in Springboro. The board recently voted to seek renewal of a reduced levy for operating funds after months of heated community debate. District voters have rejected five consecutive levies for new operating funds.

Vecchi’s initial disciplinary notice stated that he was accused of identity fraud, a fifth degree felony. According to Tuesday’s agreement, township Police Chief John Terrill “has concluded his investigation and no criminal charges will be pursued.”

Vecchi’s paid leave became a suspension through Tuesday’s agreement. He must pass a fitness examination to return to work, according to the agreement.

“Any future misconduct may result in discipline, up to and including his termination,” according to the agreement.

Vecchi, named assistant chief in February 2012, joined the department in 2003.
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What the F*$% is THIS CRAP?
Fire official demoted for blog blunder
Posted: 10:59 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2013, DDN
An assistant fire chief in Clearcreek Twp. was demoted Tuesday as part of an agreement ending a police investigation prompted by a complaint by the local school board president about someone stealing her identity in an internet blog.
The Clearcreek Twp. trustees voted unanimously to demote Christopher Vecchi from assistant fire chief for a year in a “last chance agreement.” Vecchi agreed to use sick time and paid time off to compensate the township for his pay since being placed on paid leave on Aug. 16.
Vecchi was suspended after Kelly Kohls, president of the Springboro school board, filed a complaint with Clearcreek Twp. police on July 27 that someone had posed as her in an internet blog focused on Springboro school levy issues, according to a police report.
The blog post was made on July 27 in a discussion of the need for a school levy in Springboro. The board recently voted to seek renewal of a reduced levy for operating funds after months of heated community debate. District voters have rejected five consecutive levies for new operating funds.
Vecchi’s initial disciplinary notice stated that he was accused of identity fraud, a fifth degree felony. According to Tuesday’s agreement, township Police Chief John Terrill “has concluded his investigation and no criminal charges will be pursued.”
Vecchi’s paid leave became a suspension through Tuesday’s agreement. He must pass a fitness examination to return to work, according to the agreement.
“Any future misconduct may result in discipline, up to and including his termination,” according to the agreement.
Vecchi, named assistant chief in February 2012, joined the department in 2003.
and fire dept officials can't understand why their fire levy failed...maybe someone ought to investigate the police chief in the township as well...they are all thick as thieves in that township...and the so called leader of the township, Wade, is no saint either....what a corrupt township !
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I was shocked, disappointed, and deeply saddened to hear that CCFD Assistant Chris Vecchi was found guilty of ID theft! This is totally unacceptable behavior for a public safety employee, who is given the trust of Springboro families, to protect the safety of all citizens; and Mr. Vecchi should be fired.
What a second slap in the face for Springboro families to know that Mr. Vecchi was a "trusted" member of our School Board Safety Committee;
who obviously felt so empowered with his unionism job security, that he could actually steal the good name of our school board president, just to spread lies to discredit and distort her good service; promoting the November election of union school board candidate, Ron Malone!
In good conscience in efforts to restore that lost trust, Ron Malone should withdraw his name from the school board election.

People in the community should ask ourselves IF this type of union empowerment of "no way but the union way" is what we want as a board representative majority in Springboro Schools.
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fr distinct to proficient wrote:
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The 2013 Ohio School Report Cards are now public.
The lowest 20% of Boro's students are being neglected. Something that would really be interesting would be knowing the average family income of this lowest 20% of Boro students.
http://reportcard.education.ohio.gov/Pages/Di...
Thank you so much Mr. Wiedeman for your incredible diligence!
Vote November 5, 2013 for DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN!
Non-Union School Board Candidates!
Parents Representing Parents!
Students First/Responsible Budgeting!
Providing a quality classroom education for ALL our Students while keeping our schools AND community BOTH safe AND affordable!

Spread the good news! It's Something Worth Repeating!
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What the F*$% is THIS CRAP?
Fire official demoted for blog blunder
Posted: 10:59 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2013, DDN
An assistant fire chief in Clearcreek Twp. was demoted Tuesday as part of an agreement ending a police investigation prompted by a complaint by the local school board president about someone stealing her identity in an internet blog.
The Clearcreek Twp. trustees voted unanimously to demote Christopher Vecchi from assistant fire chief for a year in a “last chance agreement.” Vecchi agreed to use sick time and paid time off to compensate the township for his pay since being placed on paid leave on Aug. 16.
Vecchi was suspended after Kelly Kohls, president of the Springboro school board, filed a complaint with Clearcreek Twp. police on July 27 that someone had posed as her in an internet blog focused on Springboro school levy issues, according to a police report.
The blog post was made on July 27 in a discussion of the need for a school levy in Springboro. The board recently voted to seek renewal of a reduced levy for operating funds after months of heated community debate. District voters have rejected five consecutive levies for new operating funds.
Vecchi’s initial disciplinary notice stated that he was accused of identity fraud, a fifth degree felony. According to Tuesday’s agreement, township Police Chief John Terrill “has concluded his investigation and no criminal charges will be pursued.”
Vecchi’s paid leave became a suspension through Tuesday’s agreement. He must pass a fitness examination to return to work, according to the agreement.
“Any future misconduct may result in discipline, up to and including his termination,” according to the agreement.
Vecchi, named assistant chief in February 2012, joined the department in 2003.
This shocks anyone?

The booster treasurer steals untold dollars, most likely in the $1,000,000 range, and gets 90 days with work release privileges.

This gentleman in supposed to be the second in command at the Fire Department with such pitiful and corrosive judgement?
Ask Ron Malone

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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Wow is this a stretch and a blatant attempt to recast history.
As a single member on the board of education your influence is limited to what you can persuade others is important.
One out of five never carries the day.
Until the arrival of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, there was neither the will nor the desire to get to the bottom of the pay to participate scam.
With the Budget and Finance Committee the taxpayers for the first time had the opportunity to delve into the murky waters of athletic funding in this community. What was uncovered through the diligent and persistent efforts of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano was the massive fraud that had been ongoing for nearly two decades.
As part of the formula for deciding how much pay to participate was going to be for each athlete, an accurate accounting of the amount of monies raised by the Boosters to support our athletic programs needed to be derived.
After five months of consistent prodding by the Budget and Finance Committee in pursuing an accounting from the group, and five months of delay and excuses on why they could or would not deliver those numbers, Mr. Harves would not have surrendered the books and himself to the police.
The larger question is where was Mr. Malone during the past 12 years he was associated with the high school as principal. Mr. Malone attended every game or event that he could. Mr. Malone enjoyed good relations with all of the players involved in the programs raising money for our children. Mr. Malone could not help but notice that our concession stands did quite well at football games, and fund raisers like casino night brought in great bundles of cash. How did Mr. Malone not notice the take was light?
Working in the concession stands as a volunteer the first time I noted that the funds were handled in a haphazard manner. No one counted them, they just stuffed them into a brown paper bag and handed them off to a principal and assistant principal. When I queried them the second time they came through about where the money was going, they replied "The Boosters." Who are the Boosters I asked, they replied they did not know any names but that was to whom they gave the money. No money, from my observation, was ever counted or recorded, it was just scooped up and sent off into the night.
For 12 years that he was principal Mr. Malone observed this program and all of its shortcomings.
School Policy 6330 states
E. Advisors, coaches, or sponsors shall be selected at the direction of the Superintendent or designee and their duties shall consist of preparing the annual budget and purpose clause of their activity group; supervising the activities of their group, including preparation of fund raising potentials and maintaining group financial oversight; and such other duties as assigned by the principal or Superintendent.
F. All school sponsored athletic fund raising activities shall have proper approval by the Athletic Director, and Superintendent/Designee.
Revised 3/14/06
Who was the Athletic Director's boss at the High School? The Principal.
Who was charged with supervising the activities of these groups at the High School? The Principal
Who was the man who did not protect the students, the parents, and the taxpayers from massive fraud for during his tenure as principal?
Mr. Malone
Who was the man who did not protect the students, the parents, and the taxpayers from massive fraud for during his tenure as principal?
Mr. Malone

Can union school board candidate, Mr. Malone, be trusted to protect our Students First best interest in every decision the board makes with your hard-earned school tax dollars?
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Mr Wiedeman, I appreciate your insight and due diligence. I am curious, have you ever recieved a response from Dr Malone in regards to your data?
Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
Doug Wiedeman

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I would be most happy to debate Mr. Malone regarding his interpretation of theOhio Achievement Assessment tests results for our school district.

Let's all ask Mr. Malone why we accept FAILURE as PROFICIENT.

While you are at it, bring along Mr. Stuckey.

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debating mr M is like debating jello he will spin the numbers to his understanding and not hear any thoughts just like union
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debating mr M is like debating jello he will spin the numbers to his understanding and not hear any thoughts just like union
Mighty hard to spin PROFICIENT as anything but FAILURE.

Who among us would see anyone as scoring 34% on a test as anything but FAILING?

Spin as you wish, the hard reality is that literally thousands of our children are not getting the quality education the tax payers have funded.

At the high school level under Mr. Malone, the High Schools That Work report from January 2013 notes "only 43% of the Springboro High School students have completed the High Schools That Work recommended curriculum (Ohio Core), a 34% DECREASE from 2008."

Not my words, but the words of the professional peers of Mr. Malone who are paid to evaluate high schools for the Warren County Educational Service Center.

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