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Xenia, OH

#27301 Sep 12, 2013
Question Everything wrote:
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OK - Let's play your silly game of ignorant interrogation!
It is NONE of YOUR business because I do not work for YOU!
(Did you know -- You remind me of Principal Ron's Kids taunting the BOE elected officials "which one of you is lying?" Were you there in the SHS auditorium last March 2012, watching Principal Ron smile and nod in approval as his kids performed his acts of "public and embarassing defiance? Where's the "excellence"
in that insanely popular leadership?)
However, it is MY business to question everything about the Springboro Schools Curriculum that is purchased with taxpayers money to teach our students a quality education that goes "beyond" the Social Studies director's narrow vision of keeping our kids left behind in global learning.
What social studies direcor and what "global" learning.(global to mean they teach it everywhere around the globe global, including China??)

Just questioning....
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27302 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
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How did you know I voted for Reagan!
Good for you.
Words of Wisdom

Akron, OH

#27303 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>
What social studies direcor and what "global" learning.(global to mean they teach it everywhere around the globe global, including China??)
Just questioning....
I try to be really aware (of differences among students), and I am always working on it. I am not very critical of other people..you have to be nonjudgemental. You have to be supportive. To me, that is how you deliver messages and change minds.
(Bill Simpson)
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27304 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>
What social studies direcor and what "global" learning.(global to mean they teach it everywhere around the globe global, including China??)
Just questioning....
Would that be Ms Dauber?
Did You Know

Akron, OH

#27305 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>
What social studies direcor and what "global" learning.(global to mean they teach it everywhere around the globe global, including China??)
Just questioning....
In 2009, 51 percent of U.S. patents were awarded to non-U.S. companies. Only four of the top ten companies receiving
U.S. patents last year were U.S companies.

Federal funding of research in the physical sciences as a fraction of GDP fell by 54 percent in the twenty-five years after 1970. The decline in engineering funding was 51 percent.

Sixty-nine percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught mathematics by a teacher without a degree or certificate in mathematics.

Nine-three percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught the physical sciences by a teacher without a degree or certificate in the physical sciences.

The total annual federal investment in research in mathematics, the physical sciences, and engineering is now equal to the increase in U.S. health-care costs every nine weeks.

China's Tsinghya and Peking Universities are the two largest suppliers of students who receive Ph.D's -- in the United States....

and fnally.... 49 percent of U.S. adults do not know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.
Do your homework

Xenia, OH

#27306 Sep 12, 2013
Did You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
In 2009, 51 percent of U.S. patents were awarded to non-U.S. companies. Only four of the top ten companies receiving
U.S. patents last year were U.S companies.
Federal funding of research in the physical sciences as a fraction of GDP fell by 54 percent in the twenty-five years after 1970. The decline in engineering funding was 51 percent.
Sixty-nine percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught mathematics by a teacher without a degree or certificate in mathematics.
Nine-three percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught the physical sciences by a teacher without a degree or certificate in the physical sciences.
The total annual federal investment in research in mathematics, the physical sciences, and engineering is now equal to the increase in U.S. health-care costs every nine weeks.
China's Tsinghya and Peking Universities are the two largest suppliers of students who receive Ph.D's -- in the United States....
and fnally.... 49 percent of U.S. adults do not know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.
Actually 49% is a little off:
"
•Only 53% of adults know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.
•Only 59% of adults know that the earliest humans and dinosaurs did not live at the same time.
•Only 47% of adults can roughly approximate the percent of the Earth's surface that is covered with water.*
•Only 21% of adults answered all three questions correctly.
"
- http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/...

I find the second one particularly interesting...
The More You Know

Akron, OH

#27307 Sep 12, 2013
Question Everything wrote:
Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners are questiong WHY our Springboro Education Association employees find it such hard duty teaching our students the TRUTH about the History of our Great American History! Somehow, it just doesn't seem very professional (or smart!).
"Teaching should be such that what is offered is perceived as a valuable gift and not as a hard duty." -Albert Einstein
Praise for: A Patriot's History of the United States!
"A welcome, refreshing, and solid contribution to relearning what we have forgotten and remembering why this nation is good, and worth defending." - National Review
Do your homework

Xenia, OH

#27308 Sep 12, 2013
Did You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
In 2009, 51 percent of U.S. patents were awarded to non-U.S. companies. Only four of the top ten companies receiving
U.S. patents last year were U.S companies.
Federal funding of research in the physical sciences as a fraction of GDP fell by 54 percent in the twenty-five years after 1970. The decline in engineering funding was 51 percent.
Sixty-nine percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught mathematics by a teacher without a degree or certificate in mathematics.
Nine-three percent of U.S. public school students in the fifth through eighth grade are taught the physical sciences by a teacher without a degree or certificate in the physical sciences.
The total annual federal investment in research in mathematics, the physical sciences, and engineering is now equal to the increase in U.S. health-care costs every nine weeks.
China's Tsinghya and Peking Universities are the two largest suppliers of students who receive Ph.D's -- in the United States....
and fnally.... 49 percent of U.S. adults do not know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.
I am guessing you support the common core since you cited many facts from STEM (science common core).
Do your homework

Xenia, OH

#27309 Sep 12, 2013
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Praise for: A Patriot's History of the United States!
"A welcome, refreshing, and solid contribution to relearning what we have forgotten and remembering why this nation is good, and worth defending." - National Review
What else would you expect from the National Review.(Conservative commentary on American politics, news and culture.)
Any non-partisan praise?
The More You Know

Akron, OH

#27310 Sep 12, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Would that be Ms Dauber?
In praise for:
48 Liberal Lies About American History

When students learn the facts about our country, the good and the bad, the story that emerges excites and inspires! Dr. Schweikart cuts through the ideology that characterizes too many history books and describes events and individuals of America's history as we should know them, based on the facts."
(AZ U.S Senator Jon Kyl)
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Xenia, OH

#27311 Sep 12, 2013
The More You Know wrote:
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In praise for:
48 Liberal Lies About American History
When students learn the facts about our country, the good and the bad, the story that emerges excites and inspires! Dr. Schweikart cuts through the ideology that characterizes too many history books and describes events and individuals of America's history as we should know them, based on the facts."
(AZ U.S Senator Jon Kyl)
You forgot to mention that Jon Kyl "served as Senate Minority Whip, the second-highest position in the Republican Senate leadership" - Wikipedia

Again, partisan.
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27312 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
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You forgot to mention that Jon Kyl "served as Senate Minority Whip, the second-highest position in the Republican Senate leadership" - Wikipedia
Again, partisan.
Again, partisan or whatever, what's in a name?

Springboro schools professional educators, no matter their politics of Unionism, are accountable to school district taxpayers to provide a quality 21st century classroom education, and that includes using curriculum that presents a fluid account of America from the discovery of the Continent up to the present day.
Truth is Truth. No Question About It. Our Children's Future Depends Upon It!
tellthetruth

Brunswick, OH

#27313 Sep 12, 2013
School board president brought identity fraud complaint

Assistant fire chief under investigation Blog post basis for identity fraud probe

Posted: 12:05 a.m. Thursday, Sept. 12, 2013

By Lawrence Budd - Staff Writer
Kelly Kohls, president of the Springboro school board, filed a complaint that resulted in the investigation of an assistant fire chief facing an identity fraud allegation, according to a police report obtained by the Dayton Daily News.

Kohls reported to Clearcreek Twp. police on July 27 that someone posed as her in an internet blog focused on Springboro school levy issues, according to the report.

The initial report that triggered the investgation of Chris Vecchi, assistant fire chief in Clearcreek Township, was obtained Wednesday in response to a newspaper request for documents.

The blog post was made on July 27 in a discussion of the need for a school levy in Springboro, according to the report.

The board recently voted to seek renewal of a reduced levy for operating funds after months of heated community debate. District voters have rejected five consecutive levies for new operating funds.

Vecchi was placed on administrative leave on Aug. 15, pending results of an identity fraud investigation by police and an internal investigation, according to township records.

Authorities began focusing on Vecchi after investigating Kohls’ complaint and obtaining a warrant that enabled them to identify the source of the blog posting, Clearcreek Twp. Police Chief John Terrill said Wednesday.

No charges have been filed.

Terrill said he still is investigating whether there is enough proof to bring one or more criminal charges.

“That may lead to one. It may lead to more than one,” Terrill said.

Vecchi’s suspension notice said he is accused of identity fraud, a fifth-degree felony.

The Clearcreeek Township Fire District provides fire protection and ambulance service in Springboro and the township. Springboro has its own police department.

Kohls, who is not seeking re-election, could not be reached for comment.

Vecchi’s lawyer said he is working with a township lawyer to resolve the matter.

As part of his administrative leave requirements, Vecchi, a firefighter in Clearcreek Twp. since September 2003, is required to remain at his home from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. on weekdays. No disciplinary hearing has been scheduled.

Warren County Prosecutor David Fornshell said his office was contacted by Clearcreek police about an identity fraud case.

“Nobody was identified at that time,” Fornshell said in an email earlier this week.

In Ohio, identity fraud is the criminal charge used in cases involving the alleged theft of a person’s identity or fraud committed using the stolen identity, according to authorities.

“Identity theft and identity fraud are terms used to refer to all types of crime in which someone wrongfully obtains and uses another person’s personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain,” according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

There is no allegation of financial gain in this case. Still Terrill said using someone’s identity on a blog could result in criminal action.

“Sometimes you are responsible for the words that you write,” Terrill said.
Boro parent of two

Girard, OH

#27314 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>
You forgot to mention that Jon Kyl "served as Senate Minority Whip, the second-highest position in the Republican Senate leadership" - Wikipedia
Again, partisan.
For the sake of our childrens' futures and for the sake of this nation's continued existence why not put partisan politics aside? Why not simply insist that American History be written and instructed in an ACCURATE manner based upon the most irrefutable evidence and documentation available?
Do your homework

Maineville, OH

#27315 Sep 12, 2013
Boro parent of two wrote:
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For the sake of our childrens' futures and for the sake of this nation's continued existence why not put partisan politics aside? Why not simply insist that American History be written and instructed in an ACCURATE manner based upon the most irrefutable evidence and documentation available?
Couldn't agree more. Funny how when you talk about evolution then we need to present a "controversial view", but when talking about a conservative view on history don't present the librial (controversial) view. These people are all about presenting one side. Some of the things the speaker said tonight are just wrong. He stated he doesn't see race or gender when viewing history?(Must mean he's for gay marriage.) How can you write a book on history without addressing slavery, women's sufferage or Martin Luther King? Guess you only write about what you care about.
No Doubt

Akron, OH

#27316 Sep 12, 2013
Learn this lesson wrote:
<quoted text>Less is more......ever heard if that one?
"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt" -Abe Lincoln
No doubt our liberal friend for S-U-R-E has never heard of that one.
Do your homework

Maineville, OH

#27317 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>
Couldn't agree more. Funny how when you talk about evolution then we need to present a "controversial view", but when talking about a conservative view on history don't present the librial (controversial) view. These people are all about presenting one side. Some of the things the speaker said tonight are just wrong. He stated he doesn't see race or gender when viewing history?(Must mean he's for gay marriage.) How can you write a book on history without addressing slavery, women's sufferage or Martin Luther King? Guess you only write about what you care about.
Actually he stated "as a conservative he REJECTS race, gender and class and their effect on history"
Do your homework

Maineville, OH

#27318 Sep 12, 2013
The speaker tonight also stated about how many jobs Reagan created, didn't mention Clinton almost doubled his numbers.(numbers are in thousands)

Ronald Reagan R 1981–1985 +5,322 +1.43%
Ronald Reagan R 1985–1989 +10,780 +2.69%
George H. W. Bush R 1989–1993 +2,593 +0.60%
Bill Clinton D 1993–1997 +11,507 +2.52%
Bill Clinton D 1997–2001 +11,233 +2.24%
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 -13 -0.00%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 +1,129 +0.21%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 +1,208 +0.23%

taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_dur...
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27319 Sep 12, 2013
Do your homework wrote:
The speaker tonight also stated about how many jobs Reagan created, didn't mention Clinton almost doubled his numbers.(numbers are in thousands)
Ronald Reagan R 1981–1985 +5,322 +1.43%
Ronald Reagan R 1985–1989 +10,780 +2.69%
George H. W. Bush R 1989–1993 +2,593 +0.60%
Bill Clinton D 1993–1997 +11,507 +2.52%
Bill Clinton D 1997–2001 +11,233 +2.24%
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 -13 -0.00%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 +1,129 +0.21%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 +1,208 +0.23%
taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_dur...
You do of course know that not one of those presidents created job one in the private sector for anyone.

Not one.

If you are going to present credit to someone that credit needs to first and foremost to one Paul Volcker. He was Chairman of the Federal Reserve under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan from August 1979 to August 1987. He is widely credited with ending the high levels of inflation seen in the United States during the 1970s and early 1980s. Mr. Volcker had the guts to wring the inflation out of the economy so real growth could once again sustain itself.

Following the monetarist teachings of influential University of Chicago economist Milton Friedman, Volcker resolved to "slay the inflationary dragon" by sharply curtailing the growth of the money supply. That monetary contraction, imposed starting in 1980, succeeded in its primary objective; the inflation rate fell from a devastating high of 13.5% in 1980 to just 3.2% by 1983.19 However, it also produced a sharp jump in real interest rates that contributed to the brutal recession of 1981-82. The national unemployment rate exceeded 10% throughout 1982, rendering more Americans jobless than at any time since the Great Depression.(Not coincidentally, President Reagan's public approval rating bottomed out at just 35% that same year.)

To his great credit, however, Reagan stuck by Volcker even when it would have been politically expedient for him to pressure the Fed Chairman to expand the money supply to provide a short-term boost to the economy. Both men's patience paid off after 1983, when—with inflation under control at last—the economy began growing again. That growth continued, unabated, through the rest of Reagan's two-term presidency, marking the longest peacetime period of unbroken economic expansion yet seen in American history.(An even longer boom would occur a decade later, during a Bill Clinton presidency that largely followed Reagan's lead in economic policy.) Overall, between 1981 and 1989, real GDP per capita increased by nearly 23%; in the same span of time, the value of the stock market more than tripled.

That burst of twenty years of effectively sustained growth was the result of the foundation laid by Mr. Volcker and Mr. Reagan. The Clinton "boom" was also the beneficiary of the Congressional elections of 1994 when Republicans began control of the House for more than two years for the first time since 1931. The Clinton boom most surely would never have occurred had not Reagan stayed the course in 1981 and 1982.

The economy works best when the central planners are left out in the cold.
Do your homework

Maineville, OH

#27320 Sep 12, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
You do of course know that not one of those presidents created job one in the private sector for anyone.
Not one.
If you are going to present credit to someone that credit needs to first and foremost to one Paul Volcker. He was Chairman of the Federal Reserve under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan from August 1979 to August 1987. He is widely credited with ending the high levels of inflation seen in the United States during the 1970s and early 1980s. Mr. Volcker had the guts to wring the inflation out of the economy so real growth could once again sustain itself.
Following the monetarist teachings of influential University of Chicago economist Milton Friedman, Volcker resolved to "slay the inflationary dragon" by sharply curtailing the growth of the money supply. That monetary contraction, imposed starting in 1980, succeeded in its primary objective; the inflation rate fell from a devastating high of 13.5% in 1980 to just 3.2% by 1983.19 However, it also produced a sharp jump in real interest rates that contributed to the brutal recession of 1981-82. The national unemployment rate exceeded 10% throughout 1982, rendering more Americans jobless than at any time since the Great Depression.(Not coincidentally, President Reagan's public approval rating bottomed out at just 35% that same year.)
To his great credit, however, Reagan stuck by Volcker even when it would have been politically expedient for him to pressure the Fed Chairman to expand the money supply to provide a short-term boost to the economy. Both men's patience paid off after 1983, when—with inflation under control at last—the economy began growing again. That growth continued, unabated, through the rest of Reagan's two-term presidency, marking the longest peacetime period of unbroken economic expansion yet seen in American history.(An even longer boom would occur a decade later, during a Bill Clinton presidency that largely followed Reagan's lead in economic policy.) Overall, between 1981 and 1989, real GDP per capita increased by nearly 23%; in the same span of time, the value of the stock market more than tripled.
That burst of twenty years of effectively sustained growth was the result of the foundation laid by Mr. Volcker and Mr. Reagan. The Clinton "boom" was also the beneficiary of the Congressional elections of 1994 when Republicans began control of the House for more than two years for the first time since 1931. The Clinton boom most surely would never have occurred had not Reagan stayed the course in 1981 and 1982.
The economy works best when the central planners are left out in the cold.
Good god tell it to Schweikart, he brought it up. The stock market is now at it's highest it's ever been. It was just under 8,000 when Obama took office. It has climbed over 7,000 during the Obama presidency (almost doubling). But I'm guessing you'll find a way to not give him credit for that.

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