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#27239 Sep 8, 2013
Could it be -
The type of education is the current problem. That must be solved before ways of funding it can be analyzed. In the most simplified form, teaching and the responsibility of education must shift back to the parents and away from government, particularly at the state and federal level. The collective summation of all a community’s children thrown into a big pot of stew while the parents run around doing whatever they feel like as community funded baby sitters take care of their offspring is not working. The parents get lazy because public teachers are raising their kids. Teachers get lazy at their jobs because there are no measurements of quality to keep their job. They get paid pretty much the same whether they are good or bad teachers because their collective bargaining agreement says so, an agreement that robs money from every home in a school district for a system that is a complete failure.
#27240 Sep 9, 2013
Inquiring minds must question the principles of the collective three school board candidates, Malone.Stuckey.Anderson, and get the message out that this threesome seek to reverse the successful direction in which our schools are headed, way beyond the November 2013 popularity contest at the polls. Inquiring minds must remember that Mr. Malone refused to "do it for the children" in March 2012 when he refused to accept a job promotion (with increased responsibilities) that would allow him to utilize his 40 years of educational expertise, to the benefit of all our students.
Mr. Malone chose the bottom line of gaining control of the Board of Education agenda by organizing Principal Ron's Kids community-wide March 2012 rally to "re-instate Ron Malone." Mr. Malone's self-interest priority, as high school principal, was to continue enjoying his popularity within the high school community. Isn't this November 2013 bid for school board election just a continuation of his good old "high school days?" And don't Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners demand much more in return for our investment in our students' quality classroom education for the 21st century?
#27241 Sep 9, 2013
Thank you so much for posting this insightful Malone quote.
Ron Malone has never been a school superintendent, but do you know the key difference between Ron Malone and former superintendent Dr. David Baker?
Baker is manipulative, egotistical, and very closely adheres to jaded agendas.
Malone very closely adheres to jaded agendas.
#27242 Sep 9, 2013
Why would our Springboro citizens even consider voting for school board candidates,(Malone/Stuckey/And erson) who are deeply embedded in the old school training of the Ohio School Board Association indoctrination, Promoting a continuous stream of new levies; Hiring more union teachers to provide more fun classes at taxpayers' expense; and then emotionally Blackmailing parents with threats of SEA strike, if levies don't pass to increase the generous salaries and compensation/benefits package afforded our school district teachers and staff?
#27243 Sep 9, 2013
If Malone in fact made these mistakes knowingly, I believe it's very important for each and every district parent, voter and 18-year-old voting seniors to each have fair opportunity to separately discern Malone's current "insane" level of popularity...
vs. that of Malone's overall level of accountability during his 13 year tenure as principal of Springboro High School.
Since: Sep 12
#27244 Sep 9, 2013
I agree with your post forget the canidates lolook at actions and the stands of people from 2008 and back in years. what has changed in the post vs neg in thoses year vs the past 4 years it becomes transparent where the postive has occured ([past 4years anfd the neg (5 year ago and previous yearsnow look at the history of canidates and they stood -- where do you they will go and where are they standing now? if you can find them?
#27245 Sep 9, 2013
The following examples may help to clarify the difference between the new and old math.
1960: A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of this price. What is his profit?
1970 (Traditional math): A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. What is his profit?
1975 (New Math): A logger exchanges a set L of lumber for a set M of money. The cardinality of set M is 100 and each element is worth $1.
(a) make 100 dots representing the elements of the set M
(b) The set C representing costs of production contains 20 fewer points than set M. Represent the set C as a subset of the set M.
(c) What is the cardinality of the set P of profits?
1990 (Dumbed-down math): A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Underline the number 20.
1997 (Whole Math): By cutting down a forest full of beautiful trees, a logger makes $20.
(a) What do you think of this way of making money?
(b) How did the forest birds and squirrels feel?
(c) Draw a picture of the forest as you'd like it to look.
#27247 Sep 9, 2013
This is the best post in a long time in this thread. Thanks!!
#27248 Sep 10, 2013
Less is more......ever heard if that one?
"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt" -Abe Lincoln
#27249 Sep 10, 2013
For Sure David Bowman has never learned that lesson!
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Anonymous
#27250 Sep 10, 2013
No doubt, Mr. Boroman, your wish as stated during the 2011 Springboro Schools Board of Education election, is just as urgent during our November 2013! Our heros are out there; we just have to make sure we vote them in!
#27251 Sep 10, 2013
Too bad our SHS principal god of knowledge failed to teach his students this great wisdom of Abe Lincoln.
Excuse me, Mr. Malone, but isn't your attempt to gain control of the Board of Education's Children's First Budget agenda in November 2013, just a re-run of your "March 2012 Re-Instate Ron Malone" failed policies keeping our kids left behind?
Those of us watching in the high school auditorium thought our high school principal a fool for leading our students to "speak out" in defiance of board authority, with their taunts "which one of you is lying."
#27252 Sep 10, 2013
Why would our community want to go back to the past? We have sought to change the status quo, and that is difficult, but debate does not equal harm. The politically correct tenet that spirited discussion is harmful stifles new ideas. When a blanket of suppression covers the conversation, the only sure losers will be our community and the children we serve.
Educate Springboro looks to the future–using the knowledge of the past, but with direction toward a goal. While the Board of Education has made missteps in the past year and a half, they were made in a public and transparent fashion. This transparency allowed the community to engage and round out our actions to reflect their wishes and desires. It produced better, more properly vetted ideas and actions, and our schools are better for it. When we work together and talk to each other about the issues, better solutions are developed.
Our leadership is navigating us away from the repeated failures of the past and toward a better future for our schools. We are leading with a goal to provide every Springboro child the opportunity to acquire all the knowledge and intellectual skills they possibly can. It has been our desire to remove all barriers that might restrain them from their innate desire to inquire, explore, and absorb everything they can. Looking to the past, copying failed policies, and fearing change does not remove barriers to improvement, it imposes them.
We’ve built a financial foundation on the principle of fiscal responsibility. We’ll continue to make changes that make sense; for example, eliminating underutilized courses to fill needs in other areas. We won’t propose new classes just to fill an employee’s schedule and avoid a difficult decision. We won’t continue relationships with service providers that don’t provide the best value just because working with them has been past practice. We’ll continue to demand integrity and ethics from everyone we work with from boosters to vendors, from students to administrators.
Common sense, ethics and sound financial decisions guide Educate Springboro. Share this with your friends and neighbors.
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community.
#27253 Sep 10, 2013
Let me ask again without threatening national security (sarcasm)..heard about candidates not to elect...haven't heard about WHO is worth voting for..any suggestions ?...I talking about the school board.
#27254 Sep 10, 2013
And here lies the problem. Everyone wants to gripe and moan about what HAS happended and noone has any answers as to what should happen or how to fix it. It's real easy to say who not to vote for, but to say who to vote for... <crickets>
As I've stated before the only names passer's by will see is Malone, Stuckey and Anderson, so guess who they will vote for. The other "side" the silent "majority" is completely quiet with options or candidates. If they did have someone that could win, they would spend their time building them up but instead just tear the opposition down.
#27255 Sep 10, 2013
"It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that is poor." - Seneca
The bottom line is that we are running to gain control of the board; There needs to be a re-emphasis on the value of the educator.
-school board candidate Ron Malone-
No doubt Mr. Malone is blinded to the value of our current boards's successful children's first budget and the benefits to our students, including funds to textbooks, curriculum, new buses, techology, attention to supports for college and career--STEM,PSEO,AP courses and more.... PLUS
new contract agreements, every teacher, every staff member, every employee, every custodian, and every bus driver of the Springboro Comunity City Schools will be PAID more.... They will be rewarded for their skills and commitment to our schools and our children!
Why would Mr. Malone (or any Springboro Professional Educator) have a "major concern with these decisions being made" doing what's right for our school children's 21st Century Education?
#27256 Sep 10, 2013
MALONE huh..hm. Johantges is just like Malone, another money sucking principal.
#27257 Sep 10, 2013
Excuse Me, but why is the opposition trying to "fix it" when it isn't even broke? And why is celebrating our school district's successful unprecedented achievements of pay increases for all school employees, and a very slight reduction in renewal levy for all Springboro families, "tearing down" the opposition?
Elections come and go, popularity rises and falls, but the principles of fiscal responsibility in our school district budget is here to stay until 2017. No question about it.
#27258 Sep 10, 2013
Exactly. Still waiting for anyone from the opposition to articulate why their position is better than what we have right now. I want to hear Malone, Anderson and Stuckey tell me why the new teacher contract is not good; why the surplus we have is not good; why the reduced levy is bad; why reduced pay to play is bad; why the return of busing is bad. Then, explain to me how you would make it better?
#27259 Sep 11, 2013
...And here lies the problem:
Springboro Schools received three overall “A” grades and two overall “B” grades on the new state report card. Ohio is raising the bar with a system of A–F letter grades so that educators, parents and taxpayers can see how schools are performing and where we can improve. We are using our school performance data to guide improvements and individualized instruction for all students. For example, the savings from our efficiency plans are invested in increased gifted education and reading intervention for 2013-2014.(visit the springboro schools website for our state report card)
Inquiring minds remember when Springboro parents, David Bowman and Lisa Babb, ran a successful opposition campaign, to our reform-minded board member's proposal, to consider hiring an educational group to study the possibilities of unmet needs in our students potential higher achievements in academic education(including the gifted).
This educational study was tabled, in favor of the emotional pleas that our school district not put the Springboro Community Assistance Program for the needy in jeopardy. The majority agreed that God loves panthers; and we cannot allow the cost of this educational study to risk starving our little children and their families who are dependent upon food from the Springboro Community Assistance program.(Isn't one of the board members of the Community asisstance program a local pastor and a member of the Sprinboro City Council?)
Inquiring minds question the validity of this emotionally blackmailing argument of Springboro parents, David Bowman and Lisa Babb, since our school district has only 5% of our families qualifying for the taxpayer-funded FREE? lunch program at Springboro Schools; that, in turn, qualifies Springboro Schools to the federal entitlement program; that forces our school cafeteria business manager to increase the cost of school lunches for every Springboro family that is financially able to feed lunch to their own children.
Inquiring minds question the irony of it all....
Where is the concern of Springboro parents, David Bowman and Lisa Babb, now that our state report card issues a D for Springboro Schools "gifted?"
Why are we receiving requests from the high school principal for every family to donate food to the Springboro Community Assistance program that is now supporting food pantries throughout the state of Ohio? Why are taxpayers funding our professional educators to do the volunteer charity work of the home and the church?
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