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Doug Wiedeman
#27203 Sep 6, 2013
Summary for the Class of 2018

Ohio Achievement Assessment Yearly Test Results

In 4th grade we find

PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 50%

FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 50%

In 5th grade we find

PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 35%

FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 65%

In 6th grade we find

PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 47%

FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 53%

In 7th grade we find

PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 23%

FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 77%

Looking at our test results on the Ohio Achievement Assessment (OAA) test it appears as though we are trending downward.

Complete immersion in the Everyday Mathematics program since kindergarten yields the following results for the Class of 2018. Listed below are percentage of that class who are able to score 75% or better on the OAA math test:

4th grade 50% of the Class of 2018
5th grade 35% of the Class of 2018
6th grade 47% of the Class of 2018
7th grade 23% of the Class of 2018

These trends are in direct conflict with the state reporting, via its report card, that the Class of 2018 is 92% PROFICIENT and above as compared to other students in the state.

Fewer than 1 child our of 4 in the Springboro Junior High 7th grade can get better than 3 out of 4 questions correct on a basic state math test.

The point is that nothing substantiates the glowing report card the state likes to present to the parents of this district.

If the new DIGITS math program is a digital version of Everyday Mathematics, all of our children are in trouble.

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Where Are The Parents
#27204 Sep 6, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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PSEO and A/P classes are open to all children who qualify regardless of class. Provided they are capable of doing the work, comprehending the material, and display the necessary maturity to work on there own, then freshman, sophomore, junior, or senior should not matter.
The school should be promoting to the students the endless opportunities that exist for their benefit as opposed to whatever limited opportunities are afforded by the union membership. The PSEO program, the dual credit program, and the A/P programs have been in place for over twenty years.
Where you see nothing but problems, I see opportunity.
Where you see obstacles, I see opportunity.
Where you look for reasons not to try, I see opportunity.
For 12 years while Mr. Malone was at the helm our curriculum the rigor went down and expectations were lowered.
These are not Doug Wiedeman's conclusions, but the conclusions of the professional educatiors representing the High Schools That Work program. Professional educators that were Mr. Malone's professional peers from the Warren County Educational Center who came to those conclusions year after year.
Following are a couple of examples of what can be attained if only one tries.
We are thoroughly educated in Springboro, as to the weaknesses in our child's education, when we the parents just leave educating our childlren to the highly paid professional educators inside the doors of our excellent schools.

High schools that really work have real educators telling parents and students what they NEED to ensure individual academic achievement; and then working together on a plan for each child to succeed in attaining highest potential;
In Springboro, we have professional educators asking students what level of service do you WANT, and then going out telling parents how much increased taxes it will take to provide the level of service WANTED, not NEEDED.
Only concerned parents can reverse the downward direction in which our kid's grades are at risk of going... if we don't stay on course and keep moving ahead of status quo business as usual.
Even those of us Boro Alumni proficient in math can figure out that three out of five is a majority rule.

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care to
#27205 Sep 6, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Summary for the Class of 2018
Ohio Achievement Assessment Yearly Test Results
In 4th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 50%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 50%
In 5th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 35%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 65%
In 6th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 47%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 53%
In 7th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 23%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 77%
Looking at our test results on the Ohio Achievement Assessment (OAA) test it appears as though we are trending downward.
Complete immersion in the Everyday Mathematics program since kindergarten yields the following results for the Class of 2018. Listed below are percentage of that class who are able to score 75% or better on the OAA math test:
4th grade 50% of the Class of 2018
5th grade 35% of the Class of 2018
6th grade 47% of the Class of 2018
7th grade 23% of the Class of 2018
These trends are in direct conflict with the state reporting, via its report card, that the Class of 2018 is 92% PROFICIENT and above as compared to other students in the state.
Fewer than 1 child our of 4 in the Springboro Junior High 7th grade can get better than 3 out of 4 questions correct on a basic state math test.
The point is that nothing substantiates the glowing report card the state likes to present to the parents of this district.
If the new DIGITS math program is a digital version of Everyday Mathematics, all of our children are in trouble.
Gee shocker. No real response to the comments. Same old statistics posted over and over again. Sounds like fuzzy math to me.

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Doug Wiedeman
#27206 Sep 6, 2013
care to wrote:
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Gee shocker. No real response to the comments. Same old statistics posted over and over again. Sounds like fuzzy math to me.
Those who grow accustomed to failure accept it a normal part of their day.

Others find the situation intolerable and push to move in a direction where actual achievement and accomplishment may thrive.

The choice is yours, exist in darkness or thrive in sunshine.

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Doug Wiedeman
#27207 Sep 6, 2013
care to wrote:
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Gee shocker. No real response to the comments. Same old statistics posted over and over again. Sounds like fuzzy math to me.
And we do have a new year of statistics available from the 2012-2013 school year.

Unfortunately they continue to exhibit the same downwards trends we have been noting for some time.

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Doug Wiedeman
#27208 Sep 6, 2013
To better explain what total immersion within the confines of the Everyday Math program means to our children we first must understand the basic weaknesses of Everyday Math (EM):

1. Reliance on calculators starting as early as kindergarten.

2. Students are not required to learn standard long division due to the availability of calculators. They are required to, either calculate a best estimate or use the partial quotients method for division. The latter algorithm is specifically favored by the authors of EM because it accomodates those students whose mastery of multiplication facts are limited.

Note: Long division is required for algebra (polynomial long division), pre-calculus (finding roots and asymptotes), and calculus integration of rational functions and Laplace transforms.) It is also especially necessary if students are to understand how to express a fraction as a decimal, and also to understand the nature of repeating decimals. Calculators cannot provide the deeper understanding about repeating decimals–and since “deep understanding” of mathematics as opposed to “rote learning” appears to be a goal of the authors of EM, one would hope that presenting students the tools with which to achieve such understanding would also be a goal of this program. It is, alas, not.

3. Memorizing multiplication/division facts are not emphasized. Very few timed tests to assess mastery of these facts are planned and pre-written letters to parents that are sent home with the students urge parents to practice these facts with their kids. Thus, the burden of teaching the tedious but necessary work of math has shifted from the teachers to the parents. For two digit multiplication students are required to use inefficient algorithms including a lattice chart. The lattice method is very time consuming on tests and if calculated incorrectly, provides incorrect answers.

4. Teaching too many means of deriving the same answer is confusing. There are a minimum of 4 different algorithms taught for teach EACH of the following: addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division (minimum of 16 totally different algorithms). This slows the learning process for the students who get algorithms the first time, and decreases the amount of classroom time that can be used for other subjects, or for practice, of the traditional algorithm. There are a number of ways to set up an equation – vertically, horizontally, how numbers are borrowed and tracked, etc.

5. This teaching method is done in more conceptual terms (also called “Fuzzy Math” or TERC) at a group level rather than teaching the traditional mastery of standard algorithms by individual practice. Groups of students are told to get together to discuss how to solve a problem. There is little teacher involvement concerning the use, or requirement, of algorithms in their solutions, creativity is encouraged. Some students end up teaching others, or providing the answers for others who, in the end, do not learn anything due to lack of accountability. Teachers do not need to work as hard.

6.“Spiraling” is the process of teaching children little bits of math from all over the spectrum, even some algebra, at an early age. The theory behind this is that such exposure teaches students “habits of mind” that are felt by the EM authors to be essential to learning algebra because they will already be familiar with the concepts.

This spiraling technique does not allow students to master any one skill at a time because they move on to the next topic without sufficient time to practice the theory. Subjects covered are a mile wide and an inch deep and just scratch the surface of each theory.

Most early age students are not ready for algebraic thinking and this is not a constructive use of classroom time. It has been know to create confusion and students begin to think they are not intelligent, end up disliking math, and the spiral is downward from there.

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Bully Proof Your Child
#27209 Sep 6, 2013
On March 10,2011, President Barack Obama led a White House conference on a crisis plaguing America: the crisis of bullying.

In the middle of the greatest economic collapse since the Great Depression, with American soldiers involved in two wars overseas, with Iran on the brink of nuclear wepaons development, the White House was focused, laserlike, on kids getting thrown into lockers.

There had been no measurable uptick in school bullying across America. In fact, by all available statistics, bullying is down across the board, with young Ameiricans demonstrating particular tolerance for those of different backgrounds. All Americans, virtually without exception, hate bullies. But President Obama felt the necessity to call leaders across America together to decry bullying. "Bullying isn't a problem that makes headlines every day," the president said, his sonorous baritone trembling with emotion. "But every day it touches the lives of young people all across this country...And that's why we're here today."

.....The strategy here was simple. Obama and his friends in the media and on the organized left picked the one thing all Americans can agree on: bullying. They strategically placed President Obama at the head of the anti-bullying cause. Then came the brilliant gambit; they appropriated bullying to apply only to anything remotely conservative.

The Tea Party? a bunch of bullies.
Religious people? Bullies
Global warming unbelievers, defense hawks, venture capitalists, fans of voter identification or traditional marriage, opponents of affirmative action, right to work advocates, supporters of Israel, haters of Glee?...... Bullies.

Liberals claim that they are all about protecting victim classes from bullies. Conservatives oppose liberals. Therefore, by definition, conservatives must be bullies. And Bullies must be stopped.

The Obama embrace of the anti-bullying cause, and the subsequent linguistic trick of conflating anti-bullying with anti-conservatism, is the single best bully tactic in the history of American politics. The liberal anti-bullying campaign justifies every leftist thug tactic they've ever
embraced.

...from the Introduction to the book written by National Bestselling Author Ben Shapiro --
Bullies How the Left's Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences America

Attention Parents -- Don't Wait for this book to appear on your high school student's required reading list-- Get to the book store and make it required reading for your family; teach your own children HOW to protect themselves from those liberal bullies that have occupied our children's classroom as teachers of unionism.

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Bully Proof Your Child
#27210 Sep 6, 2013
Attention Parents - Only YOU can bully-proof your child with self respect and pride in individual achievement which is the only response to societies institutional bullies, anti-patriotic bullies, race bullie, class bullies, sex bullies, green bullies, secular bullies. Nurture your child, encouraging self-discipline and self-respect, and reminders of Don't leave your virtues at home when you head off to school. Remember, a union teacher in every classroom just can't do it all!

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For Sure
#27211 Sep 6, 2013
David Bowman and his Springboro United for Responsible Education.... all about Bullying the board until the board gave the teachers the RESPECT they deserve...? What irresponsibile role models for our students is that?

Ron Malone and his kids for protesting
reinstate Ron Malone in March 2012 community wide bullying of Springboro citizens, board members, and Ron's SHS students, whose parents were of conservative political persuasion. How un-professional is that, Mr. Malone? Isn't it true that school board candidate, Dr. Ron Malone, has prescribed "Bullying" as the bottom line of insane popularity for our Boro Alumni? Where's the Pride in that poor leadership?

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No Turning Back
#27212 Sep 7, 2013
In the direction of sustainability

DISTRICT TO ASK FOR LOWER TAX MILLAGE IN NOVEMBER

In the football stands on Friday nights, we can see a basic truth: our schools and community are inextricably tied. Public schools serve the community. And the community supports public schools. Today we stand in an almost unheard of place: we are financially prepared to give something back to the taxpayer–to give back to our community by reducing the tax burden. The renewal levy on the ballot in November will be set at a lower millage rate to reduce taxes generated by that levy by nearly 15 percent (a reduction of \$1,353,800 per year). There is an assumption that if we are cutting the taxes; we must be cutting back in our schools. This is simply false.

The following needs are in the current budget through 2017:

high school busing restored
over \$2 million in textbooks and curriculum adoption
over \$2.1 million for new buses
over \$3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
over \$1.5 million in technology (100 percent WiFi, 1,000 computers, 350 teacher laptops)
over \$7.5 million for our staff in raises and benefit changes
These needs are met in the five-year forecast even with the lower renewal levy.

How is this possible?

Efficiency plans, reallocating resources, and receiving increased revenue all make the lower renewal levy possible.
Since 2012-2013, the district has received \$3.5 million per year due to tax revenue from the Rocky's Express natural gas pipeline.(A second gas pipeline is being installed through the school district territory; however, the district’s current forecast assumptions DO NOT include projections of any funds it is likely to bring to the district.)
We recently learned that our district will receive 6.5% more in 2013-2014 than in the previous year from the State of Ohio (approximately \$828,000) as well as 10.5% more in 2014-2015 (approximately \$1.2 million).
The May 2013 five-year budget forecast reflected a surplus of \$7.55 million in 2017.
With consideration of additional state revenue and after the approval of contracts with teachers, classified and exempt staff, budget projections still reflect a surplus of \$7.2 million in 2017 with the current millage.
When the proposed decreased renewal levy is applied to budget projections, there is a still a surplus of approximately \$3.9 million.
With every step, we are proving that this district--with its record of excellence--is sustainable with an even lower tax burden. We are meeting and exceeding state mandates as well as local expectations. We are building a technology backbone, investing in computers, curriculum, buses and buildings. Most important, we are being honest about what is needed through 2017. This is reform at the local level, and this is working together toward sustainability.

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No Turning Back
#27213 Sep 7, 2013
The 2013 Board of Education campaign is taking shape in Springboro, and there is a clear theme emerging from three of the candidates. The opposition’s run for school board seems to be fueled by fear. It is dark and angry — promising to bring calm to a storm.
The problem with their platform is that there is no storm.

Common sense, ethics and sound financial decisions guide Educate Springboro. Share this with your friends and neighbors.
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community.

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Lerxst
#27214 Sep 7, 2013
For Sure wrote:
David Bowman and his Springboro United for Responsible Education.... all about Bullying the board until the board gave the teachers the RESPECT they deserve...? What irresponsibile role models for our students is that?
Ron Malone and his kids for protesting
reinstate Ron Malone in March 2012 community wide bullying of Springboro citizens, board members, and Ron's SHS students, whose parents were of conservative political persuasion. How un-professional is that, Mr. Malone? Isn't it true that school board candidate, Dr. Ron Malone, has prescribed "Bullying" as the bottom line of insane popularity for our Boro Alumni? Where's the Pride in that poor leadership?
Go read Bowman's latest blog post located here: http://www.davidebowman.com/how-our-founding-...

What's interesting to note about his posts is that all he does is tell us why we should NOT vvote for the current board and completely avoids telling us why we SHOULD vote for Malone, Stuckey and Anderson. Not even the web site for those three has any information on the issues and/or their stances. Are we to vote for them based on popularity? Seems that is what they are relying on. That and the usual scorched earth, sky is falling scare tactics that we have been witness to in the last few years.

Can someone articulate their stances? If they want my vote it would be nice to know exactly what they intend to do. Simply stating "we are for the children" is not sufficient.

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BORO ALUMNI
#27215 Sep 7, 2013
Your Hatred Is Showing wrote:
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Doug didn't say anything about this. Who are you debating, yourself?
Apparently you didn't read the entire post. My response was to "Get Smart". DOH!!

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Big Questions
#27216 Sep 7, 2013
BORO ALUMNI wrote:
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Apparently you didn't read the entire post. My response was to "Get Smart". DOH!!
But why this evil indoctrination of our students and young people in Malone's egotistical "vote for revenge" against Springboro taxpayers, who have so generously INVESTED our hard earned money into his double dipping pockets all these years?

Why should we not expect more educational expertise from our school board candidates than "voting for revenge to re-instate Ron Malone?"

Excellence is not an act, but a habit.- Aristotle

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Celebrate Our Success
#27217 Sep 7, 2013
Springboro Schools perform well. There's no doubt about it. Our schools repeatedly achieve the state's highest ratings. Our students score in the classroom, in music and athletics, and many give back to our community. But as schools across the country prepare for the new Common Core curriculum ( www.corestandards.org ) and we adopt new teacher and principal evaluation systems, new testing, standards and technology, we will not rest on our past success. Instead, we will look ahead to tomorrow's challenges. We will expect more! NO TURNING BACK...

The 2013 Board of Education campaign is taking shape in Springboro, and there is a clear theme emerging from three of the candidates. The opposition’s run for school board seems to be fueled by fear. It is dark and angry — promising to bring calm to a storm.
The problem with their platform is that there is no storm.

Common sense, ethics and sound financial decisions guide Educate Springboro. Share this with your friends and neighbors.
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community.

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partisan
#27218 Sep 7, 2013
is there ANYONE worth voting for on the ballot for school board ???? I will not vote for Malone, Stuckey, Anderson...and Babb did me a favor by dropping out.

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Non Partisan Voter
#27219 Sep 7, 2013
partisan wrote:
is there ANYONE worth voting for on the ballot for school board ???? I will not vote for Malone, Stuckey, Anderson...and Babb did me a favor by dropping out.
Most people I live around and work with are not really thinking at this time about the November elections. The excitement of the new school year and new football season upon us has taken center stage; and now our new high school principal has taken up the critical issue of the high school kids dress code...omg... do our professional educators have nothing better to do than gather teachers and parents in yet another another meeting to discuss changing the dress code rules -- why not just issue a black tee and a pair of jeans so that all individuality is removed and our schools can become non-gender unionisms, removing the words he and she from our kid's curriculum, and refusing to allow our children the self-pride of learning cursive writing; because after all, every signature is unique; and we do want to make sure in our government schools of unionism that every child is recognized only as "collective" community.

Just as we now have "collective" union school board candidates, Ron Malone, David Stuckey, and Charles Anderson bound together as a threesome, because it takes three union bullies to challenge ONE reform-minded BOE president! That's just so silly!
I definitely will not be following the "flock" of union school board candidates in November! I will be looking for a leader who soars above the flock; running for school board election solely on individual Principles of doing what's right for our school children and community tax payers; regardless of name recognition and popularity.

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#27220 Sep 7, 2013
Non Partisan Voter wrote:
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Most people I live around and work with are not really thinking at this time about the November elections. The excitement of the new school year and new football season upon us has taken center stage; and now our new high school principal has taken up the critical issue of the high school kids dress code...omg... do our professional educators have nothing better to do than gather teachers and parents in yet another another meeting to discuss changing the dress code rules -- why not just issue a black tee and a pair of jeans so that all individuality is removed and our schools can become non-gender unionisms, removing the words he and she from our kid's curriculum, and refusing to allow our children the self-pride of learning cursive writing; because after all, every signature is unique; and we do want to make sure in our government schools of unionism that every child is recognized only as "collective" community.
Just as we now have "collective" union school board candidates, Ron Malone, David Stuckey, and Charles Anderson bound together as a threesome, because it takes three union bullies to challenge ONE reform-minded BOE president! That's just so silly!
I definitely will not be following the "flock" of union school board candidates in November! I will be looking for a leader who soars above the flock; running for school board election solely on individual Principles of doing what's right for our school children and community tax payers; regardless of name recognition and popularity.
you haven't answered my question...:(

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Non Partisan Voter
#27221 Sep 7, 2013
Preparing our students to be digital learners as we dedicate \$1.1 million to bring our infrastructure up to date, go wireless in every classroom, and replace 1,100 of the district's aging computers. Our classrooms will be equipped for the new online state tests in 2014. Computers will not be a lonely station in the corner of the classroom. With this inverstment, technology will be integrated into instruction, problem-solving and learning.....

Springboro Schools Expect More, Achieve More....

There is no place in the busy schedule of our highly paid professional educators work duties for "problem-solving" for their students what to wear to school! How silly that the school puts so much emphasis on teaching "critical thinking skills" and then do not allow high school students to exercise their own creativity in thinking about what to wear!

lol........High School principal says.....
I have received several emails regarding dress code and yoga pants. There is a proper way to wear yoga pants and that is to have a pair of appropriate length shorts or an appropriate length skirt over top the pants. Long sweaters covering a girl’s posterior just as tightly as the yoga pants are still inappropriate. Girls wearing skirts and shorts are responsible for ensuring that the length of the skirt or shorts is three inches below the fingertips when the girl’s arms are at her sides.

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Non Partisan Voter
#27222 Sep 7, 2013
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you haven't answered my question...:(
And why should I? As an independent thinker, never collectively, I treasure the privilege of my RIGHT to vote, not my REQUIREMENT.

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