Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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The bottom line is that the voter is going to have to wade through all the bull and figure out which side they believe. At this point, as far as the Malone/Babb/Stuckey contingent is concerned, all I have heard is they are running and they are "for the children." Well, aren't we all "for the children?" That tells me nothing. Tell me why I should vote for them. What will they do that the current board has not that is in the best interest of the children. I hope the answer is not to simply throw more money at what ever perceived problem exists. We've been there and done that.

As for the current board they have a record. Not perfect but, on balance from where I sit, it looks pretty good compared to when they took the reins. Give me a reason to vote for Malone/Babb/Stuckey, not a reason to vote against the current board.

As you decide I would encourage all of you to not rely on the noisy minority of parents who have resorted to personal attacks on the current board; outright misrepresentation about what the board has/is doing; and worse, are completely clueless about the financial state of the current school system. In the past they told us to pass levy after levy for fear that doom, gloom, chaos and utter panic would set upon us. Well, still waiting for it. They have their side of the story and I respect their desire to do what they think is the right thing. I simply question their motives and their knowledge of the current state of financial affairs and what it takes to do better.

Doing the research to make informed decisions requires work, but also comes with some risk. Look at Doug Weideman's posts. He clearly comes to the table prepared with numbers. What does he get in return? Crackpots who feels the need to publish his address and plane registrations. This tells me some people are not interest in the facts, so there will be no changing their minds whatsoever. The problem with them is they negate the informed persons vote.

If you don't like the current board…fine. At least make an informed decision…not one based on pure emotion. The kids of this community deserve as much.
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All About Money wrote:
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Education in Springboro Schools is all about money and power and who gets to control both. A school house divided cannot provide wholeness for our children's future.
We have a power struggle going on between our children first board members and Malone's union first members; The decisions made during these employment contract negotiations will support our financial victory for our children's first budget; or reverse our school district's money to the control of Malone's "business as usual" forced unionism/indoctrination for
our children's classroom education.
Gone are the days in our school district when Springboro voters were supposed to "rubber stamp" whomever the Springboro Education Association chose to fund and exploit for Union Solidarity! School board election is not "non-partisan" and we must have a balance of candidates running for those three open positions.
Currently on the Board of Elections website, I know of only
ONE parent who has pulled petitions who is FIT to serve; but there is only one name that I've never heard before -- Jamie Belanger pulled petitions on July 19, 2013, the same day that petitions were pulled by Lisa Jo Babb.

WHO IS JAMIE BELANGER?

Inquiring minds need to know.
Stay Focused

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The OEA members/union activists are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
There is NO reasoning with the Springobro Education Association members, the SURE group, nor the Neighbors for Springboro Schools. They are angry, hostile, mean-spirited, bitter, and totally without gratitude and appreciation of the simple joys of home, family, faith, and love; and care only for the collective forced investment of other's labor, which the SEA feels their dollar "VALUE" is greater than all.
As we have seen recently when the contract settlement gave the SEA all they said they wanted from taxpayers; still they greedily protested "give us more; we don't want increased pay; we just want it all and we demand the board to PAY it all to the SEA, because Ron Malone says so..."There needs to be a re-emphasis on the VALUE of the educator."
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Lerxst- wrote:
The bottom line is that the voter is going to have to wade through all the bull and figure out which side they believe. At this point, as far as the Malone/Babb/Stuckey contingent is concerned, all I have heard is they are running and they are "for the children." Well, aren't we all "for the children?" That tells me nothing. Tell me why I should vote for them. What will they do that the current board has not that is in the best interest of the children. I hope the answer is not to simply throw more money at what ever perceived problem exists. We've been there and done that.
As for the current board they have a record. Not perfect but, on balance from where I sit, it looks pretty good compared to when they took the reins. Give me a reason to vote for Malone/Babb/Stuckey, not a reason to vote against the current board.
As you decide I would encourage all of you to not rely on the noisy minority of parents who have resorted to personal attacks on the current board; outright misrepresentation about what the board has/is doing; and worse, are completely clueless about the financial state of the current school system. In the past they told us to pass levy after levy for fear that doom, gloom, chaos and utter panic would set upon us. Well, still waiting for it. They have their side of the story and I respect their desire to do what they think is the right thing. I simply question their motives and their knowledge of the current state of financial affairs and what it takes to do better.
Doing the research to make informed decisions requires work, but also comes with some risk. Look at Doug Weideman's posts. He clearly comes to the table prepared with numbers. What does he get in return? Crackpots who feels the need to publish his address and plane registrations. This tells me some people are not interest in the facts, so there will be no changing their minds whatsoever. The problem with them is they negate the informed persons vote.
If you don't like the current board…fine. At least make an informed decision…not one based on pure emotion. The kids of this community deserve as much.
The "crackpots" attack me because they have no defense for the indefensible.

Aside from posting PROFICIENT is not FAILURE, they always forget to explain to us why a child getting only 42% correct on a Ohio Graduation Test is good enough.

PROFICIENT does equate to FAILURE.

Next time someone tells you it does not, ask them what they would do if their child had absorbed less than 33% of the math presented by the 8th grade?

32% was the bottom of the PROFICIENT scale in 8th grade math on the Ohio Achievement Assessment test.

Let them ignore the truth, it won't stop me from broadcasting the message.

As parents review their child's ACT results, some may be wondering why their child did not score higher than they did given the grades they received throughout their education.

The reality is the tests reflect what that student learned or did not learn.

PROFICIENT equals FAILURE and those who promote otherwise compromise your child's future.
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Stand Up For Kids wrote:
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Gone are the days in our school district when Springboro voters were supposed to "rubber stamp" whomever the Springboro Education Association chose to fund and exploit for Union Solidarity! School board election is not "non-partisan" and we must have a balance of candidates running for those three open positions.
Currently on the Board of Elections website, I know of only
ONE parent who has pulled petitions who is FIT to serve; but there is only one name that I've never heard before -- Jamie Belanger pulled petitions on July 19, 2013, the same day that petitions were pulled by Lisa Jo Babb.
WHO IS JAMIE BELANGER?
Inquiring minds need to know.
He's the next common sense member of our community to restore decency to our board of education..
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Great Choice wrote:
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He's the next common sense member of our community to restore decency to our board of education..
Does he support PROFICIENT as the gold standard of education?

PROFICIENT equals FAILURE
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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Does he support PROFICIENT as the gold standard of education?
PROFICIENT equals FAILURE
Certainly in the coming weeks Mr. Belanger has plenty of opportunity to address this, as well as many other district issues at the boardroom speaker's podium.
Hold On

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Great Choice wrote:
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He's the next common sense member of our community to restore decency to our board of education..
Hold on there, neighbor! Each one of us has "one voice, one vote" and "our community as a whole" will decide for ourselves If Jamie Ballanger is another one, along with Malone-Stuckey-Babb, who is trying to gain control of our "uncommonly decent" Children's First Budget BOE majority, then, obviously, Jamie Ballanger seeks hostile takeover of our "Board of Education" and that is a continued violation of common decency; that has been launched against Springboro Parent Kelly Kohls by the former high school principal, Ron Malone and the Springboro Education Association, since Kelly Kohls' November 2009 highly popular election, as our FIRST school board representative elected by the people to RESTORE
COMMON DECENCY to our 4-1 BOE majority of pro-union, OSBA trained elected officials, who never had the "common decency" to represent the Springboro taxpayers, but just blindly rubberstamped everything the school superintendent told them that Mr. Maney of the SEA wanted -- and all Mr. Maney wants is power and control over it ALL. Where is the common decency in that uncommon indecent behavior of the SEA warring against Springboro taxpayers to "re-instate Ron Malone's insanely popular agenda of Tax and Spend Unionism? There is no "restoring common decency in the SEA school
board candidates' agenda; just another hostile campaign of Vote for Revenge against Springboro taxpayers, who generously support
these Union employees, even though they serve our schools and community in a most non-professional way.
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Certainly in the coming weeks Mr. Belanger has plenty of opportunity to address this, as well as many other district issues at the boardroom speaker's podium.
Certainly in the past few months, the violation of common decency has been grandstanded "at the boardroom speaker's podium" and for SURE this hostile takeover of a school board campaign will not be given center stage in our public school board business meetings.
There are some who attend business meeting to stay informed on what the elected officials are doing to educate our children, with our tax dollars, and we are tired of listening to all this psychological warfare being performed by the Maney-Acts trying to get local, state, and national attention on this grossly embarrassing and non-professional behavior of our union scumbags employed by Springboro taxpayers to teach in our children's classrooms.
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How low can the hardly excellent with distinction go -- with no higher inspiration and motivation than "re-instating the insanely popular Ron Malone" to business as usual, with NFSS monster Mom Lisa Babb on his left, and forced unionism false god of social studies, Dave Stuckey, on his right? Oops! Dave can't be on Ron's RIGHT -- there is no RIGHT side for our children first inside the SEA classrooms of Malone/Stuckey/Babb...just more OEA indoctrination of our children's minds and spirits to fight, fight, fight for social justice for our wonderful unionized teachers, and the levies for pay increases will take care of themselves! But Who Will Take Care of Our Children First? Who will be on the side of doing what's right for our school children and community, even when doing what's right is "insanely unpopular?"
Who will stand up for our kids on November 5, 2013?
Stay Alert Voters!

It does appear that Jamie Belanger has come out of the darkness inside the union tent, and joined the Malone/Stuckey/Babb United Circle of Greed, trying to gain control of board president, Kelly Kohls, and throw her "fiscal responsibility" good service to our schools and community out of elected office! But where is the Responsible Education for our children's future in this united hostility of SEA activist, Ron Malone, Dave Stuckey, Lisa Babb and Jamie Belanger, against our Children First, Springboro families, and taxpaying homeowners?
Circle of Greed

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US history wrote:
A friend told me required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on USHistory by noted socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Meinert Kampf also on this reading list for this summer's enjoyment?
Is this the "platform" of common decency that Belanger, Malone,Stuckey,Babb think needs to be restored to the elected majority of the Springboro Board of Education? In what way does this narrow-minded tunnel vision of the Springboro Schools Social Studies Department reflect the diversity of the entire community of taxpaying homeowners who vote in this school district. The Springboro Schools Board of Education must serve both the school community and the community as a whole, in the best interest of ALL the people; NOT just the "collective best interest of the SEA people who are employed by ALL the people.
Our school board president, Kelly Kohls, has done an excellent job in bringing the BOE unanimous vote of contract with increased pay for the SEA and slight reduction in renewal taxes for Springboro families to pay! It's a win-win for all. So why do we have our SEA union employees huffing and puffing hostility and greed trying to blow our children's excellent school house down? Where's the value to the Taxpayer to this type of Non-professional irresponsible education?
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The Bottom Line wrote:
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Bad Babb for Boro! How low can she go?... H E double hockey sticks hath NO fury like a Lisa Babb scorned at the polls!
Some vote for me, more vote 'gainst me
I'll run anyway
If you don't like thoughtless spending
Then, just move away

You can beg and you can plead
But I can't see the light......(that's right!)
I need your votes to 'feed the pig'
'though your pocket's tight ('cause we are...)

Mo-ving toward a lib-er-al board
And I am your lib-er-al girl
You know that we are mo-ving toward a lib-er-al board
And I am your lib-er-al girl
Stay Alert Voters

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Remember Us wrote:
Remember how the 3 of you that post over and over under a multitude of names? Guess what? We are the young people you made fun of as being children for supporting Dr. Malone. Well hmmm,we are all grown up now and eligible to vote. Here we come, Kelly. All those months ago...who is laughing now?
Here is an example of the "return on our investment" in the young people's future. All of that money we paid in taxes for a quality education that Dr. Malone never delivered for our children's future -- What do Springboro taxpayers get in return for our money-- young people seeking revenge -- rubber stamped by Dr. Malone with: No Class Bully - Product of Springboro Education Association Forced Unionism. Where's the pride in that insanely popular leadership?
Vipers and Hypocrites

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Circle of Greed wrote:
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Stay Alert Voters!
It does appear that Jamie Belanger has come out of the darkness inside the union tent, and joined the Malone/Stuckey/Babb United Circle of Greed, trying to gain control of board president, Kelly Kohls, and throw her "fiscal responsibility" good service to our schools and community out of elected office! But where is the Responsible Education for our children's future in this united hostility of SEA activist, Ron Malone, Dave Stuckey, Lisa Babb and Jamie Belanger, against our Children First, Springboro families, and taxpaying homeowners?
Those non-professional public schools educators of Unionism in our Springboro school district classrooms, Ron Malone and Dave Stuckey, now boast proudly to Springboro families that they are "seeking control of Springboro board." It appears that Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey have planted in the minds of our Boro Alumni the seeds of hatred and revenge against Springboro parent, Kelly Kohls (whose children are students in our Springboro Schools, and who serves her school and community as BOE president).
Mrs. Kohls is only one Springboro parent who has been targeted by Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey as the SEA vows to take out of elected office all three of our Children's First Budget reform minded board representatives. Disregarding our school district's celebration of success, Mr. Malone still spreads lies and false accusations againsts the "Three" Children's First Budget reform minded board representatives vowing to Vote for Revenge against "fiscal responsibility" and re-instate the SEA BOE majority in November, reversing our success to the greed and lust of the SEA for power and control over our children's minds in the classroom.

In one local newspaper report, this group of alumni suppporting the Malone/Stuckey/Babb/ hatred and vote for revenge against Springboro parent, Kelly Kohls, stated: The board had turned the district into "an international laughingstock...." This is just another lie spread by these SEA maney-acts in their continuing efforts of hostile takeover of our local school government.
As a concerned Springboro taxpaying homeowner, I see it differently. It is this same "group of union activists" who are promoting Vote for Revenge that are the ones running to the newspapers and the TV News cameras, who are really the embarrassment and laughingstock of the non-professional educators who have it all in Springboro, except COMMON DECENCY toward their neighbors. Common Decency is a much needed emphasis in our Springboro Education Association's behavoir, but just like self- respect, it can't be purchased with more of our school tax dollars.
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US history wrote:
A friend told me required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on USHistory by noted socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Meinert Kampf also on this reading list for this summer's enjoyment?
lol...what hypocrites are those SURE parents who stand up in public meeting pretending to protect our kids from being "exposed" to the indecency of a symbolic flag (swirled around by another Springboro Parent trying to get his 5 minutes of shock and awe fame in front of the TV cameras); BUT this same parent isn't offended at all by our students being forced to read the "indecency of Howard Zinn." even more, lol and omg....
this SURE parent who pulled in one of the board members to join her in "shaming and blaming" another Springboro parent, who wasn't even present at the meeting, was the same SURE parent who was told by the board president that she would have to CEASE her military mom potty mouth language in front of our children and the TV cameras, or else our board meetings would be thrown off the air! lol... what hypocrites for SURE! Where's the Responsible Education in that united effort to embarrass and make a laughing stock of the indoctrinated influence of the non-professional educators of the Springboro Education Association.
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Parents and teachers have been complaining about malone's inefficiencies on the job for many years. But malone just had some kind of "cult-like" influence as education god for the union masters. malone was very possessive of the students, encouraged their praise and worship which elevated himself as being overwhelmed at what the students were doing for him; but his focus should have been on what educators can do for the student to elevate higher individual achievement.
It isn't unusual for a professional to become so "beloved" of himself in his job, that he forgets it is not "himself" for whom he works. Now that Malone is happily and successfully retired, change in SHS leadership has come and our school districts new philosophy of benefits to our students first.
Developing Character is Priority in the Education of Our Children!Don't you agree that our Board of Education school board candidates should offer more for our Children First, than just their reputation in the community as "insanely popular?"

"If you will think about what you ought to do for other people, your character will take care of itself. Character is a by-product, and any man who devotes himself to its cultivation in his own case will become a selfish prig." -Woodrow Wilson -
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Great Choice wrote:
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He's the next common sense member of our community to restore decency to our board of education..
Great Choice? get real ....don't you mean the bottom of
the barrel is our only "choice" in this too bad for Boro Babb/Malone/Stuckey/Belanger reversal of our success to
status quo business as usual in the Baker/Dettwiller/Lolli/Long bad old days of unionism rule.
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The Scoffer wrote:
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Great Choice? get real ....don't you mean the bottom of
the barrel is our only "choice" in this too bad for Boro Babb/Malone/Stuckey/Belanger reversal of our success to
status quo business as usual in the Baker/Dettwiller/Lolli/Long bad old days of unionism rule.
who said crap don't float....look at Malone/babb/stuckey...a lot of it appears to be surfacing lately.
lol in boro

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who said crap don't float....look at Malone/babb/stuckey...a lot of it appears to be surfacing lately.
...not sure who said that, but sounds like that educated ex-military potty mouth mom for SURE.
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lol in boro wrote:
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...not sure who said that, but sounds like that educated ex-military potty mouth mom for SURE.
wrong again, buffalo breathe...like the rest of you school levy Nazis.

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