Smoking-violation fines go unpaid

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The Ohio Department of Health and the attorney general's office have collected only one-third of the $2.2 million in fines levied for facilities that have violated the state's smoking ban since enforcement began four years ago, according to state data.
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What a bunch of BS, it has nothing to do with compliance, it has to do w/people giving up because the ban is not being enforced.! Just get rid of the ban & let the businesses that allow smoking advertise such as in Indy. If they put up signs that say "We are a smoking establishment" then non-smokers have the option to not give them business.... What's the problem with that?
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What they didn't mention was whether or not the "Fines" that were not paid were being challenged in court which would allow non payment till resolved.
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Why do people come to such conclusions? If you are thinking all the smoke that cigarette releases goes in your throat and does not affect others then you are mistaken, because people who are along with you exposed to smoke then it may lead to lung cancer, cardiovascular disease, asthma and also other chronic problems.
It is approximated that passive smoke that kills at least 49,000 nonsmokers each year. Approximately there are 46,000 men and women who die from cardiovascular disease, and there are about 3,000 people who suffer from lung cancer.

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Smoking is banned is countries but why people are still smoking?I don't think if a person will be charged with a huge fine he will stop to smoke,by charging fine the government is only increasing its fund .

I think instead of charging mere fines on smoking the government should try to create awareness among the people and make them understand about the bad effects of smoking and if this doesn't work it could take some strong actions against the smokers.And not only this the companies that are manufacturing these products and the retail outlets those are selling it should be banned first.

Because until and unless we understand the seriousness and tragic end of smoking no one could force us to quit .
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Tobacco Taxes paid to Ohio

In Millions of dollars.
FY 2007 -$986.3
FY 2008 -$953.1
FY 2009 -$924.8
FY 2010 -$886.9

As you can see as they make it more difficult for smokers and those that decide to quit, the revenues keep going down.

From 2007 to 2010 a 100 million dollar decrease.

Tax projection

FY 2010 (actual)-$886.9
FY 2011 -$796.4
FY 2012 -$746.2
FY 2013 -$699.1

A total reduction of 287 million lost revenue dollars.

There are many many more beer drinkers and the havoc they heap on society is well documented.

That 886 million has to come from somewhere, let's ban smoking and pick up the tab.

Taxes from beer in Ohio

FY 2007 -$48.1
FY 2008 -$49.3
FY 2009 -$46.7
FY 2010 -$48.1

Somebody is not paying their fair share. Let's raise it 10 times higher.

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Conservative wrote:
Tobacco Taxes paid to Ohio
In Millions of dollars.
FY 2007 -$986.3
FY 2008 -$953.1
FY 2009 -$924.8
FY 2010 -$886.9
As you can see as they make it more difficult for smokers and those that decide to quit, the revenues keep going down.
From 2007 to 2010 a 100 million dollar decrease.
Tax projection
FY 2010 (actual)-$886.9
FY 2011 -$796.4
FY 2012 -$746.2
FY 2013 -$699.1
A total reduction of 287 million lost revenue dollars.
There are many many more beer drinkers and the havoc they heap on society is well documented.
That 886 million has to come from somewhere, let's ban smoking and pick up the tab.
Taxes from beer in Ohio
FY 2007 -$48.1
FY 2008 -$49.3
FY 2009 -$46.7
FY 2010 -$48.1
Somebody is not paying their fair share. Let's raise it 10 times higher.
Tobacco taxes is the 3rd (maybe 2nd by now) highest source for the general fund that pays for others health schools and essential services.

Perhaps its time anti smokers pay their fair share like gas taxes and I did notice all those tax increases on the past ballot.

hmmmmm

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Lincoln Brown wrote:
it could take some strong actions against the smokers
What would you suggest o great ruler?

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Lincoln Brown wrote:
I think instead of charging mere fines on smoking the government should try to create awareness among the people and make them understand about the bad effects of smoking
Brainwashing? Heck the lobbyist who got 99 + million dollars from big pharmas foundation to get smoking bans while big pharma profits from its nicotine patches and flavored nicotine gum has already brainwashed the public. Brilliant marketing scam

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Busting the myths of smok wrote:
Why do people come to such conclusions? If you are thinking all the smoke that cigarette releases goes in your throat and does not affect others then you are mistaken, because people who are along with you exposed to smoke then it may lead to lung cancer, cardiovascular disease, asthma and also other chronic problems.
It is approximated that passive smoke that kills at least 49,000 nonsmokers each year. Approximately there are 46,000 men and women who die from cardiovascular disease, and there are about 3,000 people who suffer from lung cancer.
I have been trying to find out who all those dead people are along with proof..you know its a flake when they mention words like premature death and lives saved..people who fall for that are gullible
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I've posted this before.

Go a doctor you have never been to before. While you're filling that little medical history form put down you smoke a pack a day for last 20 years even though you never smoked.

When the doctor asks what's the problem tell him you're having trouble breathing for last 2 months and seems to be getting worse.

He'll look at your form and note you put down you smoke and I'll bet anything that the first thing he says is, " You know what the problem is, you smoke". This is without any tests that may or may not confirm that was indeed the cause.

Many illnesses have the same or similar symptoms.

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I've posted this before.
Go a doctor you have never been to before. While you're filling that little medical history form put down you smoke a pack a day for last 20 years even though you never smoked.
When the doctor asks what's the problem tell him you're having trouble breathing for last 2 months and seems to be getting worse.
He'll look at your form and note you put down you smoke and I'll bet anything that the first thing he says is, " You know what the problem is, you smoke". This is without any tests that may or may not confirm that was indeed the cause.
Many illnesses have the same or similar symptoms.
Histoplasmosis (sp) which can be deadly if the immune system is compromises, otherwise just sinus, bronchitis, pneumonia etc

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even lung cancer..forgot that one. ACS & scientists knew in the 50's that infection causes lung cancer

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Histoplas also causes blindness, just think of all the smoking clain=ms and remember the histo word..its a fungal lung infection
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Busting the myths of smok wrote:
Why do people come to such conclusions? If you are thinking all the smoke that cigarette releases goes in your throat and does not affect others then you are mistaken, because people who are along with you exposed to smoke then it may lead to lung cancer, cardiovascular disease, asthma and also other chronic problems.
It is approximated that passive smoke that kills at least 49,000 nonsmokers each year. Approximately there are 46,000 men and women who die from cardiovascular disease, and there are about 3,000 people who suffer from lung cancer.
Yes its true and medical science has also proved that both smokers and passive smokers suffers from the bad consequences of smoking.So smoking should completely be prohibited.
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"Bojangles doesn't offer food or serve anyone under 21, so owner Jo Risk sees the smoking ban as a threat to the survival of the family-owned business."

Oh, what superb logic!
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Conservative wrote:
I've posted this before.
Go a doctor you have never been to before. While you're filling that little medical history form put down you smoke a pack a day for last 20 years even though you never smoked.
When the doctor asks what's the problem tell him you're having trouble breathing for last 2 months and seems to be getting worse.
He'll look at your form and note you put down you smoke and I'll bet anything that the first thing he says is, " You know what the problem is, you smoke". This is without any tests that may or may not confirm that was indeed the cause.
Many illnesses have the same or similar symptoms.
Oh, yes. Fill a doctor full of lies, all aimed at supporting a single conclusion, and see if your LIES can get him to suggest that conclusion.

Just the sort of thing someone who has never smoked is likely to do. Sure.

As if doctors were not observant enough to see the lack of yellowing on the teeth you're suggesting we lie through!
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What a bunch of BS, it has nothing to do with compliance, it has to do w/people giving up because the ban is not being enforced.! Just get rid of the ban & let the businesses that allow smoking advertise such as in Indy. If they put up signs that say "We are a smoking establishment" then non-smokers have the option to not give them business.... What's the problem with that?
Oh, yes, and let's have all other establishments provide special entrances with airlocks where smokers must shower and launder their clothing on the way in--all paid for by an increase in the tax on cigarettes, including compensation to the owners for loss of useful space--to keep the air in the establishments up to standards. Of course, no one should be permitted to smoke on the sidewalk within 30 feet of such establishments, and smokers must fully exhale before entering.

That way, smokers can have their places that are expected to be full of smoke, and nonsmokers can have THEIR places that are EXPECTED to be free of smoke.
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Hugh Jass wrote:
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Oh, yes, and let's have all other establishments provide special entrances with airlocks where smokers must shower and launder their clothing on the way in--all paid for by an increase in the tax on cigarettes, including compensation to the owners for loss of useful space--to keep the air in the establishments up to standards. Of course, no one should be permitted to smoke on the sidewalk within 30 feet of such establishments, and smokers must fully exhale before entering.
That way, smokers can have their places that are expected to be full of smoke, and nonsmokers can have THEIR places that are EXPECTED to be free of smoke.
You fanatics can be so down right comical with your extreme phobias!

LOL

Your kind actually claims there is "no safe level" of tobacco smoke which defies well established science such as the first rule of toxicology for goodness sake.

Just what other forms of smoke qualify for your kinds "religion"?

Perhaps you might actually list the top ten forms of smoke that qualify for your kinds ridiculous standard?

Would you be willing to apply your kinds "magical" standard of "no safe level" to all forms of smoke that contain known carcinogens, or only to a specific form that you can't stand or find useful?

There really is nothing more annoying than a "religious" fanatic with a HUGE set of double standards.
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Hugh Jass wrote:
"Bojangles doesn't offer food or serve anyone under 21, so owner Jo Risk sees the smoking ban as a threat to the survival of the family-owned business."
Oh, what superb logic!
When you are forced to harrass your customer base...of course it is bad for business you dolt.

You health fascists sure do lack even the slightest grasp of economics and common sense.

Now why don't you be a good little fanatic and go find yourself some cooking oil junkies, salt fanatics, or some soda pop addicts to demonize and hassle?
Tracie D BABY

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Freedom wrote:
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Now why don't you be a good little fanatic and go find yourself some cooking oil junkies, salt fanatics, or some soda pop addicts to demonize and hassle?
Why would we do that? If you (the hitler lover) were drinking a pop filled with cooking oil and salt...would it affect my health??

NO?!! Then go for it!

Again, I know you're too stupid to realize what I'm pointing out here. That's kind of the reason why we are FORCED to FORCE people like you out of public view- you're too stupid to realize YOUR FILTHY ADDICTION is hurting/killing OTHER PEOPLE.

The bans were never meant to protect scum like you- you can still kill yourself if you want!(Just not around other people)

Be a good little hitler lover now and give me a good cry!!

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