Is the truck driving school in wythev...

Is the truck driving school in wytheville a rip off?

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want a CDL

United States

#1 Jul 19, 2012
I was thinking about going to Alliance tractor trailer training,But all I have heard is not good...So if you have gone for training or no someone that has, please let me know?
Truck driver

United States

#2 Jul 20, 2012
want a CDL wrote:
I was thinking about going to Alliance tractor trailer training,But all I have heard is not good...So if you have gone for training or no someone that has, please let me know?
Alliance has been in business for many years, and not by ripping people off. If you want a CDL you will have to go to a truck driving school somewhere, and they are expensive. Alliance graduates do get driving jobs, if they want them, but 90 percent of driving school graduates don't make it 30 days in the trucking industry. There are a few companies that will train you if you agree to work for them for a certain peroid of time. WCC also has a driver training program that is probably better and cheaper.
steering wheel holder

United States

#3 Jul 20, 2012
want a CDL wrote:
I was thinking about going to Alliance tractor trailer training,But all I have heard is not good...So if you have gone for training or no someone that has, please let me know?
No..NO...NO!...don't go to that place those people are all shady "people"..old bob is the school "director"..old bob will lie like a rug and tell you anything he thinks you want to hear..they have been around since the 80s and there trucks or equipment is rusted junk from the 70s that they still use to day..that should have been in the junk yard in the 80s...the "instructors" look like a bunch of rag bags in there old uniforms faded and ragged from the 80s..and they charge 5800.00$ or more..they give kick backs if the state rehab sends a client to them..they give the kick back to the state vocational rehabilitation counselor.Bob will lie and tell you they help you find a job?..well they don't..you are on your own
the only reason they have been around this long is because they were the first and only truck school around..there instructors admit that the last time they drove commercial was 25-35-years ago
the "instructors" let the students teach the newer students the classes are 20 days, so you will have someone teaching you to back,turn,shift...that has 5-10 days more experience than you...and you are paying 5,800.00$...there are some good schools,but this is not one of them..and don't give them a 500.00 deposit..if you cant get the rest they wont give it back...they might have 2-3 students a month now because the word is getting around about>Alliance tractor trailer TRAINING
Charlie

Wytheville, VA

#4 Jul 21, 2012
They are a scam. Don't waste your money.
Truck driver

United States

#5 Jul 22, 2012
Charlie wrote:
They are a scam. Don't waste your money.
Oh, did they take your money and you didn't get your CDL?
Truck driver

United States

#6 Jul 22, 2012
want a CDL wrote:
I was thinking about going to Alliance tractor trailer training,But all I have heard is not good...So if you have gone for training or no someone that has, please let me know?
You owe it to yourself to get as much info as possible before you make a decision. Check out some driver boards and ask questions. www.lifeasatrucker.com/company-sponsored-cdl-...
steering wheel holder

United States

#7 Jul 22, 2012
Truck driver wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, did they take your money and you didn't get your CDL?
Oh, Did you get your CDL? from them?..."Truck driver"?..driving a pickup TRUCK don't count
Charlie

Wytheville, VA

#8 Jul 22, 2012
Just go to ripoffreport.com and you will see what people have to say about Alliance.
Truck driver

United States

#9 Jul 22, 2012
steering wheel holder wrote:
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Oh, Did you get your CDL? from them?..."Truck driver"?..driving a pickup TRUCK don't count
Learn to read...I didn't say I got my CDL from them and I'n not advocating anybody go to them for training. I do know several people that were trained there and did get driving jobs immediately. I also know they train a bunch of no-driving clowns that have no business in big trucks.

And do you really think any truck driving school is going to put a bunch of nit-wit student drivers in nice modern equipment? No, they're going to use the oldest most worn out equipment that is road worthy that they can find. And they lied to you? That sounds like real life trucking. You pay your money, you get a CDL, then you go to work somewhere and get trained. That's the way truck driving schools work in real life. To people with low comprehension skills anything that didn't turn out the way they expected was a "scam".
Truck driver

United States

#10 Jul 22, 2012
Charlie wrote:
Just go to ripoffreport.com and you will see what people have to say about Alliance.
Just what I thought, you read it on the internet. So it has to be true...
Charlie

Wytheville, VA

#11 Jul 22, 2012
Truck driver wrote:
<quoted text>Just what I thought, you read it on the internet. So it has to be true...
They are comments made by people who went to the school. Several of them have the same exact stories whether they attended the school in Wytheville, SC, or NC. Alliance tries to take peoples money hardcore. They are a bunch of scam artists.
steering wheel holder

United States

#12 Jul 22, 2012
Truck driver wrote:
<quoted text>Learn to read...I didn't say I got my CDL from them and I'n not advocating anybody go to them for training. I do know several people that were trained there and did get driving jobs immediately. I also know they train a bunch of no-driving clowns that have no business in big trucks.
And do you really think any truck driving school is going to put a bunch of nit-wit student drivers in nice modern equipment? No, they're going to use the oldest most worn out equipment that is road worthy that they can find. And they lied to you? That sounds like real life trucking. You pay your money, you get a CDL, then you go to work somewhere and get trained. That's the way truck driving schools work in real life. To people with low comprehension skills anything that didn't turn out the way they expected was a "scam".
You didn't catch what I was getting at..if you didn't get your CDL from alliance?..then why do you claim to know so much about them??
And for you to tell these people to go get trained at swift or Cr England just to name a few is really B.S.you forgot to tell them to be sure a lease a truck from swift or England

"You pay your money, you get a CDL, then you go to work somewhere and get trained. That's the way truck driving schools work in real life"......

What is the point in paying the bottom feeders at alliance 5,800$
Then go to work and get trained at swift or England??When they are suppose to get you the cdl with your training to work for them
then you work for free the next 6 months or more to pay back the training?? Well how did you get your CDL??if that's not B.S.? I have low comprehension skills..alliance tractor trailer..TRAINING...see its in there name
I know a big supper trucker like you with your HIGH comprehension skills just probably missed this..I know??.. you could get a job at alliance as a "trainer"...you are ready have the B.S. part down good..or you may already be scamming there..Bob is that you??
Graduate

Wytheville, VA

#13 Jul 23, 2012
I went through Alliance in 2010 and got a job immediately out of school with Con-way freight in Roanoke. The tuition is expensive and if I had the time I would have went through WCC, but that course takes several weeks (16 i think) whereas I finished Alliance in about a month.

Here is a run down of my experience with them:

7 of us in the class. 6 men, 1 woman ages from mid twenties to mid fifties. Out of the 7 of us, 4 got jobs immediately that I know of. 1 with UPS LTL in Roanoke, 1 with Con-way, 1 with KLLM, and 1 with an OTR company I cannot remember.

Out of the 3 who didn't get jobs, 1 was a convict who probably should have never enrolled. He had spent many years in jail and not likely to ever land a real job because of it. The 2nd was a guy who was having marriage issues and would probably never trust his spouse enough to leave home for an OTR job; he was checking with a local timber company last I heard to drive a logging truck. The last guy never really learned how to drive a truck. He actually interviewed and took the road test for the same job I got at con-way in Roanoke but didn't pass the test. Unless he went OTR with a company like Swift or Werner where he could get more training, he probably isn't working as a driver.

Now for the outline of the school:

Week 1: All classroom stuff going through a CDL manual and watching some movies and talking to the instructor. They basically tell you everything that is going to be on the written test and go over logbooks and route planning and such. Boring but not bad. This is M-W and they give you Thursday off or out early to go to the DMV to take the tests for your CDL learners, and Friday off to take it in case you don't pass on Thursday.

Week 2: Show up Monday a.m. and drive a truck. They split my class into 2 groups. 1 group went on the road to drive, the other went over to their driving lot on cove road that you can see from 77. You drive an obstacle course and learn to back there. You also learn coupling/uncoupling and pretrip inspections for the CDL test. Basically you just go back and forth between driving at the range or on the road this week; and really for the rest of the course.

Week 3: Same as above except you might talk to a couple of recruiters from OTR companies like Werner, Swift, TMC and fill out some applications.

Week 4: More driving that leads up to the finale of taking your tests: Written tests of everything you went over, Obstacle course, Pretrip Inspection test, Coupling & Uncoupling, Road test.

Pass them and you get your CDL (after giving cash to the DMV for endorsements and such), to finish it off you go through this little cheesy graduation. Whoever has the best overall score from all the tests is named "top driver" and gets to give a speech to the class - lame, but it is what it is.

Now for the disclaimer: If you're a felon, have DUIs, or other such history. You may be wasting your cash; some of the bottom feeder OTR companies may take you, but maybe not.

Work history is important as well. If you have a horrible work history or no references, it'll be tough to get a job - just like any other field. My advice - most OTR companies use a company called Hire Right to do their work history verification. If yours sucks, buy a prepaid cell phone and use that number for a work reference. It's shady and I hope you don't need to do it, but I know guys who did it and it worked. Make up a boss and give them that number; you then get to give yourself a work reference.

Also, don't settle for OTR jobs. They blow. Look for LTL jobs (Conway, FedEx, UPS, Saia, Old Dominion, etc) You're home every night. Long days still,~14 hours.

If those don't work, try delivery driving. Beer distributors have high turnover rates because the work is hard and the days are long. The pay is ok and all of the local (to wytheville) beer companies are hiring right now. Virginia Eagle - Pulaski, Blue Ridge Beverage - Marion.
Truck driver

United States

#15 Jul 24, 2012
steering wheel holder wrote:
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A bunch of nonsense...
This is your lucky day. I've changed my mind and I am going to answer some of your questions because you are so clueless. For my own entertainment.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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You didn't catch what I was getting at..if you didn't get your CDL from alliance?..then why do you claim to know so much about them??


Many years ago I worked for a company that hired a LOT of driving school graduates, and I ran team with some of them for a couple of years. I could see no difference in the skill levels of Alliance trained drivers and any other school. None of them knew what they were doing, but most of them could hold the truck in one lane and shift gears (kind of). And it didn't matter which school they had attended. All I know about Alliance is what I heard and saw from them. They had their CDL and they had jobs.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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And for you to tell these people to go get trained at swift or Cr England just to name a few is really B.S.you forgot to tell them to be sure a lease a truck from swift or England
I never said that. I was not talking to "these people" I was talking to the guy that made the original post. I didn't "forget" to tell "them" to lease a truck from anybody. I would never advise anybody to do something so stupid.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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"You pay your money, you get a CDL, then you go to work somewhere and get trained. That's the way truck driving schools work in real life"......
I should have said "then you go to work somewhere as a PAID driver trainee" Sorry this confused you.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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What is the point in paying the bottom feeders at alliance 5,800$
Then go to work and get trained at swift or England??When they are suppose to get you the cdl with your training to work for them
then you work for free the next 6 months or more to pay back the training??
You have to attend some CERTIFIED truck driving school somewhere before Swift or England or Werner or Schneider will hire you. They put you in a truck with another driver that has a couple of weeks, months or years experience. No mega-carrier is going to put a rookie in a truck by themselves and send them merrily on their way OTR. Their insurance companies won't let them and they would be fools if they did.

I don't know how the company "in-house" training programs work. I don't think you have to drive for free but they take payments out of your checks. Or maybe you will have to stay with them a certain time period and the school debt is forgiven. I wouldn't take that route but it works for SOME people. Especially if they really want to drive and can't afford to pay a school.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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Well how did you get your CDL??


I walked into the DMV office with my Class-A Chauffeurs license, took a written Haz-Mat test, gave them some money and walked out with a CDL. It was pretty simple really.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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..alliance tractor trailer..TRAINING...see its in there name


That's what they do... train people to shift gears (kind of) and drive up and down 77 and 81 with out running over anything. But some people can't be trained.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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I know a big supper trucker like you


I'm not having a big supper but I had a huge breakfast.
steering wheel holder wrote:
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you could get a job at alliance as a "trainer"...you are ready have the B.S. part down good..or you may already be scamming there. Bob is that you??
They had an opening one time so I called them. They copped an attitude with me because I had gone to school somewhere else. I never even filled out the application.

If you want to talk to your buddy Bob you should call him at work. You should have his number.
Another

Kansas City, MO

#16 Jul 27, 2012
Charlie wrote:
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They are comments made by people who went to the school. Several of them have the same exact stories whether they attended the school in Wytheville, SC, or NC. Alliance tries to take peoples money hardcore. They are a bunch of scam artists.
80,000 graduates and 8 complaints? You're goofy.
Sam Cregger

United States

#17 Jul 27, 2012
Another wrote:
<quoted text>80,000 graduates and 8 complaints? You're goofy.
There is at least 18 complaints and that's just on rip off report..type in alliance tractor trailer..leave off the training..you will get all the complaints..Why talk about years ago
with there 80,000 graduates..that's bull anyways..Lets talk about now?
Talking about the past is like saying 27 years ago I had excellent credit..but now we have incompetent people that lie to you to get your money...but look back 27 yrs ago..we use to be great!!
Alliance & the local DMV have a thing going on....The DMV comes to Alliance property to give the driving test..Because of the worn out junk that alliance "TRAINS" in...in other words it shouldn't be on the road..but why Is the local DMV showing favoritism for ALLIANCE??..They pass the "students"no matter what..(May be) there is a little kick back from ALLIANCE??..I personally know one person that lives in a neighboring state that GRADUATED from alliance and he couldn't do any more than start the truck..and sit there grinding the gears..And he had a CDL???..There is no way he could have..or should have passed a state driving test...He now works in a garage changing oil?...They don't do anything but read to them out of a driving book, everything else is up to them in the parking lot...The state should go back at least 10-15yrs and suspend all cdl that came from ALLIANCE TRACTOR TRAILER TRAINING!
For public safety..make them re test! The one person I was talking about could legally jump in any 80,000 lb..(40tons) truck and drive any where in the USA...If he could get it in the right gear..
cdl lady

Roanoke, VA

#18 Aug 16, 2012
Got my CDL from them in 2000 and a job with TMC straight out. I know know several other people who went through them also, got their CDL and some have some very good jobs now. I have nothing bad to say about them.
Earl
#19 Aug 16, 2012
Why don't u use that money to start a sno cone business?
timmy
#21 Aug 17, 2012
I heard that 47% of tractor trailer accidents are caused by Alliance graduates.
U LOSER

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Aug 26, 2012
Earl wrote:
If you want to learn to drive a truck get your ass over there. If you don't start a sno cone business in Ceres and retire at 38.
Why dont you quit posting as Earl and put your real name on here aka GEORGE !!! LOSER

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