Medical marijuana patient sues over W...

Medical marijuana patient sues over Wyoming's proposed ban of drug

There are 29 comments on the Flint Township/Swartz Creek Advance story from Nov 10, 2010, titled Medical marijuana patient sues over Wyoming's proposed ban of drug. In it, Flint Township/Swartz Creek Advance reports that:

John Ter Beek, a retired attorney licensed as a marijuana patient has filed suit in Kent County Circuit Court over Wyoming's intent to ban medicinal use of the drug.

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Ho Lee Schitt

Doylestown, PA

#1 Nov 11, 2010
Typical wyoming redneck idiocy! Avoid wyoming at all costs! A state of trailer park meth addled inbreds!
The Judges

Wayland, MI

#2 Nov 11, 2010
Ho Lee Schitt wrote:
Typical wyoming redneck idiocy! Avoid wyoming at all costs! A state of trailer park meth addled inbreds!
Uh, dude.
This is about the city of Wyoming Michigan.
Not the state.
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#3 Nov 11, 2010
The Judges wrote:
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Uh, dude.
This is about the city of Wyoming Michigan.
Not the state.
If you replace the words 'Trailer Parks' with 'Apartment Complexes' the OP is describing Wyoming Michigan pretty well.

If nothing else, time will be on our side. If it defers (medical marijuana) from the city of Wyoming for any amount of time, then I feel its an accomplishment. Im out to protect our citizens as long as I can.--Mayor Jack Poll

Here's a few ideas: Concentrate on your increasingly violent gang problems. Concentrate on your epidemic of meth labs. Concentrate on the amount of tax revenue you continue to lose due to businesses closing their doors, there seem to be several every day. Concentrate on the collapse of the housing values because of all the crime and unemployment your city enjoys. Concentrate on your crumbling school system and infrastructure. Concentrate on the disgusting motels that are breeding grounds for sexual predators. Concentrate on your overall violent crime rates that continue to go up with the unemployment rate.

Instead you're going to concentrate on a harmless herb that the citizens of this state voted to regulate for medical purposes.

You aren't out to protect your citizens from anything. F'ing cracker idiot.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#4 Nov 11, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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If you replace the words 'Trailer Parks' with 'Apartment Complexes' the OP is describing Wyoming Michigan pretty well.
If nothing else, time will be on our side. If it defers (medical marijuana) from the city of Wyoming for any amount of time, then I feel its an accomplishment. Im out to protect our citizens as long as I can.--Mayor Jack Poll
Here's a few ideas: Concentrate on your increasingly violent gang problems. Concentrate on your epidemic of meth labs. Concentrate on the amount of tax revenue you continue to lose due to businesses closing their doors, there seem to be several every day. Concentrate on the collapse of the housing values because of all the crime and unemployment your city enjoys. Concentrate on your crumbling school system and infrastructure. Concentrate on the disgusting motels that are breeding grounds for sexual predators. Concentrate on your overall violent crime rates that continue to go up with the unemployment rate.
Instead you're going to concentrate on a harmless herb that the citizens of this state voted to regulate for medical purposes.
You aren't out to protect your citizens from anything. F'ing cracker idiot.
There are no drug or gang problems in Holland?
People who live in glass houses,.........
And you call yourself a "saint"!?
"cracker idiot" ????
Thats a good one!
Were you looking in the mirror?
Rat smeller

Grand Rapids, MI

#5 Nov 11, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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F'ing cracker idiot.
Really Pete? I mean Stevie.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#6 Nov 11, 2010
Good Day,

First of all, so far as I know, the man who brought te suit and restraining order forward is an attorney himself who if I remember brought he two actions forward as he thought what Wyoming was doing was against the new State law. Just some non-partisan (hopefully) facts.

Now to partisan... Unfortunately many of the examples given for other things that the City of Wyoming should focus upon, are by far not their problem alone. Can or should they at least attempt to address these issues? Sure. But the problems stem I believe from other issue of entities not doing their job.

Gangs... many, not all, are of one of two groups. Hispanic or African American. Again, I said many, not all! If we closed the borders, part of that problem is solved. If the Government got out of the business of being the "ghost father" to soooo many children born out of wedlock, we might not have seen the dramatic decline of the proud male/father in the African American community. The government, I dare say, has re-enslaved them. The evidence is all too strong to argue against.

Concentrate tax revenue... blah, blah... What is to be suggested? Tax existing businesses even more and have even more empty business space? This, primarily is not the fault of the city, but rather the fault of the State and Democrat controlled government. You can't tax (the private sector) your way into prosperity.

Schools... I agree that cities really do have to take more of a realistic approach to their schools. Sorry, but the unions, if they really cared about the kids, would make the appropriate sacrifices needed for the cities to be able to afford to ensure these children gained a solid education.

Hotels, can't argue with that...!

Harmless herb? I think not. More on that later...

Steelie

St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#7 Nov 12, 2010
Steelie wrote:
Good Day,
First of all, so far as I know, the man who brought te suit and restraining order forward is an attorney himself who if I remember brought he two actions forward as he thought what Wyoming was doing was against the new State law. Just some non-partisan (hopefully) facts.
Now to partisan... Unfortunately many of the examples given for other things that the City of Wyoming should focus upon, are by far not their problem alone. Can or should they at least attempt to address these issues? Sure. But the problems stem I believe from other issue of entities not doing their job.
Gangs... many, not all, are of one of two groups. Hispanic or African American. Again, I said many, not all! If we closed the borders, part of that problem is solved. If the Government got out of the business of being the "ghost father" to soooo many children born out of wedlock, we might not have seen the dramatic decline of the proud male/father in the African American community. The government, I dare say, has re-enslaved them. The evidence is all too strong to argue against.
Concentrate tax revenue... blah, blah... What is to be suggested? Tax existing businesses even more and have even more empty business space? This, primarily is not the fault of the city, but rather the fault of the State and Democrat controlled government. You can't tax (the private sector) your way into prosperity.
Schools... I agree that cities really do have to take more of a realistic approach to their schools. Sorry, but the unions, if they really cared about the kids, would make the appropriate sacrifices needed for the cities to be able to afford to ensure these children gained a solid education.
Hotels, can't argue with that...!
Harmless herb? I think not. More on that later...
Steelie
My point was Wyoming is a dying town, that is not debatable. Pot should be very low on their list of priorities, IMO. The citizens of this state passed a law and now the Wyoming city council has decided to throw the law out the window, without any input from the citizens.

The people have spoken and now these douchbags want to silence the people. For what reason? Safety? So, let me get this straight....you are saying with all the problems that exist in the city of Wyoming (and you can debate 'why' they exist until you're blue in the face...that fact remains that they exist!) they should be spending valuable resources and tax payer money to go after cancer patients sitting in their living room???

Aren't you the one always talking about freedom and liberty? Decreased spending? I'll bet the city council members think the same way you do, in fact I'll bet they're teabaggers. Well this goes against freedom, liberty and decrease in spending. It's examples like this that prove some of you only like the 'idea' of having freedom and liberty. When liberties and freedoms are put to the test though you stomp them out like a flaming bag of dogshit!
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#8 Nov 12, 2010
Steelie wrote:
Good Day,
Harmless herb? I think not. More on that later...
Steelie
By all means, explain to me the evils of the marijuana plant. I am eagerly waiting your examples.
Flawed

Sandusky, OH

#9 Nov 12, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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My point was Wyoming is a dying town, that is not debatable. Pot should be very low on their list of priorities, IMO. The citizens of this state passed a law and now the Wyoming city council has decided to throw the law out the window, without any input from the citizens.
The people have spoken and now these douchbags want to silence the people. For what reason? Safety? So, let me get this straight....you are saying with all the problems that exist in the city of Wyoming (and you can debate 'why' they exist until you're blue in the face...that fact remains that they exist!) they should be spending valuable resources and tax payer money to go after cancer patients sitting in their living room???
Aren't you the one always talking about freedom and liberty? Decreased spending? I'll bet the city council members think the same way you do, in fact I'll bet they're teabaggers. Well this goes against freedom, liberty and decrease in spending. It's examples like this that prove some of you only like the 'idea' of having freedom and liberty. When liberties and freedoms are put to the test though you stomp them out like a flaming bag of dogshit!
Yes by all means, lets just do nothing about any other problems, ever, until the gangs are gone. Drunk drivers? Cops need to be on the lookout for gang activity. Domestic violence? Naah, not unless it is a gang member doing it. Dump all of the money from the social programs, and throw it into gang related issues. Then once the gang issues are solved, forget about them and throw all the resources into the next issue, ignoring everything else. Only 1 issue at a time.
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#10 Nov 12, 2010
Flawed wrote:
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Yes by all means, lets just do nothing about any other problems, ever, until the gangs are gone. Drunk drivers? Cops need to be on the lookout for gang activity. Domestic violence? Naah, not unless it is a gang member doing it. Dump all of the money from the social programs, and throw it into gang related issues. Then once the gang issues are solved, forget about them and throw all the resources into the next issue, ignoring everything else. Only 1 issue at a time.
Your stance on this issue conflicts with what the teabaggers have taught you. You can't pick and choose freedom and liberty, it either is or it isn't.
Flawed

Sandusky, OH

#11 Nov 12, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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Your stance on this issue conflicts with what the teabaggers have taught you. You can't pick and choose freedom and liberty, it either is or it isn't.
Incorrect. Having Freedom is not having the liberty to do what ever you want, and Liberty is not the freedom to act outside of the excepted norms.

The State of Michigan has granted the cities the rights to legislate for themselves. Add to the fact that the Vote is in disregard to FEDERAL law...

You are all for the States being in the wrong when they vote against things that you support, like Gay Marriage, but cry foul when they pass a law that is in direct conflict with the Federal law.
I guess that has no bearing on this, right?
Mark

Rockford, MI

#12 Nov 12, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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The people have spoken and now these douchbags want to silence the people. For what reason? Safety? So, let me get this straight....you are saying with all the problems that exist in the city of Wyoming (and you can debate 'why' they exist until you're blue in the face...that fact remains that they exist!) they should be spending valuable resources and tax payer money to go after cancer patients sitting in their living room???
Actually on this point I will agree with you. The people have spoken and that is the rule of the land. Tell the colleges to stop supplying benefits to their gay partners, the 'people have spoken' on that issue also...remember you cannot have it both ways. Personally the more the controversial the new law, the more I wanted it tested in court to ensure it is constitutional. Too many of our freedoms are pissed away as some municipality passes some mandate/ordinance and they are never tested in court. Much like your conversation on another thread about drinking water.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#13 Nov 12, 2010
small clarification, should have said "professor's gay partners"
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#14 Nov 12, 2010
Flawed wrote:
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Incorrect. Having Freedom is not having the liberty to do what ever you want, and Liberty is not the freedom to act outside of the excepted norms.
The State of Michigan has granted the cities the rights to legislate for themselves. Add to the fact that the Vote is in disregard to FEDERAL law...
You are all for the States being in the wrong when they vote against things that you support, like Gay Marriage, but cry foul when they pass a law that is in direct conflict with the Federal law.
I guess that has no bearing on this, right?
It's funny that you bring up FEDERAL law since the backbone to the real conservative agenda is less federal regulation and more power given to the STATES.

This discussion has no bearing on gay marriage, but since you mention it, if a state passes a law against it I don't 'cry foul'.
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#15 Nov 12, 2010
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Actually on this point I will agree with you. The people have spoken and that is the rule of the land. Tell the colleges to stop supplying benefits to their gay partners, the 'people have spoken' on that issue also...remember you cannot have it both ways. Personally the more the controversial the new law, the more I wanted it tested in court to ensure it is constitutional. Too many of our freedoms are pissed away as some municipality passes some mandate/ordinance and they are never tested in court. Much like your conversation on another thread about drinking water.
The difference between a professor's benefits for gay partners is this: If the people decide they don't want benefits going to a gay partner the worst that can happen is that partner is now left up to gettiing their own benefits.

Now with medical marijuana on the other hand, the worst that can happen is the medical marijuana user can now have his freedom and liberty stripped away from him/her and be thrown in jail.

Big difference.
Flawed

Sandusky, OH

#16 Nov 12, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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It's funny that you bring up FEDERAL law since the backbone to the real conservative agenda is less federal regulation and more power given to the STATES.
This discussion has no bearing on gay marriage, but since you mention it, if a state passes a law against it I don't 'cry foul'.
But you are breaking with the libtard talking points there Stevie...
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#17 Nov 12, 2010
Flawed wrote:
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But you are breaking with the libtard talking points there Stevie...
I think there are a few things better left to the federal government, the military, FAA, FDA, NTSB, EPA and a few others. Laws made at the state level, regarding personal liberty, should ALWAYS trump federal ones.
Snapple

Grand Rapids, MI

#18 Nov 12, 2010
St Stephen wrote:
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I think there are a few things better left to the federal government, the military, FAA, FDA, NTSB, EPA and a few others. Laws made at the state level, regarding personal liberty, should ALWAYS trump federal ones.
Our federal government is broken, I repeat, IT"S BROKEN. Washington politics/federal government has become a labyrinth of corruption and greed.

States need to take back as much control as possible and start over.

Think of it as pruning rose bushes. Getting rid of dead wood, diseased branches and spraying for bugs insures a healthy bush in the spring. Doing nothing will produce a sickly infected bush with poor quality flowers. Washington needs a bushhog.


What your definition of personal liberty?


Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#19 Nov 12, 2010
Good Day,

First, the ordinance has not yet gone into effect.

For example, there are still a number of "dry" counties and towns in existance. Is it really any different?

Steelie

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20 Nov 13, 2010
Good Day,

The law:

http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-274...

Unless I missed it, no where did I read that any municipality was compelled to allow the sale of medical marijuna within their jurisdiction. The law, while sufficiently vague, really only goes to define who is considered and under what circumstances one can be a patient and who (physician) can prescribe the "medication" if you will. As well as where and how said "medication" can be consumed/used. It leaves a whole lot of issues either left out or fully ignored. As Mayor Poll pointed out in an interview with Wood T.V.:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_cou...

And he makes a good point with the following from the article:

"The mayor, who is also a pharmacist, said if marijuana is going to be legalized, it ought to be sent through the normal channels for legal medication."

Steelie

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