Joe Paterno: Salem Witch Trials Revisited

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Ken

Buena Vista, VA

#1 May 15, 2013
The focus and blame placed on Joe Paterno for the Sandusky crimes is identical to the mass hysteria that occurred in the Salem witch trials in 1692. Only in PA could this sort of superstitious hysteria still take place over 300 years later, with no lessons learned! Granted, the differences here are those with money and power are helping to generate the PSU hysteria, whereas in Salem, it was rooted mostly in superstition and fear. But the similarities cannot be ignored. The ability to manipulate the public to condemn innocents based on belief alone is frightening here. Louis Freeh was brought in as a master of psychological manipulation of public opinion in order to protect the powerful and wealthy guilty parties involved in enabling Sandusky. Those parties are: Tom Corbett as the PA Attorney General for 3 terms, and the PSU BOT that fired an innocent man, while attempting to defame his impeccable moral character.

The rest of the nation needs to come to the aid of PSU and have the PA Governor Corbett tried for multiple crimes of receiving monies from Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Charity therefore buying Sandusky immunity to the pedophile complaints that Corbett had on his desk beginning in 1995. And Louis Freeh and each member of the PSU BOT that fired Paterno needs to stand trial for slander, wrongful termination and defamation of character. Unite good people of the U.S. and help Pennsylvania into the 21st century.
Rob

Charlottesville, VA

#2 May 28, 2013
The general public doesn't have the energy and patience to hash this out in their mind. Your local corrupt PA government keeps you hungry so you don't have time to see their dirty deeds. People need to care and fight it because it'll be you next when you dispute a parking ticket or criticize a local municipal official that treats you unfairly. Joe was railroaded big time.
plentyofblame

Bryn Mawr, PA

#3 May 28, 2013
Oh there is plenty of blame to go around BUT Paterno WAS Penn State Football and the public face of the school which made him a defacto school official and not just the athletic dept king. Meaning if he spoke up about Sandusky in the late 90s the Sandusky name would've been a footnote in Penn State history now.

Paterno was also a selfish bastard who sadly lived life through football and wouldn't step down early this century when the program was struggling.

Why did Sandusky suddenly resign/retire at an age where many coaches are at their prime as far as career ? Why- because Paterno probably "incentivized" him even if through third parties to save Paterno's football program but NOT the schools reputation.

Sure there were plenty of corrupt politics and deeds done in reguard to the Sandusky scandal in the name of 'the program'. BUT defacto King Paterno could've ended it all over a decade ago simply by opening his mouth publically or given closed door ultimatums to school officials.
Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#4 May 28, 2013
plentyofblame wrote:
Oh there is plenty of blame to go around BUT Paterno WAS Penn State Football and the public face of the school which made him a defacto school official and not just the athletic dept king. Meaning if he spoke up about Sandusky in the late 90s the Sandusky name would've been a footnote in Penn State history now.
Paterno was also a selfish bastard who sadly lived life through football and wouldn't step down early this century when the program was struggling.
Why did Sandusky suddenly resign/retire at an age where many coaches are at their prime as far as career ? Why- because Paterno probably "incentivized" him even if through third parties to save Paterno's football program but NOT the schools reputation.
Sure there were plenty of corrupt politics and deeds done in reguard to the Sandusky scandal in the name of 'the program'. BUT defacto King Paterno could've ended it all over a decade ago simply by opening his mouth publically or given closed door ultimatums to school officials.
Paterno, a "selfish bastard"? You've got to be kidding! He devoted his life to PSU, the students, and therefore the entire state of PA. And all indications have it that he was a man of very high moral character. Your argument is like the Freeh report, it's opinion and speculation. Compare Tom Corbett's shady past and his constant attempts to pull something over on the public to Joe Pa's decent clean life. There's just no comparison of the two. Tom Corbett is a rotten apple that's spoiled the whole bunch. And Joe Pa was honest, and upstanding as they come. Law enforcement had Sandusky complaints in at least 1995, meaning Tom Corbett, Attorney General. His job is to bring charges against those that commit serious crimes. He had 3 terms to do so and did nothing until the public found out here just recently. Joe only recently received a second hand account of a shower incident and because it was unclear, and he wasn't a witness, he did what he should have done, he reported it! None of this would have happened to Joe or the kids if Corbett had arrested Sandusky before he had a chance to hurt people. What would stop law enforcement from bringing charges for so long? Money, dirty money, IMO. Also, Louis Freeh is quite aware of, and remembers Sandusky events from the 70s and 80s. This is a failure of his FBI that was supposed to stop it back then too. All this dark government stuff is not about the 80 year old Joe Pa, that couldn't even use e-mail. Absurd to even think so.
Joe Pa

Hazleton, PA

#5 May 28, 2013
I don't see what the big deal is anyway. They were all "troubled" teens. You know what "troubled" means... queer. I bet all of the litigants against Penn State are gay.
plentyofblame

Bryn Mawr, PA

#6 May 28, 2013
Not resigning or retiring in his 70s let alone 65 is enough to consider Paterno selfish. Sounds like a personal problem that Paterno could not or would live without football.

How effective a coach was he in his last ten years having to be driven around in a golf cart. Luckily the program had enough of a reputation that it probably attracted enough talent to run itself without Paterno micro managing. There were mediocre and/or losing seasons. He was probably left in there for recruiting and tv reasons only ie money for the school.

I'll be the first to say that Pennsylvania government is a corrupt old boy smoked filled room political organization. But by not doing anything with more power than many of the politicians that helped fund Penn State Joe Paterno was part of the problem.

Joe Paterno is not worthy of martyrdom
Karen

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Jun 16, 2013
How can this Louis Freeh just dip in and ruin a good man's lifework with a bunch of opinions presented as fact? And then he just disappears! "I got my 8 million to lead this state government assault on a private citizen, now I can just lay low and enjoy my money!". Sickening.
Schlaff

Moorestown, NJ

#9 Jul 10, 2013
I've worked with victims of sexual abuse over 20 years . It's difficult for me to see how most of the NCAA sanctions benefit the victims .# Sandusky was the monster and he's in jail for life and that is the right thing to help the kids feel safe .# This has absolutely nothing to do with football . If Sandusky was seen by McQueery in an empty math classroom would shutting done all math classes at Penn State stop child abuse .
Mark

Collegeville, PA

#10 Aug 10, 2013
Spotting a professional predator is difficult . If Joe Paterno is guilty so are at least 50 other people from various organizations . But it's really hard for me to believe that Joe Paterno would cover up child abuse , when reporting an abuser would only make Joe and PSU look even better .
Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Sep 11, 2013
Graham Spanier has filed his defamation lawsuit against Louis Freeh. Maybe, just maybe this will force Freeh to lie under oath, and we can finally put him away for abusing public trust and falsely implicating innocent people for huge cash payouts.
plentyofblame

Bryn Mawr, PA

#12 Sep 12, 2013
Mark wrote:
Spotting a professional predator is difficult . If Joe Paterno is guilty so are at least 50 other people from various organizations . But it's really hard for me to believe that Joe Paterno would cover up child abuse , when reporting an abuser would only make Joe and PSU look even better .
A scandal of any kind especially in the late 90s early 2000s would've been the end of Paterno's career since many already wanted him to retire. Throw in the over bloated self image and sense of importance both Penn State and Paterno had of themselves they would go out of their way to offuscate any scandal let alone cover it up. Paterno turned a blind eye and failed to push the university to do more. Paterno WAS Penn State.

The big question is why Sandusky suddenly retired in the late 90s when most big time college coaches have of plenty of life and advanced opportunities left in their career.

The problem with Sandusky is that he was with the school and Paterno for a while so guilt by association already sinks them fair or not. But again Penn State and Paterno thought too much of themselves. Their egos would not tolerate negativity.
Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Sep 12, 2013
plentyofblame wrote:
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A scandal of any kind especially in the late 90s early 2000s would've been the end of Paterno's career since many already wanted him to retire. Throw in the over bloated self image and sense of importance both Penn State and Paterno had of themselves they would go out of their way to offuscate any scandal let alone cover it up. Paterno turned a blind eye and failed to push the university to do more. Paterno WAS Penn State.
The big question is why Sandusky suddenly retired in the late 90s when most big time college coaches have of plenty of life and advanced opportunities left in their career.
The problem with Sandusky is that he was with the school and Paterno for a while so guilt by association already sinks them fair or not. But again Penn State and Paterno thought too much of themselves. Their egos would not tolerate negativity.
You say, "Penn State and Paterno thought too much of themselves". Who says? Isn't that an opinion, and nothing more? I think what is being shown, is Tom Corbett and Tom Ridge thought too much of themselves, to the point that they took Sandusky's Second Mile cash flow and looked the other way.

Tom Ridge forced Tom Corbett in as Attorney General in 1995 to replace Ernie Preate's unfinished term! This was done to begin covering the money trail and pedophile complaints of Sandusky's organization. The pedophile complaints rolled into Tom Corbett's Att.Gen.'s office throughout his 3 terms, and he ignored them for 11 years. This is what created the "PSU" scandal, Corbett ignoring serious pedophile complaints for 11 years. Essentially, Sandusky bought his immunity from Ridge and Corbett.

Proof: visit Youtube and watch Ray Blehar's videos on this corrupt PA government's attempted cover-up. Also, know that this evidence is being handed over to Kathleen Kane daily and as we speak.
plentyofblame

Bryn Mawr, PA

#14 Sep 12, 2013
Ken wrote:
<quoted text>You say, "Penn State and Paterno thought too much of themselves". Who says? Isn't that an opinion, and nothing more? I think what is being shown, is Tom Corbett and Tom Ridge thought too much of themselves, to the point that they took Sandusky's Second Mile cash flow and looked the other way.
Tom Ridge forced Tom Corbett in as Attorney General in 1995 to replace Ernie Preate's unfinished term! This was done to begin covering the money trail and pedophile complaints of Sandusky's organization. The pedophile complaints rolled into Tom Corbett's Att.Gen.'s office throughout his 3 terms, and he ignored them for 11 years. This is what created the "PSU" scandal, Corbett ignoring serious pedophile complaints for 11 years. Essentially, Sandusky bought his immunity from Ridge and Corbett.
Proof: visit Youtube and watch Ray Blehar's videos on this corrupt PA government's attempted cover-up. Also, know that this evidence is being handed over to Kathleen Kane daily and as we speak.
Criminal prosecution was botched but Paterno who WAS the public face of Penn State with enough defacto power to push for a more vigorous investigation much earlier in the process. Paterno played dumb and Penn State looked the other way.

It just wasn't the politicians accepting some campaign contributions it was the politicians covering their political butts period. Just look at the outcry when the scandal broke and sanctions imposed.'Oh, were a small college town that is dependent on Penn State football like a junky on crack'. The politicians AND Penn State emphasized this when anything negative did or could come up. They basically played the 'we're too big to fail' card. Penn State was already a sacred cow that got 'protection' regardless campaign contributions.

The politicians and prosecutors might have been after the fact enablers but it was Penn State that failed to clean it's own house or to openly and vigorously turn it over to law enforcement to clean it up.

Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Sep 12, 2013
plentyofblame wrote:
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Criminal prosecution was botched but Paterno who WAS the public face of Penn State with enough defacto power to push for a more vigorous investigation much earlier in the process. Paterno played dumb and Penn State looked the other way.
It just wasn't the politicians accepting some campaign contributions it was the politicians covering their political butts period. Just look at the outcry when the scandal broke and sanctions imposed.'Oh, were a small college town that is dependent on Penn State football like a junky on crack'. The politicians AND Penn State emphasized this when anything negative did or could come up. They basically played the 'we're too big to fail' card. Penn State was already a sacred cow that got 'protection' regardless campaign contributions.
The politicians and prosecutors might have been after the fact enablers but it was Penn State that failed to clean it's own house or to openly and vigorously turn it over to law enforcement to clean it up.
Every single "point" you're trying to make is an assumption or an opinion: being dependent on football, Joe Paterno,(a football coach), was the "public face of PSU, "sacred cow", "we're too big to fail". All of these statements are you speaking nonsense. No one said or did any of these things you are making up.
However, Ray Blehar is uncovering facts daily that support this Louis Freeh report is a paid-for frame-up job by the corrupt Pennsylvania government. The janitor story was fabricated, the alleged boy shower victim claims nothing happened, and Sandusky wasn't even an employee of Paterno's for the last 14 years! Not even a coach for 14 years! He was an independent representing his Second Mile organization on campus, not a football coach.

The crimes lie within the PA government taking money from Sandusky's Second Mile throughout Tom Corbett's 3 terms as the Attorney General. Three terms of steady Sandusky pedophile complaints, and the top law enforcement man in PA ignores it for 11 years! There would be no "PSU" scandal if Tom Corbett and Tom Ridge had not lined their pockets with Second Mile money. They caused the PSU scandal and put everyone at PSU in harm's way, all the while exploiting Pennsylvania's needy children. It's no different than the "kids for cash" exploitation of children and the Milton Hershey School child sex scandal in PA. Can't see the pattern yet? Dirty, immoral Pennsylvania government sacrificing its own children for money!

It's a fact that new Attorney General, Kathleen Kane, has appointed an independent special prosecutor to investigate this thoroughly.
plentyofblame

Bryn Mawr, PA

#16 Sep 12, 2013
Pennsylvania is loaded with corrupt politicians but that's a given. Penn State knows how the game is played officially and unofficially. I'm not defending politics in Pennsylvania.

How do you think Penn State got an exception to transparency laws and is a state school receiving state money. It wasn't by osmosis or an oversight it was a series a favors that started at Penn State. College today is a business and it just takes anyone involved with political connections to get favors through official and unofficial channels. Those same channels could've been used to push for a more aggressive criminal investigation as well.

But more importantly if the likes of Joe Paterno who had a much greater favorability rating than politicians had spoken and pushed for criminal investigations over a decade ago this would've been an old story. It was all about positive PR.

I'm still puzzled as to why Sandusky quit at the peak of his coaching career in the late 90s. That sounds like a go away quietly and we'll keep it quiet deal to me.
Paterno Inferno

Hazleton, PA

#19 Sep 21, 2013
Joe Pa and Sandusky tag teamed me. Whist gaping they shoved a loaf of Milano bread up my bum.
Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Sep 21, 2013
Paterno Inferno wrote:
Joe Pa and Sandusky tag teamed me. Whist gaping they shoved a loaf of Milano bread up my bum.
I think you meant to say "Louis Freeh and Tom Corbett". They're the corrupt politicians that screw people for money.
Drhuxtable

Havertown, PA

#21 Sep 21, 2013
Joe paterno didn't do enough and he was in the position to. But hey, go team! Pass me a beer

I can't believe you idiots blaming Corbett , you forgot to blame bush.you also forgot to blame the victims
Ken

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Sep 22, 2013
Drhuxtable wrote:
Joe paterno didn't do enough and he was in the position to. But hey, go team! Pass me a beer
I can't believe you idiots blaming Corbett , you forgot to blame bush.you also forgot to blame the victims
Joe was not in a position to do anything because the Attorney General that was supposed to be investigating and prosecuting Sandusky since 1995 was not doing his law enforcement job. Corbett, the Attorney
General, effectively placed everyone at PSU in harm's way by not doing his job! Sandusky had not even been a coach and a Paterno employee for 14 long years when Corbett belatedly arrests Sandusky! This has all been a ruse by corrupt Tom Corbett who was on the take from Sanduky's Second Mile for over 15 years! First as Attoreny General for three terms, then as Governor, Corbett is covering his own ass with lies he passes to himself as he becomes governor! Only in Pennsylvania can you find this kind of absurd backwoods political corruption. None of what I've said is opinion, it's fact. Research Kathleen Kane and Geoff Moulton and their current investigation of Corbett's corruption. Also see Ray Blehar's evidence on Youtube that proves the Freeh report is an illegal lie to frame innocent citizens in place of the corrupt PA politicians that were bought off by Sandusky's Second Mile.

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