LI Regents diploma rate surpasses 90 ...

LI Regents diploma rate surpasses 90 percent

There are 68 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 27, 2009, titled LI Regents diploma rate surpasses 90 percent. In it, Newsday reports that:

The proportion of Long Island high school graduates earning Regents diplomas has risen above the 90 percent mark - approaching the goal of universal college-prep training first envisioned by school reformers more than a decade ago.

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oh wow

Selden, NY

#1 Jun 27, 2009
regents are supposed to be for gifted ppl - don't give it to low scorers
Teach me

Westhampton, NY

#2 Jun 27, 2009
Regents exams are a joke now. The state can tout all of the statistics it wants, the fact is the only thing that has changed is the expectations. Only in a bureaucracy like New York can one claim to raise standards by lowering expectations.
Balto

Norwalk, CT

#3 Jun 28, 2009
If you scope out today's exams and compare them to what my generation took in the mid-1960s, you will begin to understand how far down the bar has been lowered.

Everybody has to "feel good" about themselves today (your Lib educators demand that), and as a result, expectations and standards have been diving for decades.
tonymoo

Brooklyn, NY

#4 Jun 28, 2009
The current regents are a complete joke.
Administer the tests from the mid 80s with the same scoring as was done then and watch 70% of the kids fail.

Answering 36% of the questions correctly on an algebra test (while using a calculator) is NOT PASSING and whoever defined it as such is a manipulative liberal idiot.

I tried an experiment. I spent 6 hours working with my slightly above average 4th grader and then gave a sample algebra regents. She passed (just barely)- what a joke New York is.
crazy

Shirley, NY

#5 Jun 28, 2009
The standards to attain not only a NY State Regents Diploma, but a general diploma as well, are so low that it's pitiful. The headline is very unimpressive....it's misleading. I can't believe this story is attempting to create an illusion that something amazing has happened. The standards are so low for a diploma that the surprise is that it isn't 100% of our students have received a Regents Diploma.
OhWellShitHappen s

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Jun 28, 2009
It's only over 90% because the standards have been lowered so far. unfortunately, many of the kids who get Regents diplomas can't write to save their lives or do simple math without a calculator.
I Hate Stupid People

Orange, CT

#7 Jun 28, 2009
OhWellShitHappens wrote:
It's only over 90% because the standards have been lowered so far. unfortunately, many of the kids who get Regents diplomas can't write to save their lives or do simple math without a calculator.
This is why most colleges and universities haven instituted their own entrance exams. They know that most kids can't perform the three Rs, regardless of what their transcripts and test scores say.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#8 Jun 28, 2009
This article is garbage. Especially when you look at Brentwood's Regents percentage you know this article is full of crap.

http://www.longislandschools.com/districts/br...
Student Dropout Rate: 14.4%
Students Receiving Reduced/Free Lunch: 86.2%
Students With Limited English Skills: 20.8%
Graduates Receiving Regents Diplomas: 32%
Graduates Receiving Advanced Diplomas: 9%
Clarification

Fort Lee, NJ

#9 Jun 28, 2009
Objective improvement?

Or dumbed-down to meet NCLB?
THE FRITO BANDITO

Patchogue, NY

#10 Jun 28, 2009
If the state runs it you known the schools have the answers and forward them to the kids. They still can't make change of a dollar without looking at the top of a cash register and don't even know where India is. Semi-functional illiterates.
The important things is they can make babies and go on welfare. The whole educational system is as crooked as politics. Gots ta get some edgeumcations.
Mom of Three

Bayonne, NJ

#12 Jun 28, 2009
When Mills proposed this testing free-for-all in 1996 teachers knew that the "more rigorous standards" would produce nothing exept kids who know how to take a test. Everyone getting a Regents diploma...please. Not everyone needs one. Formerly, most of the local diploma kids were the ones getting solid vocational training to prepare them for jobs in the trades. That's being lost so everyone is "college ready."

My daughter had an English teacher in 11th grade that declared to her AP class, "If you score 100% on the English regents it means you are 100% average."

True enough the way the tests are going.
peachis

Oyster Bay, NY

#13 Jun 28, 2009
Don't blame this on the Liberals...the dumbing-down was a result of Bush's No Child Left Behind policy.

I'm a high school English teacher, and this Regents was the easiest I've seen, yet many students did poorly on it.

Those passing rates are totally bogus.
peachis

Oyster Bay, NY

#14 Jun 28, 2009
Mom of Three wrote:
When Mills proposed this testing free-for-all in 1996 teachers knew that the "more rigorous standards" would produce nothing exept kids who know how to take a test. Everyone getting a Regents diploma...please. Not everyone needs one. Formerly, most of the local diploma kids were the ones getting solid vocational training to prepare them for jobs in the trades. That's being lost so everyone is "college ready."
My daughter had an English teacher in 11th grade that declared to her AP class, "If you score 100% on the English regents it means you are 100% average."
True enough the way the tests are going.
That is SO true!
ObserverNY

Hawthorne, NJ

#15 Jun 28, 2009
I'd like to know what the rate of improvement in Regents Diplomas were for the "5" IB schools on Long Island and why Hildebrand felt it was necessary to point out those schools in particular.

How about the rate of Advanced Regents Diplomas? Wouldn't that be more telling for schools paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for this Swiss/UN program?

www.truthaboutib.com
mnd

United States

#16 Jun 28, 2009
The reason for the hign percentage of children passing the regents is simple:
1. it is all the teachers teach - how to pass the regents.
2. review starts June 1st.
3. calculators are used.
4. Passing score has been lowered
ABC

Bronx, NY

#17 Jun 28, 2009
Question: Is this because we forced the teachers to do their jobs or we watered the regents diploma down so the stupid basketball guy gut one also? If it was a teaching issue then allot of teachers and retiree's should go into hiding since they just got caught stealing more than Madoff did in that they stole thousands of children's future. That my friends is a crime against humanity. Maybe some people should file law suites now. They were victimized as children by Teachers and Administrators the did not fulfill their obligation to them. Well what happened or should we just move forward putting the past behind us?????

Since: Jun 07

Roslyn, NY

#18 Jun 28, 2009
mnd wrote:
The reason for the hign percentage of children passing the regents is simple:
1. it is all the teachers teach - how to pass the regents.
2. review starts June 1st.
3. calculators are used.
4. Passing score has been lowered
One error - Review starts Sept. 1st. Teachers are judged by how well their students respond like robots on a Regents, not how well their students can think, reason and interpret independently.
get out now

Highland, NY

#19 Jun 28, 2009
Well at least it is 'official'...as for years we've all thought these kids were 'dumbed' down now we have proof. Apparently not only are they dumbed down, they are rewarded for it with a regents diploma because in this politically correct world there cannot be 'stupid' kids.

Sad part is, it is the fault of NYS...and yet we are told if we throw more money at the problem...we can educate. How about we teach them how to add/subtract, balance a checkbook, how to calculate interest on credit cards/loans, how to read/understand contracts and basic math...at least we'd have COMMON sense instead of kids that need a calculator to make change of a dollar.
blah

Ridgewood, NY

#20 Jun 28, 2009
Grandmael wrote:
<quoted text>
One error - Review starts Sept. 1st. Teachers are judged by how well their students respond like robots on a Regents, not how well their students can think, reason and interpret independently.
With the education policies we have today, the standards will continue to drop until the last kid passes the test.(This means that EVERY kid will be expected to pass the exam, not just the ones who actually attend class and study.) Think about how low that standard will be when 100% of the kids (including the wide variety of miscreants, delinquents, etc.) pass. Most teachers would like to go back to the days when the child (and the parents of young children) does have some responsibility for their own education. Sometimes when a kid fails it is the kid's fault.
Manny Ruiz

Plainview, NY

#21 Jun 28, 2009
New York State Mills is keeping it a secret that the June 2009 Integrated Algebra regents exam had IMPOSSIBLE VALUES for problem #34.
The smaller trapezoid base can not be 3/4 of the larger trapezoid base if the trapezoid height is 4.
Just draw the radius of 8 and use the Pythagorean theorem.
A 2/4/8 triangle is not a right triangle.
The OFFICIAL ANSWER is wrong. There is no correct answer.
The newspapers should expose this traversty.

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