Wyandanch super's dress code memo ticks off teachers

Full story: Newsday 396
As weather began warming several weeks ago, Wyandanch school Superintendent Sherman Roberts grew increasingly upset at the sight of teachers casually clad in denim and spandex. Full Story
Elizabeth Holland

Bridgeport, CT

#158 Jun 10, 2008
I THINK THE MEMO WAS FABULOUS AND I WISH ALL DISTRICTS WOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO DO THE SAME.
TEACHERS AND PARAS ARE TO BE SETTING THE STANDARDS FOR ALL STUDENTS AT EVERY GRADE LEVEL
KUDOS TO YOU WYANDACH SCHOOL DISTRICT!
Janice

New York, NY

#159 Jun 10, 2008
Teachers dress code should be higher than the students dress code. It is important for our children to be taught the correct way to dress and teachers get paid enough that they should have to dress as if they were going into the corporate world.
Mike

Coram, NY

#160 Jun 10, 2008
an American wrote:
<quoted text>
EXCACTLY....considering how MUCH they make and HOW LITTLE they work .....they can wear approprite attire....NOT JEANS!!!!!!!
How many people with our level of education (masters degrees + 75 credits or more) work in an un-air conditioned environment? The temperature in my classroom is 89 degrees... and that is at 7am when most of the other "professionals" are just about getting out of bed.
Yeah-Right

Bronx, NY

#161 Jun 10, 2008
As a teacher, I agree that teachers should dress in an appropriate, presentable manner. Some teachers wear clothing to school that I wouldn't even wear to work in the yard.
That being said, yesterday's oppressive heat was brutal. To expect anyone to sit in a non-air conditioned, unventilated classroom that is 100+ degrees in a tie is cruel and inhumane. To add insult to injury, some students' hygeine is severely lacking, compounding the disgusting atmoshpere.
What's more, some of us who work in the "rough" school districts should not be required to wear a tie. The tie can present a safety hazard if some student gets upset and pulls on the tie in an effort to choke a teacher (don't think it doesn't happen!)
This is more than just a dramatic imagination. Police uniforms that include a tie utilize a velcro or break-away tie to prevent the person from being choked.
DWW

Medford, NY

#162 Jun 10, 2008
Spandex heat and wyandanch.... Summers here!
Blacks

Huntington Station, NY

#163 Jun 10, 2008
what is going on wrote:
<quoted text>
good for you...newsday wants an open forum on topics but when they think it's too sensitive-they shut it down or never open it...true, sometimes the post gets stupid and racially motivated nonsense-but that's why it's called a forum
Why would anyone need to bring a Gun to the Beach? The Failed Race ruins yet another nice place built by Whites.
Robert Moses

Huntington Station, NY

#164 Jun 10, 2008
what is going on wrote:
<quoted text>
good for you...newsday wants an open forum on topics but when they think it's too sensitive-they shut it down or never open it...true, sometimes the post gets stupid and racially motivated nonsense-but that's why it's called a forum

Why would anyone need to bring a Gun to the Beach? The Failed Race ruins yet another nice place built by Whites.

This is Precisely The Reason Why I Built The Bridges Low. I Didn't Think They Were Smart Enough To Figure Out How To Get Under Them!
Nick

Inwood, NY

#165 Jun 10, 2008
Yankee Fan wrote:
Funny... Teacher Dress Code is the main issue for the Superintendent at the WYANDANCH SCHOOL DISTRICT
Good point. Maybe this superintendent should devote his efforts to writing memos on other, more pressing matters, for his district.
Donna Mersher

Clifton, NJ

#166 Jun 10, 2008
Let the teachers wear what they want.
My math teacher is a hottie. When
he wears those tight jeans I calculate new possibilites. It
helps me pay attention in class.
misth4th

United States

#167 Jun 10, 2008
Ahh - I emember a timewhen a teacher was called in for wearing socks with high heeled shoes - those were the days!
Becka

Rexford, NY

#168 Jun 10, 2008
teacher wrote:
Although I wear a shirt and tie everyday to work, I surely did not today. I wore dress slacks and short sleeve golf shirt. I work at least 10 hours a day. We work hard.
What you are missing is the fact that it does not say anything in our contract about a dress code.
It should'nt have to be in a contract though. Teachers should be mature enough to know the appropriate way to dress and have pride in their appearance.

Once again teachers want different rules than the rest of the work froce though. At my job we have a dress code and ...guess what... if you violate it, you get reprimanded. Nobody violates it though. We are all adults and dress as professionals. That means no flip-flops, no shorts, and clothing that covers our bodies properly. That sid though - it sounds like what you wore is perfectly acceptable for the school.
Ira Teman

Bronx, NY

#169 Jun 10, 2008
You have to teach kids about dealing with more than passing a test. They have to learn what will happen when they get into the real world, and in the real world dress codes count. First appearances at job interviews, client meetings, business negotiations etc. Part of being a professional is to look the part, and that should definitely apply to those who are teaching. Granted, working in hot weather is difficult, but there are many options to help make oneself comfortable. Loose fitting cotton blouses and shirts, light weight cotton skirts or slacks for example will look good and provide some comfort in the heat.
THOUGHTS

Teaneck, NJ

#170 Jun 10, 2008
Blacks wrote:
Newsday wouldn't open a posting board for the story so I did it myself here. People need to comment on what these Monkeys are doing to our Society.
Great post. Newsday often engages in this form of censorship. Newsday stifles commentary like this quite frequently but there was a total blackout on commenting on Clinton stories until she called it 'quits'. Newsday will no doubt continue to be biased as usual.
bdgunner

Greenville, SC

#171 Jun 10, 2008
"We service children ... not hogs, cows and horses!" the superintendent declared. "How dare you wear jeans and plaid shirts and not an appropriate shirt and tie? How dare you wear spandex with a long top over them that look like pajamas?"

Superintendent Roberts is positively correct and hit the nail on the head. It's about time someone did something positive about the slovenly way teachers look at work,

As usual the union gets their 2 cents in which is never constructive, all they want is the dues.
THOUGHTS

Teaneck, NJ

#172 Jun 10, 2008
Establish a dress code and be done with it. This mess probably got started because of some frumpy old hag who can't score on payday.
An Annoyed Teacher

Baldwin, NY

#173 Jun 10, 2008
Bottom line is - You want respect from the students, you need to respect yourself! Why take offense to the memo if you dress professionally. I do get annoyed when "professionals" dress like they are cleaning their homes. The teachers need to convey to the students to take pride in themselves. How can a teacher be taken seriously in revealing clothes. I agree it is hot, but there are clothes that are comfortable yet professional. The only place for flip flops is on the beach. In todays society, the teacher has many roles: teacher, mother, father, role model... We are sending the wrong message when we dress inappropriately.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#174 Jun 10, 2008
thogy wrote:
teachers have a union?
My God, how do you need a union when it basically impossible to get fired?(unless you steal a million dollars from the school, have sex with a student, or rob a bank)
Ahhhh....why do you think it is practically impossible to get fired?
Mike Hock

United States

#175 Jun 10, 2008
All this talk about professionalism, and yet the tone of Superintendent Sherman Roberts memo was downright screwed up.

"How dare you this" "How dare you that"

What a farging idiot. There is a nice way to go about bringing something to the attention of your workers.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#176 Jun 10, 2008
LI needs to change wrote:
<quoted text> I am just starting to feel embarrassed being a teacher. I too worked in both the private sector and as a teacher. Why is it so difficult for teachers to respect other professions? 50K is a GREAT salary for working 180 days. That comes out to almost $35 for an 8 hour day (I'm giving you the fact that you say you work hard which means you probably put in AT LEAST those two hours each night) My friend is making $50K in the private sector working all year long. She is smart, educated, and also has student loans. We ALL have student loans. Other professions besides teachers have loans. We alwasys get a raise. This year - she got none. And her taxes went up. She has NO money to give. She may foreclose. Instead of everyone fighting how about we stop fighting and act like grown ups and solve the problem. Obviously taxes are an issue or the Gov wouldn't try to be working on a tax cap. He just visited families who are struggling. These are educated people who are struggling. Stop assuming everyone who isn't a teacher is not trying hard or for that fact wants to be a teacher. They are just saying school taxes are killing them and forcing them to leave LI. Enrollment is down across LI --- there is a very sad pattern developing of people leaving. So as teachers how about we rally together to save LI or in the next few years there will no students left to teach. And to wear decent, professional attire is really not a big deal. It shows the kids that we are the professionals we claim to be
Thank you for that!!!!! I have to say that the main response that teachers, on these boards, give to anyone who complains about the salaries, benefits and taxes is "get an education". Thanks, I have one (college and graduate). I am not opposed to teachers making a decent salary, but the benefit package really has to change. Pensions are no longer economically feasable. Life expectancies are increasing and the tax payers can NOT continue to carry this burden. What really burns me is the teachers that claim that they could do "better" than what they are getting in the private sector. This is completely untrue and if it were, many of these teachers would already be gone. Enrollment is decreasing as more and more families are moving away from the crushing tax burdens. It is time to admit that the system is broken and to make some changes.
Busey

Melville, NY

#177 Jun 10, 2008
Mike wrote:
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How many people with our level of education (masters degrees + 75 credits or more) work in an un-air conditioned environment? The temperature in my classroom is 89 degrees... and that is at 7am when most of the other "professionals" are just about getting out of bed.
LOL..... I wish I could start work 7am and get home at 230pm... all my friends are teachers and they laugh at how much of a joke it is...

so spare me your " I'm great cause I'm a teacher attitude"...

FYI... pretty much everyone who has a decent job under 30 years of age has a masters degree... so stop acting like you are so special.

A monkey can get a masters degree. It was actually easier than undergrad.

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